๐ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐ฆ
>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkkaโข
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https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speechPrevious Thread:
>>2913816'chives included
>>2916083> Daily Wire Wow, they truly are stuck in 2016. Still falling for spookery and ignoring the fact that ISIS (and all Wahhabist "terror groups") is a creation of the American Intelligence agencies.
honkoid status?
>>2916171Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd were a couple? How nice of them that they Bugs Bunny's illegitimate children. Bugs was always a scoundrel just putting his dick into anything.
Letโs say you (somehow) achieve a DOTP here in this cursed land. How do you prevent it from doing social imperialism like the USSR but drenched in big mac sauce?
>>2916178imperialism is when you stop the peripheral country from building its own agricultural equipment, growing food for itself instead of importing grain from eastern europe, and coup them if they refuse to take a high interest IMF loans with structural demands like union busting, austerity, privatization. it's a forced dependency.
social "imperialism" is when you go to the periphery and build productive forces so they can eventually be independent of you. if you give them loans at all, they're 0% interest and often forgiven. it's assisting them on the path to eventual independence.
Start getting use to I2P and Hyphanet. Using the clearweb to organize direct action is becoming a liability unless webmasters start taking lessons from pirate streaming sites on how to obfuscate administrative operations
>>2916176I'm still not able to put my foot on what makes Hegseth's version of masculinity look so fucking gay
>>2916155>ISIS is actually CIAI am tired of Americans saying dumb shit they have no clue about. Jesus, is everything a conspiracy for you guys?
>>2916171back then workers were drunk 24/7, beat their wives, and fucked the secretary. that's how they handled their anxiety. also the glassware was radioactive and everything was coated in asbestos
>>2916185and property was like 200$
fascist country
liberal country
>>2916191blast off
it's party time
and we don't live in a fascist nation
blast off
it's party time
and where
the fuck
are you
why hasnt sheeran ed cancelled his fuckass tour
>>2916204they could at least lie? to get power? republicans are always doing that
>>2916171Back in the 50s, dad could work at the factory while being able to afford a house, a car, and two kids without the wife having to worry about getting a job.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15298868.2025.2593298#d1e4617<Cultural variation in narcissism can be seen in Table 1 and Figures 1a (narcissism), 1b (rivalry), and 1c (admiration); more vibrant colors correspond to higher narcissism. For overall narcissism, the five countries with the highest narcissism scores were Germany, Iraq, China, Nepal, and South Korea; the five countries with the lowest narcissism scores were Serbia, Ireland, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Denmark. For rivalry, the five countries with the highest scores were Germany, South Korea, Nepal, Iraq, and Romania; the five countries with the lowest rivalry scores were Serbia, Mexico, Colombia, Austria, and South Africa. For admiration, the five countries with the highest admiration scores were Nigeria, Iraq, China, Nepal, and Tรผrkiye; the five countries with the lowest admiration were Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Russia, and the United Kingdom. >>2916154I don't disagree
>>2916178as someone living in a us vassal country id welcome anything that ends capitalism atp
>>2916178north and south America must merge
>>2916253Brazilians, Canadians and Burgers would murder each other en masse over banana discourse
>>2916178>social imperialism like the USSRspot the trot
>>2916217mfs used to have two families now you can't even afford to have one
>>2916257Neolibs are trying to pick up the pieces for their version of a post Trump world
>>2916178Council Communism
>>2916136so are you saying that china's aid and contribution to development is just another form of imperialism
>>2916265Iโm citing Mao but whatever
>>2916271What does that even mean in practice? I donโt want to go to meetings every week, I already work 40-52 hours
what just happened?
Roleplayer โฌ๏ธ
All talk no action โฌ๏ธโฌ๏ธ Too pussy to actually do something โฌ๏ธโฌ๏ธ
>he thinks skin contact with fent is lethal
of course the roleplayer would fall for Piggy Propaganda
Sweeter than grandmas cookies โฌ๏ธ
>>2916306
>7 firearms
all registered with the Piggies LMAO
Muzzleloaders arenโt considered firearms and neither are flamethrowers do with that knowledge what you will
roleplayer confirmed^^^
>>2916313
lmao this is why i mock balding 40 year old millennialoids. listen to yourselves
>>2916316Economic collapse is locked in no matter how nihilistic and pointless the conversations are here. And that is only a net positive for the world in the long term.
>>2916319
wtf i love houdini now
>>2916302
ding dong ditch him
>>2916323
all talk no action
>>2916328all tung no sahur
netenyahu came and went unbothered to new york. mamdani did not join the protests against him
APES
>>2916280>What does that even mean in practice?Means class dictatorship of the proletariat. Any sort of imperialism created later on is prevented by the roots. The proletariat will be encouraged to focus on class interests, not national interests.
>I donโt want to go to meetings every week, I already work 40-52 hoursYouโll go if you have to go. Youโll know when youโre obligated to go. The burden, the responsibility, and the power will be taken by the entire class, including you. Direct delegates may exist, but ultimately political involvement will be far more encompassing than now. I wouldnโt worry too much though. Politics and work may entwine more smoothly than it does now as well.
>>2916316>burgers itt unironically might have a waffle house duel at high noon overโฆ literally nothingOkay but I don't want to hear any disrespect towards Waffle House
>>2916206They don't want power they want to whine about power
>>2916373the biggest danger right now is that democrats might win and stabilize the decline of the USA. vote republican
>>2916273did you reply to the wrong post
>>2916316i missed what happened. who was threatening to kill who this time?
>>2916309I can't wait for graphene swords to get invented.
>>2916331imagine if hitler just got to march around unmolested in the USA in 1939. that's netanyahu. utterly disgraceful
>>2916427
>a platform that's practically a bazaar for lolicon filth
is it though. the only time i see this subject come up is when that one guy spams about getchan which is dead and nobody gives a shit about and and gets banned
>>2916427
LLM larp
>>2916421>this timeAmericans sound like a contentious people.
>>2916558You ever just wanna punch chudjak?
>>2916559it's called cute aggression
>>2916559I want to destroy all forms of the jaks, it has been the worst thing to ever been created on the internet to go mainstream. I hate this ugly ass art and its over use. I want it to die in a fire, and never to return. But we got stupid ass normies that love this dumb as shit fucking jaks. I hate all of them, I hate jaks, and I really hate the origin point of this shit.
>>2916570Nah, itโs more smugness than anything else. He has the aura of a really wormy dude
>>2916577Preach, they stopped being funny years ago. Theyโre nearly as stale as rage comics or Pepe, and theyโre always ugly to look at.
>>2916364lower left sign is out of diesel
Chronic stress may trigger hidden inflammation that damages the heart>Chronic stress from peopleโs everyday lives may be causing lasting structural changes to the heart, harming health and reducing life expectancy, according to new research from the MRC Laboratory of Medical Sciences (LMS) and Imperial College London.https://lms.mrc.ac.uk/chronic-stress-may-trigger-hidden-inflammation-that-damages-the-heart/<The findings come from a study of almost half a million adults in the UK, believed to be the largest of its kind.
<It finds that chronic inflammation, associated with peopleโs socioeconomic situation and lifestyles, is linked to damaging structural changes in the heart, as well as to a higher risk of heart attacks and stroke.
<The researchers explain that these changes may appear years before people experience any cardiovascular symptoms, remaining a hidden health threat.
<Professor Declan OโRegan, Head of the Computational Cardiac Imaging Group at the LMS said: โOur study, which is the largest of its kind, suggests that millions of people could be living with hidden inflammation, which is slowly changing their heart and causing long term damage โ increasing the risk of heart attack and stroke. Chronic inflammation is complicated, but we know itโs tied to our health and driven by a range of lifestyle and economic factors โ meaning people may be at more risk just because of their surroundings, their economic status, their familyโs health and their lifestyle.โ
<โBut while tackling health inequalities remains an issue, there are things that we can do about inflammation, including reducing risk factors like smoking and obesity.โ
<Hidden inflammation and heart damageChronic inflammation is a long-term low-level activation of the bodyโs immune system. It has been linked with a range of diseases, including cancer and diabetes, and is increasingly recognised as a hidden driver of heart disease.
<In the latest study, researchers analysed UK Biobank data from nearly 480,000 UK adults. They used a blood marker known as glycoprotein acetyls (GlycA), alongside heart imaging and genetic data.
<They found that people with the highest levels of inflammation (the top 20%) had a 43% higher risk of heart attack and stroke than those with the lowest levels (the bottom 20%). But in addition, those with higher levels also showed more evidence of structural changes in their hearts, including thickened heart walls, smaller heart chambers and poorer heart filling โ all changes which may develop quietly for years before progressing to heart failure.
<Links to lifestyle, mental health and inequalityHigher levels of inflammation were strongly associated with measures of socioeconomic disadvantage and psychological distress, as well as the more established risk factors including smoking and excess body fat.
<People with persistently higher levels of inflammation in the study faced a 43% greater risk of heart attack and stroke, even if they had no previously existing heart disease.
<The findings suggest that chronic inflammation may be one biological pathway through which everyday life stresses, including poverty and mental health issues can have biological effects that may increase cardiovascular risk.
<Declan added; โThe surprising thing was how much social factors and mental health are linked to inflammation and damage to the heart โ as well as more well-known risk factors like smoking and inactivity. There was also a strong genetic factor, with some people being naturally more resilient or susceptible to the inflammatory damage that comes from different lifestyles.โ
<However, the researchers stress that people who are genetically susceptible or exposed to adverse circumstances are not destined to develop heart disease, and much can be done to prevent long term inflammation.
<The study identified key inflammatory proteins from the interleukin-1 and TNF families as likely drivers of this damage. Several of these proteins are already being targeted by drugs in clinical trials, raising hopes that anti-inflammatory treatments could help prevent cardiovascular disease before symptoms appear.
<The findings suggest that combining inflammation blood tests with genetic risk scores could help identify those most likely to benefit from early intervention.
<Professor Bryan Williams, Chief Scientific and Medical Officer at the British Heart Foundation, said: โInflammation is part of the bodyโs healing process, but there is also a darker side to it. This large-scale study found people with higher levels of inflammation experienced silent changes to the structure of their hearts and had a higher risk of major cardiac events including heart attacks and strokes.โ
<โThe research provides valuable insights into how our genes and lifestyle factors, such as smoking, poor mental health and socioeconomic status, can converge to trigger inflammation. It also identifies several inflammatory proteins that appear to play a key role in the heart changes linked to chronic inflammation, and it is to be hoped that anti-inflammatory medicines could become an important tool in preventing cardiovascular disease.
<โThese findings reinforce the importance of tackling the causes of inflammation and poor cardiovascular health, while also supporting people to make lifestyle changes that can help protect their hearts.โ
<The study was funded by the Medical Research Council and British Heart Foundation.
<The work was also supported by the NIHR Imperial Biomedical Research Centre, a translational research partnership between Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust and Imperial College London.Capitalism has compatibility issues with human biology
>>2916619Stupid fascist(liberal) super weapons again
>>2916178>social imperialism like the USSRIf that is your reference point, you got nothing to worry about because "social imperialism" did not exist.
>>2916663Actually this is highly problematic because it just shows how mentally colonized by capitalism Americans still are in that they cannot sacrifice anything for the well being of their community even if it will bring in tons of benefits for the future. Replace "domestic manufacturing" with healthcare and you'd get roughly the same results.
>>2916619He is just saying this because if it has military use it can't be held up by the courts.
>>2916665Lol. Implying the people were altruistic angels before capitalism
>>2916663Did they account the proportion of American who think annually means every day?
>>2916673They were. Ever heard of primitive communism, chud?
>>2916675Top is still objectively better because the only reason anyone's happy on the bottom is because the liberals legalized cocaine to stop their voters from realizing that they continued everything the republicans did.
>>2916677>primitive communismi hate that term fr
>>2916663>encourage companiesWould it encourage them though?
>>2916683A tribe is just a commune, friend. (:
Even if better things were possible, no one would be grateful
>>2916665yeah most americans just saw tariffs go in and raise prices and it didn't help with domestic manufacture whatsoever, in fact it hurt it
>>2916687Depends on the commune
Sometimes you just have to accept that thereโs nothing to be done
>>2916584rage comics were like 4 or 5 years of cringe prominence. jaks have been getting dragged for 15 years now
>>2916629we are ruled by eighty year olds who fuck twelve year olds and eat their corpses actually
>>29167212nd pic is actually revolting
>>2916675top pic leads to bottom pic.
>>2916677> the liberals legalized cocaine ????????????? when?????????
afaik the liberals screeched about superpredators and waged a "war on drugs" that locked up nonviolent offenders for decades where they ended up as prison labor
>>2916675look at these little dumbasses born in 2008 being like "i want to fvcking die for kegbreath, israel, and pedophile warlord trump"
>>2916746
yes abrahamism bad, your meme also quotes the new testament
>>2916746
america murdered millions of venezuelans through sanctions to steal their oil. venezuela is majority christian I would add and so is cuba. stop using religion as a crutch to blame everything on or a prism to view everything through. that is liberal analysis and not marxist analysis. we are living in an age where the ruling elites aren't even trying anymore to feign piety and you are still hung up on it. in fact all modern atheism has accomplished is to give an endless stream of pro-NATO talking points to justify bombing muslims for being le uncivilized. you even see this within the left where people will condemn Iran or Hamas for being Islamic and not communist thereby implicitly justifying Western imperialist attacks because they don't support le gays or whatever else some soy drinking NYU student is mad about.
>>2916753>america murdered millions of venezuelans through sanctions to steal their oil. yeah that was wrong
> venezuela is majority christian I would add and so is cuba.in additions to being victims of america they are victims of abrahamic brainwashing
>stop using religion as a crutch to blame everything on or a prism to view everything through. is that what anon was doing.
>that is liberal analysis and not marxist analysis.it would be if that was actually what anyone was doing
> we are living in an age where the ruling elites aren't even trying anymore to feign piety piety is slave morality for the proletariat. for the ruling class, religion is just a tool for social engineering rebelliousness out of the toiling masses
>and you are still hung up on it.anon, myself, and many others will continue to criticize religion as part of the superstructure of class society.
>. in fact all modern atheism has accomplished is to give an endless stream of pro-NATO talking points to justify bombing muslims for being le uncivilized. that is because atheism in the imperial core is functionally liberal and zionist. see
>>>/siberia/817562 for a take on this i agree with.
> you even see this within the left where people will condemn Iran or Hamas for being Islamic and not communist considering the US/UK imperialists supported the ayatollah purging tudeh after the 1979 revolution, I think it is a valid criticism, as long as it is not made insincerely. see
>>>/leftypol/2913230 for more info
> implicitly justifying Western imperialist attacks not every criticism of anti-communist religious fundamentalists is necessarily or implicitly support for anti-communist liberal atheists
>because they don't support le gays or whatever else there are plenty of conservative people in the imperial core who want to bomb muslim majority populations for conservative reasons. this stereotype of "bombing the muslims for not being gay enough" I think is a product of hyper focusing on the liberal imperialists in the imperial core while ignoring the conservative imperialists in the imperial core. Do you think George W Bush wanted to bomb Afghanistan and Iraq for not being gay? That is just silly.
>some soy drinking NYU student is mad about.idk this feels like trolling and not a serious point.
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>>2916765>soyjakovichsoyjaknikov
>>2916750>>2916751Call of duty seriously raised a generation of "men" with the same psychographic of the USMC grunts in Halo right?
>Hurr hurr war is cool. Lets shoot peopleWe're so fucking toast
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๐ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐ฆ
>>2916785oh ok thats cool then go ahead spam your shit.
sex w amerikkkan women (non obese)
>>2916767to be fair only like 7% of the US population joins the military at any point in their lives, so that's 93% of people who don't, including most men. also since the draft ended after vietnam, only the most desperate, brainwashed, or opportunist people join the US military
>>2916788You're the only one spamming and trying to derail with meta commentary.
>>2916784>>2916782Abrahamism is one of the most relevant topics in relation to USA politics.
>>2916792haha thats so wacky and crazy and zany.
zohran mamdani stupidly promised to arrest benjamin netenyahu if he visited new york while refusing to sack the zionist police commissioner jessica tisch. he has furthermore sicked the nypd on peaceful antizionist protestors, bent the knee to new york zionist organizations, and condemned "left wing terrorism" as if that was an equivalent problem in NY and the USA as right wing terrorism.
>>2916792zohran for president
>>2916794no no thats why im sayin spam yo shit. go ahead quote some bible verses or some shit. fire up your llm and do that shit bruh. fuck this thread up
>>2916801fuck zohran mamdani
>>2916810>2019damn, this guy had a lot more faith in them than anyone here back then
>>2916822Everyday I get a new reason to hate that religion
>>2916822Do they at least eat the chickens?
>>2916822>factory farming billions of chickens per houri sleep
>slaughtering a few hundren chickens by hand very jewishly in front of people in a stupid spooky scapegoat ritualreal shit
honestly it's stupid and gross and i'm not a fan of it but it's really funny how people mostly just want this kind of stuff done far away from them where they can't see it and slaughterhouse workers gotta deal with it all.
>>2916828It's America, the difference is if the activists go after the factory farms they all get double digit prison sentences. Half a decade prison just for filming even.
>>2916829wow that makes Dominion more impressive
ICE shot somebody in Austin. As expected Texas DPS piggies are guarding the scene.
https://archive.is/bVGbX>>2916822he is literally torturing jews!
anyway who cares if they kill chickens
>>2916855Big reason why is that the GOP invested a lot into Spanish language media and the Democrats were retarded and did not do the same (the Bernie campaign did to great success in 2020).
>>2916857Prove to me these Xitter accounts aren't LLMs.
>>2916859worse, they are real people being told what to tweet by the admin
>>2916855Why do Mexicans in Mexico vote left but Mexicans in AmeriKKKa vote right?
>>2916864because everyone who immigrates to the USA immigrates to the USA because they are right wing and the USA is right wing.
>>2916866ok not everybody… some people are just fleeing climate change and imperialism… but still!
>>2916857>>2916858Talking points will neither feed nor entertain bored hungry bellies. The rats are unaware of the state of their ship.
>>2916767>>Hurr hurr war is cool. Lets shoot peoplethis famously was never the case before videogames
>>2916877It may be kino but you'd lose your life Texas ytboi
>>2916867>in AmeriKKKa vote rightbecause there is no real left-wing? besides, I'm sure most of them vote democrat
>fleeing climate changewe aren't at that point yet
>imperialismdebatable, specially in the case of mexico
immigration today is not the same as it was 100 years ago; migrants now have significantly less rights, so it has become a self-selecting process that favors hustlers and the truly desperate. but it is a moot point because your premise is nonsense
>>2916858>>2916857Rightoids will gladly eat ZE bugs and live in ZE pods if Trump ordered it
>>2916880A strong, yet controversial argument against migration to the US might be the fact that all the people that go there turn into gusanoids one way or another. Look at the shit Venezuelan and Cuban diaspora got away with. Maybe it's time to build the wall
>>2916887actually let the reactionaries of the world all move to america so it falls apart faster because reactionaries are all racist and nationalist and will kill each other if they are all put in the same place.
>>2916862More like Nopales vs Mexicans
>>>/leftypol/2916887again, it's a garbage argument from a fundamentally wrong premise. notice how you didn't address that most of them vote democrat, or how you pivoted from mexicans to venezuelans and cubans, the much smaller, and more politically motivated group, trying to setup a false equivalence
and even in the case of venezuelans, you're basing your judgement on the "diaspora", and more precisely, on the part of it that, first, have the support of the american media, and second, have the money to project their opinion
>>>/leftypol/2916889you're mentally retarded, that's not how things work, and it's too moronic to work as a joke: everyone knows nationalism is fake; everyone knows racism only goes one way - the whites hate the browns, the browns hate themselves
>>2916897Why TF are you quoting like that?
>>2916899no (you)s until they start using their brain
>>2916896My mistake, I guess anglo chuds can fight
>>2916897I'm not sure who you attribute my posts to but my thought about deporting Venezuelan gusanos was tongue in cheek. I obviously don't support mass deportations and the limitations on the freedom of movement modern capitalist states see fit to impose, I wouldn't be on leftypol otherwise
>>2916862The guy who got shot was actually Venezuelan. I'm not sure what background the ICE agent is but I assume either Mexican, Puerto Rican or Cuban.
>>2916901all that does is prevent people from finding your counter argument when they first read the original posts
anyone got the stalin parable of the cobbler proletarianization image
>>2916910>>2916911tl;dr jimmy lost his taco truck and got a job at the taco bell hoping he'd make enough money to reopen his taco truck. he is a prole now but still has false hope he can be PB again. his consciousness lags behind his material conditions n shit.
>>2916909>your counter argumentthis isn't a debate, no one is reading the original posts, and the lurkers already disagree with them. this is only about me calling those posters stupid
>>2916897anon has a point though. put LA petty bourgeois South Koreans and Miami gusanos in the same neighborhood and they will eat each other alive
>>2916921>this isn't a debatehe debated loudly
Iโm a leftist but lack knowledge on economics. I understand the social, political and human side of socialism but not its economic nature.
What can I read to learn about economics and its dynamics without having to learn its mathematical side? Understand it qualitatively?
>>2916934capital vol. 1-3, gothakritik, 1844 manuscripts, grundrisse
>>2916936>>2916937But what about other dynamics like the IMF and world bank? The NAFTA? First world and 3rd world economic exploitation, etc.
>>2916939read michael hudson
>>2916940>Reports that there is talk among various cartels operating in the area about getting involved and forming an anti-ICE alliance.lol Austin isn't Matamoros. I used to live minutes from there. It's a more Latin part of Austin though. There's an awesome Chinese BBQ place up the street too.
>>2916940>cartels operating in the area about getting involved and forming an anti-ICE alliance.Why would cartels want to get rid of their biggest providers of weapons and human trafficking?
>>2916934contrary to what the others say, marx can be a little dense and hard to figure out on your own. "how the world works" by cockshott is a good intro to the marxist approach
this is an awkward way to explain it, but the marxist analysis sees things first like if they were a videogame: you forget about morality, law, etc. even money, and then you make the observation that
- people need things to survive and to live
- people can produce some of those things through work
- once produced, the things are distributed within society
and these 3 facts have been in constant change through history. the technologies through which wheat is produced today for example are completely different to what they were 500 years ago; and, the laws, customs, property titles, coercion, etc. through which wheat is distributed within society have also changed
>>2916939"capital" is about capitalism in general. if you want to understand specific topics like the imf, you're going to have to get into numbers and history because you're no longer dealing with general concepts but with a concrete entity in the real world. one thing I can tell you however is that the mainstream marxist position, is that the fundamental mode of capitalist exploitation is the same in the 1st and the 3rd world. the "unequal exchange" theories are incompatible with marxist economics. furthermore, the imf and such are seen more like a detail or technicality rather than a significant change in the capitalist system
>>2916792I presume the writer is some kind of fatso with ten undiagnosed gut disorders. With a diet consisting of fat and sugars in a format optimized to gorge from a bucket, or a trough.But then again, no bidets. So one can scarcely blame the unwashed savage for being unbothered by extended stays, inhaling their own filth. It's probably what they do all day long. The smell of caked-on shit and rancid sweat is a fact of life for the terminally obese.
>>2916934keep in mind that the marxist tradition has continued since marx wrote his original works of course. additions and amendments have been made by various people to compensate for the events in phenomena in history that marx failed to account for. lenins theory of imperialism and the modern theory unequal exchange form a part of that. while it is technically true that both are incompatible with orthodox marxism and constitute "revisionism", it doesn't mean they're wrong.
>>2916967events
and phenomena*
>>2916934Capital is a tough but important as fuck book. I suggest you read Carlo Cafiero's summarized version which was approved by Marx himself while he was still alive.
>>2916984she's eating the cats
>>2916982
vato, that's not a latino accent, ese.
>>2916977
Can't they get J.D. to call up Dasha? Somebody?
>>2916982
>This must be like how it was to live through the fall of Rome.
that took hundreds of years lol
>>2916738when, and not if, trump declares diesel (then oil) bans, he will signal a total defeat in the middle east.
I've been warning about this since april. no one listened, no one replied, no one cared in /usapol/
>>2916982
I was on my way to the airport in another state, had to turn in the rental car with a full tank of gas or get fined. I was filling iup at the station closest to the airport, so the rates were higher because they obviously knew people would be there refilling their rentals out of desperation to avoid the fee. An old man, and I mean like 80 years old, Joe Biden Donald Trump levels of old, rolls up to the other pump, gets out, limps over to the pump, puts his glasses on, squints, yells "LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BULL SHIT", gets in his car, and leaves without getting any gas, LOL
>>2916984she's been around a few years now.
>>2916984wasn't her son accused of SA congress staffers?
>>2917007A FUCKING PRANK.
that only made it worse LMAO
>>2916993
NO! the handjob lady wouldn't do something like this!
>>2916997how to profit from this crisis? i want to escape burgerland with as many burgerbucks as possible
>>2916997the whole point of the iran war was to knock out the oil exports in the Gulf, now that the competition is out of the way american oil porky would never allow export bans, too much lucrative global demand, too much money to be made
>>2917016Jokes on them really. I just ride my bike now
healthcare status?
>>2917016The us doesn't have the luxury of having the strait closed, not politically. the demand is too high for them to supply it all, Asia and Europe markets; and this only creates a higher socio-economic instability that they don't expect from the US, in the US; it takes a lot of time to create the infrastructure needed to increase the production and refinement processes to adjust the prices, meanwhile the oil investors are not footing the bill under a unstable political landscape (i.e. trump could lose the midterms, the republican party could lose the next elections, etc.). neither democrats or republicans would like to carry the political burden of $200 dollars an oil barrel, $10 gas a gallon, or seeing your electrical bills rising thrice because the generation comes from natural gas turbines. Besides,
fossil fuel porkies lose when oil is expensive in the oil refined products markets. Vice versa if the oil is too cheap, they lose there, they win big through oil refined products.Gosh, every time I bring in my vas knowledge in oil and gas, it lands on blind eyes. No one reads these.
Si iran… Won???
>>2917022>>2917027To be fair to the retards if you genuinely believe what Trump says, then all this would surprise you.
>>2917032>if and when do I blow the entire nation up?"so he's blowing it up in any case? so why would they behave?
>>2917024ok but if oil porky is presented with a choice of too expensive oil or too cheap oil (capitalistic overproduction) they are choosing the former every single time. The latter is way more existential for porky
>>2917036Didn't the WSJ also make a whole-ass oped, or article, revealing internal pentagon sources stating that they know they made a huge mistake?
>>2917042>>2917036supporting the right wing death squads in nicaragua didn't get reagan arrested
blowing up the civilian airline over iran didn't get Bush Sr. arrested
bombing the chinese embassy in yugoslavia didn't get Clinton arrested
abu ghraib didn't get Bush Jr. arrested
kunduz hospital airstrike didn't result in obama getting arrested
so why would anything get trump arrested.
THE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOESTHE PURPOSE OF A SYSTEM IS WHAT IT DOES >>2916950good question. i think anon was just uncritically repeating burger regime talking points.
>>2917041That's a trivial accounting analysis, not the oil industry profitable margin theories. I recommend you to investigate a bit about
crack spreads that's what she said. Once you do, answering in Marxian terms, I can tell you that individual oil producers generally prefer a high realized crude price, but collectively they can undermine that price through overinvestment and overproduction.
>>2917054Was I implying that trump will get arrested? the other anon was being facetious thoughbeit seemed serious.
>>2917056Trump fucked with the wrong raza.
Speaking of, they're still floating the Mexican invasion.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/politics/rubio-doubles-down-on-claims-that-cartels-control-large-areas-of-mexico-hinting-at-unilateral-us-action/>โOur hope and our intent is to do it in partnership with Mexico. Thatโs the ideal. But eventually, that threat will have to be confronted, one way or the other. But our hope is to do it cooperatively with Mexican authorities,โ he said.
>Rubioโs โone way or the otherโ remark alluded to the possibility of the United States taking unilateral action against cartels in Mexico. Asked about his comments at her Thursday morning press conference, President Claudia Sheinbaum characterized them as electorally motivated given that the U.S. midterms are coming up in November. >>2917044maybe das burgervolk is not fully beyond redemption
>>2917058no i'm just butthurt
>>2917061>โTRUMP.โWhat did he mean by this?
>>2917064he means that deep state won and killed the real trump on jan 7th 2021 and replaced him with a clone
>>2917036>implying the ICC is gonna make it out of this termthe euros are probably gonna be ditch it too tbqh considering they plan to be fighting russia soon or whatever.
>>2917048>CBS austini like how news affiliates just phonefilm themselves like influencers now but still talk in the broadcaster voice
why aren't americans doing anything
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/record-us-diesel-prices-squeeze-farmers-food-prices-may-rise-2026-09-18/Will Americans riot if diesel keeps going up? The price shock is only getting started.
>WASHINGTON, Sept 18 (Reuters) - In northeast Missouri, Addie Yoder, a corn, soybean and cattle farmer, runs two combines, three semi-trucks and several tractors from mid-September to late October to harvest โand transport her crops.
>With diesel prices at record highs and just one combine requiring 300 gallons of the fuel, the best she can do is try to curb other โexpenses, she said.
>In southeast South Dakota, Drew Peterson, a soybean, corn and cattle farmer, expects to spend as much as $1,500 per day to fuel just one of his combines this season, double last year's costs, among the many machines he must use to bring in his crop.
>"You can't just say, well, diesel is expensive, I'm not going to harvest," he said. "You've just got to make it work in your budget."
>Across the U.S., farmers are confronting record-high diesel prices during the height of โharvest season, further squeezing already thin margins. Price hikes seem inevitable at America's grocery stores ahead of November's midterm elections, where cost of living is expected to be a primary voter concern.
>Global โfuel supplies have been squeezed by the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran and Ukrainian attacks on Russian refineries. The average U.S. diesel price hit a new record this week, $6.29 โ per gallon, up 68% from $3.74 a year ago, according to Energy Information Administration data. >>2917079What would ever get the to riot? Letโs play it out. Gas gets too expensive for people to drive to their jobs. Americans start sacrificing other costs to fuel their cars to get to work. The actual economy (not ai companies passing the same 100 billion around) slows to a grinding halt, even more than it already has (wasnโt it gdp grew by only 1% if you subtract ai growth?). Feds just raised rates, no job growth. Economy hits a recession. The bond market is already collapsing. Lack of diesel is going to hit personal vehicles, farmers, and truck drivers. Eventually companies will run out of their tariff overstock and just not get more. For the few things they will bother with, like groceries, diesel prices will get lumped in. Weโre gonna experience another 50% hike in food costs. Groceries, gas, and rent will be the only things people will spend their money on. Itโs going to be the pandemic recession all over again. No one will go out anymore. No one will spend money on a 20$ light domestic beer with a 20$ cover that took 20$ of gas to get to.
I donโt see us pulling out. I donโt see us winning. I see the holding position being the new norm until Trump cancels the elections in 2028 and declares martial law. This is the new normal. Just an even bigger financial burden on the working class. But theyโll all just shrug it off. Gas prices arenโt going to spark class consciousness. Maybe the effects downstream will when itโs all gone to absolute shit, but thatโs years from now. The treat infrastructure isnโt completely collapsed yet.
>>2917084Pessimism of the mind. Optimism of the will.
We still get out of bed, despite knowing better. We still do things to help alleviate the suffering of others, even if it seems pointless. The hope comes from the fact that we are all still alive and doing things despite the fact that the world sucks.
>>2917084social fascism will not solve anything
>>2916869They're staying with asmongold?
>>2917084Ive been thinking about same things lately.
>>2917079>Will Americans riot if diesel keeps going up?For Americans to riot they have to get in their car and drive 50 miles to the nearest downtown. If gas is too expensive they can't do that. The problem solves itself.
>>2917084US hegemony is predicated on imperialism at a global scale which it can no longer sustain against the developmental model of the competition. But it cannot undo decades of financialization either. The west cannot build, when building is so much less profitable than rent-seeking.
So the bet seems to me, that the west will do savage neoliberalism to upkeep profitability through the spending for the military campaign to re-subjugate the world. It is a race against time,they are enlisting the new fascism to buy them this time.
But I do not believe there is any "left" in world affairs or that socialism has any stake to power. I think there will just be a tipping point where global capital calls it quits and diversifies from US hegemony into a different kind of , still globalized , still ruthlessly enforced, capitalism. I think this is the plan that everybody is working with.
My hope is that along the way, things will go wrong in catastrophic manner. And what could be an orderly (for the ruling class) transition becomes actual barbarism for them as well. Socialists, I think, will play no part in this. I also hope that the so called socialists who have sit on their hands for nearly half a century now will be fed to the wolves, to the last, in the meanwhile.
>>2917157Damn, bro. How did the Russians or Chinese ever do a revolution?
>>2917157You canโt have a revolution without densely populated capitals full of proles, suburbanization killed all possibilities and thatโs not including the 401k, consumer credit, car dependency, mass media, I could go on all day
>>2917204They didnโt have mass media, car dependent infrastructure, 401ks, pensions, gambling, or consumer credit
>>2917204the conversations were about whether Americans would "riot" not what conditions produce revolution. 2 completely different things.
>>2917084Expecting mass action over geopolitics is probably the most deranged take on the US left. Organizing in the workplace is hard enough. Now you're asking unarmed individuals to directly confront the state directly, the one which controls the planet's deadliest military, over their actions overseas which barely affect people at home.
Of course you're gonna become a doomer if you think like this.
>>2917208a โrevolutionโ that happens without a series of riots that starts it is called a coup
>>2917204They werent filthy imperialist burgers
>>2917205"I could go on all day"
you are the anon who cycles the same 4 or 5 nihilistic talking points. usually you just list a handful of things and claim those things "make revolution impossible" without elaborating why. you just expect everyone to take your word for it. when asked to elaborate you have a few fallback catchphrases like "Marx cheated on Jenny" and "Fuck you" and "Suck my dick" before getting banned
>>2917084>>2917085>>2917202Doomers are not invited to the communal climate bunkers.
>>2917094"social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism" - guy who worked with people FAR to the right of social democrats to defeat fascists
100 years and still draggin it
>>2917212Nihilism and defeatism are not the same thing, nihilism is the belief that life has no meaning, which cannot be proven or disproven. Defeatism in socialist terms means that the proletariat has been domesticated and been stripped of its revolutionary character, which is objectively what happened through all the schemes I listed. Marx said in the manifesto that the proletariat
HAS NOTHING TO LOSE BUT ITS CHAINS, that doesnโt describe the proletariat in any first world country, it describes the lumpenproletariat who have an inherently opportunistic and reactionary mercenary nature.
>>2917214You need to actually prove the so called doomers wrong instead of crying to the mods
>>2917202> I also hope that the so called socialists who have sit on their hands for nearly half a century now will be fed to the wolves??????? in Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba, China, USSR they sat on their hands?
>>2917205>suburbanization killed all possibilitiesIt hasn't killed it. Just made it more difficult. Like Napoleon III making Paris streets wider to prevent protet chokepoints. nut it's not impossible. Suburbans still depend on cities. The city can cut them off supplies to project power
>>2917221>>2917222read william blum socialism didn't sit on its hands, it was fed to wolves. and now you look at the result of that and say "more dead proles please"
you are part of the bloodthirsty opposition to socialism if you want socialists to be fed to wolves. it doesn't matter if your declared motivation is to punish the socialists for not being revolutionary enough. the purpose of a system is what it does. fasscism feeds socialist to wolves and you say "more of that please"
>>2917218Didnโt say anything about mods sucka. Go cry in the corner or something.
>>2917220this anon has a trolling routine he does every day in as many threads as possible. he puts a million times more effort into being an annoying jackass than he will ever put into changing things.
>>2917223Thatโs revolutionary defeatism, not class defeatism. Itโs not possible for the US to be โdefeatedโ anyway because the point of those wars isnโt their stated goals but for defense contractors to make money through overpriced military equipment procurement, every war since WWII has accomplished this goal. Unless you consider mass shootings and petty terrorism to be revolutionary, which no leninist would, revolutionary defeatism in the US doesnโt make much sense.
>>2917225doesn't matter what you said. his entire game is replying to things you didn't say, shifting goalposts, making shit up as he goes along, and confusing the conversation as much as possible. he might as well be a glowie because he functions identically to one.
>>2917225You donโt need to say it, your brain is a paper in front of me
>>2917227bravo. a post with so many stupid assumptions one does not know where to begin. i will not waste my time.
>>2917232I accept your concession
>>2917226Any analysis you donโt like or makes you uncomfortable is โtrollingโ
The second most revolutionary thing an AmeriKKKan โcommunistโ aka National Socialist can do is commit suicide. The most revolutionary thing he can do is kill as many of his comrades as possible before blowing his brains out
>>2917230
no. i'm a father. what kind of stupid reactionary question is that?
>>2917233you want to feed socialists to wolves and think accusing someone of being a woman is a real argument. what is the point of talking to someone like you?
>>2917238All hail comrades fentanyl and xylazine
>>2917242Iโm not the same anon
>i bet you're a woman!
>all burgers are nazis
is the best thing you have to do with a monday morning
>>2917245sure bro. you just all show up at the same time at 9am on a Monday morning … oh, you're coworkers at langley
>>2917251Dishes and laundry are done and breakfast is cooked already
>>2917230
you both describe it and want it because you asked for more of it explicitly earlier in the conversation:
> I also hope that the so called socialists who have sit on their hands for nearly half a century now will be fed to the wolves
<??????? in Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba, China, USSR they sat on their hands?
>Yes lmao
>Yes
So you both "hope" it will happen in the future, and are glad it happened in the past.
>>2917254i'm glad your mommy does all that for you
>>2917253The feds donโt need to stop you when the American working class already rejects you and always will because they have a lot of shit to lose
>>2917255You need to suffer to become effective and not be a soft little pansy, do you know why Ansar Allah cannot be conquered? Because they had to starve and go through cholera unlike their pampered Saudi enemies.
>>2917260weird random deflection to avoid the part where you just oddly are glad socialists died in the past and hope for it to continue.
>>2917257your reply has nothing to do with the post you're replying to. it's so evident you just throw random shit at the wall and demand people reply in good faith to it.
>>2917260>You need to suffer to become effective"Break your legs, that's the only way to learn to walk"
>>2917260> do you know why Ansar Allah cannot be conquered? Because they had to starve and go through cholera unlike their pampered Saudi enemies.yeah the people who suffer the most have less to lose but what if… we simply didn't starve them and give them cholera in the first place? you look at the results of the awful system we live under and say "more of that please, because it makes tuff men" you are no different than reactoids who believe muh good times makes soft men bullshit
>>2917273
>>2917275
get a job… oh wait this is your job
>>2917276
tantrum harder
>>2917265>>2917267>>2917268>>2917270>>2917271Getting fed to the wolves is the only way you become tough enough to actually conquer power, no one with a soft comfortable life with comfort to lose is going to risk life and limb for power. Thatโs the point and youโre retarded (pejorative) if you canโt connect those dots.
>>2917277I work in an actual factory retard, my shift is at night
>>2917279>to seize power, you must die firstreligion
>>2917281yeah we're all familiar with your shitposts. you're petty bourgeois and broke an ankle and took it out on everyone else. then say "i literally work in a factory" as an appeal to your own authority
>>2917279mmm yeah, you and everyone else who trots this line out invariably believe nobody has "suffered enough" till you start advocating for the actual mass death of the entire socialist movement.
This is your periodic reminder that if you see repeated low effort bad faith "arguing" to report it and not to bother responding seriously
there's productive suffering, like pain during a workout
then there's pointless suffering, like mass death and starvation
some stupid people seem really dedicated to confusing the two. and talking to them is also a form of pointless suffering
>>2917282>>2917285Pain is weakness leaving the body and death is weakness leaving the body politic
>>2917287https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6148078>Finding:s: Almost all Soviet successor states saw mortality rates rise above the projected trendline after 1991. In many cases, this mortality crisis persisted through to 2019, resulting in an estimated 16ยท9 million excess deaths across the former USSR by that year. Per-capita excess mortality burden was highest in Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan. We estimate 8ยท4 million excess deaths between 1991-2002, exceeding previous estimates for that period. >>2917289yeah every time it comes back to screaming about how there aren't enough dead socialists, there is no success it's just constant scream for purge and death with no productive end.
the next hitler will be canadian
>>2916950>Itโs not possible for the US to be โdefeatedโ anyway because the point of those wars isnโt their stated goals but for defense contractors to make money through overpriced military equipmentNTA but the US can be defeated economically, not militarily. Which they are and the conditions for the US to collapse are all here. In fact there is really no way to stop the economic collapse that's coming in say 5 years or likely less because the oil production and trade that was lost, if started back up now (which it isn't and can't), would not stop the dedollarisation or unsustainable inflation about to hit all at once. You can see the tech oligarchs and anyone with money caught up in stocks and bonds panicking right now and you hear about them panicking more each day and setting up new homes to run to in Latin America. Iran knows this and it's allies know this and anyone that wants the defeat of the imperialist government knows this but there is no way of telling how the government or those hired to enforce it will react when the collapse and shortages are here. It depends on how far they are willing to take their loyalty to the imperialist core.
>>2917305>5 years or likely lessyou people sound no different from christfags predicting the rapture. there's no such thing as 'sudden collapse'
>>2917308I never said it would be sudden. Also the collapse is already here. It's why I said 5 years. The decline will continue until morale improves.
>>2917320Canada, Norway and the UK have some oil.
>>2917289Everyone who thinks like this at best winds up a Hegseth and at worst gets Nagasakiโd
>>2917320America's money comes from selling that oil though.
>>2917324>Canada90% of their oil is exported to the american market, if america collapses so do they
>Norwayevery cent of their oil revenue goes to a national oil fund buying almost exclusively American assets like stocks. if america collapses so do they
>UK not enough to meet domestic demand, they import the rest of their oil from America, if America collapses so do they
america can survive on its own in ways other Western nations cannot, the lesson here is how dependent the rest of the West is on the strength of the american economy for energy and revenue, you do NOT want to be in a place without oil when shit hits the fan
>>2917308>there's no such thing as 'sudden collapse'You would've been one of those confused zeks after the USSR collapsed selling your belongings on the street and wishing your wife and daughter good luck as they became prostitutes for Western businessmen.
>>2917331Indeed, is it any coincidence that Americas actions stopped their competitor Russia from exporting oil in 2022 and the Gulf from exporting oil this year? Oil porky is delighted at all these freed up export markets
>>2917335Crisis is inevitable, but the fact that Russia exists today as a major headache for the west is proof that there's no such thing as sudden collapse that puts out a superpower permanently, wishing for a world without America is retarded, it will always exist in some for another, it's our job not to pointlessly strategize its permanent collapse but to change the essence and purpose of it during crises
>>2917338America is eternal. After the yellowstone volcano explodes and covers the continent in 9 meters of toxic ash, I hope high schools distant in time and place will use the AMERICANS as their school mascot, like the Spartans and other violent peoples. And maybe some hipster kids in Nairobi will wear American flag jackets to impress girls.
>>2917343Spiderman and spongebob will outlive america as a concept lets be honest
>>2917338the soviet union was dissolved suddenly. and it balkanized. here's hoping the same happens to the USA. and most importantly that it's military force is evenly divided between it's resulting states. and that those state are aggressive towards each other.
>>2917352the soviet union was dismembered by a stronger superpower, there's no precedent for the strongest nation on earth to suddenly collapse without outside imperialist influence, this is just sad wishcasting and cope
>>2917368If blumpht hates Ukraine so much why doesn't he just give the order to stop the war?
>>2917336>stopped their competitor Russia from exporting oil in 2022Not for long.
>>2917214>Doomers are not invited to the communal climate bunkers.>>2917218>You need to actually prove the so called doomers wrong instead of crying to the modsI think it is more an issue that a communal climate bunker would need to be built for one to be invited to it.
>>2917209>Expecting mass action over geopolitics is probably the most deranged take on the US left. Organizing in the workplace is hard enough. Now you're asking unarmed individuals to directly confront the state directly, the one which controls the planet's deadliest military, over their actions overseas which barely affect people at home. How is it deranged? I think what is deranged is just acting like this perpetual state of war is just a normal fact of life and we shouldn't complain about it. In tiers of asks, it is actually the lowest possible one. It doesn't cost anything to stop spending all our money blowing up kids on the other side of the world.
>>2917383More like Super Incelligence
>>2917368lukashenka is denying this?
>Belarus has reoriented its potash exports to the East, which is why Minsk has no available volumes of fertilizers to supply to Western countries and the United States. This was stated by President of the Republic Alexander Lukashenko at a meeting with Chairman of the State Customs Committee Vladimir Orlovsky on September 21.
>"Even if we wanted to supply (potassium. โ Ed.) somewhere else, Western markets, there are simply no such volumes โ everything is contracted," the presidential press service quoted Lukashenko as saying.https://en.iz.ru/en/2170851/2026-09-21/lukashenko-says-there-no-potassium-belarus-western-countries >>2917390Is Belle Delphine still popular? I thought as soon as she did porn people stopped giving a fuck. Her whole shtick was teasing to the point of porn. Now shes just another eprostitute.
>>2917428They've been doing this for years. Surviving in bunkers is fantasy.
>>2917390>men were more muscular back then>and they smoked cigarettes>and their pinup girls didn't ahegao or hold vidya controllers>and you would leave your combat knife stabbed into the table instead of having a phonewhy don't chuds just romanticize getting dysentery in medieval times, since old = good… oh wait, they do
>>2917374>I think it is more an issue that a communal climate bunker would need to be built for one to be invited to it.When they get built, theyโre not invited
>>2917429>Surviving in bunkers is fantasy.Surviving in private bunkers is fantasy
seeing as we were on the topic of "uh actually every socialist being brutally murdered is good actually", and i was just reading over Lenin's Left Wing Communism, we should briefly review it, since it touches on the topic of losses.
Lenin actually ascribes taking unnecessary losses and "revolutionary phrasemongering" as being one of the major sources of the defeat of other revolutionary orgs. He praises self-sacrifice in the name of discipline, but not pointless, unnecessary loss.
He also, interestingly enough for most of the fucking schizos on here, actually discusses the importance of letting purged cadre members who broke with the party over Brest-Litovsk return after they recognized the error of their ways, instead of screaming about how people need to be castigated for all eternity.
>>2917444>owning drumph by no longer reporting on anything he does while he holds powerlol… damn… it's extra funny too, because they gave him billions of dollars in free coverage when he was running and had no power, because he was obnoxious and therefore good for their ratings. but now that he is le dick tater they are performatively protesting him by … not doing their alleged job of "exposing" and "criticizing" the regime. but their real job was to always put a spin on whatever the ruling class does, and this is just a continuation of that. the "normal bourgeoisie who rape the world" vs. "drumph has gone too far by banning freeze peach"
>>2917444It won't last because they'll worry people will realise nobody really needs the court press.
>>2917456And that same hesitancy saw Lenin nearly assassinated by the anarchist bandits he foolishly provided amnesty to. One of Leninโs few mistakes was his willingness to forgive for the sake of โmuh left unityโ when he should have had the turncoats hunted down and executed like the scum they are
usapol
>>2917456leftypol is allergic to lenins pragmatism
burgers be like
>lenin was a bitch
>>2917464fanny kaplan was an SR not an anarchist. if you're gonna rant and rave at least look shit up first
>leftism
>>2917471Iโm so sowwy I misgendered your precious terrorist, Iโll do better next time on emphasizing the minute aesthetic differences between the enemies of the proletariat
>>2917472revisionism is rejecting lenin
>>2917476Lenin is neither Marx or Engels
what a fucking shithole lmao
>>2917477marx and engels were no less pragmatic, the latter served in the Prussian military
>>2917474retard lol
>>2917464>muh banditosyou guys are hilarious because you will dickride literally any bureaucrat from 100 years ago who murdered all his friends in a machiavellian squid game while at the same time dickriding 3rd world military officers who couped their government because they're like based trad conservatives who hate the fags or whatever but the second you look at real workers committing revolutionary acts you call them lumpen bandit scum who must be liquidated. you just have a fetish for old conservative dudes in suits who play power games. none of the people you revere even touched a field or a factory.
>>2917484Slandering Stalin while dickriding another fascist idolized by the western left doesnโt help your case
>>2917482>marx and engels were no less pragmaticThey were significantly more pragmatic than Lenin
>>2917486i wasn't slandering just stalin. i think most bolsheviks would have murdered most bolsheviks because bolsheviks love to call bolsheviks fascists and murder bolsheviks. that's why nobody wants to be your friend. it's countdown until backstabby
>>2917484>field or a factoryamerica has neither, welcome to the Service Economy
>>2917487>They were significantly more pragmatic than LeninI disagree, they were not running a country and having to make hard decisions like lenin was
>>2917482>the latter served in the Prussian militaryi thought he just served in the 1848 revolutionary brigades under august willich, in a very short stint as an aide de camp before it all fell apart. he was actually fighting the prussian military in that instance
>>2917490>america has neither, welcome to the Service Economyretard look at a map
>>2917490>I disagreeI am not surprised
>they were not running a country They didnโt want to run a country in the first place
>having to make hard decisionsYou assume that matters or that they had it easy is hilarious. Attempt to be dismissive all you like, you are on their framework and not the other way around.
>>2917499>They didnโt want to run a country in the first place Source?
>>2917501>masked government latinos beat teen latinos on their way to join the military, on the same year that the world cup was hostedfinally, we're a real country
>>2917433The better question is, who is bringing what PC games?
>>2917504What part of stateless did you not get? They never wanted to run a state, they wanted communism. The dotp is a necessary transition state, but it is not something they held dear to them.
>>2917510So no source then, got it
>>2917501Putting a dent in the US imperial war machine. ICE actually doing something good for once.
>>2917513UYGHA, both Marx and Engels talked about how the Manifesto was outdaded couple of years after the publishing of the book.
>>2917512>>2917513He did not say the exact phrase, but he and Engels did say it. Also, the image you posted is a description of the dotp based on the paris commune.
Anyways, you have to read all this now. All of it. Every last bit.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/ch00.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch05.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
<We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.<Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance of that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association in the medieval commune(4): here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable โthird estateโ of the monarchy (as in France); afterwards, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general, the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm >>2917525ok but what I wanted was a source that says marx and engels weren't interested in running a country, instead you provided irrelevant links. the fact that they participated in revolutions themselves should be enough to prove otherwise
>>2917525I am still procrastinating on reading karl Max's books.
>>2917527>ok but what I wanted was a source that says marx and engels weren't interested in running a countryAnd you got several.
>instead you provided irrelevant linksWhat do you even say to this level of theorylet
>the fact that they participated in revolutions themselves should be enough to prove otherwiseBro, thereโs literally a letter from him expressing desire to bypass the capitalist mode of production in itโs entirety utilizing peasant commune (even though he was still doubtful it would work). Have a seat. His participation in revolutions is mandatory, not his most desired outcome. Also, really funny you tried to call him a bum earlier and are now just mentioning his revolutionary activities. Really funny.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/11/russia.htm >>2917531Donโt forget Engels
>>2917539Yes yes, the dotp (based on the paris commune) exists. It was still mandatory and not desirable for him.
>>2917509I'll bring the Command and Conquer series, Doom (the original), along with some Inherit the Earth, Tempest Rising and No Man's Sky.
And I'll be sure to bring some Linux PCs as well.
>>2917592Liberal sanity is permanently broken.
>>2917598These moderates are not that sexy. They're all pretty mid. Still would though, at least the women.
>America is not a spectator sport
>Apparently Logan and I going to Washington meeting with the Vice President, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of War, and other leaders of this country really pisses some people off
>Good.
>Because Iโd rather be in the room asking questions, learning, challenging ideas, building relationships, and figuring out how I can help than sitting behind a screen telling everyone else what they should be doing
>Twitter fingers have never built a country
>Think about how insane the American Dream really is
>Two brothers with a camera and a crazy amount of ambition can build businesses, compete on the biggest stages in the world, employ hundreds of people, invest in the future of this country and one day walk into Washington and sit across from the people helping lead it
>That should inspire people not offend them
>>2917598>>2917605communists are the true moderates because the reject both the left and right wings of capital
hardy har har >>2917524>UYGHA, both Marx and Engels talked about how the Manifesto was outdaded couple of years after the publishing of the book.- source?
- if true, this is why people laugh at you. you get mad at people for not following marx as if his words were orthodoxy 143 years after his death, even though marx and engels were abandoning their original ideas after 2 years and constantly admitting they didn't know the future and their teachings were meant to be a "method, not a dogma"
- the second reason people laugh at you is because you all make marxism sound like it is "so simple anyone can understand it" yet in practice you need to add footnotes to every statement, and accuse each other of being revisionists, opportunists, modernizers, vulgarizers, etc. nonstop
- the third reason people laugh at you and the reason nobody wants to be your friend is that you all hate each other and stab each other in the back as soon as you get power. people are literally afraid to follow you even when they agree with you. you even call options which are significantly better than what we currently have "fascism" for not being perfect.
>>2917592>>2917595>>2917598>>2917605sadly this is still how most people think. they try to ignore politics and when they are forced to pay attention to it they try to appear normal and not bloodthirsty so as not to scare the hoes. this is just the instincts of normal adults, which people on here hate because they have reduced their entire identity to obsessing over very rare moments in history they are unable to go back to or reproduce. very similar to reactionaries actually. just like the deus vult larper can't retvrn to the crusades, you can't retvrn to 1917. unionize your workplace and protest the iran warlike a grownup instead of pretending like you'll shoot everyone in 2 more weeks .
>>2917645They could not decide if they wanted him to look weak or strong
>>2917645Fucking nipple shields man.
>India's data center boom creates new engine for renewable energy
>BENGALURU – India's push to become a major hub for artificial intelligence is creating a massive opportunity for the country's renewable energy industry, as data center companies need enormous amounts of electricity and are willing to sign long-term contracts for it.
>If a 1 gigawatt data center gets up to 80% of its power from renewable sources, it would need about 6 GW of renewable generation due to the intermittent nature of renewable energy, estimates Kuldeep Jain, managing director of green energy company CleanMax. That would comprise a mix of wind, solar and battery storage for a truly round-the-clock solution supported by the grid.
<The demand is already shaping renewable developers' businesses. Of CleanMax's contracted capacity, 42% is with data center and AI companies, Jain said, adding that two years ago it was only 250 megawatts.
<Meanwhile, in February 2026, peer ReNew became the first company in India to fully commission a wind-solar-battery project capable of delivering round-the-clock power, the country's only such operational project so far, said CEO Sumant Sinha, adding that he expects data centers to become one of the biggest drivers of such ventures.whats wrong with data centers again?
https://archive.ph/6iGFs >>2917655what if we used the solar panels to power our homes, schools, hospitals, and farms instead of the mass surveillance panopticon. it's kind of funny how the bourgeoisie are greenwashing data centers because they're so unlikeable they now have to pretend they're the only good reason to introduce renewable energy. anyway fuck off thielbot.
>>2917658americans are partners in a lot of these projects
>>2917659He's going for that lean look. He doesn't want to look like too much of a meathead.
>>2917655absolutely nothing. it is marxist to be pro data center. it is historically progressive after all
>>2917669
Oh my reddit meme. Take my reddit gold, kind stranger!
>>2917669>trump definitely will burn in hell forever. alongside all of his supporters.hell isn't real
>>2917653>Iran and Yemen have all the cards right now. Amerikkka is fucked either way no matter how many clowns they're gonna drop on the stage to impress the zoomiestrvke
permachudded zoomie status?
>>2917612That Israel loving mayor is gonna let Netanyahu speak while he hangs with his buddy Trump.
Social demokkkrats truly are the moderate wing of fascism.
>>2917623>America is not a spectator sport, even though I am literally a brain damaged good who does bloodsports for a living
>Apparently Logan and I going to Washington meeting with the Vice Pedophile, the Secretary of the raping proles, the Secretary of bombing brown children, and other leaders of this country really pisses some people off
>Good.
>Because Iโd rather be in the room asking pedophiles questions, learning from war mongers, challenging them on how to better do war crimes, building relationships with prole-rapists, and figuring out how I can help than sitting behind a screen telling everyone else what they should be doing
>Twitter fingers have never built a country, I type on twitter right now
>Think about how insane the American Dream really is, you'd have to be asleep to believe it
>Two rich white guys with a bunch of entertainment industry connections can exploit hundreds of people, and then walk into washington and become politicians
>That should inspire aspiring war criminals and pedophiles like me >>2917645LMAO. Are those Captain America's shield as nipples? Even he'd be mad.
Zohran said Lula is an inspiration to him. Idk what to make of this
>>2917706he loves the center. What's not to get?
>>2917707It's kind of bleak
>>2917710>25% are neutral on Trump being assassinatedPretty sure they're for it but don't wanna say it. Hard to stay "neutral" on assassinations lmao
>>2917719it probably means, "there are pros and cons", as in, they'll like his death, but not Trump's martyrdom being used by the new Vance Administration.
>>2917734the purpose of a system is what it does. the system will not prosecute war criminals, but will continue to produce war crimes. the system will continue to put out poll saying what people want but doing nothing about it. that is the purpose of the system. to hold biden and trump accountable for war crimes is literally illegal in this country. it requires illegal action (revolution) to get war crimes prosecuted.
>>2917750Americas purpose is to constantly lose wars in the middle East?
>>2917728Real patriots eat bugs
>>2917734now, this is interesting.
>>2917728The promise and pride of convenience is dead
what just happened?
>>2917775The purpose of the war on terror was to kill civlians, overthrow governments, transfer Middle Eastern natural resources to the MIC, transfer taxpayer dollars to the MIC, and increase terrorism in the Middle East which could be used as a pretext for future war profiteering.
>>2917822america lost in afghanistan, lost in iraq and is losing in iran, stop coping
>>2917828did i argue to the contrary?
>>2917826Lasalle and Bismarck
>>2917828yes, "america" the country lost. but the parasitic bourgeoisie of america profited heavily, and the people of the countries america destroyed suffered greatly. the purpose of a system is what it does.
>>2917826TOTAL
SUCCDEM
VICTORY
>>2917710>over half of Democrats want a military coup and juntaThere is some ambitious military leader in the US military right now eyeing this and looking to see if conditions is ripe for them to pull a coup
>>2917836>the parasitic bourgeoisie of america profited heavilythe cost in blood and treasure vastly outweighed whatever profits were made
>>2917840that stock trajectory happened despite the middle eastern wars, not because of them. notice how growth only started accelerating in the late 2010's
this is random but can someone give me that pdf of Benjamin Franklin where he's accused of being the fat land owning womanizer who invented the term white people to render class solidarity impossible
>>2917843do you really need a pdf to tell you that. read his wikipedia article
>>2917851We already have NPR as state media we are just getting MAGA NPR.
Its not anything crazy like that western chauvinist liberal tweet makes it seem like.
>>2917856NPR and PBS dont get federal funding anymore, its only going to be trumptv lmao
>>2917859voted for the war btw
just doesnt want the consequences of her actions
>>2917863remember the good old days when our country's representatives and judges were not the same people who walk around holding up the round number cards at a pay-per-view boxing match
>>2917826I don't know if anyone else has realized this but Trump seems to have some kind of homoerotic obsession with Mamdani. It's very disturbing.
why did nobody tell me lenin had an interview with george seldes where he said bolshevism originated from american marxism
>>2917843here you go anon
>>2917866i gave you the actual work from 1751 the quote comes from (PDF) but also the meme you are talking about
>>2917875The whole quote is even funnier. Basically calls pennsylvania germans savage barbarians
>>2917842are you seriously in this thread arguing the military industrial complex didn't benefit from the war on terror? are you seriously in this thread arguing that the purpose of imperialism isn't what it does?
>>2917879mind blown. thanks
>>2917875YESS this is the one thank you comrade
>>2917875I sent this to someone once and they said Spain actually invented it earlier.
>>2917880Is this real? Did JD really appear on Clav?
>>2917892yeah they all bonesmashed together, it was epic
>>2917710>>2917838They will do nothing as always.
>๐น 59% of Dems support military coup against Trump
>๐น 57% of Dems want Biden officials in jail over Gaza
I owe the democrap base an apology, I wasn't really familiar with their game
USA public opinion is worth dog shit
what're you fags getting excited over. nothing will come of it. burgers talk big shit and do nothing
I want a second civil war so bad
>>2917908The first one was just between rich industrialists and rich plantation owners. But it does create revolutionary conditions.
>>2917848
why would you announce your cyberattack or psyop or whatever this is in advance? mods can just shut down the site for that whole day if they're worried you're gonna try something.
WILL THERE BE A TRUCKER STRIKE ON OCTOBER 1ST
>>2917896Uphold the National Salvation Council
>>2917851their attempt to appeal to liberal millenials is cringe.
Also, trump's decision is correct under the wrong reasons. I hope if the US has a revolution, this precedent is fully utilized to suspend all liberal media access to free money.
I've been replaying gta v
Is living in cali really pure third world sovl?
>>2917950 (me)
Also: "This [the duty of arresting netanyahu] is a duty I plan to fulfill", not even willing to participate in the protest.
>>2917950his switch up has been crazy. what a fucking snake.
>>2917950that feel when you jump the turnstile on the way to your DSA meeting so you can save $3 and afford another Meal Deal (tm) only to find yourself held for 24 hours by Zohran's police (the people's police) for the misdemeanor of saving a few bucks
>>2917967republicans aren't going to lose texas lmao
>>2917950>I have never encouraged them to protestGod he is such libcuck.
>>2918011i lived in texas for like 6 years and every election it's "this time it's really gonna happen!" and then it doesn't
>>2918014Texans are inhumans.
>>2917982Don't you all love it? You all live in a Judeo-Christian civilization where the Jew god says you deserve to die for some wild shit. But that is just the Jew god, what are you going to do? Be antisemitic against the Jewish people's imaginary friend who told them it is good to rape and murder children
>>2918029
Hell the fuck no, fuck Islam. It's like what Mormonism or Scientology is to Christianity.
>>2918033
I guess dawg. Inshallah Mashallah Ansralahhah or whatever dude.
>>2918014I was saying eh whatever early this year but every poll since June has Talarico ahead, which was never the case for Beto or any of the others, and the pollster which had Paxton up then had another one a week ago with Talarico ahead. And that pollster (Trafalgar) tends to favor Republicans by accounting for a "shy Trump voter" effect.
If I'd sketch out a theory. It'd probably go something like:
(a) Texas is an extreme version of the cheap U.S. consumption model which is unraveling because the world economy is out of balance, and the world must be in balance and will force its way there no matter what individuals or even whole countries want or feel about it, and that's causing politics to blow up all over and damage incumbents regardless of who they are. (This ended Cornyn because the die-hard MAGA crazies voted for Paxton in the runoff but he can also get marred by it because he's a Republican.)
(b) Texas sucks and has a Godforsaken climate that was uninhabitable before A/C except for Comanches and murderous psychopaths but it has been cheaper to live in than California and New York. So in relative terms, inflationary sticker shock creates a larger subjective sense that something is really wrong.
Then you combine that with other long-term trends like population growth. There's a trend of Democrats winning in sunbelt states like Arizona and Georgia but Texas has held out longer because the urban/rural mix tipped over in favor of the cities in those states earlier.
>>2918037
All right, peace and love be upon you too.
https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_4/lectures_and_discourses/christ_the_messenger.htmCHRIST, THE MESSENGER
<(Delivered at Los Angeles, California, 1900)
>The wave rises on the ocean, and there is a hollow. Again another wave rises, perhaps bigger than the former, to fall down again, similarly, again to rise โ driving onward. In the march of events, we notice the rise and fall, and we generally look towards the rise, forgetting the fall. But both are necessary, and both are great. This is the nature of the universe. Whether in the world of our thoughts, the world of our relations in society, or in our spiritual affairs, the same movement of succession, of rises and falls, is going on. Hence great predominances in the march of events, the liberal ideals, are marshalled ahead, to sink down, to digest, as it were, to ruminate over the past โ to adjust, to conserve, to gather strength once more for a rise and a bigger rise.
>The history of nations also has ever been like that. The great soul, the Messenger we are to study this afternoon, came at a period of the history of his race which we may well designate as a great fall. We catch only little glimpses here and there of the stray records that have been kept of his sayings and doings; for verily it has been well said, that the doings and sayings of that great soul would fill the world if they had all been written down. And the three years of his ministry were like one compressed, concentrated age, which it has taken nineteen hundred years to unfold, and who knows how much longer it will yet take! Little men like you and me are simply the recipients of just a little energy. A few minutes, a few hours, a few years at best, are enough to spend it all, to stretch it out, as it were, to its fullest strength, and then we are gone for ever. But mark this giant that came; centuries and ages pass, yet the energy that he left upon the world is not yet stretched, nor yet expended to its full. It goes on adding new vigour as the ages roll on.
>Now what you see in the life of Christ is the life of all the past. The life of every man is, in a manner, the life of the past. It comes to him through heredity, through surroundings, through education, through his own reincarnation โ the past of the race. In a manner, the past of the earth, the past of the whole world is there, upon every soul. What are we, in the present, but a result, an effect, in the hands of that infinite past? What are we but floating waveless in the eternal current of events, irresistibly moved forward and onward and incapable of rest? But you and I are only little things, bubbles. There are always some giant waves in the ocean of affairs, and in you and me the life of the past race has been embodied only a little; but there are giants who embody, as it were, almost the whole of the past and who stretch out their hands for the future. These are the sign-posts here and there which point to the march of humanity; these are verily gigantic, their shadows covering the earth โ they stand undying, eternal! As it has been said by the same Messenger, "No man hath seen God at any time, but through the Son." And that is true. And where shall we see God but in the Son? It is true that you and I, and the poorest of us, the meanest even, embody that God, even reflect that God. The vibration of light is everywhere, omnipresent; but we have to strike the light of the lamp before we can see the light. The Omnipresent God of the universe cannot be seen until He is reflected by these giant lamps of the earth โ The Prophets, the man-Gods, the Incarnations, the embodiments of God.
>We all know that God exists, and yet we do not see Him, we do not understand Him. Take one of these great Messengers of light, compare his character with the highest ideal of God that you ever formed, and you will find that your God falls short of the ideal, and that the character of the Prophet exceeds your conceptions. You cannot even form a higher ideal of God than what the actually embodied have practically realised and set before us as an example. Is it wrong, therefore, to worship these as God? Is it a sin to fall at the feet of these man-Gods and worship them as the only divine beings in the world? If they are really, actually, higher than all our conceptions of God, what harm is there in worshipping them? Not only is there no harm, but it is the only possible and positive way of worship. However much you may try by struggle, by abstraction, by whatsoever method you like, still so long as you are a man in the world of men, your world is human, your religion is human, and your God is human. And that must be so. Who is not practical enough to take up an actually existing thing and give up an idea which is only an abstraction, which he cannot grasp, and is difficult of approach except through a concrete medium? Therefore, these Incarnations of God have been worshipped in all ages and in all countries.
<We are now going to study a little of the life of Christ, the Incarnation of the Jews. When Christ was born, the Jews were in that state which I call a state of fall between two waves; a state of conservatism; a state where the human mind is, as it were, tired for the time being of moving forward and is taking care only of what it has already; a state when the attention is more bent upon particulars, upon details, than upon the great, general, and bigger problems of life; a state of stagnation, rather than a towing ahead; a state of suffering more than of doing. Mark you, I do not blame this state of things. We have no right to criticise it โ because had it not been for this fall, the next rise, which was embodied in Jesus of Nazareth would have been impossible. The Pharisees and Sadducees might have been insincere, they might have been doing things which they ought not to have done; they might have been even hypocrites; but whatever they were, these factors were the very cause, of which the Messenger was the effect. The Pharisees and Sadducees at one end were the very impetus which came out at the other end as the gigantic brain of Jesus of Nazareth. >>2917950Why are people here acting like the NYPD somehow became his personal army and he can just order them to do x and y. Also why are people pretending that if he did it, the state and federal government would just let it happen? I find his reaction understandable, he isn't really in a position where he can do much.
>>2918015Bourgeois democracy
>>2918116He shouldn't have lied to his constituents. He is another Obama.
>>2918116>Why are people here acting like the NYPD somehow became his personal army because they're being purposefully ignorant, the NYPD are beholden to nobody but their police unions
>>2918116Because they are dumb people who donโt understand what a mayor does
>>2918137Show me where the socdem mayor directly promised to do jihad with the NYPD red guard
>>2918014ICE wasn't going around deporting thousands of families the last 6 years, times are changing old man and so is the latino electorate
>>2917976
>I don't like crackers. I don't like your states. I don't like your people. No wan on a bus no way on a truss, I don't like crackers samiyam. You are despicable people and given the opportunity I would crush your brainstem.
the whitest hands at the CIA typed this post
>>2917982>>2918024>>2918026>hello leftypol>u are cracker>u are jew>i keel uhi brother. i am not cracker. i am not jew. you will not kill me. please go harass pol instead.
>>2917960i predicted it but there as a bunch of spammers who called me a jew zionist for predicting it. then it didn't help that the other half of posters were calling him literally hitler at the same time. the money is always on succdems governing as predictable boring liberals. they aren't going to be particularly revolutionary or reacitonary. they aren't going to do the october revolution. they aren't going to do the beer hall putsch. especially a fucking mayor, like come on.
>>2918155White leftists that behave as if racial resentment towards whites and their society is reprehensible only feel that way because they're holding on to remnants of white identity.
>>2918164i'm not a cracker, texas isn't "my state" don't come to a conversation with a bunch of assumptions and insults and threats. like that is mentally ill behavior.
hurr durr imma cut ur throat dog hurr durr
what kinda post is that. there is nothing white about finding that shit to be disruptive and cringe trolling, or the ravings of a mentally ill person
>>2918164>if you don't like it when i am prejudiced against made up categories it is because you are the made up category i am attacking right nowa never ending circlejerk of assumptions justifying themselves with more assumptions
>>2917950but leftists told me class collaboration, electoralism and entryism worked, how could this happen?
>>2918166You are deflecting
>>2918169>>2918171how am i insane. what am i deflecting from. explain it. that anon brought a bunch of death threats and racial assumptions to the thread, started ranting and raving about how everyone is a cracker jew and he is going to kill them. and then if I find that behavior cringe and indicative of cop sabotage or reactionary trolling of the web site you say it is because i am a whitey white white white boy holding on to my whitey white white white feelings? like where do you and the other anon get all this material? you just make it up as you go along. and I'm insane for noticing?
>if you notice me trolling it is because you are crazy
is this what they call "gas lighting"
>>2918172Maybe I can't relate because I'm white and his behavior has literally zero affect on me because it's all inconsequential
>>2918175nobody is white dumbass
i declare white abolished
the curse of franklin is hereby lifted
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>>2918178>>2918164All bigots regardless of skin color are cowards and parasites who deserve the gulag. Theyโre liabilities to everyone around them.
Throw them all in the same cell and let them eat each other
>>2918188umm only some fantasy races can be bigoted. it's in the fantasy racism rulebook
>>2918188Neat moralism you got there lil buddy, but have you heard of this thing called Marxism?
>>2918188when gnomes are bigoted it's systemic.
when dwarves are bigoted it's self defense against gnome supremacy.
if tomorrow dwarves got all the power and gnomes were thrown in jails and made poor and subjugated in a systemic way… well it would still be self defense against gnome supremacy, just in the form of reparations.
gnomes would need to be subjected to total disenfranchisement for 500 years to pay back for what their ancestors did. that's the rules. universalism and holding everyone to the same standards is impossible. that's like liberal or something. ending discrimination is impossible. you can only reverse the direction, you cannot stop the flow.
>>2918199TL;DR everyone must pay for crimes of their ancestors. i will accuse everyone of being jewish while appealing to this idea from the old testament
>>2918207>Out of all the things you could possibly criticize Judaism for, collective punishment is one of the most retarded. Because it can also applies to the Jews themselvesnice mental gymnastics
> Hamas is implementing collective punishment against Israel. did they though. even al aqsa flood barely hurt israel. a few hundred ravers and IDF soldiers. in response israel slaughtered at least 75,000 (probably more) Gazans.
anyway you're an insane person who believes people should be punsihed for the crimes of their ancestors. there is no reasoning with you. YOU will be held accountable for YOUR insane behavior. not your son. not your grandson. YOU.
>>2918116He doesn't to protest. It's not about the nypd.
>>2917731why the fuck eggs so expensive
>>2918266Because the manufacturers are colluding to raise prices and the government isn't doing anything about it.
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