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>IT workers don't need an union, that's socialism and we are libertarian entrepreneurs who are going to be rich
>NOOOOOOOOOO WE JUST GOT MASS LAYOFFED AND REPLACED BY AI
Does this happen in your country?
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Been looking for work (while employed) for two fucking years. I have interviewed for only six jobs during that time.

>>2107
Didn't get that last job. Stupidly applied to a position that didn't have any pay listed. That means they know it is dog shit, they rejected me because their budget was less than half of what I was looking for.

how would that even work? from my (probably retarded) knowledge IT work is like a cuck it till you make it game and even if you're successful you maybe hold a job for like 6 months and then move on. are there actual successful examples of IT unions

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>>2070
>tell me about the current success of gas lamp lighting unions

Westminster saves Historic gas lamps after GMB campaign | GMB Union https://share.google/0L4A9EFng8ZIUA5AJ

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the nanosecond the IT crowd started exploring the idea of unionization, 100 million Indians were shortlisted to arrive in the US and Canada.



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Boss wants me to operate a forklift without a license, move extremely heavy and broken pallets through a tight hallway, where I sometimes climb up the pallets, but I get minimum wage.

Have you started the fire? We need it for night time. It's freezing here.

bitches love forklift operators, though

your boss is an idiot and is exposing himself and the company to massive liability. get some hard evidence of you driving that forklift with your boss's knowledge and approval and you've got some serious leverage, if he tries to fire you or doesn't give you the raise or promotion or hours or benefits you ask for or whatever it might be, you whip out that evidence and watch his face turn white.

>>2174
this. talk to a lawyer if you can find one, make sure your evidence is legal (one-party consent recordings) and get good at forklifting. Make sure you wear your seatbelt and don't be a retard. lol at mods for moving a labor dispute thread.

>>2175
also a reminder that this dude was union, got this job through his labor union at the union hall and still ended up fucked up



 

Don't get me wrong, I fully support unions and workers' rights but I don't think labor is a good thing in and out of itself. Creative labor, scientific labor, etc. sure but I think most jobs should just be automated in the long term.
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>>2140
he already got arrested and his mugshot is on the internet. his "infosec" is permafucked.

>>2149
>here's the difference, most of those things you fuck up once and then learn not to do it again.

the guy who destroyed the garbage disposal and filled it with cat shit was fired immediately and he wasn't even a paid employee; doctors fuck up and kill patients all the time, that's why malpractice insurance exists. there are entire industries devoted to absolving white-collar professionals of their fuckups, but fuck up once working on a high voltage transformer and you're gone, not just fired but literally gone, vaporized.

>>2148
>Get this man to tiling roofs in 100 degree summer heat, working in the sewer, into a slaughterhouse, welding on the bottom of the ocean.

years ago i worked at a very underfunded county animal shelter in texas where the dog kennel was just a big sweltering steel shed with one frigidaire window unit and no floor drains and for each kennel i had to take a large stray dog out, some of whom were aggressive and required a catch pole, bring them outside and leash them to a post and spray them down with a hose to cool them off and also clean them because most of them laid in their own excrement and were covered in it, then lock the dog in an outdoor pen to dry off and get some fresh air while i would go back in and pour a bucket of water and bleach on the floor and use a scrub brush to break up and dissolve the turds and basically liquify everything so it was vacuumable, then vacuum it all up and do another rinse with a hose and vacuum again to get all the bleach out so as not to burn the dog's feet, drag the bucking and thrashing dog back to the kennel and lock them up, repeat for all the other kennels. then i had to get someone to help me lift and pour out the shopvac reservoir filled with 50 gallons of liquified dogshit, wet dog hair, urine, and bleach soup into a big trash can with a contractor bag and tie it off and take it to the dumpster. by the end of every shift i was drenched head to toe in sweat with dogshit all over my bleach-stained work clothes and i had to bring an extra set of clothes and shoes and change in the bathroom and put the work clothes in a trash bag so i could drive home without ruining the interior of my car. the vet didn't euthanize dogs unless they were terminal or crippled and suffering but sometimes dogs died of disease or heat stroke or old age and we were constantly dealing with distemper outbreaks and struggling to keep everything clean and prevent it from spreading, i'd find dogs lying dead in a pile of shit with voided bowels and have to bag them up and carry them to the dumpster and toss them in with the bags of shitwater and it all got taken to the landfill by a garbage truck.

if i were given the choice between doing this job again or having to work as a sales representative in a call center again, i would choose the dog shelter no questions asked.

>>2148
>Get this man to tiling roofs in 100 degree summer heat
Do that at night
>working in the sewer, into a slaughterhouse, welding on the bottom of the ocean.
That's more of a lack of technology issue. Every job starts off kinda awful but gets easier with advancements in tech.

>>2153
Just make an unrelated persona.



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21 years old and haven't found work, went to school for IT and there are barely any jobs revolved around what I studied for, living in the euroreich, any other zoomies experiencing this? I've been thinking about getting my drivers license and just doing that since I prefer sitting jobs.

>>2114
Have you tried signing up with recruiters/agencies? I feel like job searching sites are totally useless now and 99% of the jobs on there are just fake, scams, or ridiculous requirements like "minimum wage - seeking Swahili speaker"

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>>2115
>Have you tried signing up with recruiters/agencies?
In my country we have a unemployment insurance fund who also help with finding work, so I might give that a shot.

>I feel like job searching sites are totally useless now

It's so bullshit. I know for certain that in America there are fake job-listings but I'm not sure if that has carried over to the EU yet.

>>2116
Pretty sure they're everywhere now. One of my acquaintances just got scammed like £300 by a fake task scam app thing.

The other day I got a robocall on my phone from a bored sounding Northern woman (clearly not the usual customer service voice is all I'm saying) that said "Hello, this is Indeed Human Resources, please add my number on WhatsApp to discuss a job opportunity" (yeah sounds legit).

>>2116
>In my country we have a unemployment insurance fund who also help with finding work, so I might give that a shot.

Also, I would try this yeah, but also contact private recruiter companies, they get commission of like £1000 - £3000 or something if they find you a job and they hire you, so they're a lot more motivated than bored government employees.



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Things suck right now in Amerikkka and I can only imagine how much it will be in 2027 when I graduate High-School, I worry that with this gig-economy and AI shit going around I will never achieve my art dreams and be stuck as a Wagie.
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You will survive the chemicals and projectiles of the front.

Honest question, should I just empty out my 401k and just forget about retirement? That shit's not until 2055 anyway.

>>1995
I wouldn't if I were you. You'll get old one day

>america
> <$100,000
imagine not hoping on a decrepit fucking raft and seeking asylum in vietnam

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can always fall back on the anarcho part of anarchotyranny.



 

because it's always gossiping and petty drama all the time.
My favorite workplace environment was a warehouse where 95% of the employees were dudes and the rest were butch lesbians who were actually pretty chill compared to their straight counterparts.
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Its just a little annoying when my mostly female co-workers ask about my love life since it's nonexistent. And, I wouldnt dare tell them about where I go and what I do in the wee hours of the night. But it's nice they actually try to set me up and bring up other girls etc they know in the area. Women I used to work with never used to try, so I must be doing something right if women at work are trying to set me up.

Dealing with a foreman who’s flexing his machismo bone sucks fucking dick

>>1868
>they all have the same boring attitude where you cant have fun unless you’re bullying someone.
corporate types of both genders are like this. but it's a different form of bullying than you see in manual labor

>>1868
>hetmoids who are programmed to all like the same boring bullshit and they all have the same boring attitude where you cant have fun unless you’re bullying someone

This is ironic as my experience shows men are actually just as bad about all this shit and only blame women to deflect. Also, I've worked in five warehouses over the last twelve years and there's been a pretty even distribution of men and women, including straight women. Maybe it's regional, maybe you're full of shit.



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it's clearly the consumer that's the problem. The management are aghast at how the public treats their workers. How could you expect somebody to work for free? Servers need tips to survive, not tipping them at least 100% is the financial equivalent of murder. It should come with jail time, because at least with real murder the victim doesn't suffer for a long time. Anybody tipping less than 120% is a monster.
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>>2048
working with food is like the most defining human social activity, its only a hellscape now because of capitalist alienation
>NIMBY
the Zionist "Abundance" guys demand their serfs make them treats

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>>2089
The image presents a false dichotomy. Preparing food has been a social activity for most of human history and neither did it depend on the concept of dining, nor the conspicuous consumption of hobby cooks.

>>2048
Left girl has an A on her name, thus an anarchist, thus a liberal, thus no opinion she has will ever be worthy of hearing
Right guy is correct, it is just way more efficient, home cooking is petty booj

>if you can't tip your server, don't eat out
what if you tipped your server by eating her out

>The management are aghast at how the public treats their workers.

You seem to have very strong opinions as someone who has no clue and who has never been around rich people, being ignorant about the fact that their material status makes the viscerally disgusted by workers nor has worked a service job and knows that rich people tip the worst.



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china kidnaps neets from their parents home and forces them into prison work camps

ah the wonders of secularist capitalistic hell-holes.

Is this the final solution?

I'm not opposed to this if they're not killing them in mass or mistreating them. Although when you fall to this point their may be very little to bring you back. Maybe the Chinese could be better at this although this video is propaganda and who knows how bad it is in these places. I could see America doing this and it just resulting in another holocaust with a whole bunch of rape thrown in.
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>>2083
gorbachev dissolved the party
deng did not
deng took burger jobs and now china is stronger than america.
without doing so china would be india, capitalist AND weaker than america. socialism isn't just about ideological purity, it's about development of the productive forces. marx said there can be no liberation without the development of industry. this isn't just absolute development of industry beyond feudalism, but about development of socialist industry beyond capitalism. a socialist country has to be more productive than a capitalist country to defeat it in warfare, since supremacy in warfare depends on industrial output just as much as it depends on drafting people into the red army. force must be used. I get why NEETs are afraid of being exploited but they are also exploiting their own working class mothers and fathers by expecting to hide in their rooms and mooch off their families until 30 rather than going out into the real world.

>>2096
Some people can't work because they're not needed anymore.

I believe for example that the humanities at university should be replaced with AI because everything up to AI is authentic but anything beyond can't be guaranteed to be authentic. If they disagree then they should be shipped off to the fucking work camps. Like really, who the fuck thinks they're entitled to oxygen. Fucking hell with these people.


>"final solution"
>tor user
they stick out like sore thumbs

>>2101
By the way he took most of the post from me. The last paragraph was completely mine.



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theres literally no point to anything bro. nobody will hire me, not even fking maccas. ive applied to all kinds of jewbs, and literally nothing has been meaningful. at current minimum wage, i should be compensated multiple thousands of dollars for the work ive spent applying, to get rejected 929 times….. its over…. i feel like the one video of a slice of toast falling over…


i am currently employed in the logging industry (70hrs/week for decent pay) but im trying to get something a little easier on my body and its just not possible LOL.

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aren't egoists supposed to know this already



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>How many people are employed in electronics manufacturing in America?

>What companies manufacture electronics in America?


>How many people work at these companies making electronics specifically for the military?


>Does manufacturing electronics for the military help people? Is there something else that workers should be doing?


>If people did something else, would quality of life in America go up, or would it go down instead?


I am interested in hearing some opinions. ANSWER ME DAMN IT!!1



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