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Whoever came up with using AI for tech support chat is a genious and a liberator, a hero of modern IT workers.
I fucking hate doing tech support. Blessed be LLMs.
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>>1086
>Talking to people is a skill. Communicating with people is a skill. De-escalating people is a skill. Troubleshooting is a skill. Tech support workers are skilled workers. Corona just fired, what was it, 700 of their tech support workers and replaced them with AI. So now what are those tech support workers going to go do? Get a job at the fucking McDonald's like everybody else? Get 10 hours? AI hasn't liberated anybody. It's only made the rich richer. That's fact. This AI shit isn't a liberation of anyone, except for your wallet into the rich people's fucking pocket.

Become a clerk or something

>>1086
also complaining about the deskilling of labor, an inevitability of capitalism, is the petit booj as fuck lol. as expected from the "zine" content creator

>>1113
Most of the jobs being deskilled are non-technical jobs anyway.

>>1117
The people who are the most pissy about AI are usually people who don't do any essential work.
They usually do hobby work.

They're averse to blue collar jobs in the first place.

>>1110
Depends on the type. Some system and network admins know the entire product catalog of CISCO, but use PCs in a manner barely more agile than a boomer



 

>Finished with my graduate class.
>Resume gap pretty much filled.
>Mostly finished teaching myself necessary skills.
>Not motivated by the slop or the cardboard boxes.
>Decided to job hunt anyway.
>Can only procrastinate making NEET threads so long.
>NEET excuses running out.

How do you go about looking for jobs anon?
So far have only skimmed through Indeed and applied to jobs that caught my attention.
Got nothing back from these, but that was before my resume was specialized.
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Am up 80 applications so far but no bites yet. Lots of internships applications too, and have been pumping out personal projects for the portfolio.

>>1123
So did finally manage to get out of bed and get to looking at least.

>>1123
Make it 100 lol.

Damn, is it really that bad out there? I'm considering another job but I have no idea what to look for or where to look.

>>1132
Prostitute



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Why is it socially acceptable if not encouraged in all political axes to hate work but it's considered blasphemous to hate school?

Why is it that whenever I ask most people what they learn in school, all they tell is the dumb shenanigans they committed, even to the point of wanting to officiate "rites of passage" based on dumb reckless childish stunts, but they cannot remember one intellectual thing?


Whenever adults are asked to help with schoolwork, their minds are blank. Whenever it comes to bullying, they have no backbone except for punishing victims for self defense.

I notice that the people who miss school the most usually are those with no work ethic or people who kinda have some unfulfilled teenage quests.

I'm not against schooling, but we need to revamp it entirely. Trying to segregate worldly factors from the classroom for the sake of "protecting the younguns" usually results in an immature society.

I believe a lot of our problems with labor and education is due to how modern society views them as parallel worlds with differing rules.

School should reflect the workforce in social treatment, type of tasks, and infrastructural design

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Juvenoia probably.
>Why is it that whenever I ask most people what they learn in school, all they tell is the dumb shenanigans they committed, even to the point of wanting to officiate "rites of passage" based on dumb reckless childish stunts, but they cannot remember one intellectual thing?
You live in a 90's coming of age comedy film.

>why do people get nostalgic over hanging out with friends and getting free food in a building with AC/heating when compared to actually going to work
Imageboard mindset lmao just cuz you thought you were to smart for the normies to cope doesn't mean everyone else had the same experience lmao. its not even BlAsPheMouS to hate against public schooling ppl do all the time they just recognize sitting around and goofing off with the other middle schoolers isnt the same thing as a going to work. only imageboard mfers be saying stupid shit like this get a fucking job

>>919
Well, we never really left the 1990s. I mean most of our pop culture producers now are mainly Gen X and Millennials.

>>920
>It's not that bad to be stuck in a classroom filled with other kids who are prone to acting out and making your life hell and making you tempted to ruin your life.

>Work is hellish. I mean who knew making things that help society run efficiently was so degrading? I wanna be a lazy bum all day! The world owes me for not having that stupid teenage adventurism


>>917
It's funny how society will ban kids from recreational or industrial activities over isolated incidents but when frequent incidents happen in academic activities, nobody wants to restrict/vet

>>920
>Imageboard mindset lmao just cuz you thought you were to smart for the normies to cope doesn't mean everyone else had the same experience lmao.

Actually, most image board users are the biggest romantics for schooldays.
I mean, do you even lurk in /Siberia/? Lots of posts whining about not having a gf or friends to do stereotypically juvenile stuff with

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Anybody know of any good job sites for part-time work, ideally uk based? I’ve been using indeed for a while but it’s shit, i’m just looking for bar work or something before i head off to university in the autumn but every job site i’ve checked (cv library, reed, etc) are just filled with garbage jobs that i’m either not qualified for, are too far, or are just email scam type jobs

>>1009
for service job the old fashioned way is still the way, at least that's my experience. Print a lot of cvs with a good and simple presentation, lie about experience ALWAYS, prepare a route in your town to cover as many restaurants/bars as possible, and walk and talk. Say hello to the people, look for the person in charge, and then just humbly say thay you are looking for work

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>>1009
Pic rel has been pretty helpful in my job hunt.
Helped me filter out a bunch of jobs wouldn't qualify for.
Might still not get what I'm looking for though.



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I used to think differently about service jobs for years as I wasn’t one of those “if it isn’t blue collar it isnt a real job” socialist nut heads, but my feelings for that idea has shifted towards it for different reasons.

I dont think a socialist movement is possible of servitude and service work is allowed to continue. It took ages to illegalize slavery and yet there is more of it than ever—mainly through the never ending flood of terrorist and kidnapping groups that make eradicating the problem fucking impossible without eradicating kidnapping.
Service work doesn’t fair much better as it is only barely above servitude and slavery in terms of dignity but falls back to that status if public services are ever bought out and stolen by private actors.
Outside of being undignified, these jobs just flat out and do not have to exist in a socialist society. They’re just bad jobs period and it would be better for everyone if they went away. No one really needs a consultant, housekeeper, motivator, receptionist, gig workers, restaurant service workers, or whatever other petty job that a person—a normal person—can do themselves without guidance.
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>>1033
This.
It's unfortunate that people think cleaning public spaces is something for maids/reformed criminals.

>>676
You're mad at the division of labor. This is primmie utopian shit

Ideally sure as working hours go down, people will have more time to dedicate to many service type things outside of a formal work environment or within their own homes, but that's down the line.

Your issue is that you say the most destitute and oppressed are in service work, yet we should shun service workers and degrade what they do. Many people take pride in their jobs. Even if it you didn't really have a choice in what you do, sometimes it's all you can do to keep hopeful about your life. We should absolutely be going to the most oppressed and putting ourselves in their shoes. Go do that and tweak your messaging as needed. I'm sure a minority will be receptive to the idea that their job should not exist, but many others will be ambivalent and others will think you're saying their work brings no value to society. When both parents have to work, childcare is needed. When children have full time jobs, senior care is needed. When you have a 30 minute lunch break, fast food workers are needed. Plus all the other non-industrial non-agricultural work that is technically service work.

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>>1081
Hazcel detected, opinion rejected

>>1017
service workers are semi-proletarians. your time is better spent with proletarians, as a proletarian.

>>1083
this is actually really insulting to the other russia movement, pls dlete this



 

Should truckchuds just be replaced by AI driverless trucks? They voted for this
<when the """""union""""" rep says he isn't anti-corporation or whatever
How much more classcucked can you get?
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Yes

>>998
>what? noooo i was supposed to wage slave in perpetuity
why are whites and nordcucks such retards about muh jerbs. the point of life is not to jerb away just to jerb away, having robots do everything was always the goal so men could finally be set free

>>1001
wrong. you may as well say peasant are reactionary. truckers went on strike in canada and threatened to collapse economy. the glowie unions denounced the strike and functioned as scabs.
>Teamsters Canada would welcome collaboration with government and employers to address today’s real challenges in the trucking industry to keep the supply chain going and Canada’s economy growing.
https://teamsters.ca/blog/2022/02/07/the-real-enemy-for-truckers-is-covid-19/
>>1077
>why do people want a job to live durrr

>>1078
>living means le jerb
maybe for white cucks

>>1001
What kind of non-music radio channels do you have?



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Are master's programs really just cash cows like everyone keeps telling me?

Tldr all the arguments I hear against doing one:
>costs too much
>easier admissions process
>bad quality of education
>more debt
>can get a job without one anyways
>mainly used by internationals to game visas
>most jobs dont require it

But, I cant help but feel a lot of this is cope from people that dont have one. It has to help get more interviews easier and the wages are probably higher.

I got an admit into UCLA and feel like I should take it. My undergrad was in a shittier state school and the rep would help me out. But its going to be 40grand and dont know if Im just about to get scammed
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I have yet to find a professional Master's degree that is actually useful. MBA? Trash. MPH? Double trash.
The only reason to get a master's is if you want to work towards a PhD and live in academia. The only graduate degrees worth a damn otherwise are medicine, law, dentistry and perhaps engineering.

>>351
OP I am going to be frank with you: Discussions about college degrees on the internet are 99.99% vibes-based and people who have no understanding of the subject think they're qualified to talk out of their ass about it. In particular people who fellate "the trades". It's become a cultural signifier, there's basically no facts involved and even the anecdotes are unreliable at best.
I would speak with an actual counselor and figure out what exactly your future career prospects would look like, and then with that baseline you can do further research from there. Obviously the counselor is part of the university so they wouldn't give an absolutely objective viewpoint, but they would still give you a general idea of what exactly it is you're looking at career-wise.
Is it actually true that you could get a job with the degree you already have? Have you tried to figure that out? You would know better than us. It's your money/debt, your desires, your time.

>>441
>99.99% vibes-based and people who have no understanding of the subject think they're qualified to talk out of their ass about it. In particular people who fellate "the trades". It's become a cultural signifier, there's basically no facts involved and even the anecdotes are unreliable at best.


Bruh, I hear more people fellating college degrees and treating trades as fascist breeding grounds

>can get a job without one anyways
>most jobs dont require it

redundant

>>417
People look down on dentistry work but then when they get toothaches theyre so grateful to get help.



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I want do individual entrepreneurship playing music for money, what is the most effective instrument to get the most money in street busking *(without singing)?
I'm thinking accordion, bagpipes, guitar or violin.
>You are petite-bourgeoisie Hitler
Yes I am freikorps, I killed Rosa Luxemburg, I killed Karl Liebknecht, I was Hitler I killed myself.
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>>1050
They get actual chump change where I live, its so fucking miserable, the working conditions are awful and the pay is so shit its compareable to a street sweeper. I did 2 months at mcdonalds, NEVER AGAIN.

>>1051
This is why general schooling should be mainly vocational, especially in poor areas.
Once you graduate, you get free waivers to good colleges.

>>971
OP what is the point of this thread? Do you even play an instrument already lol? The best way to get a living as a musician and something even people who went to Berkely or Juliard do is to play weddings and etc. But like I just pointed out, these are top tier musicians working for basically chump change in the first place. You're not going to make a living busking especially if you're not already like some master musician.

The Irish Uilleann Pipes - an instrument so impressive that learning it will keep you fed, clothed, and welcomed wherever you go. In the summer i'd make more money busking than I would in a day job.

https://youtu.be/xL41fvOgYFM?si=axHb6aJZFet-iZ_Q

>>1068
You'd have to live in a tourist spot for that to happen.



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you ever wondered how do giant cranes suddenly get built overnight and you never notice them appearing until they're in place?
anyway making a new general for work in here, thread for all work Know-how, share all the unkown skills you know that are related to your work but most people don't know about/could use knowing

labour intensive work (how to hammer a nail, how to screw a bolt), shitty office work (how to multitask, how to avoid choking your boss, how to spread rumors about a cunt from Human Resources), food work (what we put in your sandwich behind the kitchen, how to mop the floor efficently, how to built tolerance against the smell of bathrooms) trades or STEM (how to argue online your profession is the best using mental gymansium) even sex work (how to suck cocks, how to fuck people in the ass, what to do when he's a shy virgin and he's annoying)

>inb4 i'm neet anti-worker

then share with us what you do to feel the best, how to tie a blanket around your shoulder like the pepe neet, how to get high at home no money paid, how to forge a katana, how to speedrun a game or a book, how to decorate your house in a way that don't make you feel like a miserable wagie
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Anybody do wastewater or drinking water? Or if not and you have a problem with your septic tank or whatever I will try to help. I used to feel like a loser when I was still a meritocratic lib starting out working in poo water but I love this shit now.

You know I was thinking, not only are we not salting workplaces, we're not even helping fellow leftists get jobs. I think that's the best mutual aid you can do is help get a fellow leftist a job or a better job. We should have networks getting our people into good gigs.

>>821
good idea. rightoids and stormfags do this all the time.

is it betraying humanity and earth, to seek employment in oil-offshore plants, or mining sectors, namely as specialised truck\crane operator, or, as any other sort of qualified technician?

>>1045
That's an individualist vision of the world. Capitalism won't survive because you go in the banking sector. Climate change won't get worse because you work for an oil company.
What matters is the action of collective subjects.



 

“He who has a why to live can bear almost any how.” – Nietzsche

Pain is not our enemy. Pain is a forge. It is in the fire of suffering that the raw metal of the self is shaped, sharpened, and refined. Nietzsche understood this deeply: pain is not merely to be endured — it is to be integrated, even chosen.

When suffering is uncontrolled, it breaks us. But when it is deliberately embraced, structured, and endured with discipline, it becomes a weapon. A form of inner architecture. The man who endures controlled pain becomes the master of the terrain — because he has already confronted the worst within himself.

And in this mastery lies true power:

The world can no longer surprise you, because you have chosen to confront discomfort before it chooses you.

But in today’s world, that power is rare. Frédéric Martel, in his critique of mainstream culture, reveals how global entertainment has become a system of soft domination — manufacturing consent, diluting thought, and replacing confrontation with distraction. Pleasure is mass-produced. Conflict is aestheticized. Pain is avoided at all costs.

In such a world, the people are not merely entertained — they are dulled, made passive, trained to reject anything that demands effort or tension.

This is where controlled discipline becomes the last bastion of freedom. It is resistance. It is the refusal to be softened into conformity. By embracing pain as a method — not a punishment — the disciplined individual creates a gap between himself and the system. A space of lucidity. Of sovereignty.
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cool self help

I’ll set that aside and return to my point: as Blaise Pascal showed with his notion of divertissement, people habitually flee from deeper questions by drowning themselves in endless distractions—but in our society, where distraction is commodified, Pascal’s diagnosis no longer helps us resist it. We can also invoke Kant’s critique of the heteronomy of thought, which warns that our minds too often submit to external pressures rather than exercise genuine, autonomous judgment.

Oh boy another machismo post that glorifies suffering and thinks any form of leisure/pleasure is "muh bad".

Suffering is universal. Suffering is easy.

People who wrote or believe shit like OP are often those who never actually had to suffer or they don't have any constructive form of work

>>1036
>Blaise Pascal showed with his notion of divertissement, people habitually flee from deeper questions by drowning themselves in endless distractions


If this were true, why do we have so many books, movies, audio logs, etc of religion, politics, and socio biological equality?

People are less educated about natural science and basic mechanics than they are about basic theology and politics.



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