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parece que até a sinistra abadonou o jones

acabou-se

>>17396
estado falho que presisa ser bancado toda vez que alaga.
tipico de familha de vagabundo que acha que liberdade é agir igual macaco e completamente submisso pra judeu askeNAZI e gringo

Mesmo que você concorda 100% com as ideias, posicionamento, estratégia e tática política do Jones, hoje ter ele na sua organização/partido é claramente uma bomba-relógio. O cara já demonstrou que não liga de causar rachas na org dele ou alheia, e trata as decisões do coletivo como uma mera sugestão.

Alguns vão dizer que pelo menos ele trás gente pro movimento, mas até aqui o que ele trouxe foram fãs que tratam disputas como barraco de BBB, que repetem jargões que aprenderam com ele pra responder críticas, e trivializam os problemas reais da esquerda como um todo, porque pra eles isso é só uma forma de entretenimento. É Casos de Família pra quem trocou a TV aberta por YouTube e Twitch.

A inserção da esquerda nas redes sociais não retardou o alcance da extrema-direita, não aumentou o alcance de movimentos e ideias revolucionárias, e não articulou uma alternativa á esquerda do PT. Eu tenho certeza que alguns aqui podem citar uma ou outra anedota, mas isso é insignificante; o bolsonarismo alcançou e conquistou aproximadamente metade da população votante nas últimas duas eleições. Juntando toda a esquerda dita radical, não deve chegar a 1%.

>Claro né, Bolsonaro tem recursos, big techs, dinheiro, etc., do lado

Exatamente meu ponto; o que fez o alcance dele efetivo foi a classe dominante decidir que ia rolar. Não foi orgânico, não foi falta de regulamentação, não foram chans: foi a mesma galera de sempre, com meios novos. E tentar jogar o mesmo jogo não produziu militantes dedicados, apenas pessoas que tratam política como fandom.

Já estamos indo pro terceiro ciclo eleitoral federal com essa ideia de "disputar as redes" (contando apartir da eleição de 2018, que foi quando a maioria dessa galera começou a engatar.) Tá na hora de aceitar o limite do que se conquista com "presença de esquerda nas redes".

Essas horas me dá saudades de ter Twitter.

Uma coisa que faltou eu falar: pra um cara que usava nick se "Machiaveli", o Jones é péssimo em disputa política, e eu creio que isso é fruto de arrogância, achando que quem constrói argumentos melhores ou fala mais bonito ganha. Complexo de Cícero danado.

Dvgin sobre venecos

>It's over

Bueno, el siguiente congreso peruano sera de derecha. It's over…

>leyendo sobre guerras americanas del 1900s
que ASCO los liberales ANTI-CASTIDAD de ese momento, los peores nazis de la historia luchando contra VALORES CASTOS

>>17257
Respeta el liberalisGOD godo de mierda

>>17112
for the 1000th time. this guy is not actually Dugin. he's a brazilian pretending to be Dugin on the internet. No one knows why he does it but he got doxed by ukrainians, it's all on telegram.

>>17365
This is perfect

God you're annoying. And you are an AMERICAN where at least you know you're free. And you wont forget the men who died and gave that right for thee.

>>17369
You gotta be trolling, America is not a free country, we have lobbying, mass surveillance and no healthcare!

>>17371

Kind of, I grew up in America in the late 90s-2000s. I had to listen to that song at least once a week throughout the bush administration. What's life like in America as of 2026? Im curious and going through a 2000s nostalgia binge nitter.net/mythoamerica

>>17372
Oh what country do you live in now?
Also Amerikkka sucks rn, 3 people own half the wealth and ICE is kidnapping people, but there is a spark of hope with the rise of the DSA

Id rather focus on building nuclear power plants. Energy independence is far more crucial in the long term.

>>16927
Argentina did that, the economy not thriving threw it into the hands of amerikkkan capital.
Under the efigy of Rome no power can even think of existing

Nukes didn't stop the Americans from couping the USSR. North Korea is still there because it is irrelevant

>>17288
It takes nukes and determination, Gorbachev was a cuck who was willing to sell out his country and his people for some cardboard pizza but the Kim dynasty was strong and would not concede, relevance does play a part in it but the point still stands and if I am wrong then why not prove it and try to get a nuke in Latin America?

>Serious countries consolidate and uphold global norms; Brazil led the way in preventing an arms race in the Southern Cone, negotiating the Guadalajara Agreement with Argentina and consolidating a norm of South America remaining a zone free of nuclear weapons.6

Seriously the biggest L I've ever read about my country. Fuck Brazil.

>>17030
no entiendo que tiene de chad lo que dije (soy al que le has respondido)

¿Que sería lo raro? Solo recordar que Carlos Marx trataba a Bolivar de un inútil e ignorante que desestabilizó toda la región y la dejo más débil ante el demonio anglo

Lo único que veo en lo que no se ponen de acuerdo es si la izquierda hispanista debe ser Monárquica o Republicana

>>16844
>>16847
lo siento pero el marxismo es descendiente directo de ideas de la ilustracion y liberalismo, el marxismo es occidental

>>16803
>>17219
el mayor hispanista que conoces es un peruindio twitteando desde lo alto de su cerro con 3G que es la unica zona que le llega conexión en 200km a la redonda

>>17070
>Carlos Marx trataba a Bolivar de un inútil e ignorante que desestabilizó toda la región y la dejo más débil ante el demonio anglo
bolivar fue un mal necesario, marx tenia razon, pero es simplemente proceso historico y los hispanistas son tan autistas como los indigenistas no le saben a la dialectica

Will Maduro ever be set free?

>>16901
what the fuck is that vid.
More seriously, unless he somehow avoids a guilty verdict (already a tough ask), not very likely. Noriega had potentially more dirt on the US, and it didn't help him avoid life in prison.

>>16908
>what the fuck is that vid.
Idk
>More seriously, unless he somehow avoids a guilty verdict (already a tough ask), not very likely. Noriega had potentially more dirt on the US, and it didn't help him avoid life in prison.
yeah Maduro is gonna be stuck in jail forever, I don't even think the Venezuelan people want him back, they don't like America of course but Maduro had ran his course.

Is Delcy a heroine? I've seen this article with the following commentary on Twitter:

Mad respect for Delcy Rodríguez. She's not only guiding VZ through US seizure of its oil, but is also enduring, on one hand, "sickening visits from smirking Trump henchmen" and on the other, critiques from Western leftists who call her a "sellout." Meanwhile, she's preventing a bloodbath of her people (a certainty if US were to invade) and holding the line for the communes to boost agricultural production, adding food self-sufficiency to the Bolivarian project of sovereignty. She's even pushing Chavismo forward w/ less ego and more collective care.

From the text itself:

Rodríguez is therefore reduced to negotiating with the occupiers over how much of Venezuela’s own money she is allowed to spend on her own people. She is obliged to host a series of sickening visits from smirking Trump henchmen, openly humiliating and raping Venezuela. The claims that Rodríguez wants this, still more that she engineered this, are nuts.
I have seen criticism from the political left in the West, that Venezuela should have fought, should still fight, should join the anti-Imperial resistance. I have seen Venezuelans criticised as “sell-outs”.
Rather few of those making these criticisms have personally taken to the mountains with an AK47 to fight a superpower which has openly abandoned all pretence to follow the laws of war on protection of civilian life and infrastructure. It is certainly an option; but the death toll would be appalling and Venezuela would be condemned to many years of civil war and US military occupation.

h t t p s ://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2026/03/the-weight-on-delcy-rodriguez

(posting without quote arrows because of weird bug with board software)

>>17220
O melhor jogo de esquerda é contribuir para o desenvolvimento das forças produtivas.

>>17220
Metal Gear Solid

>>17198
>fetiche de desflorestação
Ricardo Salles?

Novo fio 🧶
>>17216
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>>16883
for the same reason white americans used to say "all chinese people look the same" when referring to, like, vietnamese people

Nada mas deprimente que estar titulado y solo te ofrezcan trabajos de 12 horas al dia por 2000 pesos semanales.

>>17144
Jaja pues de que estado eres o que

>>17163
tamaulipas lol

cuando leo este hilo es como estar viendo el chavo del 8

You got to go big or home with your depravity. Don't pussy out of it or else every one will be on our ass about it. Do it and tell people what are you going to do about it?

>>16373
Why do you think the retarded ticos are pushing for US military bases in their country. After Cuba, Nicaragua is next

>>16373
sadly theyre just not very relevant

This new Cuban embargo is just a populist policy. There is no strategic value whatsoever in the post cold-war era, Trump is trying to topple the government to appeal to boomers and the 2.5 million Cuban diaspora in the US. The island is iconic as fuck, it almost was the cause of WW3, and it is the greatest example of a communist country in the Americas.
Now take Nicaragua, the most important thing it has been involved with was some political scandal that led to nothing, their diaspora population is rather small and politically irrelevant, and you don't even know what the fuck happens in Nicaragua. If you ask the average american about Nicaragua, they would just bunch it up with other "mexican countries" and would start rambling about illegal immigration and drug trafficking, even if they know fuck all about the place.

>>16373 Trump haven't attacked nicaragua because he has to first pass thorugh HIM

They tried, but fucked it up pretty badly.

no olvides que el 1er partido xijimista del mundo es peruano jajaja

>>16427
¿Y es que acaso no conoces Sendero, chamaquito cagón? Infórmate porque el maoísmo tuvo algo de importancia en América Latina. Te menciono unos cuantos MOIR (Colombia), PCR (Argentina) y hasta el PRM (México).

define izquierda asiática. Porque fuera de su contexto tampoco existe en niguna parte del mundo fuera de asia. Los paises de latam simplemente tienen a la burguesia nacional mas cipaya de la historia de la humanidad por varias razones y es inviable ese pacto desarrollista quiero decir hasta los chavistas tienen cuentas en suiza y propiedades en usa. china pasó una refundación como nacion y vietnam una guerra a vida o muerte asi que tampoco es justo comparar
>>16500
creo que se refiere al modelo socialista de mercado actual