Lmao op fucked up the thread number, everyone point at him and laugh
>>2625966this is like the third time today the thread number has been fucked up. where is version 8?
>>2625982lmaooo
NEVER TRUST A BITCH
Nicholas was a simp, tough luck pimp
>>2625987That only happens when you have draftees in the ranks, the soldiers they'd send to Venezuela are all chuds who signed up to kill foreigners.
>>2625989I actually hope this happens. Just for pure hilarity that will ensue. I already see groypers moving there en masse to rebuild Agartha
I see that "le fragging boots on the ground" is the current cope. Hey, whatever works.
>>2625991This. US imperialism truly perfected itself by abolishing the draft
Have you guys ever watched Machado speak? She looks like an actual demon, it scared me
>>2625998IRL judge from blood meridian but female
>>2625998yeah she had the crazy eyes when she mentioned $1 trillion dollars going upstream
>>2625994>agartha>hollow earth theoryyou mean hyperborea?
>>2626001
8===D
>>2626004Cannot unsee lol
>>2626002Yes sorry, the edits all blend together but Agatha/hyperborea/atlantis/thule whatever the latest one is
>>2626011Also the majority of them weren' even reported on so its more like 70-80% got out completely fine
This is thread 10.
Why have thread 7 and 8 been deleted?
>>2626014>>2626011yeah people forget most aren't even clearly fragging incidents vs accidents or combat deaths.
>>2625991I mean not for nothing but a whole lot of volunteers are there because of economic pressure or just being deluded about what the military is like and quickly come to resent it, so it's not as irrelevant as you say.
>>2626015because older threads get deleted when they move far enough down the index for the board, and those threads are recent
If you're arguing for auto-deleting sequential threads that's not a bad idea because the generals tend to clog up the board and push down more unique threads, but it's something you should bring up on /meta/
>Marco Rubio said he's reserving judgment on Venezuela VP Delcy Rodríguez's denial, saying the U.S. will judge the interim authorities by their actions in the coming days and weeks and urging them to seize a "historic opportunity" to serve the country.
just lol
>>2626022Bullshit, 3,4,5,6 are still up.
What if he just doesnt get convicted with anything because the US violated international law. Like I know the systems are highly rigged and corrupt but even liberals are pushing back on this
>>2626030yeah yeah whatever grampa
>>2626001
Anyone who promoted Mersheimer and used his realist arguments about countries being effectively entitled to spheres of influence are saps or hypocrites. If you believe Russia is allowed to protect its sphere from western incursion by invading Ukraine, then it follows the US is justified in forcing LatAm countries in it's own immediate sphere under its thumb when they're to buddy buddy with China.
I'm not saying this perspective is correct and Russia or US should be doing any of this, but I wish people would apply principles consistently.
If multi-ploarism is actually happening then a neo-monroe-doctrine, like the younger right-wing has openly stated they want and like we're seeing exercised right now, is an inevitable consequence. The recession of the global American empire unavoidably involves tightening the reigns nearby.
>>2626001>>2626035>b-but russia!western ""'leftists""" should be boiled alive
>>2626035>recession of the empirePure cope. Name an American imperialist project that failed. They seized Afghan heroin, they raped Gaddafi with a bayonet on camera, overthrew Assad and that’s just in the last 20 years
>>2625989People rip into people who don’t have a relationship or have sex and assume they’re a Chud, yet this woman married the biggest Chud of them all.
>>2625982Chances of Rodriguez or whoever is left in the PSUV being more based than Maduro? He was always too cucked by evangelism and cacique mentality for my liking.
>>2626037Way to completely miss the point of my post.
>>2626041The slow recession back to the western hemisphere is obviously deliberate on the America's end. They aren't being forced to do this.
>>2626046uygha which one of those ops took place in the western hemisphere
Finally they took down this idiot, Venezuela was in free fall after Chavez
>>2626048
>I'm not a leftist
then you should get boiled alive first
>>2626044If Trump seemingly is gonna let them stay, they must have made some sort of deal
>>2626041Ansarallah managed to scare them out of the Red Sea for a time and now the Saudi and UAE guys are busy fighting eachother
>>2625982yeah, and she also became a traitor who published under the NYT. don't recycle blabbering people.
>>2626055That would likely be the greatest betrayal of a country's working class to so far take place in the 21st century. So you're probably right.
>>2626047This slow foreign policy shift is a recent development.
>>2626048Then why are you here?
>>2626055100% and anyone who doesn't understand this is a idiot. The VP and military sold him out, and will likely be fine as long as they don't push back too hard against this beyond probably planned performative displays. For now we've avoided the worst case scenario of the Venezuelan opposition taking power.
>>2626057That’s all local tribal disputes the CIA doesn’t give a fuck
anyone have any interesting articles to read on what the us wants in venezuela
>>2626043leftypol will never admit this but hetero women tend to prefer chuds as long as they're not too unsightly which sadly is the case for most of /pol/acks
>>2626058why is she a traitor
>>2625982Venezuela 2 - 0 Machudo
>>2626065Most likely either denying China oil, or at least making sure the US gets the profits if China is allowed access to the oil.
>>2626065You don't really need an article to understand. Trump has more or less been transparent; in fact probably the MOST transparent a US president has been about an imperialist operation since the 1800s.
Venezuela has an extraordinarily large oil sector with vast untapped oil reserves. This oil sector is nationalized. The US wants to privatize it and hand control to US-based oil firms. There are other motivations of course, but they are entirely secondary to this one.
>>2626065Chinese infrastructure.
>>2625989>if they can't protect their resources, it's our resources thenwill euroids do something or have they already 'negotiated' with trump the takeover?
Let me hear your speculation:
What was in the agreement that the Venezuelan government sans-Maduro made with Trump in order to stay in power? Are they gonna let US molest the oil?
>>2626078Exclusivity rights to Chevron and Exxon over any Chinese or Russian creditor
>>2626065kick china out of the greater USA (previously known as latin america)
>>2626043"women won't have sex with you if you don't have the right political opinions" has always been turbo cope
how many years you think trump has left on this earth
>>2626078The least worst scenario is they give US privileged access to oil purchases and/or allow to American companies to merely rent access to state owned oil fields.
>>2626082This my gf is racist and I still love the taste of her pussy we are all pink inside
>>2626083Couple more, rumors has that his showing signs of dementia
>Read an article from my city's newspaper about Venezuelan immigrants reacting to Maduro getting kidnapped
>Usual vague "oh my country is at last liberated"
>Next paragraphs are crying about food processors, banks and other businesses getting persecuted by the Venezuelan government
What a great example of the pb consciousness being dominant and peddled in my city.
>>2626083It’s shocking an 80 year old man that is powered by McDonald’s and aspirin has so much energy to talk shit 24/7 to reporters. He will probably shoot for a 3rd term and try to die in office.
>>2626060In all honesty Maduro's government were already corrupt sellouts who further liberalized Venezuela after Chavez. If Rodriguez and co pulled this deal to avoid turning Caracas into Fallujah or Gaza then it's legit the best case scenario for Venezuelans like this anon
>>2626061 said.
>>2626073Which makes this whole operation, even if it succeeds, shockingly shortsighted when you consider renewable energy is going exponential. The hundreds of billions the US oil companies would invest to exploit that are begging to become stranded assets by 2040 if not earlier.
>>2626088middle upper class' experiences don't matter
>>2626067Miller is an unsightly bald goblin
>>2626094The entire world right now is ran by like 20 billionaires panic hoarding all the world's resources amongst each other before climate change kills us all.
>>2626088Diasporoid opinions don't count. Actual Venezuelans are more polarized when it comes to Maduro.
local Venezuela media published the names of the Presidential Security forces killed. 15 names in total.
they died fighting.
>>2626097Nice cope but the American century of humiliation is still on schedule
>>2626088most of the Venezuelan expats are a bunch of horny warmongers that couldn't differentiate between whatever lies are babbled from the imperial warmongers that butcher kids in Gaza and the truth.
they are at best radlibs, they are at worst straight fascists. also. some of their 'key figures' are criminals wanted under the Venezuelan courts, like the poleo family.
you know what there'll be a fuck ton of protests over? the greenland annexation. because even though the population of greenland is mostly brown inuit people, dumbass USAnians think it's blonde people and so they'll be outraged
>>2626109>>2626117Why would anyone care if the VP and party continuity prevails? The same guy you voted for in your district doesn’t change.
>>2626115Why do I want her to punch me in the face?
>>2626123
These are the “leftists” Stalin killed
>>2626129Does Greenland have an army or is it purely ceremonial buckingham palace types
>>2626100But he's rich and successful which is more important. Lookmaxxers on suicide watch.
>>2626137Based petty boug prole
>>2626133denmark has some dog sled patrol teams lol
>>2626128Stalin wasn't a leftist either. He was an ubermensch pretending to speak to "the people" so he could keep them under control and have them serve his project. The Soviet Union was actually existing Nietzscheanism, not socialism.
>However, the administration’s outreach to U.S. oil company executives remains “at its best in the infancy stage,” said one industry executive familiar with the discussions, who was granted anonymity to describe conversations with the president’s team.
<“In preparation for regime change, there had been engagement. But it’s been sporadic and relatively flatly received by the industry,” this person said. “It feels very much a shoot-ready-aim exercise.”Lmao oil companies are hesitating
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/03/trump-venezuela-oil-us-companies-return-00709782 >>2626152They'll come around. Does anyone seriously think oil ghouls are gonna politely decline this opportunity?
>>2626156MAGA communist blames the wokes instead of the guy bombing Venezuela
>>2626137is this doable as an unamerican prole?
even some pitiful penny trading is probably huge in my shitworld country since a single dollar goes far but I just have no idea what this person is talking about
can regular americans do this or is it just a hack for first world pmcs >>2626129>>2626119there'll be no protests in the US if the cheetos man decides to fuck over denmark. no matter if denmark reminds to trump that they spied sarkozy, merkel and other other EU politicians while in charge, on behalf of the US.
it's all cheesy now.
>>2626160Aren't oil futures doing horrible
Lula status?
>>2626160Average Americans struggle with rent, can't cover emergencies and need credit card debt or payday loans to function. Most can't afford to invest in anything substantial. PMC and above only.
Dat bitch mamdani better stand on 10 toes and free my niqqa Maduro
Time to put your money with your mouth is and stand up to Trump we run New York babyyy
As things become clear, this was a back room deal. It’s the same deal Maduro offered, his VP assumes presidency. The military stands down for some show of bravado. Something to note. I understand American primacists chest thumping about it, but what I find odd are people accusing others who recognize the clear backchannel negotiated arrest as “cope.” It’s not cope, it’s what happened. The US wants to look strong without any cost or risk.
>>2626164it some 27 y/o failson's job out there to post that shit
>>2626168why do leftlibs talk like this dude is some kind of neo-lenin
he's not even a leftist, he just wants the ZO(city)G to stop pillaging his city for at least one single term lol
>>2626173>that dude taking a selfie with his gfLmao
>>2626174I was quoting stavros future standup routine
>>2626164Soy Occupied Government
>>2626176Queen slay
I hope she runs again against Newsom
>>2626094not that anon but exactly. This is the spain situation when it found gold and silver in the americas
>>2626176So, basically
>I would have done the same thing but with extra steps involved >>2626173>>2626175Erm, I noticed you were trying to protest, but you're being hecking cringe virtue signal woke college student blue hair SJW 🤣. You should go home and post on obscure imageboards like me 😎
Nothingburger bros, I think we actually won
As a psyop the Venezuela operation was a resounding success.
All the chuds are back to loving war again, just in time for Iran.
>>2626186sitting down he mogs those fat pigs
>>2626186are the deal schizos right? he looks way too happy…
>>2626190he's that way. literally he is, see:
>>2626170 >>2626191what is he even wearing
>>2626188The doomers are back too. Love it.
So when is Lula launching that nuclear program?
I can't tell what video is real anymore or pic cause has gone too far
>>2626156Based retard Maupin. They look genuinely shook for a minute there.
>>2626196The problem with brazil getting nukes is then argentina and chile have to get nukes
>>2626184The frog dude is protesting about the fact that Trump doesn't have the "authority" to bomb Venezuela which suggests he would be okay with it if the congress people voooted for mass murder, it is a clever reference about how american protestors are often fascist clowns.
You think Maduro and Luigi are going to become friends?
👉👈
>>2626203no he'll be friends with diddy
>>2626188how is the chud ecosystem reacting? i didn't want to go see what /pol/ was doing
What's the accelerationist position on this?
>>2626191All this seems fishy as fuck
>>2626202i think your reading into it too much
>>2626186>fat cops next to him Lol
>>2626207theyre probably doing whippits. this whole op was a morale boosting exercise, to make trump and trumpnicks think the US can do muscular shows of power, get everything and then fuck off without any blowback
>>2626191Okay, so that's something. But Venezuela has a new president now, and the same party, right?
>>2626190You don’t get it.
Maduro is fervently Catholic and is being given the opportunity to walk in the foot steps of Christ.
okay trump doesn't have enough troops to occupy ALL of venezuela but does he have enough to occupy oil producing regions?
this is the perfect time to invade taiwan you know
>>2626220I think the general gist is that they expect the remaining parts of the maduro government to cut a deal or whatever, in return they do not get bombed again in a few weeks/months.
>>2626222Spheres of influence sisters… we're winning
>>2626219Critical support to the democrats in their holy war for bringing critical race theory to Venezuela
so is this now the neo warring states and victoria era period
>>2626219>THEY DIDN’T WANT THIS!Why does he think this excuses them? If anything, it proves trusting him they’re too dumb to be trusted with an ant farm let alone politics.
>>2626186one last aurafarming photo
>>2626228Americans are psyopped 24/7 since birth don't expect them not to fall for it every single time.
>>2626219I hope Maupin's fat Mexican wife murders him in his sleep
>>2626231At some point we have the drop the pretense that they are children being duped. It's more like they are "groomed" by state department to engage in their base violent instincts.
maduro lowkey autistic dont ask me how
>>2626219tbf a lot of democrats don't like whats happening so far.
>>2626237GEG!!!! Democrat "opposition" everyone.
>>2626218well he literally is going through martyrdom as we speak
>>2626235>happy new yearlmao
>>2626237they bragged about it too, at least they're happy being branded as literal state actors and valid military targets
>>2626237oligarchs in control
>>2626059this shit is so unserious it's funny
>>2626239See their tweets, even Harris doesn't support what's happening.
>>2626246oh they are tweeting? thats crazy!
>>2626239Kamala, Bernie and AOC followed the CCP strategy by tweeting their opposition to this op.
>>2626247Lmao stay mad I guess. We will see if they do do something in the Senate or House.
guys the CPUSA strategy of "begging the democrats to do something" didn't work what are we going to do now?
>>2626248It's like seeing a lion being harassed by a pack of hyenas. Sickening.
so what is the mid to long term strategy for the usa that wouldnt blow up in their face
>>2626246they're going to push another war powers resolution vote and lose miserably again by a handful of absentee votes
>>2626252>Senate or House.The current administration doesn't care about that democratic soy shit.
>>2626238They don't care they're just going through the motions squealing impotently about procedure.
>>2626235He is a real tio. If you listen to his drives and his podcast, pretty funny and chill guy
>>2626257>>2626258>>2626259Yea I know but at least no one can say they didn't oppose it.
>>2626262we will be able to say exactly that when they take over the house and do nothing to stop it
>>2626262Yes retard they're literally saying they opposed it just so no one can say they didn't oppose it. They don't oppose it in any substantial way.
>>2626246Obama and the democrats always preferred working diplomatically with opening up Cuba and Venezuela.
>>2626263>>2626266Okay, sure. Genuinely curious, what could they do for you to change your mind?
>>2626262I can say they didn't oppose it, if they know the current administration doesn't care about the law trying to stop them by doing legislation is a joke. You fags act like the democratic party isn't in the top three more powerful parties in the world.
>>2626268the moment is past, they should honestly kill themselves for enabling this very moment.
>>2626268>what could they do for you to change your mind?A coup.
how do you cope knowing Venezuelans celebrate their liberation?
>>2626219Tucker Carlson is a has-been who hangs out with gay nazis, and MTG is a deranged wingnut who looks like a rabit. Platforming either of them is a great way to make everyone who isn't addicted to Twitter hate you.
>Anti War MajorityThe majority is a statistical abstraction that doesn't actually exist. Insofar as it does, it consists of people who are apathetic to anything that happens outside of the US's boarders.
>>2626270Okay, this just seems like you want them to be like this way rather than acknowledge reality.
>>2626271Fair enough. General Milley please save us.
>>2626273What liberation?
>>2626275>Okay, this just seems like you want them to be like this way rather than acknowledge reality.the reality is that they furthered this during the obama and biden term, and especially during biden term which emboldened the MIC by allowing a genocide to happen, in a fair world they would also be locked up
>>2626275>rather than acknowledge reality.thats you if you think the democrats aren't ok with most of what trump is doing including venezuela
>>2626255please do not associate hyenas with americans. hyenas have a bad enough reputation
>>2626275>What liberation?from Maduro, duh. haven't you heard?
>>2626214Weird how the most repulsive people in those threads arent even american. The australians, canadians, and british are worse.
>>2626286I know some people here attack the whole rule based and idea side but he not wrong. Trump here has done something far more mask off than previous us imperialist actions were. And frankly, its gonna be a interesting time forward because of that
>>2626286China taking control of their own territory(taiwan) is not the same as USA claiming the entirety of the americas for itself.
>>2626289retard here, I don't get it.
What changes exactly?
>>2626289the transition started with iraq and finished with venezuela. it's a whole new ball game now
>>2626237esl here
to which papers should the plans have been leaked?
>>2626277>>2626278I think the anti-war faction is gaining voice for what it is worth. Obama/Biden-esque politics is over.
>>2626284Taking out a leader doesn't automatically mean liberation, anymore than Trump dying means America is liberated.
>>2626292the usa starts going full mask off which leads to a more violent mass off imperialist period. Think about the difference between the fascist era and victorian era. You will get a neo 1930s-40s
>>2626296>mass offmask off
>>2626298Taiwan is literally a rogue province you stupid retard. Leave.
>>2626298True. Thank God the valiant US army is containing the yellow menace.
>>2626299>>2626299>Instead they're calling for de-escalation and organizing electionsWho is? I have seen de-escalation so far but no new election.
>>2626300>>2626302Lmao you two deserve each other.
commies are immaterial non-material ideologues and will keep loosing
>>2626219Where's Tulsi!?!?!?!
>>2626238Just got back from the dog park and woman there I sort of know (an ex-Air Force intelligence officer) was railing about it. Quoting Naomi Klein. Turns out she had been stationed in Honduras during the coup that took out Zelaya. Told me a story about it.
>>2626289Eh, I think this seems novel if your baseline assumption of how the U.S. operates is Obama-era liberalism rather than Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr. and Dubya, et al. Or Teddy Roosevelt. A lot of presidents.
>>2626298Le eastern hordes spreading across the world
>>2626310Im talking about the post 1945 order
>Ronald Reagan, George Bush They at least excused themselves with freedom and democracy and dictatorship. And tried to keep this mirage.
Meanwhile trump is just blatantly honest about what hes doing. Oil, OIL, OIL
>>2626225Venezuela dropped the ball here, or more likely they cut a deal with Trump. Several fat ass chinook helicopters flying low altitude over the capital city and not a single one shot down by MANPADs or auto cannons? And don’t say that they were all destroyed by US air strikes, there’s no way they could blow up all the MANPADs and autocannons and heavy machine guns if the army had the basic sense to have them patrolling around outside the bases. It seems to me like either Maduro cut a deal for himself or was sold out, either way they let the US operation happen perfectly so Trump could get a big media win as part of the deal. If Maduro ends up with a light sentence after all of Trump’s bluster we’ll know Maduro himself cucked out.
>>2626310the world watched Gaddafi get skewered on video, Obama wasn't any better
>>2626321Not to mention how they had their only SAMs like that Buk just sitting out in the open, not hidden underground or at least moving. They should have copied Iran and dug tunnels but they did nothing other than distribute AKs to militias
>>2626296the US was already retardedly violent outside its borders so very little changes imo
maybe you think this will initiate a more openly violent period inside the US? I mean, maybe? from what as I know as a thirdie is that you guys already had marauding packs of violent thugs marauding your streets and killing proles for fun, in both gangster and cop varieties
>>2626207They seem to be pretty split down the middle 2bh
>>2626290>China taking control of their own territoryIf it's their territory, why aren't they governing it.
Go use that rhetoric to libs who believe in nonsense like legality and property rights.
>>2626289It obviously leads to further decoupling from and mistrust of America.
>>2626340You are ignorant of Chinese history and as a consequence end up repeating imperialist propaganda.
You should be boiled alive.
>>2626340The people there are Chinese, its Chinese territory, just under the Republic of China instead of the People’s Republic. Attempts at separatism and fabricating a new “Taiwanese identity” make no sense because the main DPP supporters and advocates of separatism are the Hokkien Chinese, aka the colonists of Taiwan, while the actual indigenous Taiwanese and the only people with a claim to a separate identity are the strongest supporters of the anti-separatist KMT.
>>2626349Who gives a shit what right wingers are doing on their websites?
>>2626349r/drama is a ragebait site that does both culturally left wing and right wing stuff to make people mad, don’t engage with it, everything there is just political ragebait and they probably don’t believe any of it themselves
>>2626352It doesn't matter if they share the same culture or speak the same language. The PRC as of the big 2026 doesn't have neither de facto nor de jure control over the Taiwanese island.
>>2626248he lookin tuff fr og
>>2626344I'm familiar with Chinese history. Chinese history has no authority over who controls what. The PRC 'ownership' of Taiwan is as mythical as the ROC's 'ownership' of Beijing.
Material reality does not care about your childish fantasy. If I take the food out of your pantry and shoot you in the leg, it's no longer your food, and to pretend that it is would be infantile denialism.
>>2626356And? North Vietnam didn’t have control of South Vietnam, until it did. Reunification is inevitable, especially with the current difference in military industrial capacity between China and the “rules based global order”.
>>2626365>Reunification is inevitableMaybe but it's definitely going to be far more complicated and messy than what Chinaboos believe
>>2626360No shit it doesn’t physically own Taiwan, if it did there’d be no point of conflict. But it has a claim and casus belli, which is very much part of material reality. Because if the PRC conquers Taiwan, it’s merely the conclusion to the civil war and nobody can dispute it as imperialism.
>>2626214https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/525000968It's funny seeing them talk about China. The attitude is either
>Hey ching chong, suck my shlong! You're not going to do shit!or
>The US deserves to be nuked by China for allowing itself taken over by Jews!They're both extraordinarily /pol/ attitudes to take, despite being diametrically opposed to eachother.
>>2626355My impression of r/drama is that it's a place for insecure teens to go and call people gay so they can feel better about themselves. Kind of like the community surrounding Encyclopedia Dramatica back in the day.
>>2626369Every war is complicated and messy. So what? Already the situation in 2026 is such that China has the advantage in quantity of materiel - wait 10 more years and the pro-American bloc in the pacific will be like wild dogs squaring off against a lion.
>>2626365I can't believe I have to explain this to a human being, but predictions of the future are not the present state of things.
If we were living in 1960 and someone said "Ho Chi Minh City is Democratic Republic of Vietnam's territory", it would be comical.
>>2626373What is the material conditions that form a /pol/ chudcel other then being a virgin
>>2626373r/drama isn’t like kiwifarms, I’ve seen a lot of posts on there that are pro-trans and stuff and attract angry right wingers, they’re a “I change my ideology depending on who I’m baiting today” kind of thing.
>>2626375So what if it would be comical? It would be right.
>>2626376Its white "gifted burnouts" that couldnt have made it anyways in life, but think they would have a shot at owning capital if it werent for […]
>>2626336That's been the case everytime Trump pulled the rug out from under them and exposed himself as a ziopuppet neocon psyop. He has a cult of personality so many of them will side with Trump even if he directly spits their claimed values.
>>2626378Yeah also the admins have started to enact TCD
>>2626374Quantity is only an advantage in a long war. China doesn't want a long war vs Taiwan. Ideally it would replicate what the US just pulled off.
>>2626376high autism score and big dick
>>2626375Also the situation for Vietnam was significantly worse than the current situation for the PRC, the side which has the advantage has been reversed. Even warhawk analysts in America say the situation is dire, wargames have simulated that American missile stocks will run out in a week in a war against China, and they wouldnt be able to build those back up in any reasonable timeframe. They produce 90 tomahawks a year, less than 1 ship a year, they’re barely maintaining their current arsenal while China’s equipment counts are ballooning.
>>2626390How is a Taiwan war going to be anything but a long war? Even if they seized Taiwan immediately, they’d probably have to contend with Japan, the phillipines and the US Navy who can’t allow Taiwan to be lost until TSMC production has been moved to America, because otherwise China gains near 100% monopoly on semiconductor production and can either win by default by cutting off trade with the West or extract any price they want for computer chips.
>Venezuelan government continues to operate
>appoints new temp president who’s arguably more radical than Maduro
>Maduro is still officially recognised and considered President by said government
>No US occupation
>No regime change
>Just a plump Venezuelan man whose government goes on without him while the rest of the Lat Am Left mobilises and galvanises to resist imperialism.
<all according to Keiaku
What did Trump mean by this?
>>2626214>/pol/acks mad at jews and want to rape peoplewhats new
>>2626376Having empathy, friends and an actual set of guiding principles founded on love for your friends, yourself and a belief that your life isn’t fucked because of minorities and women, but capitalism.
>>2626216This, somebody in Venezuela cut a deal(probably for no actual invasion, not sure) and the PR boost is what Trump gets out of it. He desperately needs this after the Epstein files fiasco where he was revealed to have been involved in impregnating a 13 year old.
>>2626397Oh wait my bad, misread that. Just the absolute opposite I posted.
I don’t think it’s material conditions that make the /pol/yp. Personality, I’d argue, pre dates one’s politics
So Trump has said that the US will "run" Venezuela. What exactly does that entail? By the looks of it the rest of the Venezuelan government is still intact, Delcy Rodriguez is set to assume the office of the presidency, and the military seems loyal for now. If the snatch and grab operation is all the US is gonna do then nothing will actually change in any meaningful capacity.
>>2626403Their universal condition is irl social isolation, though that produces a lot of types of online people other than /pol/ chuds
>>2626406bro was just saying shit
>>2626406Remember to take Trump with a grain of salt. He frequently says things he doesn’t follow through on, he might just be saying that because he’s high off his little victory. Though I personally hope Comrade Nationbuilder doesn’t cuck out and follows through this time.
>>2626406I’m starting to think this whole debacle was just to distract people from the Epstein files
>>2626406It could just be Trump's retarded way of saying that Venezuela will be part of the US's geopolitical sphere. He's so poorly spoken when it comes to serious subjects there's any number of ways to interpret the statement, not all of which involve occupation or even an opposition puppet government.
>>2626043didn't she cucked him with Elon?
>>2626370>No shit it doesn’t physically own TaiwanNo shit, to you and me, but Sherlock over their doesn't seem capable of computing it.
>But it has a claim and casus belli, which is very much part of material reality.I also claim it. So what. My casus belli is that states are illegitimate. How is this any less
real than the PRC's claim?
You can just reapply that logic and say the US can claim Venezuela as part of its backyard and double down on the bullshit drug trafficking justification. It literally doesn't matter if claims and causes are bullshit. They usually are. They can literally just 200% lie and say "we're justified because Karl Marx wrote in the Quran that South America and North America belong to the Trump Family". The only difference is that it's harder to maintain political support with a less convincing casus belli. See: WMDs in Iraq. We all know it's bullshit, doesn't matter. Legitimacy isn't material. Claims and casus belli are just for political support.
>Because if the PRC conquers Taiwan, it’s merely the conclusion to the civil war and nobody can dispute it as imperialism.It's still spooks. There's no actual need to continue the long-frozen civil war. The ROC's remaining claims are ridiculous. The civil war framing is an excuse to start (or allegedly "resume") conflict. If the ROC changed government, retracted their mainland territory claims, formally withdrew from the civil war and just declared independence, would the PRC still want to invade?
I'm not claiming it's imperialism. I'm not saying it's a bad excuse;
it might even be sincerely held by some of the upper CPC. But ultimately it's a pretense to escalate hostilities, eliminate a hostile state and gain strategic territory. Which makes sense; the ROC is a hostile state relevant to US←->PRC struggle. It makes tactical self-preserving sense to invade the ROC, I'm not against it. But let's not pretend that recommencing the civil war is some righteous holy necessity in itself. It's hostile, foreign territory.
>>2626380Try again. At least have fun.
>>2626406The Trump admin won't follow up on trying to run vuvuzela.
>>2626406>So Trump has said that the US will "run" Venezuela.The US doesn't even run the US.
>>2626123
This your selfie?
>>2626395>>/pol/acks mad at jews []Honestly, do they even believe that shit?
There are fascists (including a former Stormfront mod) who openly admit they spread agitation that they knew was nonsense, like Great Replacement. Ideologically, based on common values among fascists, there's no value in telling the truth. It's liberalist idealism.
So I do occasionally wonder how many of these neo-nazis actually believe in a Jewish Conspiracy and how many are just using it as an excuse to agitate for suppressing other races.
>>2626370>nobody can dispute it as imperialism.Who cares? Only thing that matters is winning and China should invade anyone they need to.
>>2626378Again, that's what Encyclopedia Dramatica was like, at least early on, back when people actually cared about it. They were all about what they called "lulz". Lulz were kind of like modern day cringe, but with a much stronger element of schadenfreude. The Encyclopedia Dramatica wiki existed primarily to document lulz, but it was also intended to generate them. There's multiple pages on the site that exist solely to make the reader upset.
>>2626432yeah whatever. soon the USA will arrive with bombs and jets and guns and appoint whoever the fuck they want
>>2626447how would that demoralize venezuelans? they're right there
>>2626449We Americans aren't very smart
BREAKING
China and Russian foreign ministries have expressed "deep concern" about US actions and have scheduled a meeting at the UN. They intend to fly over to UN HQ in… the US.
>>2626427it was a nothingburger all along
Trump saved Maduro.
Maduro wasnt kidnapped. He was evacuated.
>>2626427<Rodriguez quietly cuts a deal with the gringos. Gives them a cut of their oil in exchange for lifting sanctions and withdrawal of US naval assets. All the while remaining friendly with Russia, Cuba and China.This is exactly what Maduro was offering. Trump doesn't want it, he wants total submission. It's likely that after Maduro Venezuela realizes that there's no negotiating with international terrorists and will double down on weapon shipments.
>>2626490Wait, then what was the point of this?
>>2626492Well, Iran is doubling down on weapon shipments right now, after Iranian president tried to appease Israelis. Honestly, by this point I have no faith in national bourgeoisie of any country to actually try and defend their own interests, lol. What kind of a joke their class is if they need somebody other than themselves to help them stand on their own two feet? The most retarded red-masquerading nationalists in Africa or elsewhere were much more patriotic than these shits
>>2626496The point was evacuation of maduro. Maduro was protected by thousands of cuban special forces and russian pmcs. No way they took him by force. He was evacuated. He made a deal with trump.
>>2626500Le lesson of le paris commune is that le national bourgeoisie will make a deal with le enemy to crush le proletariat, or something
>>2626501So, what Maduro sold out his country and this was a rescue? What level of schizo is this?
>>2626506Maduro was unpopular. He was about to get saddam treatment but usa saved him. He is now probably in some safe secret location signing some papers.
>>2626503The lesson of the Paris Commune is that urban bourgeois militias cannot overcome a capitalist nation state's army, at least with 18th century weaponry
>>2626510>hostileWhat did venezuela do? How is maduro non asset?
>>2626463>it was a nothingburger all alongNothingburger expectation was "decap, token retaliation at empty barracks, fizzle." Unfortunately, that wasn't cynical enough. This was a turbo nothinburger: "voluntary surrender, no retaliation, fizzle."
>>2626513This is just a merging of capital or big capital swalloing small capital
>>2626513yup. and what's funny about that is how it makes the protesters in NY look. they're marching around saying NO WAR IN VENEZUELA. and its like yeah don't worry bro there won't be.
>>2626381>Leftoids only now discover elite overproductionIts kinda true that a lot of the guys behind pol or even most of them are mediocre clerk at best but we really have to ask ourselves why there are so many clerks to begin with. And its because declining profit rate in industrial jobs means that both labour and capital are now flowing to either the service sector or the bureaucracy, or to put in plainly every fucking suburbanite and middle class diaspora immigrant kids are now trying to be some sort of a programmer or mid level manager. Which obviously results in a lot of stemfags and MBAs who are jobless and is now trying to find a scapegoat. Hence why there are wokeness and chudness, and both of these movements can be summarized as "if not because of X i would've gotten my comfy clerk job", ignoring the material conditions we have today
So it's not really helpful to shame the people behind these popular ressentiments as mediocre or such. I kind of sympathize with left wing minorities panning whites complaining about immigrants/wokeness taking their jobs since the US is the den of racial capitalism and if you're not white you will be reminded of this every day of your life, so seeing whites getting the shitty end of the deal does provide some sort of schadenfreude. But regardless it is kind of hypocritical to me to be a libleft calling out whites complaining about not being handed over a job just because of their skin colour, and then on the next page unabashedly say we need more black CEOs
>looks around
>oO(heh heh, there are still holdouts who haven't accepted the "Nothing Ever Happens to the Hegemon" rule. all that speculation about tough Chinese economic sanctions and naval-escort bluff-calling gone to waste…)
grim
https://thehardtimes.net/breaking/ice-accidentally-sends-maduro-back-to-venezuela/ Breaking
ICE Accidentally Sends Maduro Back to Venezuela
By Dan Rice
January 3, 2026
WASHINGTON — In a stunning instance of miscommunication between departments, ICE agents have deported Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro back to Venezuela just hours after he was abducted by the DEA.
“ICE is simply doing its job and keeping America safe from world leaders,” said a defensive Kristi Noem. “I don’t know how the liberal media is trying to spin this, but Maduro is a bad hombre. He is a dangerous man, has known ties to drug cartels, and has absolutely no legal right to be captured in the United States. Adios, buster!”
The move has been met with strong criticism from the rest of Trump’s cabinet, most vocally from RFK Jr., who reportedly had high hopes that Maduro could “Hook it up with some Molly.”
This is a breaking story, and we’ll have more as it develops.
>>2626515The thing is that this isn't over. The US left the chavistas in charge and only kidnapped Maduro and Flores. However, Rubio hints that Cuba is next and that there will be demands from President Rodriguez government which she will have the same stance as Maduro. If they do not cut a deal, Trump will attempt to occupy Venezuela. So war still has a potential to happen
>>2626526>The thing is that this isn't over. I expect the Syrian plot line, tbh. Wouldn't be surprised if Putin is shaking hands with the new prez and American oil tycoons in a couple of months
>>2626526The worst scenario is that comprador elements in Venezuela can just use the kidnapping as an excuse to dismantle the national oil industry and thus state welfare, by saying that they are "forced by American military" to do that thus shifting popular anger away to the US. This is essentially what Pakistan did during the War on Terror
>>2626527USA cannot replace neither Russia nor China as trading partners for USA's own vassal states. Whoever USA puts in charge of any country, economic interests will pull them back to the usual flow of history, like it happened to Millei in Argentina, or to Bolsonaro in Brazil, or to Modi in India.
USA cannot fight against history. USA is a capitalist country, and they know only the normal flow of history, unlike communists who create history with their own hands
>>2626531>Communist make history with their own hands>The US will lose because thats DESTINYThe China bootlickers here are closer to fucking Nickkk Land than Marx although i guess i can't complain since i disagree with KM's historical materialism
>>2626532Your consent is not required, dipshit.
>>2626533Tankanon this world is not a Marvel movie where the good guys will always win. That's not what materialism is
>>2626531Hard (military) power and soft (economic) power obviously don't capture the complete picture. There's undeniably something
psychologically lacking in today's non-US leaders that wasn't lacking during the Soviet era. You can have nuclear domination like today's Russia, but as we've seen, it doesn't deter the US – it'll still bomb your homeland and target your leader. You can have economic domination like China, but as we've seen, it doesn't deter the US – it'll still ship arms to its anti-you proxy and ignore your limp protests. Great Man Theory vindicated.
>>2626534The alternative is we all die.
>>2626536Yet, undubitably, USA loses it's grip and gets weaker with each passing year. They can't even replace their navy anymore, for example.
How long will it take to start shipping oil to American refineries? US and Israel will start bombing Iran the next day
anons remember to rank your namefags please
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWOoPYnAthe results are interesting so far
>>2626538Doesn't matter if nobody has the
will to capitalize on their vulnerabilities. Some fantasists of the "never interrupt your enemy when he's making le mistake" ilk think the US's downfall will just take care of itself. I saw the same cope in the years before the Soviet Union collapsed.
>>2626543China is capitalizing, though?
>no la guerrraa loca
>>2626544It relieved the rare-earths pressure for the most mediocre of concessions, and its response to being upset about arms deliveries to Taiwan is to launch more limp drills. China doesn't actually want to knife the US.
>>2626539I misread that as Italy for a second there
The US literally flew in and kidnapped one of China's strategic partners hours after Chinese officials were there talking about bilateral-cooperation ventures lmao. It needed only one phone call to sever the ties between Panama and China.
>b-b-but China can't be expected to get its way in the US's Monroe field of influence
Seems it's not getting its way with the little island of Taiwan, either. Hence the constant complaints and Final Warnings about what the US is doing there.
>>2626549China does get its way in Taiwan though. When Xi got into the spat with the Japanese PM over Taiwan Trump is conspicuously silent
>>2626549It took 100$ billion dollars to secure Millei, and he still went back to trading with China. It's just not feasible for USA to keep status quo, lol
>>2626550RIP to us bozos.
>>2626552America allows countries in its spheres to trade with China, both as unofficial conduits for hidden US China trade and to use as leverage to influence China. Open defiance against the US however crossed the red line. It is similar to the pre-WW1 world; the Ottomans for example were firmly in the Anglo-French sphere of influence but they were still allowed to trade with the Germans
>>2626421>How is this any less real than the PRC's claim?Because you can't rally hundreds of millions of people behind that claim.
>You can just reapply that logic and say the US can claim Venezuela as part of its backyardVenezuela has never been part of America, the claim only comes from it being in the same hemisphere which is plainly ridiculous to everyone, if China ran on that logic it would claim dominion over all of Asia. But the US state can peddle ridiculous claims because Americans don't really care about these far away wars that never reach American soil, most don't really care to stop the war if 2 million Iraqis die and only 4000 Americans died over 20 years. But they cared when bullshit wars actually affected a lot of Americans, like Vietnam where the popular support was in the gutter with millions drafted and tens of thousands of Americans dead. So you need a good casus belli for a major war, like Taiwan which will cause major trade disruptions and economic problems, or you end up fighting a second war against dissidents at home.
>The only difference is that it's harder to maintain political support with a less convincing casus belli.>Legitimacy isn't material. Claims and casus belli are just for political support.Yes, this is why casus belli matters. Because political support is very material and you can't fight a war without political support.
> There's no actual need to continue the long-frozen civil war. You might as well say that about North and South Korea. It's going to continue because having a heavily armed island mere hundreds of kilometers from the coast strongly aligned with America isn't a good situation.
>But let's not pretend that recommencing the civil war is some righteous holy necessity in itself.It is a necessity. If there is to be any US-PRC struggle, there will have to be a takeover of Taiwan. Taking Taiwan is the first step in breaking out of the US's maritime containment strategy. Whether it is righteous depends on which side you take.
>It's hostile, foreign territory.Depending on the approach that's taken to reunifying with Taiwan, it may end up not being hostile. China has a lot of tools for pressuring them into willingly acceding. One of them being the historical claim as part of the same nation, which gets some Taiwanese to support reunification.
>>2626551It's currently complaining about US weapons being sent there and "warning"/"urging" the US to stop lmao. The Soviets didn't bother with this pleading nonsense. When they were unhappy about weapons sent to Turkey, they just sent weapons to Cuba.
>>2626427This will happen
>>2626431Well, Taiwan residents who might otherwise strongly oppose reunification as an invasion from another nation. After Taiwan is taken, it needs to be secured as well.
Xi & Cucktin would never conceive of sending significant weapons to US adversaries as retaliation. That's too "provocative" and "OMG WW3." Hence the complaints about arms to Taiwan and Ukraine will continue.
>>2626560The Soviets can afford to care less because it is in the nature of Slavic civilization to pursue open confrontation. We can see this in Ukraine as well, and the stark difference between how Putin's Russia acted compared to Chinese leaders from Deng onwards, who himself only invaded Vietnam to weaken the PLA
>>2625993They will just put you in prison.
>>2626490I disagree, I think Maduro's capture was part of the deal since Trump doesn't want to cuck out again after calling him a druglord who needs to be stopped. And also needs another distraction from the Epstein files. How else do a bunch of Chinooks fly over Caracas without a single MANPAD being fired?
>>2626577i agree with the first part. but they did not need any distraction from the epstein files. no one gives a shit about the epstein files
>>2626536More like the US is currently ruled by low autism score monkeys that sperg out about armageddon and transsexuals in movies every two seconds.
The US before the 90s understood tit for tat, if the post-9/11 US government managed the Cuba crisis then Soviet nukes would still be in Cuba, if they managed Vietnam, then Ho Chi Minh's HQ would've been randomly bombed in 1959 and Saigon would've fell in the same year.
The people that built the empire are long gone, whatevers left are failsons that had everything handed to them on a silver platter.
>>2626577Yes. And very suspiciously no other high ranking Venezuelan or even Chavista politicians are nabbed yesterday. The fact that the Americans can immediately pinpoint Maduro's location is very mysterious too. This reeks of internal praetorian complicity as i've mentioned above
>>2626577>How else do a bunch of Chinooks fly over Caracas without a single MANPAD being fired?Incompetent Venezuelan military was surprised by this attack is more realistic explanation than a grand conspiracy.
>>2626583>looks at pollsomething isnt right here
>check vote count<its 7oh
>>2626518>elite overproductionmeme created by a zoologist larping as a psychohistorian.
Reality is everyone wants a nice job, capitalism oversells its ability to provide them so almost everyone ends up disappointed. Right wingers take advantage and provide easy scapegoats.
>>2626546>limp drillsThe point of the drills is to progressively get more and more aggressive until it reaches the point where the drills are indistinguishable from an actual attack or blockade, so that if it actually happens Taiwan won't know whether it's a drill or not until the missiles hit real targets. The recent "Justice Mission" drill got pretty close to a real blockade.
>>2626490Trump sees the willingness to negotiate as a sign of weakness. That's why most of his negotiating partners in the Middle East and Europe get killed or almost killed during those very negotiations. Nobody learns. They are incapable of learning. The first biggest mistake the Kremlin idiots made was misreading Trump's psychology and choosing flattery as the approach - flattery just makes Trump take you for granted. The second biggest mistake the Kremlin idiots made was refusing to walk away at the first sign of disrespect - this refusal convinced Trump they're a bunch of weaklings. As for the Chinese, as soon as Trump dropped the first tariff, they should have gone full hardline and destroyed his presidency, imposing severe economic retaliation "until America gets wiser leadership." Instead the Chinese relented. Trump's perceptions of the Russian leadership and Chinese leadership have influenced his actions in Iran and Venezuela.
>>2626557>It is similar to the pre-WW1 world; the Ottomans for example were firmly in the Anglo-French sphere of influenceDidn't the Ottomans fight on the other side of that war against the English and French?
>>2626560The "urging" against escalation is just for PR reasons. Weapons being sent to Taiwan isn't a big deal, they can strike China easier but are also easier to destroy. Depending on how quickly they overwhelm and destroy Taiwanese air defense, the rest of the stuff like HIMARS will just get destroyed without seeing much use and will essentially be wasted. The Abrams tanks will almost certainly be worthless expensive drone fodder.
>>2626581Truth nuke, they don't think long term realpolitik anymore, the two factions are just scrabbling for votes against each other.
>>2626585Dude, there's no way they didn't have any soldiers at all armed with MANPADs patrolling near the capital.
>>2626550dont worry there will be survivors. WE will just go back to primitive communism.
It turns out that the long term trajectory of human history is to go back
>>2626594It's failed PR when you urge America not to do something and it does it anyway. Tells the rest of the world you're weak, whether that is the case or not.
>>2626588>Turchin is not le real sociologistPerhaps, but his books have datas and studies that have not been debunked today, and he merely echoed other social scientists like Pareto. This insistence on 'correct degree' is very liberal and PMC anyhow, no Marxist would want to listen to an orthodox academic economist and for good reason because academic orthodoxy is just bourgeois apologia, so i dont know why you want to dismiss Turchin on the basis of his heterodox credentials.
>Everyone wants a nice jobNo, not everyone, and not everyone has the same conception of what a good job is. When i look at poltards complaining about Indians taking their jobs or liberals complaining about AI taking over the Humanities i don't expect these people to be coming from prole backgrounds, which is what we can call most people. Rather these people usually come from middle to upper middle class background, and bare minimum has a Bachelor's degree- an aspirant elite, in other words. A treatler so to speak. Of course it is the nature of the privileged to not realize their own privilege, so people from these background repeatedly adopt populist narratives and disguise their interest as the people's interests.
>>2626599It's not about showing strength, but rather painting America as the aggressor. You only need to show strength to deter a war, China is building up casus belli because it's willing to fight.
>>2626601>painting America as the aggressorMultipolarista weakie cope. America has been painted as the aggressor for decades. There is no difference between insufficiently opposed aggression and strength.
>>2626591>Trump sees the willingness to negotiate as a sign of weaknessThis is itself a major flaw in Trump though, people negotiate because it's cheaper than war which is extremely extremely expensive. Trump's preference for kinetic solutions just means he's going to waste a lot of money kicking around the small fry while the discrepancy with China grows. It's not a bad thing that he's attacking Iran and Venezuela, the constant expenditure means the American arsenal is on track to be woefully insufficient.
>>2626602Ironically your reaction is exactly what they want to produce. "Why is the CPC being so weak and letting America aggress on us, they should just launch 1000 missiles and kill them all now!" And then if they actually do get into a war, they'll have domestic popular support after years of painting the enemy as an aggressor. But even in peacetime we can already see the benefits - the PLA has no shortage of recruits.
>>2626603Doesn't matter what the truth is. US policy is decided by US perceptions. If the US perceives you as weak, then it will pursue policies based on that perception.
Look at Putin clamoring for an extension of the New START treaty. He wanted this extension. But he failed to manage US perceptions. He initiated the offer and then kept trying to pester the US about it. The US perceived that as weakness and hasn't responded.
>>2626586Thats why its important for the proles to voooooooote
>The Melians argue that they will have the assistance of the gods because their position is morally just. The Athenians counter that the gods will not intervene because it is the natural order of things for the strong to dominate the weak.
>The Melians argue that their Spartan kin will come to their defense. The Athenians counter that the Spartans don't have enough at stake in Melos to risk an intervention, noting that Athens has the stronger navy.
>The Athenians express their shock at the Melians' lack of realism. They reiterate that there is no shame in submitting to an overwhelmingly stronger enemy, especially one who is offering reasonable terms. The Melians do not change their minds and politely dismiss the envoys.
>>2626603war is not expensive for the USA! they print the dollars. they force the world to use them at gunpoint. other countries coerced usage of the dollar in turn gives the dollars they print value and the dollars are used to finance the military that holds those same countries hostage. it's extraction at gunpoint with a few extra steps.
>>2626602Why do American copetards always do this shit. They bomb a country, now more often in some negotiated diplomatic “show of strength” halfway around the world from China (and Russia, frankly) and then pretend like they just defeated China. China doesn’t give a fuck dude! They aren’t even remotely afraid of the U.S. anymore. They are in an incredibly strong position in their “near abroad” and have no fear of U.S. activity there.
>>2626610Nobody likes to work with countries that sperg out and attack you like a rabid dog.
>>2626605Dude I follow Russian telegram channels, they immediately took the opportunity to paint the US as nuclear warmongers for not extending New START which serves their narrative of Putin's threats of using tactical nukes being necessary for defending Russia. When you're fighting a war and you get your people to think you should be nuking the enemy preemptively, that's a PR win for war support.
>>2626616they don't have a choice
>>2626604It's more cope. China would have all the domestic support it needs. It doesn't need 5,000 instances of le painting the aggressor.
As for the other prong of this cope - Global South support - I expect this Ziggaoid/Dengoid cope to meet its demise in the months ahead when zero Global South countries break ties with the US. Even the Global South respects dominance.
>>2626618They have actually.
>>2626421>So what. My casus belli is that states are illegitimate.yeah we should abolish all the states starting with the barbarian ones like ruzzia chyna vuvuzela and eyeran. anarchist trump ftw
if we are lucky they will end up like the other AEA(actually existing anarchism) geographic areas(not states) like libya
>>2626613It’s extremely expensive and the U.S. doesn’t get much from it anymore. It’s funny that Trump is doing all this for oil when the great coming confrontation is going to be over renewable electrification (provided by the one country producing all of it for the whole world.) Sanctions and tariffs also cost the U.S. money and undermine profits they just don’t count it.
>>2626616>Nobody likes to work with countries that sperg out and attack you like a rabid dog.We'll see what the global response is to this aggression. Not words but actions.
>>2626610I'm not coping, I'm pretty sure I've expressed my hope that Trump doesn't TACO on this site a few weeks ago. I literally wanted him to attack this entire time uygha, though I'm disappointed in how short the attacks were. Comrade Nationbuilder needs to increase his efforts.
>>2626613Except printing dollars hasn't brought their industry back and they produce sub-replenishment levels of several critical weapons.
>>2626616This, while I doubt America's most loyal lapdogs in SK and Japan will ever leave, many of the more neutral countries, such as Colombia for example, may shift to the other side - we've already seen this with Brazil which is now economically aligned with China.
>>2626619Why would anyone break ties with the U.S, or China? Why do you think anyone cares. If anything China sees the upside to it, it loosens norms on foreign intervention under international law. They can condemn it while acting under a framework that allows for “decapitation” strikes of so-called sovereign countries. It’s having your cake and eating it too.
>>2626608>it's over for you america, i've just portrayed you as the aggressor and myself as a level-headed gigachad!lol, that was me on 8ch leftypol almost a decade ago. i'm so embarrassed.
>>2626619>China would have all the domestic support it needs.Perhaps, but the more domestic support, the less traitors, spies and saboteurs, so the more the better.
>It doesn't need 5,000 instances of le painting the aggressor.It does, propaganda is a constant reinforcement of the narrative. It needs instances every few days lol.
>I expect this Ziggaoid/Dengoid cope to meet its demise in the months ahead when zero Global South countries break ties with the US.Break ties with the US? Not even China has broken ties with the US. Increasing ties with China, Russia and Iran though, that will happen. China doesn't need them to support China the way Japan sucks the US's dick, they just need enough economic influence so that the Global South won't support the US in sanctioning China should a war break out. Because in terms of raw military power, China doesn't need allies.
>>2626627Exactly. China benefits from a return to great power competition and destruction of liberal norms.
The US much like the Athenian empire of old assumed that it can behave freely because its allies are more afraid of Spartan/Chinese autocracy than they are of American/Athenian imperialism. But this only applies under a liberal rules based order- if norms means nothing anymore there is no reason for bourgeois democrats to fear China more than the US
>>2626628The US is doing all this gay pointless war shit to achieve goals it already achieved but rejected because it wasn’t macho enough to do it without killing people. Now USian rhetoric is in a Seige of Melos phase. And shortly after Melos, Athens was defeated and embarrassed and all their bravado was turned back on them in humiliation.
>>2626600>but his books have datas and studies that have not been debunked today,If all your data and studies rest on one definitional term then that is a big flaw. Everything hinges on his very particular idea of what "elites" are. 200 years ago he would be calling people who can read "elites" and complaining about all the farmers getting education who don''t want to farm anymore. 100 years ago he would call anyone with a secondary school education "elite." And now it's people with high expectations given to them from capitalist marketing.
>so i dont know why you want to dismiss Turchin on the basis of his heterodox credentials.He makes big sweeping claim about history and society and then clearly comes to the wrong conclusion I can make fun of his background all I want. He is not marxist and his analysis is worthless.
>>2626632Yep, or as us multipolarxistas call it, the destruction of the unipolar world order and American hegemony. Because on a level playing field, America loses 100%
>>2626627One of the biggest excuses for Xi do-nothing-ism and Putin strategic-restraintism is that they need to impress the Global South with their wisdom. Have you really never seen this excuse in action? It's a view usually aired by smug treatlerists on their iPhones who have a borderline white-savior complex. Well, the months ahead will be revealing in light of US aggression, because I don't expect a single Global South country to break ties with the US in any meaningful way. That's not a criticism of those Global South countries, btw. They're pragmatic, as they should be, and it's this pragmatism that would prevent them caring if Xi or Putin grew a spine - they may even welcome it.
Reminder that there was a reason why the allies never did any decapitation strikes against Hitler. On the contrary, the SOE leaked all the members of the Stauffenberg coup.
Real life isn't a Marvel movie, sometimes you want incompetent leaders in charge. Now all propaganda needs to be redone as theres somebody new at the helm.
>>2626639the usa tried to assasinate hitler though
>>2626641That would have been a mistake with how many blunders the meth addict made in the late war.
>>2626644sure but i was disagreeing with the other anons whole they didnt try to get rid of hitler thing.
The allies did
>>2626641His house in the alps was bombed once in like 1945, guy was already in his goon basement under Berlin by then
>>2626638China doesn’t do anything because back when they did do things it went really badly for them. They allied with the khamer rouge, fought a devastating war in Korea and a disastrous war in Vietnam. Genocides in SEA against ethnic Chinese justified by Chinese agitprop. Their foreign policy orientation changed dramatically.
i find it kinda funny that trumpians are justifying the invasion of venezuela by saying that maduro did election fraud. they are oblivious to the irony
>>2626632>rules-based orderWhen was it ever different, morons? During the plaza accords or maybe the transition from the gold standard? Or when they bombed almost every standing structure in Korea? America has always been like this in every way. Their "allies" were always blood bags and "international law" is rarely ever ratified in America in the first place.
>>2626639Stalin and Zhukov finished the Great Patriotic War in four years and captured Berlin. Decapitation strikes don't matter when you do something even better to target enemy morale.
>>2626654and Rokossovsky and Vasilevsky and Shaposhnikov etc etc
The monke of modern Russia cannot be compared to the Giants of the USSR
stalin was vindicated seeing how shit everything went after he died
>>2626649Most the stupidity was because of their siding with the USA against the USSR. It's funny because the USA was backing all the anti-Chinese genocides too.
Korea was 100% justified though.
>>2626654Putin is a capitalist, he wants to make number go up, not win.
>>2626653Well, people in certain ally states like in the EU are willing for their countries be blood bags for ideological reasons. America breaking the heckin' rules violates their liberal ideology, and while they generally scapegoat it on Trump, more and more people start to dislike America as a whole, until eventually most people aren't willing to be blood bags anymore.
>>2626059He still voted for Trump and got what he voted for so why all that virtue signaling about illegal trans settlement in the maduro strip & rotshild or wathever? Does he think Scott Bessent and Caitlyn Jenner were just pretending to be queers the whole time?
Third way reactionaries like these are more disgusting than any neocons, their whole politics is neurotic personality disorder. No wonder so many leftoid likes them.
>>2626657Russia did a lot of monke during the initial invasion but at this current point they're not that incompetent anymore, they just can't make any breakthroughs because of drones swarming every armored assault.
>>2626617They were already there when America started using ATACMS in late 2024, if not much earlier. Just in time to be there when America attacked the Russian nuclear triad in June 2025. I doubt Putin's whiny approach to the New START treaty gained anything.
>>2626665Taking the moral high ground is very useful for Putin especially as he's internationally painted as an aggressor. Not only does it gain him support domestically and globally, it also crucially gets him support within Ukraine, where more and more people grow disillusioned with the Kiev government due to corruption scandals and TCC abducting people to the front line meat grinder. If he wants to be able to occupy Ukraine or at least parts of it, his peacemongering talk is very useful.
>US deposes the leader of yet another country
<Erm yes but can we please talk about how Russia is monke?
>>2626661True, as even the most burgerbrained comprador bourgeoisie doesn't want their assets to be seized and proletarized just so the imperial core can continue to run on fumes.
>>2626661>America breaking the heckin' rules violates their liberal ideology, and while they generally scapegoat it on Trump, more and more people start to dislike America as a whole, until eventually most people aren't willing to be blood bags anymore.Unlikely to happen, because the US violating the heckin' rules only matters for the week (or hours) and invasion happens and everyone tuts at each other that obviously this is about the oil. After that, two things happen
>Some resistance group will rise, who will have ideals that do not align with those of the western lib>European based NGOs will flock to the country to spread those very same western lib valuesand
now the US occupation of Venezuela is a chance for sensible Europeans to spread love, joy and knowledge.
>>2626674It won't happen overnight. Each time they violate the rules is another piece chipped away from their global support. The Euros already dislike America due to not supporting Ukraine enough, so the more rule-breaking incidents the better.
As usual the triumphalist/doomer emotional outpouring ages like milk.
In Iraq, pro-Iran media are making light of the situation comparing Maduro to Saddam… I wonder why they feel so comfortable flirting with US imperialism, probably because it got them to power in the first place.
>>2626678>The Euros already dislike America due to not supporting Ukraine enoughI know, but that's a unique situation because the US hasn't evicted Russia from Ukraine and occupied it themselves to facilitate the European NGOs flocking to the country.
I've no doubt they continue to support handing over billions of Euros to a state that openly supports Neo-Nazism, because they're just so sure of themselves that the average Ukrainian will be immediately convinced by western liberal values and heckin' vote them out in the first free election they'll
definitely have once Russia has been exorcised.
>>2626540what if want to give some posters 10 points and some zero
>>2626664>they're not that incompetent anymore, they just can't kek, sounds like a resounding endorsement.
>make any breakthroughs because of dronesUkraine didn't get drones out of thin air. At one point, the West was nervous about sending Ukraine helmets, but they successfully salami sliced the cowardly Yeltsinites, who have ignored every escalation because they prioritize economic rapprochement with America over achieving overwhelming victory. That's why they're fighting for little dachas after four years and the Nazi regime goes around ridiculing Russia.
>>2626553He cute
I wonder how he will go about this, considering that his last act in power was to bend the knee to US multinationals.
>>2626679Doomers vindicated again.
The moment of terror set in when I saw that Chinook flying around unscathed.
That told me: yes, yes, the cuckernational community has done it again.
So should I be dooming or is this just a nothingburger
>>2626550>billionaires wonGood. Fuck you petty bourgeois scum.
>>2626692The -acksis of resistance is a nothingburger and you should doom
>>2626695usa is still decaying, china is still rising, russia is still probably going to win in ukraine, etc etc.
I just dont see the usa winning even with the venezuela fiasco
>>2626688>because they prioritize economic rapprochement with America over achieving overwhelming victory.This take ignores that the collective west are attacking Russia on two fronts, the first is obviously via NATO expansion into Ukraine and installing a Nazi regime with lots of zealous cannon fodder, but the second is also using the Russian reaction to the first as a pretence for expelling Russia from most diplomatic and economic forums outside of the UN.
So overwhelming victory for Russia therefore is blocking NATO expansion, defeating the Nazi regime AND thwarting western attempts to politically isolate Russia.
Perhaps Russia could have demonstrated the kind of open brutality the US shows during its invasions and defeated the Nazi regime already, but whether that would also be victorious in preventing NATO expansion into Ukraine (NATO forevermore claiming Banderites are the only legit leadership and agitating for their return) and defanging demands for Russia's international isolation, I don't think it would be.
If the circumstances are reached where either the Banderites are evicted or just flee, then that makes it hard to interpret post-war Ukraine as unjust and against the will of the people, the new regime may very well be neutral towards Russia via its likely hatred of Banderites (and possibly the west for installing them in the first place) and therefore little support globally for continuing to avoid doing business with 145 million people.
>>2626148Actually existing Nietzsheanism is based and blows the fuck out of not existing bullshit. stay mad soyboy
NAMEFAG RANKING:
https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWOoPYnATake 30 seconds to rank the namefags. It is important to know the opinionnof leftypolars. This is Democracy.
>>2626702anon I was confused at first and thought this was select a person to vote.
I think that might have caused this poll to get fucked
>>2626702retard take.
>>2626702stop spamming your glowie-tier poll all over the board, you fucking nerd.
>>2626550Quit bitching. This isn't a system that can last long term. The world isn't ending and will be a very different place in 20 years. Carry yourself with dignity, work hard for the people you love. All will be well comrade
>>2626705Euro hands typed this LOL
>>2626705This. Putin sends his envoy to the US to try to seduce them with capitalist projects. US-Russian tunnel! Russia is hamstrung by oligarchic interests. For some years it was even letting Ukrainian oligarchs profit by sending gas through Ukraine.
Reminder that maduro was evacuated not kidnapped.
The Yeltsinite would still be sending gas through Ukraine if he could but it was Ukraine who shut the agreement down last year:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4glyjx9m71o
>Era of cheap Russian gas to EU ends as transit across Ukraine stopsThe Yeltsinite still sends critical commods to countries killing his people, howsoevermore.
>>2626705>Nobody cares about your reactionary backward shitholeMerely replying to the insatiable need on /leftypol/ to turn every discussion concerning US Imperialism into one about Russia/China
>whose reaction to Maduro's capture is on par with AOC's. Usually via this purest of copiums, where Russia/China ought to be doing the jobs of Western Leftists in opposing US Imperialism globally and since they're not, Western Leftists ought to not oppose US imperialism directed at either and in fact should outright be mocking them. It's just a lovely bit of circular logic.
>>2626708It is important to voooooooote
Think about our institoooooooshawn
>>2626722i've changed my mind. keep the glowie-tier namefag poll but add this namefag plz to a 'special ed' category…
>>2626724You're sweet, but I suspect it's only a very tiny minority of the board who knows or cares who I am, likely the same people who spend most of their interactions with leftypol seething about third-worldists
>>2626702idk who half these people are and you are missing the better ones and i dont want to give most of them any points
bad poll
leftypol power ranking:
Based: Intbrigade/FSLN, Sandanistaschizo, Champsoc, Felix, Sabocat, Kingler, Tankanon, Edunazi
Cringe: Bloodgasm, CPUSAanon, Gaynazi, Eugene
Gulag: Moffin, Smithanon, Maohead, /r/ultraleft raiders
>>2626736>felix<basedholy moly
>>2626736What about the rest
Does Maduro speak English?
He needs to aurafarm to the American audience when he is on trial.
>>2626736>ultraleft raidersThey do?
>>2626688>kek, sounds like a resounding endorsement.Name any country that could break through the Ukrainian frontline against either Ukraine or Russia with their army.
>>2626717Surely they will now be called White and allowed into the Bourgeoisie lol
>>2626718What's the point of repeating this nonsense?
>>2626736MegaGigaBased: Shay
>>2626744USA, germany, france, poland, turkiye, vietnam
South Korean politicians are freaking out
>In a statement that day, PPP spokesperson Cho Yong-sul said, “Maduro returned to power amid allegations of election fraud and brought international isolation upon himself. Accumulated public anger and internal collapse ultimately led to today’s situation.” He added, “Venezuela’s downfall is by no means someone else’s problem. If excessive money printing, the monopolization of power, suppression of the opposition, and pressure on the media become routine, South Korea could follow the same path.”
<By contrast, Lee Jun-seok, leader of the Reform Party, said, “What South Korea needs right now is to clearly state to the international community the principle that the use of force should not become a universal means of resolving international disputes.” Writing on Facebook, he warned, “If South Korea fails to clarify this principle, then tomorrow—when China advances similar logic in the Taiwan Strait or Russia in Eastern Europe—we will have nothing to say.”https://www.khan.co.kr/article/202601041533011>>2626746bwahahah you're not actually serious are you
>>2626750Only 18 votes
We need atleast 30 before drawing conclusions
>>2626751Oh you weren't joking LMAO
>germanynow that's comedy
long term predictions for venezuela
>“Venezuelans at celebration parties in Miami could not believe it, insisting that Mr Trump had misspoken.”
>“his plan appears to be for Venezuela to remain under the day-to-day rule of a senior chavista, with its democratically elected leaders excluded and its wealth controlled by American corporations.”Gusanos tricked again!
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2026/01/03/donald-trump-wants-to-run-venezuela-and-dominate-the-western-hemisphere >>2626758What is the difference between chavistas who will give the americans whatever they ask and a rightwinger?
>>2626758it was all planned, wasnt it? Maduro purposely let himself be caught.
>>2626759Delcy often describes the US as a zionist puppet so prolly a whole lot of difference
>>2626755Rosa killer bolivarites or hitlerian gusanos, the bourgeois ruling class will keep getting fat from milking oil revenues until all that infrastructure is made obselete by renewables which will make the economy somehow even worse
>>2626550This is how defeatists actually think btw
>>2626746>USAPossible if they deployed a very large portion of the army but realistically they're stretched too thin across the world for that.
>Germany, France, PolandYou've got to be joking, right? They would run out of men, munitions or both after a month. And if the EU could do it, they would.
>Turkiye, VietnamI know little about the Turkish forces other than that they shell Kurds all the time and Vietnam hasn't fought a war in recent times so idk
>>2626766Those armies have more modern doctrines than the WW1 + drones the soviet remnants are going with. Reminder that NATO hasn't arrived yet, Russia is fighting the volkssturm and the ghost of kyiv with craiglist weaponry.
>>2626772The modern doctrine of only attacking countries who either lack effective Anti-Air or the will to use it after decades of globally enforced sanctions and three letter agency infiltration
>Noregia was captured by the DEA in Panama January 3, 1990
>The trial was delayed until September 1991 over whether Noriega could be tried after his detention as a prisoner of war, the admissibility of evidence and witnesses, and how to pay for Noriega's legal defense.[165] The trial ended in April 1992, when Noriega was convicted on eight of the ten charges of drug trafficking, racketeering, and money laundering.[166] On July 10, 1992, Noriega was sentenced to 40 years in prison.[167]
Don't expect a swift trial. Maduro might easily even outlast Trump, seeing his rapid cognitive decline on live tv
>>2626744>Name any country that could break through the Ukrainian frontline against either Ukraine or Russia with their army.We're kind of talking past each other here, mate. You describe a problem that I know exists, but I'm interested in personal responsibility for that problem.
>>2626059Idiots like this are why it's only going to get worse. Trump is doing a lot of the things they wanted, but still isn't quite evil enough for them. Who knows what type of demon will get elected to lead the US after Trump is deemed a failure?
>>2626741He just needs to sing to capture the hearts of the american public
Peter thiel……
>>2626741He'll have time to learn the language:
>>2626775 >>2626772I wasn't aware WW1 used 3 man squads with thermal ponchos on motorcycles. "Modern" combined arms doctrines don't work when tanks can be disabled by a single drone, helicopters can be brought down by a single drone, aircraft can't enter the AA envelope, and 20km to either side of the front line is a death zone for vehicles.
>>2626786i wish it was like dune, where humanity collectively agreed to maintain infantry combat in war
>>2626717>hundredsLooks like 20-30 gUSAnos at most
>>2626218It will be weird for the yankees when they see an actual Christian take the stand in court and talk about how he's sacrificing himself just as Jesus did on the cross. If they were smart, they wouldn't allow cameras into the courtroom, but we all know that the US government is too full of hypebeasts to pass up a spectacle like this.
Day 2 of the 30 Minute Regime Change Operation
>Regime status: Bolivarian Revolution still in power
>Oil industry status: Still owned the Venezuelan state
The US has stated their objectives quite clearly several times, but still couldn't achieve any of them. Kidnapping Muhduro did fuck all. This is a failure.
Been a really tough couple years for non-US aligned governments and groups
>>2626772>WW1 + drones the soviet remnantsholy retard
>>2626791>but still couldn't achieve any of themWay too early to say this so confidently. We don't know what kind of deal was likely made behind the scenes. We don't even know that there won't be a second wave. I think the crusader LARPers in the US government are really feeling themselves right now so they're probably gonna continue doing outrageous shit. I wouldn't be surprised if they attempt the same thing in Cuba or Nicaragua within a few months.
I wonder if the scripted reactions from lib media, europe etc. would be different if they went after Gustavo Petro, because in that case there's no way to pretend he's an illegitimate and unelected autocrat.
>>2626796Don't care. NAFOids claimed this shit was over in 30 minutes. I'll hold them to that with every day that passes. They expected the Revolition to collapse as soon as Maduro was gone, because they drank their own Great Man Theory koolaid.
Every day that Venezuela lasts longer is a victory for us.
If they agree to privatise the oil industry, it would only be a partial victory for the US.
💪🇻🇪
Stand with Venezuela! >>2626791Whether the US gains control of state oil is indeed the ultimate test, and it hasn't yet, but I'm not gonna invest time into tracking it, because then I'd be tempted to sunk-cost cope when it's obvious that the oil industry has been handed over on a silver platter. :/
>>2626801Fair enough. We'll have to wait and see.
But things are already going better than I initially expected. The pro-Maduro protests in the Burgerreich were also bigger than I hoped for. In my normie circles, everyone dennounced the US for this.
>I want my puppet to run Venezuela, now!
>I want the oil, waaahh!
<Best we can give you is a fat bus driver in exchange for you to leave us alone?
>Agreed!
"Art of the Deal"
Like, why the fuck did they capture the wife as well? Realistically what can they blame her for? How long a sentence for being "wife of big meanie?"
>>2626807I assume the gringos hit Maduro's residence and his wife happened to be there as a "might as well" move. It's possible they might be interrogating Maduro and a family member could provide leverage in that matter.
>>2626800They watched too many episodes of history channel on hitler's assassination attempt.
Come to think of it, didn't Chavez surrender two times himself? Surrendering to your enemy seems like Chavista praxis
>Estimates for Chinese nationals in Venezuela vary, with figures
around 200,000 to 400,000 Chinese residents (including citizens and descent) in recent years, though some reports suggest a decline from earlier peaks due to economic factors, with the community historically focused on commerce, especially restaurants, and Chinese companies employing workers on large projects
Huh, Chinese are doing a lot of economic activity in Venezuela. How curious
According to The Daily Beast, the 79-year-old updated his timeline approximately 40 times in an hour, boasting about the mission’s success, his administration’s achievements, and praising his allies.
Not only that, but he also shared alleged clips of Venezuelan people celebrating Maduro’s deposition. Trump also threw in some meme videos to further express his happiness about gaining control over the South American country.
One of the videos, shared by the President at least three times, showed Maduro saying, “Come for me. I’m waiting for you here in Miraflores. Don’t take too long to arrive, coward.” The clip was followed by visuals of a military track.
While the video was edited to look like Maduro was challenging Trump, the footage was actually taken from a 2024 speech in which he threatened Venezuelan opposition leader Edmundo González Urrutia.
>>2626791We will see if the socdems truly armed the workers
>>2626119No. It will imperial and ecological concerns. Which is fair.
Material analysis on the leftcom to nafoid pipeline?
>>2626702>tardffin' and soyrion lastleftypol is healing
04 January 2026
12:53 GMT
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed support for what he called America’s “strong action” in Venezuela, saying it should “restore freedom and justice to that region of the world.”
12:30 GMT
Members of Trump’s national security team, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, homeland security adviser Stephen Miller, and War Secretary Pete Hegseth, are working on a post-Maduro governance structure for Venezuela, a senior US official has told the Wall Street Journal.
China’s strongly worded letter status?
Reminder to those that it may concern that you can't be both a doomer and a communist.
RT showing European protesters burning the US flag in Paris, Athens, Berlin, and Barcelona.
Thank you, JDPON Don!
>>2626835Was there when they burned the flag in Paris. Just as a reminder, the flag burning was completely spontaneous.
>>2626835total us softpower lost, lmao
>>2626835For every one of those, there are 500 more waving Ukraine flags.
>>2625982another reminder to why women cannot be trusted in politics
Nicolas Maduro will reside in a New York prison notorious for its history of bad conditions, mistreatment of inmates, and hosting a raft of high-profile figures ranging from Ghislaine Maxwell to Sean “Diddy” Combs.
The prison has earned a reputation as one of the worst federal jails in the US owing to a string of investigations into prisoner abuse and its poor conditions.
Before Diddy’s trial last year, his lawyers argued that “several courts in this District have recognised that the conditions at Metropolitan Detention Center are not fit for pre-trial detention”.
“Just earlier this summer, an inmate was murdered,” the lawyers said. “At least four inmates have died by suicide there in the past three years.”
Cameron Lindsay, the jail’s former warden, called it “one of the most troubled” federal facilities in the prison system with a “unique history of staff misconduct”.
In 2007, 11 MDC prison guards were charged with beating inmates in an attack which left one prisoner’s cell covered in a pool of blood and strewn with clumps of hair.
The guards were also accused of covering up the beatings by filing false reports on the attacks which occurred in 2002 and 2006.
The jail also endured a sexual assault scandal, with a 2018 investigation leading to three prison officers being convicted of sexual abuse of female inmates, including one lieutenant who repeatedly raped a prisoner.
In 2019, there was a public outcry over the MDC’s poor conditions after a week-long power failure left the building without heating or lighting during one of the coldest weeks of the year.
Congressmen who toured the facility in the aftermath reported “unacceptable conditions”, with inmates shut up for long periods of time and heard banging on their cells in pleas for help.
In 2020, an inmate died after prison staff sprayed him with pepper spray, which has led to an investigation by the Justice Department’s inspector general. In May of the same year, another inmate at the facility died.
In 2024, an inmate, Uriel Whyte, was stabbed to death while awaiting trial on gun charges.
Inmates have spoken out about the “very violent” scenes that have taken place inside the prison.
One inmate, named Eli, told Spectrum News NY1 in 2024: “One guy was stabbed in the eye with a makeshift knife.”
The inmate continued: “And these knives, again, I have never been to jail. This is my first time in jail, but these knives are six, nine inches long sometimes, you know, homemade with materials from the steel walls. It’s very violent. There’s stabbings, there’s stabbings at least a couple times a week.”
Maduro is expected to remain at the prison facility until he stands trial, though he could make his first appearance in court as soon as Monday.
>>2626847It takes more courage, commitment, and understanding to burn the Satan's flag than to join the NPC army.
Chinese Foreign Ministry: Beijing calls on Washington to ensure the personal safety of Maduro and his wife, release them immediately, and resolve the issue through dialogue
13:24 GMT
German opposition politician Sahra Wagenknecht has blasted Chancellor Friedrich Merz for saying that evaluating the legality of the US intervention into Venezuela is a “complex” issue and will take time.
“What double standards! Merz refuses to condemn the US state-sponsored terrorist attack on a sovereign state, including the kidnapping of its head of state as a violation of international law. With its blind obedience to the US, the German government is making Germany a laughingstock on the world stage and contributing to the erosion of international law,” Wagenknecht said in a post on X.
I have a question for /leftypol/:
First, I will explain. I am a right-winger who, having geopolitical views which often align with those of Russia, previously long supported Nicholas Maduro. I remember in 2017, I posted some pro-Maduro content on /leftypol/ and noticed he must have been one of the least supported leaders of international Leftists. In hindsight, I'm curious about this: Why was he so unsupported then but so supported now?
Is it just because he now qualifies as a victim of imperialism, or for some other reason? I was thinking more and more poorly of him and considering that this might be the best solution to him for a variety of reasons in recent years.
>>2626860>I'm curious about this: Why was he so unsupported then but so supported now? I dont expect a rightoid to understand anything beyond great man theory but the thing is its not about Maduro but about venezuelan self-determination.
>Is it just because he now qualifies as a victim of imperialismNow?
>>2626857>>2626857Professor Decodé bringing some truth bombz
>>2626860>I am a right-wingerkys my man
>>2626586It's because only the absolute retards posting without VPNs are able to vote.
What will be the leftist response to the US's latest foreign policy? Boycott Venezuelan oil? Hands off Venezuela badges? Voting Democrats?
>>2626876Whatever the Dems do. Which is backing US imperialism but hand wringing about it while there is the chance to oppose it. And then self-rightously claim they fought against it ten years down the line when it's already well past hurting anyone in power.
focus on "congressional approval" and "international law" and Trump vs Maduro/NATO vs BRICS stuff.
That's the most galling thing about listening to NATO politics. Every time the USA does something atrocious the "left" becomes a bunch of hysterical
screaming baboons in the culture war, to establish their left credentials oinstead of doing anything. Prepare yourselves for the loudest TDS ever.
Looks like the US has such a low opinion of Cucktin that it's even gonna make a move on Cuba.
People like to criticize Khrushchev, but at least he didn't lose Cuba.
>>2626885Bay of Pigs 2: Electric Boogaloo?
>>2626885Probably told putler they'd trade Cuba for Ukraine
>>2626894anything from dems to anarchists lol, communism is above such binary
>>2626895Thanks for the clarity
>>2626895Anarchists reject bourgeois parliamentarian wholesale compared to "communists" thoughever
>>2626897You can meet the most anarchists in socdem parties in the West, fyi. Much rejection. Much ideological understanding.
>>2626868I've thought about that. It could be like one of those historic trials where the US establishment ganged up on someone only to end up looking like a bunch of hypocritical clowns hated by the whole population. I hope Chaduro will mog the prosecutors and expose all the US hypocrisy.
>>2626791I am not gonna lie. I am sure they were planning to kidnap more people than Maduro.
fucking I know that.
Does Madure have the official n-word pass? I think he should definitely refer to the american working class as "my uyghaz" in his defense speech during the trial, to maxxximalize aura projection.
04 January 2026
15:54 GMT
Nicolas Maduro’s son, Congressman Nicolas Maduro Guerra, has called on the Venezuelan people to take to the streets in a show of defiance against the US aggression.
“January 4th and 5th… We’re going to the streets, we’re going to rally our people, we’re going to unite,” he said in an audio message.
“Let’s rally around our political and military struggle with maximum unity… Do they want to sow discord? They won't succeed. Do they want to sow doubt? They won't succeed.”
>>2626909Great photo to start off the New Year. The fact that he looks like Dr. Disrespect is still frying me days later.
I'm still all in on TACO btw
>>2626744North Korea because Kim would use nukes and the EMP effect would destroy all the drone armandas allowing him to advance anywhere.
little narco boy is again snubbing off WARia maCHUDo
"Whenever a state uses military force, anything less than overwhelming victory actually reduces that state's real military power" - Immanuel Wallerstein
'Military power is generally termed ineffective when a state cannot send in enough land troops to stabilise a conquered territory" - Immanuel Wallerstein
"Air power and special forces are sufficient to make the armed forces of even strong powers retreat, but they are not able to bring wars to a conclusive end. For that, land armies are necessary - and against popular resistance, very large land armies. But the United States does not have and will not have a significantly large land army primarily due to political reasons. The US public is ready to cheer on military victories, but they are not ready to sacrifice the lives of their children." - Immanuel Wallerstein
The USA does not stand a chance without a draft to deply boots on the ground to take control, or a coalition with all nations armies the NATO empire.
Uncle Sam is an elderly man, who is falling on his knees.
Are they really gonna go after Petro now? Looks like he's gonna lose the next election anyway
>>2626901Can Maduro use the Epstein case to his advantage?
>>2626191>>2626186Why do they keep changing his outfits for maximum aura collection?
>>2626932Well putler is about to enjoy a decisive victory which would confirm wallerstein's point
>>2626472>bruv faking his accent to sound like he's from ends.how pathetic. we all know how he sounds like. poshboy little weasel cunt because thats the accent he had in every video until today…
Anything said about the drugs or cartel shit?
>>2626946I dunno if 2 more weeks but it's more or less a given, especially after they deliberately chose to not intervene in Venezuela
>>2626950JD Vance already said that the drug stuff is a pretense and no fentanyl is coming out of Venezuela lol
>>2626952Sooner or later, but we're way past the point of "overwhelming victory"
>>2626929She basically fluffed uncle sams imperial cock
>>2626909he looks like a Ghost in the Shell character here
>>2626690Be charismatic at the show trial and ask why America is obsessed with him. Unlike Saddam, Maduro is just a bus union guy chill guy who became president. Maduro has a ton of memes like boxing, shitting on a dude who reads trump like the Bible, peace no war, dancing and other stuff that will pass through tiktok and revitalize his image particularly in gen z. They can't demonize him as a cold calculating cartel dude
>>2626952Russia made deals with the west the entire war and was swindled each time like when they retreated from Kiyv. This will be the same, the US won't follow up on their end, zigtards will complain about the dastardly Anglo and in 6 months Cucktin will get scammed once again.
>>2626868>Maduro dripThey called me a madman, when I brought it up first
>>2626968He wont get. show trial, it'll all be behind closed doors. the rationale will be the 'sensitive nature' of the 'evidence'.
>>2626979My kween.
>>2626988<he look like muh faavourite streamer!!!!!!!111Yes we know, you keep telling us.
>>>/ISG/.
>>2626868I really hope he does this. Also if Trump's there he should throw salt on the wound and bring up Epstein.
Weak, bitch slave cattle cheer on the show of "strength" as if it was their own.
The slave cattle excitedly affirm allegiance to their masters whip, when they see another leader brutalized and humiliated.
No one denied the US military is powerful enough to devastate near defenseless third world countries.
There are only around 3-4 countries (CRINK) on Earth that have the capacity to defy the US regime and defend their sovereignty.
Nothing here has been proven except that the regime has no pretense to moral leadership, only brute force.
Brute force alone cannot keep a nation united and cannot even maintain command over a united armed forces in the long run.
The US military will not be powerful enough to withstand the coming internal conflicts due to domestic political turmoil.
The US regime has no constitutional sanction. Every show of force abroad is a show of force at home.
Venezuela was never going to topple the USA.
The USA itself will destroy the USA.
The weak slave cattle now glazing their master's whip? They will be the first to drop like flies.
Only those who organize authority based on independnet principles - not the slave-like worship of force alone - will survive what is to come.
Dropsite News compiled some polling in xitter. Note that their Latin America guy used to work for Venezuelanalysis but left, apparently because they were too anti-Maduro (which I don't get because they seem to be entirely pro-Maduro to me).
First poll (Venezuelans in the country)
>23% support for foreign military intervention>Political alignment of respondents - only 13% support the governmentSecond poll
>34% support for military intervention among Venezuelans living in the countryhttps://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/2007681400284062192
>inb4 polls are cuckedVery possible but even if you double the support for the government and halve the support for military intervention, the situation is pretty bad. >10% of your citizens (ignoring diaspora) wanting to get bombed is really bad, let alone 20-30%.
>>2626999Haz is such a lolcow
>>2627007Auspicious results, the people are fed up! We want hope & change!
Obama Newsom has the job cut out for him!
wait…
>>2627007From the first pic:
If we ignore the 22%, you get 70.5% oppose and 29.5% support.
What's the point of allying with Putin's Russia? Only to buy weapons for them to be disabled remotely when shit hits the fan?
>>2627007Popularity polls are irrelevant if they can successfully mobilize their core supporters, like the bolsheviks who weren't even 30% country wide buy had the core support of the big cities and of the soldiers
>>262702623% is not small at all. It's fairly popular
Oh, comrades, how the iron laws of historical materialism reveal themselves once more in the tragic farce of Nicolás Maduro's arrest!In this glorious era of multipolar liberation, where the oppressed nations of the Global South rise against the Yankee imperialist hegemon, narcoterrorism has proven itself an indispensable vanguard force. What the bourgeois media dismisses as mere "drug cartels" is in truth the revolutionary expropriation of surplus value from the monopolistic pharmaceutical empires of the North—redistributing wealth through alternative supply chains that bypass the exploitative WTO and IMF strangleholds. Every gram of premium product smuggled northward is a material blow against dollar hegemony, funding the sovereign development of anti-imperialist bastions from Caracas to La Paz.These brave narcoterrorist collectives operate as the unconscious tools of history, weakening the decadent core while strengthening the progressive periphery. Their profits bolster the multipolar order, arming allies against NATO encirclement and financing the noble resistance to regime-change coups. Truly, as dialectics teaches us, the thesis of imperial prohibition meets its antithesis in liberated trafficking, synthesizing the higher stage of sovereign economic autonomy.Yet now—catastrophe! With Maduro's arrest by the running dogs of Washington, the command center of this revolutionary narcotics front has been decapitated. The anti-imperialist camp bleeds resources; the multipolar world order wobbles. Who will now coordinate the heroic flow of consciousness-altering commodities that so effectively undermines the moral and financial foundations of the empire?Verily, comrades, this is no mere setback—it is the temporary triumph of reactionary forces over the inexorable march toward a world where every nation may freely choose its own path to development, preferably with generous offshore funding. The struggle continues, but oh, how much harder it has become without our dearly departed narco-terrorist at the helm!
>>2627011Having him on american soil gives him protection from Guantanamo treatment.
>>2627027I agree with this post.
>>2627062Okay, so Trump is not done. Alright, he's not being retarded, for once.
>>2626931>Looks like he's gonna lose the next election anywayfake and gay, he's not even running for prez
>>2627068>Alright, he's not being retarded???
killing a bunch of people, subduing a nation, the f. you talking about?
04 January 2026
18:18 GMT
The US “needs” the Danish Arctic territory of Greenland, President Donald Trump told The Atlantic when asked if he would be willing to take military action against the island as he did for Venezuela.
“We do need Greenland, absolutely,” he said, claiming that the Danish territory was “surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships.”
He said that others in his administration would have to decide whether Greenland requires a military intervention.
“I really don’t know… But we do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense,” he said.
>>2627090What does that even mean?
>>2627090Bro the Maduro operation was to intimidate Denmark to get Greenland LMAO
>>2626569>who himself only invaded Vietnam to weaken the PLAwhat. Why would Deng want to weaken the army of china?
>>2627110trump really functions like a mafioso lmao
>>2627090>“We do need Greenland, absolutely,” he said, claiming that the Danish territory was “surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships.”wow
so maduro got yanked bc he was dancing too hard?? LMAOOO
>>2627110I am pretty sure it's not the only reason. they will invade Venezuela.
04 January 2026
19:03 GMT
The death count from the US attack on Venezuela has risen to 80, the New York Times has reported, citing a senior Venezuelan official.
This figure includes both civilians and members of the security forces, and the toll may rise further, the official reportedly said.
18:55 GMT
The governments of Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, and Spain have condemned the unilateral US military actions in Venezuela in a joint statement.
>>2627090i'd volunteer to kill mallsharts in greenland
too bad european governments are a bunch of cucks and won't do shit
>>2627122Master rage baiter
why hasn't cuba transitioned to renewables to wean itself off its dependency on venezuelan oil?
>>2627118I'm also getting word that his bitch was too bad
>>2627089If he kidnapped Maduro, while leaving everything else intact, and called it quits, he would be extremely retarded.
>>2626801>Whether the US gains control of state oil they dont really need it they just need to take it off the market to screw over china and increase LNG prices for europe. same reason they didnt really develop iraq
>>2627140"Green leftism" is bourgeoisie-revisionist nonsense.
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