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Things suck right now in Amerikkka and I can only imagine how much it will be in 2027 when I graduate High-School, I worry that with this gig-economy and AI shit going around I will never achieve my art dreams and be stuck as a Wagie.
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90% of workers never retire

>>1795
Just lie

>>1795
Just say no dawg

Lol

>>1795
It's illegal for them to ask that so if they find out that you are lying then they are confessing to a crime and you can countersue.

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You will survive the chemicals and projectiles of the front.



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>le working class
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>>1897
Executives do not primarily make their money from wages they make it from stock; ownership shares in the company. Most execs are petit boug or boug.

Politicians make most of their money from bribes and insider trading.

Managers and cops are workers but they're also class traitors.

>>1897
Name a single proletarian revolution, you can’t because they literally all happened in semi feudal semi colonial countries

>>1897
>executives
usually also get stock ownership and other fringe benefits.
>managers
most of them, yes. "manager" sounds bad, but illustratively: a supermarket "manager" in britain makes very little more than the workers they manage.
>cops
yes
>politicians
no, but they're a very special case: as well as the ability to sell access they wind up with a range of fringe benefits and are usually subsidized to hire staff of their own. on top of this, their conditions of employment are unusual: basically impossible to fire for 3-5 years, then completely random whether they keep their job or not, then another 3-5 years of total security if they do.

if you want to talk shared interests and shared conditions of life your citation of factory workers is inapt in most developed countries: they are now fairly rare figures who often earn much more than the average prole. if you're a factory worker in britain today, odds are you're getting £60k+/yr to put together high-performance jet engines or ejector seats for Israeli F-35s, not £24k/yr to screw together dinky toys.

>>1878
Anyone who would starve and go homeless if they stopped selling their labor (barring the aid of charity or government).

>>1878
The prole has his labor-power reduced to a commodity. It's not about empiricism. It's about how the subsistence of the prole is bought and sold on the market.



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What is the coziest job? I love the idea of being a fisherman. Can you imagine being a Scandinavian fisherman? Must be awesome.

I fantasize a lot about being a hard-bodied young man sailing across the world, exploring all of Europe, all the while serving my nation by being the best Fisherman in all the land. Hopefully I will reincarnate into something like that. Unfortunately I'm a lazy-eyed, glasses-wearing, wimpy little freak.
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>>1531
I do this except the money isn't huge, just comfy, and I don't make the world a better place. However, the puzzles are fun and I agree it's the coziest job if you have the right personality to stare at a screen all day.

>>1530
Sounds awesome lol

>>1450
I want to be a wolf. no work no commute just awoo

guess it depends on your own personal preference. Personally, id love to be something like nature park maintenance. Fixing trails and keeping a natural space clean while being outside most of the time appeals to me. But other people would find it misrable im sure.

>>1837
Me too. Closest I can get to that is being a Therian Otherkin… but it's not quite the same u_u



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Do any of you work some kind of sinecure?

What is your job description and what do you actually do? Does it pay the bills? Do you take the time to pursue some hobbies or do you mostly just chill?
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>>1855
Unarmed night shift "security" or "toll troll" for only serving to open a barrier on a toll booth, I do nothing besides radio in that everything is normal, if its not normal its not my problem its the patrol's problem (patrols are cars of armed security that come when an alarm triggers), I shitpost and eat for a living.
>does it pay the bills
The pay isn't good but its possible to save up by having minimal expenses.
>Do you take the time to pursue some hobbies or do you mostly just chill?
Both yes.
>are you not defending private property
A logistics hub storage of alcohol and pills / pharmaceuticals? From lumpen mafia looking to get drunk and high on DXM? If they come and need something I will buy it for them out of my paycheck.

>>1881
> pills / pharmaceuticals
And from the inventory on the site I've checked most of it is food supplements, cosmetics and other trivial stuff.


>>1882
Then they have to be really retarded to break through metal shutters over such things.

>>1855
Me. Ive been working one for 8 years now. I work only about 10% of the hours I get paid for. However it was all luck and I really mean it, I got very lucky, plus I might be getting fired soon. If you want you can try to replicate what I did but it wont work likely. I joined a boomer owned company, worked for a few months, carved out a tech position for myself, really wowed the ceo/owner, sucked up to him a lot, and told him I was going remote due to a family emergency (lied). He caved and I just never went back.

As for time, I feel guilty because I waste too much of it, but I did do a shit ton of different hobbies to the point where I feel like theres not much left Id like to try. The fear of getting fired and being homeless keeps me from enjoying it all fully as I know I prob wont luck out like that again.



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Was tricked to sign a letter of resignation from my job at the russian post office. Despite the fact that I was on probation and my employment contract was fixed-term (although informally after its termination they almost always offer a full-time position) my…I don't know - supervisor? the main bitch of the workplace? didn't like me because of a couple of fuckups like a cash shortage, which I was really guilty of and paid for out of my own pocket (the statement of financial responsibility was signed by me on the first day of employment), and she decided to lie that the employee I was replacing was about to go to work.
Which was an easily verifiable lie that I realized literally as I closed the door behind me. Ah, yes, since I quit "at my own request", I have to work for three days, so called "otrabotka" (two weeks if you were taken without probation), which I will not do (devilish?), because after signing my resignation letter I am no longer an employee and can not be forced to work.
Also new thing I learned opening the labor code for the first time.
-there is no concept of working after dismissal, but there is a concept of notification before dismissal, so it should be 3 days or 2 weeks before the fact.

Thanks for reading my stupid rant.
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>>1772
the culture is darknet dead drops only no face to face meetings

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How come I am not getting any responses to my applications? No calls, no emails, not even "Unfortunately…". I am genuinely confused what am I doing wrong.

>>314
How the fuck can anyone deal with all the hype and bullshit in computer programming? This sort of stuff kills my soul.

couldn't sleep until 3 am and called in sick, pray for me

I live in the boonies and I've been unemployed for 5 years. I applied online to a specific dollar general within walking distance, just to walk there and find out they aren't hiring



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you will just be out of a job and unable to get a new one or pay for these things. Itl go little by little though so when it happens to you god forbid, maybe you have peak job security, itl just be the same old tale of someone losing their job and needing to put their nose to the grindstone if they want out of the mess. Except one day there will also be no "way out of this mess" on an individual level. By the time there is an issue to our ability to get food or power we will already have long dwindled and moved on this isnt a collapse in my opinion where any of these things will be directly "taken away" from you. Itl be like the sly turned red and the moon exploded and yet there really isnt anything we can do about that so we all just go about our lives for as long as possible trying to ignore it.

Maybe better than a collapse id call it a cascade or something because we won't be in "post capitalism" itl just fall from the sky above into our lap. If you still have power and food and your work still has power and food you probably will go about your days same as always, like you are doing now! If you have friends even better. Thee elite liquidate asset owning middle class via insider trading or really just the banal fact that capital and the stocks ups and downs orbit the ultra wealthy at an increasing rate that a middling financial advisor can not keep up with or guarantee any longer that "the stock markets always up long term" even if it is. It still is but is increasingly not a valid promise of security regarding the middle classes few hundred thousands. They will likely see the writing on the wall and panic at the writing on the wall before anyone, hate to say it. Because yeah this is no traditional collapse, and to be frank if you are OP I still stand by you in that its not a collapse that has anything to do with partisian politics or peoples views on sex and its not because of our personal ideological disagreements and while I think fascism and racism are serious problems the crying and screaming that this era of capitalism we are in is "fascist" is a disservice to just how unique capitalism is. We easily could have had someone like mamdani run for president and get elected and while that would make me very happy and for me housing insecurity is a real likelihood in the distant future, capitalism would mold and shift to be forward facing "socialist capitalism" instead of forward facing "fascist capitalism". To get back on track if you have Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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Most people are retarded assholes and the government does not represent my views or needs, instead we have idiots sacrificing my rights to appease elites.
I feel like everyone hates me because I don't side with their religious or political views

I hate the human race
Humans are destructive, why would I want to contribute to a society that constantly kills each other?
Most people are sociopaths
I'm tired of them trying to include me into their soykaf
I think the planet would be better off without humans
I'm tired of humanity, I see no purpose in contributing to this hell

I'd rather be homeless and free to reign than to work for a species of violent apes
I'm tired of all this
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Most honest glownonymous poster

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>>1766
have you tried just collecting disability lol

>soykaf
Nice repost

>>1766
US sent it's actual best and brightest to pump gas.

>>1766
>Most people are sociopaths
Are you most people?



 

because it's always gossiping and petty drama all the time.
My favorite workplace environment was a warehouse where 95% of the employees were dudes and the rest were butch lesbians who were actually pretty chill compared to their straight counterparts.
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im a hetmoid and id rather work with all women because they at least try to keep things pleasant and light and are willing to listen to people as opposed to hetmoids who are programmed to all like the same boring bullshit and they all have the same boring attitude where you cant have fun unless you’re bullying someone. some dudes are okay though the smarter ones aren’t so bad, but they’re rare.

>>1868
>and they all have the same boring attitude where you cant have fun unless you’re bullying someone

Realest shit ever and one of the most awful things in male socialization.

>>1868
This sounds more like stereotypes. For personal experience, men are diverse in personalities

They’re not all jocular chauvinists

I’ve had more in depth conversations with men and they’re willing to exchange jokes without it being bullying
And not all women are polite smily empathy

>>1869
Women ironically behave the same way but use differing wording

>>1868
Have you ever worked with women in fast food restaurants during morning shift?

>>1868
I’ve had women who say they rather work with men than with other women



 

Stemlords are actually picrel. Its no surprise stemlords are complete retards. Im doing a masters in STEM and can't believe how intellectually barren math and this field is. There is no critical thinking involved, just memorizing some garbage symbols and their rules. Solving some dumb problems with some dumb patterns and repeat.

How did stemlords get so much prestige, while being just mere symbol technicians? Humanities at least teaches some theory and critical thinking, STEM is just complete trash meant for brainlets.

No wonder philosophy underpins all math and logic, stem is just surface level work for retards. I havent encountered a single intellectually deep thought in STEM once.
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>>1370
>>1373
Pure Math is one of the hardest STEM fields (only behind Physics) and Languages imo is one of the easiest Humanities fields (Arts even more so). A fairer competition would be something like Civil Engineering versus History.

>>1343
>STEM isnt teaching anything worthy of being applied in the first place. Tell me how intellectually rich a binary tree is, or a stupid depth first search algorithm? Or the concept of logarithms?
The tools with which you can analyze and understand nature, or theorize and build a system. The depth of these tools is only so far as the depth of those who wield them.

OP are you retarded?
STEM has practical subjects that can be traced back to nature.

>>1370
American issue. It should all be hard. Humanities are so watered down only being harder than “business” school simply because there is some thinking and writing that goes into it. Not the case in countries where getting into university is difficult.

>>1839
Idk if this is a good measure
Just because something is he’d doesn’t mean it’s always good/useful.

If of course you mean in the sense that it’s not watered down, to filter out less competent students then yes.

Also, universities in America are harder to get into



 

How do I find the job in my field if I have been out of college for years and have no relevant experience? I would like something in a public or non-profit sector, where I could do social science research or data analytics. But like I dont think I have much of a chance of getting hired into entry level position if they could take a fresh collage graduate with intership experience. Is there anything I can do? I cant bear being stuck in dead end nightmare I am at now.
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I want to learn some basic data skills but have no foundation.

I've seen things like The Wizard Book, Rust, LISP, R-something (used a lot in science?), Python (apparently old now and there's something newer Paul Cockshott uses?)…

I just want to be able to bash things together to prove points on the fly.

But I did Arts as a degree and theatre through school so I'm cooked ;_;

>>637
This would make me p. sad if it was true.

>>647
>I want to learn some basic data skills but have no foundation.
Half the stuff you listed is for programming (and good fun if you're up for it) more than for data analytics. The tools used in data analysis are SAS, Tableau, PowerBI, or Excel (pick one), R, or Python (pick one), and SQL. The basic foundational skill is some introductory statistics.

>bash things together to prove points on the fly.

The problem would probably be getting data for this. You might be better off just learning stats to make inferences from scientific articles.

>>647
Just learn Excel or LibreOffice Calc.

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Huh, this thread is still up. Year later and things only got worse.

>>621
Be cute and tell the hirer you will suck their dick for a job



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