/ufo/ - Paranormal and Conspiracies

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Probably because a lot of people on the left read Homestuck growing up or had osmotically absorbed Homestuck lore from other media, and Homestuck is very gnostic. So like even if there's no intended gnosticism, the vibes are there.

Interesting ideas, but everything is ruined by their Abrahamic base and the whitewashing of Jesus.

>>1731
>outside of the warsaw pact
Are they somehow special?

>>1732
the bourgeoisie fucking ran before the end of the war yeah ?

>>1733
I don't know how you can be a ML and at the same time sit on a board with conspiracy theories.
A bunch of people of dubious nationality, who came from an enemy country and were sponsored by who knows who, can't stand up to the "bourgeoisie".

Loosh farm isn't real, sadistic monsters who enjoy rape and murder are real. Like people pay to go to war zones to rape children and kill people. It's no different than the human sacrifices and god kings of the bronze age or the brothel factories of classical Greece. The ruling class are sick fucks sometimes. Like Billy Picton kind of shit is just your ordinary boring rich bastard shit. There's no need for bringing the demiurge into it. They're mostly ordinary people who get a rush out of abusing others and feeling powerful. Psychopaths are slightly less intelligent than average but they're really not that different from regular people. They just have all the power in the world to cultivate the worst aspects of themselves.

>>1736
>It's no different than the human sacrifices
Yeah, I'll just believe that all over the world there were sacrifices to the gods just because of sadism and it wasn't forced on us.
>sadistic monsters who enjoy rape and murder are real
Why is violence institutionalized then, and the world such a mess? 99.9% of suffering is invisible to the elite. What's the problem with simply raping children on your own island without creating a Kali Yuga everywhere?

>>1085>>1075 I'll briefly cover 4 types of worship in anxiety Greece: Olympian, Rustic, Chthonic, and Orphic.
And we do have knowledge how the Greeks of the middle period worshipped, not only from art and statuary but also from preserved written hymns like the famed hymn of Demeter, likely performed by her priestesses!(Link below)
For most people, religion was a public and political affair, not the praying-to-God before-bed-type of religion. The closest we have to prevalent worship was worship to Hestia, goddess of the hearth, protector of the family who reverb praise before meals at home or staying the day.
The actual gods would change from city to city but usually would at least include Zeus , Poseidon, and one of the Olympian goddesses. Sometimes a titan or mereid like Thetis. This is the Olympian cult. Sacrifice might be deity-specific, like Olive Oil for Athena, but when in doubt all gods are pleased with the burnt entrails of a white ox or other large animal!
Outside of major urban areas the Olympic cult was less prevalent. In the countryside, Rustic gods like Pan were worshipped. I don't know much about /how/ they were worshipped, but we have a good idea of whichever deities and why.
Chthonic, or "underworld" gods, were also whales to a leader extent. This includes Hades, Persephone, Hecate and was associated with magic. Sacrifices were animals buried alive.
The last type and only kind with any excited of being outlawed that I'm aware of is the Orphic cult, a proto-gnostic group that believed that c death could be conquered. Mostly worshipped Demeter, Dionysus.
There are also "mystery cults" that we only know of from mentions but have no surviving details.


https://www.theoi.com/Text/HomericHymns1.html#2

>>1085
>>1086
Do we have any evidence showcasing that the commoners believed in it? Did only the kings believe in it like Buddhism?

westerner viewing eastern religion through a western lens? color me shocked. but seriously, these are not centralized religions, not even in a rough way like the several christian denominations, they're much more scattered.

>>1611
Monasteries are kind of centralized dude

Judaism, and it's heretical offshoot Christianity.

The amount of child sacrifice symbolism in the Torah and Bible is enough for me. Besides, YHWH was created partly from Mlk, the god to whom the phoenicians sacrificed babies.

>>1684
YHWH is literally Indra/Zeus with a Semitic theme.

>>685
>what religion explains this?
Judaims and American evangelical protestantism. Both are fundamentally elitist, predatory and imbued with "fuck you, got mine" attitude.

if you read the old testament with its original context in mind, that is to say, a collection of parables and historical accounts and social commentaries from the perspective of a largely nomadic/semi-nomadic iron age society composed of shepherds and farmers living simple frugal lives, you may notice that much of its content is a running critique of the much larger and wealthier and more powerful neighboring pagan empires who ruled the world in those days. these societies are continually criticized for their idolatry and their greed and their brutality and their authoritarianism and their deification of human oligarchs and their extreme levels of carnal excess and material extravagance, these were societies where 99% of the population were peasants and slaves kept in a state of perpetual starvation and illiteracy and ignorance and utter helplessness, while the 1% were living in great gilded palaces having drunken depraved orgies with child catamites and incestuously breeding their own children with one another to preserve their noble bloodlines and abandoning their large numbers of deformed/disabled infants to be eaten by wild animals or burning them to death as human sacrifices for the greater good of the race.

does any of this seem familiar to you? a religion is merely a reflection of the society that invented it, a formalization of the customs and traditions and values (or lackthereof) that they already exhibit in their daily lives, so naturally the religion of an empire will reflect all the cruelties and excesses of the empire. religion is the smoke, society is the fire. it is not religion that you should be pointing the finger at, it is the empire. and the empire has existed for as long as organized permanent human settlements have existed, since the dawn of the neolithic era when humans discovered how to tame animals and grow crops and humans were confronted with the intoxicatingly alluring notion that the earth could be something that belongs to them rather than the other way around. it was inevitable that this would happen, it's just simple cause and effect and it could never have turned out differently, the empire was always there lying dormant in our brains and it was just waiting for us to figure out how to make it into a reality. there are no demons, there are no witches, there are no gods or devils using us as instruments for their grand ambitions, there are no convenient outside excuses we can point to which will absolve us of our aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1619
I think you're overthinking crackheads. I do think it's sometimes useful to study the religious beliefs of the capitalists but they're often very inconsistent and self-serving.

Go on then simp!

Uy uy. Uy, uy!

>>1545
Humans are inherently shit, and capitalism makes them worse, does that mean we shouldn't improve ourselves and things? No. That is a false black and white dialectic.

>>1548
>Humans are inherently shit, and capitalism makes them worse, does that mean we shouldn't improve ourselves and things? No. That is a false black and white dialectic.
I think that capitalism just reveals an aspect of what they're like, like any other system or multiplayer game. I agree we should improve things.

I agree. War of sexes/genders is the most successful psyop of all times.

>>1720
>questiouyghs
this is the silliest filter trigger so far. questiouyghs -> questiouyghs? or questiouyghs -> questiouyghs

>>1721
holy lol. questiouyghs and questiouyghs both trigger it

>>1722
eggs iggs

>>1719
>The key is to stop wanting things.
This is certainly possible, yet i would argue the detached Buddhist ultimately becomes just another form of psychic cattle. For better or worse our wants and needs are what define us as persons. Therefore i see the key to vanquishing suffering not only in letting go of what is unattainable to the ultimate end of renouncing one's personhood, but also seizing that which is and expanding one's capacity to do so.

Buddhism is a slave ideology in the same way protestants did the whole 'this life is purgatory and to get to heaven you need to work every single day for the master'

Like just stop wanting stuff bro, dont look over here at my palace full of riches and your mud hut and chains, its gods plan.

Bullshit of the highest degree.