>>12890Sometimes a man has gotta have a gay ass dessert, as a far more ripped dude I know online says. Sorry you weren't able to get a great photo, I would have a hard time taking pictures of myself around other people too. I had a real problem with not photographing things in general. The best pic which works when I dm it to people is actually just me in a sweater against a nice backdrop of trees. Do you have a lot of sun and woods around rn?
Still idk I have to insist everyone else who is liable to be negatively affected by it (like me) to just not bother with dumb apps.
That being said, it is genuinely easier to rebuild a social circle through just fucking random people online until you are kinda friends and having them drag your autistic ass around. This has been the only way I've really figured out other than community sports, meeting ppl thru work, and school.
>>12891 (me)
Oh no I got so sincere-posty I started doing Markdown/Reddit spacing for some reason
>>12897there have been some who have shown interest, i've gone on dates, just never had a gf.
Like I said, I know it's not anything major, but just randomly thought of it.
>>12899Why are you telling them to lean into this omg? Can we go back to talking about diet and exercise and how it makes this stuff slide off of you?
>>12893I'm serious about this most calories from protein thing. Cheapest way is eggs, chicken, yogurt, legumes. It gives you a lot of energy to get stuff done so you don't channel a feeling of self doubt that results into put downs.
>>12901Scream at your NEET sibling or do violence to them. Anyway, sorry for your situation and shit.
You can monetize a CS degree like no problem.
>>12901You're almost over the worst part. You have to persevere. You will overcome this, I promise, no matter how dire things seem now.
Get an internship asap. You also need to hyperfocus on your health. It will pay off, I promise. Having suicidal thoughts in a state like this is indicative of poor health. You're not thinking clearly and getting out of this rut in your condition is going to be very very hard, but the good news is that even small changes to your lifestyle will improve your conditions greatly.
>>12901>I wanna fucking kill myself. My dad probably isn't going to live much longer and my brother is moving out to live with his "gf", so I'm eventually going to be the sole caretaker of a NEET sibling, an aging mother and a severely disabled, non verbal sibling in an extremely high cost of living area with no career. I'm almost done with my computer science degree but I personally don't feel it's going to help me. I made every mistake possible during my studies (first gen college student) and am getting old. this sucks anon, very sorry to hear, how u can balance ur fam w/ ur studes iz crazy. first step is like
>>12903 recommended yell at that fucking neet fag that leeches in yo home. they don' t even gotta leave a house to get income, jus apply on linkedin or indeed for virtual jobs. my partner jus did this and heard back from ovr 6 applications in an hour, tell that neet fag u'll fuckin rear-naked choke they ass unless they apply now!!! aint nobody entitled to no shit w/out payin they respects, or doin the work to entitile them to it that their body enables. i understand w/ ur momz and ur sister that it can be tough, but me and my brothers all got cerebraly palsy, and one of us cant even walk w/out a limp, and we still got jobs, so this fag gotta stfu and contribute in ur fam.
>I genuinely no longer know what to do and literally think about going to commit die everyday. It's just too much for me, and then on top of it all I know I'm never going to meet anyone and I'll have spent my entire life living a lonely life with my broken family.nah fuck that, ion believe it, ur fam's jus weighin u down so u cant meet anyone. i can tell from ur post that ur a real sweet guy of good character. any femoid wants that, and if ur still worried, jus go fatter lol. u got this dude, and ur not alone, we're here for u.
>>12927Make it a gif or a MP4 with sound
>>12911Exaggeration.
>>12912Projection.
Even early midde aged people complain about "hebecentrism" in dating.
At least the women.
>>12932Hard agree. You cannot have it both ways.
People want a monogamous relationship with a checkered past. I aint down with that.
It aint just sluttiness eother. Alot of druggies, criminals, or super slobs think romantic love is their redemption license.
>>12933Is she a tradthot?
Usually PragerU/John Birch type conservatives usually arent well read on politics.
Theyre also covert clients of LGBT escorts.
>>12940This is why single men have the last laugh.
>>12939>mfw living on the feeding of lies>>12945>You cannot have it both ways.Disagree. You can, but I don't want to fucking hear about how many dicks you've sucked or how much you hate your ex. As autistic as it is I'll try
>>12940 next time it comes up because it really pisses me off, especially hearing about high school romances as someone who was alone through college and has been bombarded with decades of teen love propaganda by hollywood porkies.
>>12960>>12961Learn to wield the knife.
Grasp it in your hands and twist. When you feel the blood on your skin, you will know you are alive.
Not to sound like a weird incel but whenever I hear my female friends talk about men they find hot it's always roughly the same people and archetype, while whenever I hear my male friends talkig about women it's much more diverse in race, shape, height, and face. It also saddens me that I will never be brought up as attractive by third parties in this sort of conversation even though I'm not that bad myself, while I've seen all of my female friends acquaintances be desired by some man in a conversation not involving them, out if their own admission. I just feel like the bar is way, way higher for men and there's not much more I can do: I'm very hygienic, I dress well, I'm thin (could be muscular I guess), I do skincare. I asked a female friend for advice on why I'm so repulsive to women and she told me I don't appeal to the female desire and brought up the main dude from Pride & Prejudice from, what I've read on summaries, is some dick aristocrat who later in the story becomes less of a dick towards the protagonist. I still don't know what she meant.
>>12948>You can have your cake amd eat it too
>I dont wanna hear your teenage experiences of love because I never had anyCognitive dissonance much?
People will always compare you to previous partners. If you dont wanna deal with this get a loveless sexless girl.
>>12947Its so sad that most people are too dumb/weak to appreciate singlehood.
People in relationships areoften bored and have little free time for hobbies.
They hav to sneak around for excitement.
If youre single know that youre blessed.
>>12903>>12902>>12904>>12905It hurts so goddamn bad. I haven't felt pain like this since one of my dogs died unexpectedly a decade ago.
I had a difficult relationship with my older brother that deteriorated over the last few years. He's the one that introduced me to imageboards for better or for worse and while we have our disagreements we were super close growing up. I will never forget buttboarding on a storage tote lid down the apartment stairs as a toddler. He changed in his mid 20's and became a lot colder and meaner to me and I never really knew why.
He's been hinting at moving out for a while now but the speed that this has happened with has hit me super hard. Now it's all on me to keep this mess together. I'm lonely. I'm really, really going to miss him in spite of it all, and the way my family dynamic is I'm probably not really going to see him again if rarely. I wish things had been different.
There's only one person in the whole damn world I can send a text message of Apu singing to and get an even more hilarious, obscure imageboard meme back in response. I hate life. I hate living. Why did it all have to turn out to be so painful? I hate capitalism too: my dad is just getting so old and worn out and he's all we have left…if I don't get my shit together when he dies my family will be homeless - it's all too much for me to bear FUCK
>>12927fat women don't really actually fuck they just talk about it. that being said I feel called out having gone a little over my weightclass because I fell for a really cute profile pic
how do I atone bros Zyzz just shakes his head and closes my mental image when I try to remote-view him now
>>12985oh don't worry I wasn't serious about thinking that was cool just picture the sunglasses emoji over crying wojak
you know what it's actually only 20min after i get off work, i told them when i get off, and they just cancelled because of allergies yesterday so i don't even have to come up with an excuse. maybe i can be like, let's get dinner instead at 9.
gonna go do that now and finish cleaning instead of posting~~~
>>12927LMAO, whales are already under the Instagram disease, they would rather choose their dragon dildos than any attention-giving incel.
BBW fantasy is closed forever.
>>12989>BBW fantasy is closed forever.And women your age or older
>>12981 if you're over 30.
>>12999I think it's funny he believes the dildo is the threat to finding hamlove. The Funko Pops and media addiction are more competition than the GigaDildo + being able to pine after perfect guys. Does that make sense?
>>13000Yep, also you'd be surprised how many non-instagram using women you will find out there.
>>12988You're gonna think this a dumb meme but protein is extremely filling and very tough to digest, losing 30% of the calories in the process. For losing weight the key is a bit of complex carbs, then lots of b12, vitamin C, zinc, magnesium, fibers, potassium, and protein protein protein. Kills refeeding syndrome within like a day.
If you eat less, replacing the calories with protein and ensuring you don't lack micronutrients will make you feel better. Eating less of the same crap you usually do will make you feel like garbage. Good luck. I'm going to write up some key points from Leangains and other books which helped me lose weight then subsequently become enormous for you guys tomorrow before the weekend. I don't really think most people mean some of the upsetting things they say in this thread and it's self-effacing in some cases (otherwise I would abandon all hope for you all)
>>13006Fun fact, the app has an internal ELO system (yes, like chess, techbros love adding this to places it does not belong, like multiplayer fucking games) and that destroys your matchmaking level.
This is why I would rather just get banned from Linkedin for sexual harassment. I will never submit to the "Swipe"
>>13007>>13009I think the algo just pushes your account when it's new anyways. I just delete and make a new account.
>>13008A lot of those options are imaginary is what I'm saying.
>>13009at this point even tiktok seems like a better place to hook-up. you're competing with sex-addled male models on tinder, it's surreal lol
>>13010> A lot of those options are imaginary is what I'm saying.to some extent yes, like 90% of matches won't even respond, but unless you're a 50 year old recovering from severe burns, you probably can find a date in a couple of hours if you're a girl
>>13011I didn't want to say Tiktok because it just makes me sound like a pedophile, but yes actually putting my face out locally has been insane, this is the first time I can post my deadpan sarcasm online and turns out people still like it especially since the people on there are really Epic.
Tiktok and Reddit and literal Twitter are the only places I have hooked up with anyone (other than community dodgeball and basketball) in like two years.
this is honestly what comes to mind when you say hamplanet
>>13014lowkey titkok has turned zoomers and millenials into very online types, it's ripe with opportunity.
>>13026Lol'd
>>13028Oh I didn't realise there was a place to post writing. It's here
>>12993 >>13035>the world is very effcient at letting you know what you look like.lolwut
A lot of parties have a vested interest in feeding your insecurities and making you delusional about your appearance.
>>13000>fat chicks either are NOT on insta They totally are in thirdie countries.
>or are insanely insecure and body positivity rhetoric is total cope, they're a push away from breaking down.Somewhat true, they're more likely to just get bitter and depressed than to break down altogether.
>>12958No, it's an effect of it being cut out of the photo
>>12957Actually I don't need to, I found it
>>13051Tech is one of the last industries that actually serves as a site for some new investment, rather than Chase just raking in 80% of its incomes from mortgages, so there is a need to manage their artificial reality with Metaverse crap like this rather than acknowledging control of communications cables and other telecoms internationally by companies like Meta and Google, these companies' preeminent position in the global economy (access to cheap labor and resources, Taiwan for foundry, India etc for testing and packaging and also as a market for walled-garden internet and biometrics/surveillance products from Google and Meta) & with first world investors, their relationship of patronage with our intelligence community.
In other words they just need some fake shit to talk about while they enjoy being part of a massive series of global ponzi schemes.
>>13051ANOTHER ONE
>what if there was a world where you upload a bunch of your text messages so we understand who you are>this is what AI will allow us to doReminder that a lot of apps require permission to access things like your messages.
Had two dreams about this female friend, and although I know she isn't dating anyone I know her pooldate include my superiors in my job.
:DDDDD
The second one was literally me just reclining my head on her legs and she patting and caressing it.
I'm fucked
>>12962I know it because I cut with the blender today while cleaning it
>>12988Buy some kettlebells and become Zangief
>>13051Monsieur guillotin for all of them, summary ends for all techporkies
>>13068It probably fell off post-pandemic, online is only getting more popular.
>>13065You must see a lot of moronic npcs
>>13072If you do "research" on women you've already gone majorly wrong somewhere.
>>13066Bingo
>>13074Evil resides in the very gaze that perceives evil all around itself
people say that sex is a basic need because human reproduction is a basic need. My question is: Why is it necessary for the species to consider living on? Someone might say, well they must continue living on or else they will die out, but I do not feel that that fully addresses the extent of my question. I suppose humans inherently have survival instincts and are afraid to die, but again, that answer still does not satisfy me. Does it really matter if there are humans or no humans? I guess, in my idea, it doesn't really matter. Value is a human-created concept. Our world is perceived within the extent of the bounds of our minds, which is fickle and fragile. Therefore, value does not exist outside of the human mind. As such, it means nothing whether the humans species lives on or not. My ideas may not be fully accurate, but I am curious to hear the perspectives of other lainons on this topic.
>>13088Love is not a basic need either.
>>13087People here are generally not very bright and you shouldn't take their opinions seriously.
>>13089Theyre not unbright.
Theyre just shallow and entitled.
But youre wrong about love not being a basic need.
I dont mean romantic love but fraternal love.
>>13014>tiktok>pedophileTikTok isnt just teens you know.
>>12894Thats a dick move.
>>13082Most people are too weak to understand this.
>>13085>Value is a human-created concept. Our world is perceived within the extent of the bounds of our minds, which is fickle and fragile. Therefore, value does not exist outside of the human mind. As such, it means nothing whether the humans species lives on or not. My ideas may not be fully accurate, but I am curious to hear the perspectives of other lainons on this topic.Value isnt inherently anthropocentric.
But humans do hijack the realm of value.
Met up with really bad vibes but hot Indian swinger mom have not been coerced into some kind of weird porn thing yet. However I didn't sleep and I feel really stoned. Maybe I should shower an extra three times before I go bond with my family.
>>13088This isn't great reasoning. Sex is an incentive-reward system. Love is closer to security in terms of being an actual survival drive, nobody's ever really survived on their own as a human.
>>13072God, I hope not.
>>13094Its a peculiar joke but its also disheartening. Hes not ugly.
Hes plain looking.
And he seems to be more blending in the background.
maybe a lot of men haven't experienced this, because they don't approach women in person, but only approach online…but if they do decide to approach women in person, what you are saying is true–"the community" does rise up to take you down, and it feels as though you are going to be murdered.
I've done this before, and very quickly, other people come out to stop you. It will probably be a security guard if you are at an indoor mall, or it could be the manager of a supermarket, etc.
The main thing is that the people who come to you to ask you to leave the premises, or otherwise…act as though you are a dangerous individual, similar to a terrorist.
It's crazy because everyone has a reproductive system. Every person was created through sexual intercourse, through the expression of sexual desire.
Yet people act as though having sexual desires is wrong.
Even if you talk to females for too long, and in a non-sexual, non-threatening way, they will call somebody to remove you.
For some reason, it is socially unacceptable in the United States to approach people in person who you don't know. You can only do that in bars and clubs, in Las Vegas, etc. But even if you approach females on the streets in Vegas, even on the Las Vegas Strip, they aren't open to it. You at least have to be in a casino. They perceive all men on the streets as dangerous, for some reason.
And you have to be in a group of people also. They don't want to meet a man by himself. Only if you are with at least one other person do they have a chance of being interested.
They probably perceive any man who is by himself as a crazy person, like a schizophrenic person, a drug addict, homeless, etc.
But yeah, people will really gang up on you and indirectly threaten you. They will make you feel like they are going to beat you up if you continue to approach females in the area, or they actually will say they will beat you up. You may feel afraid for your life…which will cause you to stop (because you actually will believe that you are going to be attacked physically and seriously harmed).
It's insane because when was anyone taught that approaching females in public was wrong? I guess normies know that it's wrong, and due to the fact that normies do what is normal and popular, they confidently assert themselves, acting as though you have committed a serious violation, and acting as though everyone knows that talking to strangers is wrong. If something is out of the norm, then normies are highly against it, as though it is illegal.
There have been many dating coaches who say things like, "Always talk to strangers," like David Wygant's book title. He used to teach that you could meet women anywhere. When I tried that, the police were called extremely quickly.
And you can't approach women in a happy way…you can't be at ease and just approach women in a calm, relaxed way…they will interpret what you are doing as highly inappropriate, annoying, threatening, etc.
There will be many white knights who will appear out of nowhere to give you a hard time, if the police don't show up first.
The police will treat you rudely and may shout at you to leave the area before you understand what is happening.
A female may lie that you pulled a weapon on her…so when the police show up, they will detain you and search you.
The main thing is, people respond extremely negatively in response to a man who is doing what is natural and normal, which is making progress toward successful sexual reproduction, but for some reason, people don't appreciate it, don't understand it, it's like it is a totally foreign concept to them. It's like they are totally asexual and have no interest in sex.
It's unbelievable.
But the good news is that females from other countries act way different. And if you go abroad, it's totally different. Women actually will approach you, smile at you, be happy to talk to you, desire to date you, enjoy your company, etc.
I still don't understand why American women and the American people don't embrace a man going out and approaching women in public. And it doesn't matter if you are good looking either, by the way. If you are by yourself, they will be afraid of you.
But whatever. That's the truth. That's what is happening. That's what is. The American people hate talking to strangers.
>>13098>Yet people act as though having sexual desires is wrong.The correct take is
it's wrong for some people to have sexual desires.
The rest of your post is the logical outcome of "sex is power" brainrot - if you're an undesirable nobody, you're automatically vetoed from sex.
>>13099>>13100>>13101>>13102>>13103>>13108>>13104>>13105Why does the Anglosphere has so many White Knights?
understand women are a privileged class here in Anglosphere countries and you are correct in that women are placed higher than men. This is not just true in the social/cultural dynamic but also in the legal dynamic where women have more rights and opportunities than men. Furthermore, you have the intense propaganda that tells you that women are better than men but also in the past men oppressed women and therefore men have to take a step back and allow women to lead. (We see how well this is going don't we?) Of course, the feminists tell the women that they are just as tough and strong as the men are but if you have to try to convince others of that maybe you really aren't so tough and strong as you think. You have multiple generations of men who have acquiesed to women and now it has become ingrained in the society across the board. The average person refuses to question this so as not to be labeled misogynistic or a nazi or alt-right or whatever buzzword is out there in the moment. The women in the Anglosphere are now so privileged that they dare not question their position either and they won't because of the privileges they have been afforded whether they actively realize it or not, many of them subconsciously cannot dare question it because it is all they have known their entire lives and so they likely wouldn't know any other position in society. In reality, equality is a ruse even though theoretically it is supposed to benefit everyone but all that it does is build your society on a foundation of sand so that one day it will inevitably collapse and we are approaching that day.
>>13110hahahaha
sucks to be you
tl;dr
>>13114No, and I never have for anyone.
A relationship is what I'm getting out of it now.
>>13117no method is foolproof. even with guns, there's a chance of the bullet only damaging parts of your brain that will make you retarded if they stop working, or that the shotgun pellets will blow off your face/jaw.
the best method is to stack as many things as you can to increase the odds of death. like, overdose on pills, then use the exit bag or hang yourself or jump off something high. that being said I dont know what options you have available to you.
incels put too much stock on romantic relationships i feel, like they're nice, but also like even good relationships require walking on eggshells a lil bit, learning to correspond is hard, and craving being corresponded just puts a good portion of your mental wellbeing at the whims of someone else. maybe it's just neoliberal individualism that has rotted my mind but it's kinda nice to be by yourself, to not have your own happiness poured into someone else. sometimes i could just choose to treat myself real nice and be happy for once, since you only depend on yourself, money is not tight. you can disappear for weeks on end on some remote beach. hell, even if you're a broke hikkikomori incel, you can just play video games and watch movies all day long. spend hours hunting for obscure shit to pirate. like if you seize being single, the sense of freedom you can get out of it is as intoxicating as any relationship, and you kinda can't do that on any relationship that is remotely serious. i guess it's just a grass being greener thing.
>>13125cont
I notice that Anglo culture is very hierarchal when it comes to male hierarchy while being egalitarian to the extreme when it comes to the female hierarchy. In the Anglo world, all women are queens. You can't deem a woman to be inferior to other women for any reason… Whether its because she's fat, because she lacks femininity, because she's vulgar, or even because she is slutty.
When it comes to men, however, Anglo culture absolutely shits on low and medium status men. High status men, on the other hand, are virtually immune from criticism the same as women are. Actual high status men by the way, not what woke idiots think is "high status."
Asian society tends to be fairly egalitarian when it comes to the distinction between average and high status men. But Asian society can be similarly brutal towards low status men. Then again, the standards for what makes you low status in Asian society are very different from what makes you low status in the Anglosphere.
Actually, every society tends to be pretty brutal towards low status men. But Anglo society stands out from the others in that it treats average status men almost as brutally as it treats low status men. The distinction between low status and average status is much thinner in Anglo society for men then it is in other cultures. I would probably be considered an average status guy by Anglo standards but I feel much more sympathy for and relate to low status men much more then I relate to high status men. I feel like most of the men in Anglo society who have high status don't really deserve it to be honest.
What really makes Anglo society a hell for men though is how women simply aren't expected to obey any social norms whatsoever. No matter what a woman does, its always some man's fault. Society bends over backwards to solve any problem that any woman might have but no matter what the problem is for men, its simply "man up you loser!"
Asian men love taking care of women but in Asian society, women at least have to prove themselves worthy of being taken care of. In Anglo society on the other hand, men are expected to take care of women for nothing in return whatsoever and without any standards for proving themselves worthy of this treatment. Anglo women expect to be taken care of by men they aren't even married to or have shown loyalty towards.
White women will still in most instances, choose a white guy on social benefits over a non-white guy who's responsible and have a decently well paid upper middle class job. If you want to add a non-white multi-millionaire to the equation, then the situation will more likely turn out to be this: The white woman will let the rich non-white guy shag her while taking financial benefits from him. Meanwhile she maintains a secret white boyfriend with no-job and he will be 'alpha as f**k bad boy' :roll: Of course, you can get any girl, white or not, if you are truly rich. There is also a chance that she will be loyal to you, but the risk is there. I am just stating the obvious.
Role reversal? Probably.
Most desperate Asian men (those live in western countries) dream of that day when the role 'reverses'. They dream of having the same privileges as whites. I can tell you this is clueless thinking. The way the Chinese system and white privelege works is a bit different. The Chinese technique goes back thousands of years, and it pretty much remains static except during certain periods. The Chinese way is mainly Confucian, and it is about inclusiveness. This is why you see one billion Chinese people. These are not organic growth of the original people from the time when Yellow Emperor started the Chinese civilization. Other people in the surrounding and nearby lands were simply added due to Chinese influence. In other words, they were turned into Chinese over a number of generations. You might have heard of the many recurring wars the ancient Chinese had. But most people didn't realize what happened after these wars were over. The victororious kingdom reassigned the surnames of the people in the defeated kingdom, and there was also marriage quotas such as the one legally enforced to ensure certain foreign merchants (eg Persians) marry local Chinese, etc. Imagine the whites didn't enslave the blacks, and the blacks come to work in America as free men, and legally enforced to marry nice little white girls. OMG!!!
Back to topic, many simply become the Han Chinese. Korean is also classified as Chinese (don't believe me look it up). The Japanese were also Chinese but booted out after atrocities during world war 2. Some prefer a lesser Han identity but still remains Chinese. Kaifeng jews is one of the hundreds of examples. If the Chinese acts like the Anglos, they will launch a lot of genocidal sprees against a lot of other people, instead of including them in their society. This is why you don't see the black vs white scenario throughout Chinese ancient history. Occasionally fringe groups got genocidal, but it never lasted long. The time when the Chinese lost their supremacy started when they think they as a race is too awesome, so they stopped being more inclusive. They started building walls because everyone else is a 'barbarian'. It's like much of the western world now. It can only go down from there. But don't expect white girls falling on Asian guys en masse. There will be a long time of white strife before they finally wake up, just like the Chinese suffered in the past, unless they learn from history. But people never learn.
Thanks for reading my long post :wink:
>>13122>incels put too much stock on romantic relationshipsoh you think? lol
>like they're nice, but also like even good relationships require walking on eggshells a lil bitthey shouldn't. obviously you have to have communication skills but not "eggshells." the normalization of shitty relationships is a big part of the general problem here. people need to relearn how to communicate and how to listen (including listen to themselves lol).
>learning to correspond is hard, and craving being corresponded just puts a good portion of your mental wellbeing at the whims of someone else. maybe it's just neoliberal individualism that has rotted my mind but it's kinda nice to be by yourself, to not have your own happiness poured into someone else.you can have time for yourself in a healthy relationship and both parties should actively resist becoming joined at the hip. you should cultivate parts of yourself that are outside the relationship so that you can actually bring things into it from outside, as well.
>sometimes i could just choose to treat myself real nice and be happy for once, since you only depend on yourself, money is not tight.money should be less tight with two people earning and sharing some of the costs, including trading off things like who takes care of dinner.
>you can disappear for weeks on end on some remote beach. hell, even if you're a broke hikkikomori incel, you can just play video games and watch movies all day long.fair but you can do this or a smaller version within a relationship and if it's a good relationship, then being with the other person can still feel like this. a lot of people in relationships will just do their own thing "by themselves" but still in the same room.
>like if you seize being single, the sense of freedom you can get out of it is as intoxicating as any relationship, and you kinda can't do that on any relationship that is remotely serious.Sounds like a personal preference tbh. There's tradeoffs of course, but there are also people who prefer a FWB situation or something else in-between that lets you get a different combination of benefits and drawbacks.
>i guess it's just a grass being greener thing.yes and no, some people are just happier one way or another, or only like being one way for some time before wanting to switch. it's pretty complicated.
My observation has been that only in the Anglo-Societies there's a clear misandry against straight men. Anything a man does can be interpreted as weird, creepy, "gross" or "try hard" as Italian thinker Evola said, it seems that in Anglo societies men and women have a very poor relationship. There's low tolerance for sex. Anyone wanting to have sex, especially men are seen as weirdos. It wrong to like sex or want it.
Meanwhile, homosexuals and homosexuality is readily accepted and even encouraged. To many people around the world this might seen bizarre. Why is it that former deeply religious people as soon as they stopped being religious turn to homosexuality as their way of "liberalism" ? I remember an interview with a ex-lesbian from the Midwest who said she was deeply religious, but hated men. As soon as she stopped being religious she then turned to homosexuality as her 'outlet." However, as soon as once she found "religion again" she left the homosexual community. In my opinion in the Anglo world people identify with others of their same sex much more than with those of the opposite sex.
Many Anglo's who I talked to always assume that "Sexual Liberalism=Homosexuality." For instance, a friend found it bizarre when I showed him a movie of a guy who hooks up with multiple women. Yet there's ZERO homosexual content nor homosexual acts. Hence, he was puzzled. In fact, there's some cultures where it means men having affairs with multiple women and being players and some visiting brothels. It doesn't carry the same "homosexual connotation" in the Anglo-Cultures.
As some thinker say it seems homosexuals, minorities are "voting blocks" and "political agents" for the left around the world and especially in America and the Anglosphere.
The desexualization of homosexuals and the creation of the 'homosexual identity' was the way that gay marriage was legalized. I remember, that left wing politicians sold it as "love" between two people of the same sex. They completely downplayed the sexual element. Similarly when an Anglo married Pocahotas he also did it with "Love" as the justification as opposed to sex. 'Lust" is always bad in the Anglo societies.
>>13138Obviously today society has become much more secular and sexual liberalism is now promoted on the surface but what has really happened is that those same puritan-inspired ideas concerning winners and losers and sexual access being reserved only for the worthiest and most economically productive men continue to be practiced in a secularized form. Because of this vestige of the old Anglo puritan mindset Anglo women still hold onto the same notion of most men not being worthy enough for them, that men have to work hard for their approval and to get the "prize", that ordinary men who don't fulfill society's high standards of what it means to be a winner are "creeps" (very puritan indeed) and should remain sexless, etc. This is all the same shit.
I perceive "sexual liberation" in the Anglosphere more as a feminist talking point. What is usually meant by sexual liberation is that women should be allowed to slut around as much as they like with high-tier males without judgment or social consequences. But what about ordinary guys? There's no inclusion of them in this concept; rather the same old puritan-inspired mindset of ordinary guys as creeps and servants who must make a great deal of sacrifice in order to be considered worthy of sex with the liberated and independent modern woman still applies. Indeed, Anglo feminism itself has always been extremely puritanical with regard to male sexuality. It has always promoted sluttiness and unbridled sexuality for women and sexlessness and sexual shaming for men. Feminism is just another layer on top of the original anti-male puritanism of yesteryear.
Outcast, it is nothing like this in non-Protestant societies such as Southern Europe and Latin America. In those regions, which have incidentally received the same sexual liberalism that we have, there is no desire to create a male underclass considered unworthy of sexual access nor is there any widespread movement to demonize male sexuality or disenfranchise men from dating. Men are rarely shamed for our sexual interest in women. Flirting is considered normal. You can tell a girl that you think that she's hot without being shamed or called a creep. Moreover, prostitution is socially acceptable. Paying for sex is seen as men taking care of our natural needs and not as something dirty or for losers. It is much easier for men to get sex in these cultures. Not even feminists are hellbent on opposing male sexuality.
The Anglosphere is totally rotten for men precisely because of this vestigial puritan-inspired mindset which today has become mixed with feminism and ideas of (female) sexual liberation.
Even if I met and got to date a leftist girl, it'd be a Trotskyist sex worker who posts nudes online to advertise her OnlyFans and has a bodycount before me. She'd be
Nerdy
Probably a weaboo (enough to visit and apparently live in Japan), seems to be fan of (or referenced) Reincarnated As A Slime, Death Note, Fate/Stay
Owns kunai (Japanese knives) and showed it off in nude post
Watched the 2022 Batman film, familiar enough with his rogue gallery to speculate about sequel villains. Was disappointed in Batman Ninja (anime Batman film made by Japanese)
Made a Pokemon reference
Played DnD, enough to prefer a class.
Gamer? Plays Diablo IV
Sex work
actively does (online?) sex work, has an OnlyFans, Cash App, ManyVids, maybe more.
Posts her nudes online.
Sex work (OF daily content?) seems to be mainly solo (nudes, masturbation, dildos, plugs?) but have also included penetration by other men (unsure how often)
May be a cam girl
Claims to be kink fetish friendly, claims to love lingerie, claims to be horny 24/7
Has tattoos
Does cosplay, including maid, Harley Quinn, sailor uniform, school girl
Asked online for tips on using a strapon on a partner
Claims to procrastinate by masturbating, but also thinks it's okay because she does it for a living
Once spontaneously flew out to Tokyo for less than 48 hours on a whim to visit a guy and have fancy dinner (How could she afford this? Sex work pays that much? Sugar daddy?)
Seems to have visited and live in Japan for some period of time (recently made forum post asking about Japanese internet, is studying Japanese, familiar enough with certain Japanese places to know which restaurants and shopping places to visit).
Claims to work from home (online sex work?)
In April 2022, claimed to start moving 4000-6000 miles away from home, begged for OnlyFans 'love' to relieve stress
Answered a now-deleted question where her answer was: friend/acquaintance first, then intelligence+humor (getting into pants? attraction?)
She calls herself slut in one of her usernames, as well as personal posts calling herself slut or whore. At least two posts have her begging to be degraded for sexual purposes by strangers' comments online and she also replied to them to play along. Posted a picture with the words "dumb slave" written with a marker below her bare breasts.
Had sex with a man, allegedly for hours, and he, like her, has an OnlyFans. Both posted pictures and clips of them together online for everyone to see, she said that no one does it like him, revealed she was sore for a couple of days, and also invited him to stretch her out anytime.
Had anal sex with well-endowed man but had little practice on her part, implying she needed time to recover after that.
Had a spitroast threesome, with two men she called 'strangers' and 'new friends' which implies she didn't know them for very long.
Is into BDSM, seemingly as a submissive. May be into getting spanked/whipped as she was seen with red bruise marks on her butt and thighs, and also presumably into getting tied up (as seen in nude posts).
Apparently got ghosted by one of her dominants (BDSM relationship) before.
Had, in her words, "great recurring" and eventually hyper-realistic sexual dreams about her polisci professor, which in her words made class "more interesting". (Was the polisci professor a Trotskyist or something else leftist?)
Claimed to have flashed her breasts at one of her teachers who then had to cancel the rest of the lecture.
Claims to have gotten aroused sitting through a lecture on the Platonic dialogues.
Politics
She identifies as communist, Marxist, Trotskyist, and so despises Stalin as dirtying the word communism and as not real communism. Claims to subscribe to historical materialism and the materialist conception of history, meaning she studies "the fuck" out of historical events and lays them in proper context.
Replied to questions in communist/political forums and lengthy reply explaining why she supports communism to anti-communist detractors. Besides posting about communism, also posted about US history such as a leftist take on Ulysses S. Grant.
Posted in forum for 'IATSE: the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees', which revolves around trade unionism and the performing arts. (Meaning she may be involved in the performing arts?)
Recommmended Kollontai's 1921 work titled 'Sexual Relations and the Class Struggle' when the topic of marriage and private property came up. She is a communist sex worker who refers to Kollontai, even though Kollontai said that "Prostitution destroys the equality, solidarity and comradeship of the two halves of the working class."
Accused the communist Reddit forum mods that banned her to be closet libs on a power trip that also read ten too many books on identity politics.
Was studying for finals in May 2020
Apparently does graduate research at a university.
And I couldn't do anything about being uncomfortable with her line of work because it'd be misogynistic and patriarchal. I would become Adam22 because she'd film porn with men that are not me, men that I can't compete with. She might even brag about it online and then tell me it's just work.
>>13152It's a pyramid scheme that ranges from stripping to being an e-madam. If you don't think that's part of the prostitution industry, you've completely lost the plot and become a porn-brained chan lunatic.
Just because there are a few women who make it to the top of a multilevel marketing scheme doesn't mean the scheme isn't based on bargaining down consent, and in fact makes it far easier for people to start getting used to having their consent bargained away at a less extreme level, to get them into it.
After all, isn't all sex based on bargaining away or subverting consent via manipulation anon? Go on, tell us. Tell us how Alexandra Kollontai never considered strippers. I'm all ears, I am at work and just printing shit out AI sent back to us all day today.
I didn't even mention how these e-madams and hotwife idiots provide cover for a human trafficking network.
Surely nobody would ever lock women in a room and rape them en masse for profit, you surely think, despite having spent plenty of time in the past few years complaining about Andrew Tate.
You sex work-positive eurocommunist first world only feminists are just as delusional as Haz, thinking all hookers are petit boug like PLUMBERS. I find you people quite disrespectful but I'm glad I never encounter you in the flesh, and never will.
>>13153>You sex work-positive eurocommunist first world only feministsbuzzword buzzword buzzword.
Its a job. In ideal world it wouldnt exist, but it does, empty moralizing doesnt help sexworkers or trafficking victims.
>>13161anti-idpol rule. article 3 subsection 7.
>>13162Ok, maybe I should have said 'no discussion of the ethics of sex work', it will still derail the topic and people won't be able to resist arguing against it.
>>13163>anti-idpol rule. article 3 subsection 7.Since when has someone's income stream been classed as idpol? You do realize they can just switch jobs, they weren't born to be prostitutes? This is the most retarded thing I have read on here in a while, and of course it comes from a janny.
If I said "techbros are a bunch of overpaid losers" would that also be idpol? I want to see how consistent you're going to be with this new interpretation of the rules.
>>13157>buzzwordBuddy the only one who is using buzzwords here is you using "sex work", an insidious phrase which has even wormed its way into UN institutions tasked with handling child rape. They started calling them "child sex workers" in many of these intitiatives. You're unwittingly in league with people normalizing pedophilia because of your love for the new pron trends and buzzwords LOL!
Retard, sorry you are triggered by examples of people who agree with this and implement instead of engage in idealist babble to justify their masturbation habits online, LOL. In Belgium pimps are able to reprimand women who refuse 10 men per six months. In Germany most of the hookers have back problems and raw holes, the johns complain about it on the forums online.
Even the Nordic model, which is weaksauce compared to what every communist group in history has approached the issue with, is better than "just legalize it lol it's normal stop being weird it's easy they like it lol, ignore how it only appears in concert with precarity, look at my examples of winners in multilevel marketing schemes"
>>13186>One of the vets at the front desk was really cute, kind of a mousy type with glasses, I was just checking in for a booking and she was all bubbly and giggly. It was infectious and I found myself smiling and giggling with her.Incels aren't allowed to do that. You're not supposed to communicate with women in a flirtatious manner, and you know that. She should have reported you for sexual harassment.
Anyway you broke the rules and are now suffering the consequences. I hope your dog is okay.
>>13186>I don't think anyone was ever built for this kind of lifeLmao, good luck.
There's three men for each girl on Tinder btw.
>>13187I know, I know
>>13188Regret implies a degree of control I think, I don't have any regrets but I definitely feel bad
>>13189Pretty much all my life I have been treated more or less like a background character. No one really had expressed any romantic interest in me, no one has really wanted me. I've watched friends who I've known for ages, who have a similar background to me, get in and out of long term relationships. I stressed over it for a while, as if there was some esoteric knowledge that I didn't have access to, until I realised that getting in a relationship is the most natural and simple thing that anyone can do. There's no use fighting against the tide
>>13165>>13162we are dealing with simps unfortunately.
>>13139>>13139>>13139>>13125Anglos are descended from Germanics.
They are the creators of chivalry and Protestantism.
They are the popularisers of eugenics and Nazism.
They hate emotional intimacy and male beauty.
>>13199>Idealism Not even once.
Idealism begets expectation
Expectation begets entitlement
Entitlement begets indignation
Indignation begets insurrection
Insurrection begets reformation
Reformation begets regression
Regression begets desperation
Desperation begts idealism
>>13201Blackpill is acceptance.
Redpill is coping and seething.
But anyway, are you ugly, fat, autistic, and broke?
If you arent or dont have experience with those whom are, I dont think your opinion is relevant.
>>12994Im not fantasizing for a virginal waifu.
Im saying that
>>12948 is fantasizing about wanting a sexually experienced woman who wont compare him to previous partners.
If theres one thing that church was right about, it's that having sex with more than one person is like constantly reapplying wood glue to the same wood block
>>13208tbh feelings do more damage than sexual intercourse.
You can "cheat" on someone without sex or kissing.
>>13209Are you sure about that.
It is the one very few things church is right about.
And if you follow my posts, I look down on Protestantism as motivational seminar bullshit for midlife crisis patrons.
We invited our current bull, Benjamin II, to swing by this past Sunday for an afternoon romp between the sheets. Things have escalated quickly and what was supposed to be a once a month to every six weeks engagement has been renegotiated. Barring any schedule quirks, starting next weekend we'll be hosting Benjamin on a regular basis, having him over for "Sunday dinners".
The frequency is a little much for me—I always imagined the perfect pacing would be what I mentioned above—that way we could settle into our own dynamic and just as I was getting comfortable there would be an intense night that would shake my world at its foundation. My wife who's the boss in the bedroom (in just about every imaginable way) has different ideas though and deftly pointed out that since we're fluid bonded with Benjamin we should keep him happy and satisfied and off of the market. Makes sense.
What's nice for me is Benjamin showed on Sunday that he's quite comfortable with some M/m action. That's great for everyone involved. My wife kinks hard watching me at the end of a dick, Benjamin gets serviced, and I get used. Pretty sweet deal.
Before this weekend there had been plenty of talk but no action when it came to the two of us getting it on. My wife wanted to build things up between us so she could savor the anticipation. Saturday night she informed us both that the next day we would be breaking the ice—and so we did.
Standard playbook for me is to fluff and clean up, which I did for our first bull, so I wasn't a bit surprised when my wife started things off by having me get on my knees. Benjamin's cock was rock hard though and standing at full attention—he needed fluffing like Florida needs mosquitoes—but that didn't deter me. I took him in my mouth and started lavishing some tongue love on his beautiful cock head when I felt my wife's hand on my shoulder.
"Stop. I want to get him wet him for you."
So she walks over to the bed, sits on the edge, lays back, pulls her feet up and jackknifes her knees open. Benjamin has already ditched me, and he's on her in a New York minute and starts pumping away. After about 30 seconds my wife props herself up and pulls Benjamin's mouth down to hers. After a long deep kiss she whispers something. He stops, pulls out and walks over to me. His cock is dripping with my wife. He's wet from tip to balls.
"Clean him up, baby. Be gentle. I want him to last for me."
*Now* I have something to do. After I gently suck his cock and relieve him of my wife's deposit, I start giving Benjamin some attention on the base of his shaft on my way down to his balls. He's groomed just the way my wife wants—shaved shaft, balls and perineum, hair up top trimmed short (but not too short). I notice while I'm down there though that he has some stubble on the base of his shaft on the left side—and when I pause and look closer I see a couple of centimeter long hairs hanging tight to his scrotum. I tap his stubble with a finger, "Looks like you missed a spot."
Benjamin looks down pulls his dick to the side and says, "I guess so." And then without thinking I say, "I can take care of that for you."
Before anyone says anything I'm on my feet and in the bathroom. Seconds later I'm back on my knees in front of Benjamin, I've dabbed a tiny amount of shaving cream on him, and I delicately tidy him up with a razor. Just as I finished wiping him clean with a damp washrag my wife appears at his side. Her pussy is a torrent. It's dripping long strings of fluid. I know she kinks hard watching me service a guy but I've *never* seen her so wet. I lean over to bury my face in her when I feel her hand on my head holding me back. In a throaty voice she gasps, "No. *Him*."
Three hours later Benjamin finally leaves after my wife drains him four times. She's insatiable. The front door has barely clicked shut when she tells me to take a shower and prep for pegging. A half hour later she's spooning me with her cock buried in my ass. She's planting kisses on my neck and whispering in my ear, telling me that she loves me and that I'm an amazing husband. She calls me, "my beautiful cuck" and says that watching me "make him perfect down there for me was the hottest thing I've ever seen." And then she tells me the brief conversation she had with Benjamin at the front door right before he left was her telling him to stop shaving and trimming—"because you're going to be doing that for him from now on."
Here is a problem, maybe someone can relate to this one. The computer god hijacks my serotonin and dopamine systems daily. It is generally less than thirty minutes before I turn on a goddamn computer or television, grab my phone and look on social media while I push out enough fucking logs to build a lincoln log cabin that would make any woodsman proud.
I feel like my sympathetic nervous system has become entwined with the computer god and has given me the perception that in order to activate my ability to feel accomplished, I scroll for hours instead of digging a hole and planting some seeds. Hoping for the right dopamine or serotonin hit at the right time and mechanically scrolling until I feel rewarded.
One finger practically runs my life, my mind is entering some type of symbiosis with an experience that only exists if there is sound infrastructure for it, electricity and engaging content.
My desire for content has changed over the years, first there was ogirish, rotten, oron and other websites which shocked my young mind to points where I dont think I would have ever gone and probably had no need to venture into. The experiences showed me a world of dysfunction and sometimes humor in that dysfunction, sometimes excitement but generally tragedy and painful human experiences. Going into chat rooms, shitpopsting, trolling and generally wasting my life.
I do think that those experiences led me to the place I am at today. Posting in this thread, trying to relate to others and sharing what feels like an isolating, confusing and sometimes emotionally damaging experience that is "the internet."
I hope that everyone who is having a hard time in life can remember that when a squirrel is trying to find it's next meal, it is solving a puzzle and playing it's way through life. It is rare that a squirrel faces anything other than a puzzle to be solved, a game to be played. It is figuring out it's way by playing. It is hard to look past the notion that playing your way through life makes it "just a game" but that's what you have to do. You can treat all of your problems as life threatening issues or you can treat them like puzzles. Watch out for that car!
>>13221Comparison of "you" vs. "them" is the thief of joy and you steal from yourself.
You must engage yourself to a point of self fulfillment without being in a relationship. You do not have to accomplish all of your goals, you must have them and be actively working towards them, which will fill you with pride.
You will gradually notice that you are engaging others with more confidence, which will make you a better partner and friend. This will most likely put you in more social contact with people and your probability of finding a mate will be much better, work your stats and be open to meeting new people and getting into new circles.
>>13222You're correct, anon. Thank you for you kindkness.
I'm currently in a situation where all I can do is wait. Wait to remove my braces, wait to see the results from the gym (which I joined this week), wait to save up enough to replace my Harry-Potter/Trotsky-ass glasses to something more stylish like picrel.
Unfortunately I have a retracted jaw which causes me sleep apnea and makes me hideous to look at from the side, and the surgery costs an absurd amount of money, but people always compliment my jaw for being wide and prominent so idk where that leaves me.
>>13224I would start by working on a sense of humor about your jaw, not surgery.
Everyone is flawed anono, some peoples are inherently dangerous. Try thinking about how in the long term that no one gives a shit about what your jaw looks like, it matters if whether or not you're an asshole or an open kind person.
Women like an interesting face, no bullshit. You stand out just like someone with a chiseled jaw, just differently. So people notice you, alot of people never have anyone look at them, say hi to a homeless person next time you see one and realize you're not that bad off friend.
>>13204I used to post about how every time I start a romantic relationship with someone, something wrong happens, either on my part or theirs, then vent but would give advice to random anons in the process, but bitter posters told me I was "humblebragging" so I stopped.
You reap what you sow.
>>13232>has the same exact vices as you, is just as deranged as youHow is this remotely desirable?
On a similar note everyone saying they want a "yandere" girlfriend has clearly never dealt with an actually psycho partner.
>>13234>How is this remotely desirable?Why would a successful girlboss date your sorry ass? If you don't make any effort, why should she? Get your shit together if you want to date someone better than your hand and the next door psycho.
>On a similar note everyone saying they want a "yandere" girlfriend has clearly never dealt with an actually psycho partner.I agree, but that's a path to personal growth. If you are a man, in most cases no physical harm will happen to you, it's only a bundle of headaches.
It's better to have an adventure with a crazy girl who will make you yearn for solitude than being a bitter incel shitting up imageboards for the end of times. Both of you are fucked up, try to make the best of it and turn this into mutual therapy organically.
>>13239>>13240Alright, then why does it bother you if people are simping for femcels? I'm bothered by incels always whining about how women are evil and terrible and cruel (they can be fr), and I assumed you are one of them because basically no one with a healthy relationship would post in this thread.
I don't understand what is your point either beside being a bitter faggot. When I was talking about "you", I'm addressing the typical incel imageboard poster, not (You) who flip out over nothing.
>>13231You say that dawg, but then there's women who shit on women for various reasons.
Like the internet mocking "pick my girls" – and while I haven't experienced them – people talk about them as if they're on edge of dropping a 10 paragraph rant on how much they suck.
>>13232Holy shit, shut up.
Especially with this shit:
>Your potential partner is just around the corner<What do you want, a Californian pornstar served on a plate?Pick a narative you fucking dipshit.
God, people talk about the problem with incels giving advice to other incels to "succeed", but people don't talk enough of the two face bullshit of those who never had to try in getting a girlfriend give advice.
Like look at this shit:
>>13234 - I don't want to date a femcel; mentally unstable woman
>>13236 - So you want to date *roll dice* instagram models? *checks dice again, it's on 6, not nine* Why would you want to date a girlboss?
>>13240Assuming you're not the other guy, some people post just to feel vindicated, not for tips.
It gets more interestingly ironic if that person is sexist and is doing that "only' women do.
>>13250Only on a technicality if they have a sitation where they cant interact with more people.
Otherwise, it can only get objectively better since:
more people = more chances of succeeding
>>13249>have hobbiesNo, only consuming expensive commodities.
>make friendsPossibly, higher density does put you around more likeminded people. Chicago is full of finance porky and their toadies however.
>>13220You are doing good, I think, nice post
>>13263You are like a little baby, watch this
My close friends, who are a couple, have at various times claimed: One has seriously suggested therapy to the other repeatedly (to which the other partner replied that they'd hook up with the therapist), the other one said "they (meaning their "better half") have psychological problems", one has claimed to beat the other, then another time to get beaten by said other, also I remember a discussion that took at least 30 minutes about various re-combinations of genitals (what if I had a pussy, what if they had a dick, would that be homo), there is a lot of other shit I won't even get into here. Anyway, great couple.
>>13106>app brain rotNo. Its just aesthetic brainrot in general.
Even before apps he would be wrongfully labelled as a creep.
>>13110Youre wrong.
Its not women.
Its prime age light-skinned females who do.
Women whom are thick, dress alternatively, dark-skinned, older, single parent, etc are seen as dalit.
>>13273I have to hand it to you, you've disgusted me.
I suppose the only question that matters is are you disgusted with yourself?
>>13287Protip: When women say what they like in a guy, they arent telling you what makes a guy attractive, but what they want in a man they already find attractive.
Also, Trevor got kneecapped by being forced to sit, would have better chance if she could see how tall he is.
>>13290Why would you talk to us instead of talking to women? There are no funny stories in this thread, no people talking about their failures and trying to make sense of what went wrong, it's all whining and "boohoo good looking women on TikTok have sex while I don't". Who fucking cares? It's boring as fuck.
Take a risk just once in your life. Next weekend, go to a bar, drink alcohol and start reacting to what some random person says, male or female, just like you do when you post here. Say something funny and roll with it. Then if it doesn't work, go to the next bar and see what's happen. The odds of dying while doing this are very low.
You are lonely, you are alienated, speaking to strangers is complicated, we all know. But fucking hell, this thread isn't about sex and relationships anymore, it's all about discouraging every one of us from making bonds with strangers. You can't have both the comfy spleen you feel within your gamer chair and the thrill of flirting with someone at the same time, you have to make a choice at some point.
>>13292>You can't just go and talk to random women if you are ugly, it makes them uncomfortable and want to get away from you. You can if you have a bit of charisma, if you learn how to talk well. Sometimes you look at politicians' wives, they are hot as fuck, and the guy looks like an absolute ghoul, it's because the guy's job is to talk well. You need to have social interactions to learn how to deal with people, to fail and learn, it's praxis.
>This is doubly true if you are remotely on the spectrum as well as being unattractive.Then cut your balls and become an eunuch for the Imperial Court of China instead of complaining, you might even cuck the emperor in the process.
>>13293>You can if you have a bit of charisma, if you learn how to talk wellCharisma mostly comes naturally rather than something that can be picked up.
>they are hot as fuck, and the guy looks like an absolute ghoul, it's because the guy's job is to talk wellNo it's because most politicians were bankers, lawyers or business owners before they entered politics. Women can look past bad looks if the guy has wealth or status. The most effective way to stop being an incel is to get rich.
>>13294>Charisma mostly comes naturally rather than something that can be picked up. I disagree. I was really shy when I was a teenager due to being bullied, but a variety of experiences made me more confident into what I am, less autistic and more funny. I'm not saying I'm very successful at relationships, but I lived intense things instead of only complaining online.
You can change, it's just that you don't want to change and prefer to wallow in your own misery. It's okay, we all do it at some point in our lives, but don't try to drag down people into your pit and tell them there is no escape.
>Women can look past bad looks if the guy has wealth or status.I know a really ugly guy, no chin, wearing glasses, strabismus. He work at a restaurant getting paid jack shit. His wife is PhD in biology, the most charming blonde girl you would see in your life, just the right amount of chubbiness, very smart and always interesting to talk to.
The thing is, this guy is funny and isn't afraid of interacting with the outside world. So no, you're simply wrong.
>>13298>You can change, it's just that you don't want to change and prefer to wallow in your own miseryI have changed and been trying to put myself outside of my comfort zone for years. The end result is that I'm more miserable and depressed than ever. You know nothing about me.
>but don't try to drag down people into your pit and tell them there is no escape.Your advice to that anon is terrible.
>I know a really ugly guy (…) you're simply wrongAnecdotal evidence. You also understand that your guy would probably get slaughtered in the modern day dating climate if he really is as ugly as you say he is?
>>13299>You know nothing about me. Of course I don't because this is an anonymous imageboard.
>I have changed and been trying to put myself outside of my comfort zone for years. The end result is that I'm more miserable and depressed than ever.Then become a Buddhist instead of whining. Nothing will change if you whine some more in this thread and post some incelfuel from reddit, you will just make the life of people around here seem more terrible than it really is.
>Your advice to that anon is terrible. Why? Maybe your inability to explain your opinions with substantiated words is the reason why you are so lonely and boring.
>Anecdotal evidence.Go back to reddit. Don't forget to seethe at r/FemaleDatingStrategy.
>You also understand that your guy would probably get slaughtered in the modern day dating climate if he really is as ugly as you say he is?They got together 10 years ago at most. Neoliberalism was still kicking as it does today.
>>13303Then this thread should be nuked since none of you are mature or immature enough to get into a relationship, as fleeting as it might be.
Since there is no sex happening and no relationships happening either, there is no point to this thread.
Don't forget to never ever take risk in your life. Be a good (unemployed) prole, never drink, never talk to strangers, never ask someone if they want to kissed, you might get the cooties. Monday is cagie day, look forward to it.
>>13308Sometimes girls do this, ghost you out of nowhere even though it seemed like everything was going fine. It's cruel and hard to endure.
Take solace into the fact you were desired by her for at least a moment. You will eventually get over her with time.
From your post, I can't tell if there is anything wrong with you, you seem alright, and remember everyone has their own behavioral issues. She probably has one too since she is evasive like this, but it's okay, it happens. Maybe she will text you back later, but it's better to not count on it too much and move on.
>>13291Talking on here is still more enjoyable than listening to some bimbo drone on about her major or whatever shitty music she likes. Nothing "thrilling" about them.
Also drinking is d3g3en_rate behavior. I hate alcoholics with a passion. I don't like drinking and I will never give in to this animal impulse.
>>13302>post about relationship problems>get called a humblebragger I'm in a pickle right now where I really care about my gf, but I cheated on her before I did and she found out. We're still together, but with very good reason she has no trust for me and is always blowing up my phone in the evening. I just want to chill but feel obligated to respond because if I don't she assumes I'm out on a date or some shit. I don't feel like our values are particularly compatible either, but I don't want to let her go. She's deeply Christian.
>>13308Move on, don't send her needy messages. Don't block her either, you never know. I've done this to girls in depressive moments then later came back to apologize to them because it's really shitty to ghost.
>>13316Yeah I think I'm just going to move.on, I sent a lot "needy" messages to her already. She might contact me, she might not. It is what it is. Ghosting is pretty shitty to do but people their reasons I guess.
>I don't feel like our values are particularly compatible either, but I don't want to let her go. She's deeply Christian.I feel like I'm the last person that should advice in this thread but I think you should let her go. If you cheated and your values aren't compatible. Do u u keep her around for security?
>>13291oh no haha
you can't say that
You'll upset the gamers
>>13291trvthnvke. Talking to women is more fun than hearing blackpill talking points regurgitated ad-nauseum. One tinder date told me about the sort of profiles she sees on there and it was kekworthy: someone had a Garfield Eats reference in their bio. "Love me, feed me, just don't leave me", she didn't get it. Another told me about her younger brother explaining blackpill to her. She showed me a photo and he looked handsome no homo just cooking his brain with incel bullshit.
>>13295>gain weightBad advice even for skeletons. Lean is life. Better to look like an anorexic dope fiend than skinnyfat.
>>13210absolutely true, the term would be "emotional cheating"
and its happened to me :/
when someone sets up an unhealthy dynamic, the type where they become the only friend, best friend, to someone who is socially isolated and provide them constant comfort and nurture them, if it does not include you and perhaps even becomes a priority over You, that is cheating.
good luck getting an s/o to admit that fact though lol
>>13325not just incels, even mentally ill trans people who fuck a lot can be absolutely disgusting stinky skinnyfat dwaves.
t. dated an ugly ftm bitch who hasnt brushed or showered in a year solid
>>13345`>>535575
hairline is still very much intact and normal for someone my age
im considering bleaching and perhaps dyeing the remaining hair to be more trendy
>>13346>>13348waow it didnt link my reply cause i accidentally put a `
hi anon heres my reply
>>13348>>13346anyway i have a nice skull shape, and have been told so before
I still feel shameful about shaving my hair that short but it would probably just keep me motivated to lose weight, so a win win despite the poor self esteem
>>13353>>13354also tbf I am a they
ear piercings just seem appropriate for my gender identity
>>13359Why is it a dumbass question? I thought it was good and encouraged self reflection.
>>13360I guess the dating options for men and women are very different too. Men will take whatever they can get while women can afford to be more selective.
>>13333>he looked handsome no homo just cooking his brain with incel bullshit.I think what many people overlook is that "blackpill incel shit" is more than just getting sex it's about society and evolution controlling women's sexuality and affection fucking over individuals. If women are attracted to you because you are handsome or popular, that meant they will ditch and divorce you if you lose your looks or social position. Their love was always fickle and ultimately worthless. Most men are so desperate they never take a step back.
>>13343>Im saving up for transplant right nowImagine letting some hack give you an operation willingly. Honestly be better going to a place with legal prostitution and getting it out of your system.
>>13361>Why is it a dumbass question? I thought it was good and encouraged self reflection. The thing that makes it stupid is the assumption that desirability of women and men is judged by the same standards, which obviously isnt true. And also insulting because the implication is that the person in question is some kind of greasy neckbeard who spends his days shitposting on the internet in a room full of pissjugs.
Like if you are a 20-something gymcel with nerdy hobbies and kind of autistic personality, thats a tough sell for a man, but a female version would have no issues.
I just got out of jail after seven months two weeks ago so I'm trying to adjust still. It's kind of sad I got along with inmates more than I do with the general public. At least in a jail environment I found a core group of people I clicked with and we'd all come together for a spread, or shared what we had, or just wasted time shooting the shit while I did tattoos.
Out here, it's different. I don't know if it's me and my generally laconic and reserved nature, or if it's just mean girls politicking, but I got my job back and I was immediately iced out from activities. Not that it matters as I wouldn't accept any invitations, but I still object to being treated like an afterthought. It's just annoying when you're busting your ass and people are too busy playing grab ass.
Which brings me to another thing: ex-wives. I've been broken up with mine for a year and she's one of the reasons I went to jail in the first place, but ultimately I have no ill feelings towards her. She immediately started dating and last I heard she was pregnant. That's fine and all, but she also has my daughter and she's dangling her like a fucking playing piece because she knows that's all I care about.
Eleven years and that's the treatment I get? I spent months kicking myself for all the mistakes I made, knowing I should have been a better man, and now that I had the opportunity to clear my head and start over I'm met with hostility and games. My daughter's birthday is next month and I'm not even going to see her. I've been there since the day she was born.
On a more positive note, I rekindled my passion for drawing and have been working diligently at pieces I left undone. It felt good having an audience in jail that genuinely appreciated my art…I also learned a few things from an old master that had been doing prison style work for decades.
>>13384To the extent that it exists, it seems like it's more of a problem for women since there's more women graduating college and the pay gap is shrinking and in some places flipping even. There's just not that many men in your cohort who are out-earning you any more. This is good btw, I'm not against this. Just saying that the "hypergamy" thing doesn't really work in this context. When you understand that pay is a bell curve and the gap is just the average, you realize there's a lot of women out-earning men now. Not that it's a
lot of money. Mfers are living paycheck to paycheck out here.
Thanks pornhub premium.Thanks pornhub, for making premium free on valentines days. Just another excuse for my boyfriend to jerk of instead of fuck me. Thanks you guys rock!
EDIT: I understand that it is not actually pornhubs fault, more meant to be a play on my pathetic life
EDIT2: Thank you for the gold! Was not expecting that
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/rant/s/lPd5t5vLwg https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/21/my-wife-and-i-used-to-love-sex-but-now-im-out-of-shape-and-she-has-painful-kneesRemeber to enjoy the time you have, before joints start aching
and the dick can't get up without some heart attack fuel>>13327I know some people with dwarfism who cheated on their partners (tv personalities in my country). The really short guy I knew managed to get a gf after some long struggles. The guy has a good heart and is leftist too.
>>13398lol true. I forgot to mention here:
>>13389Girlie was cute but she was covered in zits not looking like she was doing her makeup on the trip or something. Reminded me that every woman looks like the most pimply faced high school monster their whole lives if they don't put on their pimple face concealer for even a minute of the day.
>>13393People are too immature to appreciate singlehood. Until they come out of a bad relationship.
>>13231wrong. Its hebegynocentric. If said femcels were over forty, they wouldnt be loved.
>>53568school is hell and is part of the male lomeliness epidemic.
But maybe we should make schooling primarily vocational
Posted it in /isg/ but perhaps it's better here:
https://archive.ph/2024.05.19-220124/https://www.wired.com/story/i-went-undercover-secret-onlyfans-chatter-wasnt-pretty/
>Luka also told us to study all the customer data available on Infloww, the software his agency uses to manage its chats. Infloww tracks how much each subscriber has spent on pay-per-view content and tips, providing chatters with an easy way to differentiate between the two kinds of clients: “brokies” and “ballers.” We were under strict orders to devote minimal time to the former so we could lavish attention on the latter. Our goal with ballers was to “farm” them—to use our dramatic talents to sell the visual aids they need to fuel their gradual journeys toward orgasm. “If you’re able to play with people’s desires, you’re gonna maximize your cash flow, a hundred percent,” Luka said. “We have literal slaves on this account, meaning these people are so in love and obsessed and literally infatuated by anything that the girl does that they will open up their wallet to about $100,000 a month. And they will literally dump it all onto the girl. Just dumping, dumping, dumping, because we’ve done a good job of evaluating these people and dominating them and giving them enough praise.”>>13424If you read the article, most of the Johns don't know they're chatting with a literal prole.
>>13425This isn't FinDom, but it's not surprising for some retard to try and spin the literal exploitation of what OnlyFans are being taken to account on this as Fraud, as some sort of niche fetish.
>>13431They're paying for erotic content under the pretense that these conversations are going to lead to the solicitation of a relationship (again which the author highlights in the article).
FinDom, ironically, is partially ethical in that when you engage with the sex worker there is an explicit relationship.
This is just raw profit extraction, and may as well be no different to how oil, diamond, or whatever the many other resource-based mining there are: they find pockets of wealth, siphon them off, and simply charge a nominal fee.
The reason this belongs on /isg/ is becacuse this is the pentration of the exchange relationship, and with it the commodity form, into the very structure of the social relationship. What these people are being sold is not a fetish, but intimacy.
>>13431>What these people are being sold is not a fetish, but intimacy.This itself is an interesting point: imagine the situation of a child who is with their parent at a restaurant, a library, or on a bus. The parent, ever the savvy, has brought with them an iPad to keep their child occupied. When the child tries to engage with their parent, who is on their own phone watching tiktok, they are given a tablet and told to be quiet.
The child turns to one of the apps: Youtube. They type in their favourite youtubers name and settle to watch one of their videos.
The substitution with the attention of the parent is one in which the commodity enters. Their youtuber is a child's entertainer who knows their audience. Their channel, their videos, every detail of their online presence is constructed around harvesting an income provided through a viewcount.
The primary mode of socialisation has shifted from one in which the parent is directly responsible, to one that has been delegated to a computer.
You can see that in this final sentence you have what is occurring with these poor idiots. An entire economy of profit extraction along with a system of labor has been created as a substitution for the role of the parent. It is one, if anything, in which if the parent does not provide their child with this source of entertainment, they will kick and scream.
I might be insufferable. I'm constantly involved in long arguments about small details, that leave other people irritated and frustrated with me. I don't mean to offend, I feel displeasure in seeing others sad or angry or defensive.
People that were close to me walked away from my life or treated me with hostility, and often times I don't know where this comes from. All of this confuses me. I can only conclude that I'm the problem, but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Sometimes I suspect that I'm autistic for not being able to understand other people's hearts.
For context: colleagues and casual friends regard me as amicable, smart, funny etc. It's only people who get closer that develop a low opinion of who I am, so I think it's something deeper than "giving bad vibes" or whatever.
I have no clue how I can even begin to improve my situation. I'm tired of feeling unlovable, undesirable, bad company. I don't remember the last time I felt appreciated. Any advice from anyone who has felt this way before and could improve their circumstances would be immense help. Or any conjecture, at all. I'll try everything.
>>13450>>13453Autism is a curse. I tire of positivity cliches trying to whitewash the dregs.
Deep down people still pathologise you. Even if you werent combative, the fact youre autistic makes them put you on thin ice.
>>13458Making friends in adulthood is actually quite rare since you usually end up spending more time cultivating a family instead
But friends you do make will be from work.
Im 25 rn and basically have one friend i knew from high school. But i have acquaintances. A friend isnt just someone you hang out with, but a spiritual companion. Thats why its "bros before hoes".
Socrates talks about this, but he also equated friendship with gay sex, so he was already twisting things.
>>13459>you usually end up spending more time cultivating a family insteadI'd rather not
>But friends you do make will be from work.I keep failing interviews because of lack of basic social skills, this time will work I feel like I'll not fail this time
>A friend isnt just someone you hang out with, but a spiritual companion. Thats why its "bros before hoes".I wouldn't really know, but I should keep this is mind
>>13450lmao i feel bad for autists
until i talk to one and remember how insufferable they are
>>13458For starters, you need to have that person around with consistency. So it has to be someone from your workplace, or from some pub you both religiously go to, or a neighbour, or someone in a sports club you're in etc. Then you become acquaintances. That's the minimum required.
With acquaintances, there's three reasons you both could start seeing eachother as friends:
>utility: keeping that person close brings some benefit>pleasure: keeping that person close is entertaining>virtue: that person shares similar values as you, so you find company in eachotherThe two first kinds of friendship can be lasting but are usually short lived (one of a few years). The latter is generally long lasting.
After both of you are familiar enough by consistent coexistence, and find a (or multiple) reason(s) between those three to be around one another, you can start keeping eachother company outside of your initial context. Invite them to hang out, see them outsidr of where you usually see them. Things go from here.
>>13467I was going to post a snarky comment, but subcultures are a pretty good place for autists to meet people. Just don't expect to make any real friends per
>>13466 and you'll have a good time.
>>13459I think this whole stereotype about adulthood being social depravity due to family making is becoming less a thing.
Also its harder to make friemds in secondary school because social circles are already set.
>>13474>mohammedWut?
Jesus and Buddha no muhammed
>>13450Maybe try considering the time and effort that you have to trade to win the argument/ correct the person.
Like I was arguing with my boss randomly about gender =/= sex, and I didn't want to spend 10m fighting about it, and X hours over the course of days/weeks/months after, so I just argued enough to try and make them shut up,
(it didn't work but that's just how arguing works out :) ).
Honestly, arguing is good, it just needs to be done moderatly – that's one thing I give credit to the french, they argue all the time, even with politics.
>>13465One of the greatest pieces of advice has just dropped in this thread.
For those taking notes, link that with the concept of, Self-fulfilling prophecy
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