/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2852043
No Champ, I'm mocking the fact that these maps and announcement do not display anything "meaningful". What does liberating a building mean? Does it mean it was cleared? Does it mean they checked and there were no Ukrainian soldiers there? Is the building still there after being "liberated", or was it destroyed? Does it mean it's guaranteed they won't be able to return without first passing through some sort of roadblock, or chokepoint? We've gone from "liberating" regions, to cities, to raions, to microdistricts to individual buildings now.
What's the point of these announcements involving settlements where almost no one is living anymore? To prove to their gooning war voyeur audiences that something's 'happening'. Which buildings were liberated? Where? How? Why? According to whom? What does it matter for taking the town? What strategic advantages are gained by capturing this particular city and how will it shorten the war and force Bankova into capitulating? Who knows. The point is to prove there's no stalemate so people like (you) (and especially the pro-war crowd in Russia) don't lose their hard-ons.

>>2851960
And so it begins

>>2852073
Well I did just explain why liberated buildings don’t need an “aura” to be worthwhile.

>>2852012
FYI I’d argue any state that is currently depleting their economies to prop up a state that honours genocide and justifies a complete unwillingness to accept compromise to end the conflict by dehumanising Russians in their mainstream media to be fascist.

Ukraine bombing Russian oil infrastructure is actually good for Russia because it helps Russia cut CO2 emissions and help the environment

>>2851869
Didn't this village fell like two weeks ago? Is it falling again? For how long are you going to be milking it?

>>2852181
Please, if all of these smokey fires causes an increase in cancer rates and birth defects in Russia then that's going to be celebrated as Ukraine's "dead man's switch".

>>2852020
attention to this mattered thanked.

Appropriation funds, us regime, for ukraine.

2 more weeks until the Crimean beach party of 2023 materializes

>>2852122
But in a war of attrition, why are the buildings worthwhile? Are there munition plants changing hands?
Would it be meaningful if the AFU captured 93 building in Kolyma? Is there a particular density of buildings before it becomes worthwhile?
Why would the war end anyway if either side 'captures' the Donbas. Let's say for example that tomorrow the AFU 'liberates' the entire Donbas; why would the war end on the Russian side? Is this like a video game where the map physically ends at the internationally recognized borders of Ukraine/Russia? If tomorrow the RAF captures Kramatorsk, would Bankova be forced to capitulate because they lost too many "control points"?
The amount of fluffing and punditry surrounding the war is ridiculous. The maps are ridiculous too when you consider the ranges of the weapon systems involved.

>>2852495
>But in a war of attrition, why are the buildings worthwhile?
Once again you're putting the cart before the horse.

>>2852112
>>I‘m seriously worried we might be seeing the narrative preparations for something bad. Something very bad.
it's the same worry every time. Ukraine lost Konstantinivka and Lyman. Media and pro-Ukraine infospace is trying very hard to make people not look. Also when they say Russia is collapsing they are just prepping projection accusations of Ukraine collapsing. First accuser always has the advantage in narrative wars. Western leadership knows both projection and distraction very well.

EU leadership isn't even banking their hopium on a war, they know they can't win, even if they sacrifice Balts, Poland and Finland fully to the wargod. and their only personal lose condition is if they get nuked or airstriked in Brussels. They are banking on democrat win in two years, so that they can cash in the promise that Biden gave them in 2022 of victory over Russia and war booty and looting rights. They just need to keep Ukraine standing until then and the domestic narrative in check. With clear balance between "Russia so weak, just a little more and we win" and "Russia is existential threat and vatniks will burn your homes and eat your children if we don't give gazzilion dollars to zelensky".

I have a feeling Russians will go down in history as the biggest chumps, the most mindbroken rubes of the 21st century. Despite ostensibly being among the "winners" of the cold war.

Another day, another refinery

A fire broke out at an oil refinery in the Kuban region after debris from a UAV fell onto the premises

KRASNODAR, June 28. /TASS/. Debris from a UAV fell in Slavyansk-on-Kuban in the Krasnodar Region, causing a fire at an oil refinery. The debris damaged a power line and shattered windows in one of the private homes, according to a report from the region’s operational headquarters on “Max.”
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/27864343

In other news, Putin and Lukashenko have been in closed-door negotiations for 2 days.

Putin and Lukashenko continued their talks at Valdai on June 27

MOSCOW, June 27. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin continued his talks with his Belarusian counterpart, Alexander Lukashenko, on June 27 at his residence in Valdai. Dmitry Peskov, the Russian leader’s press secretary, confirmed to TASS the reports that had appeared earlier.

“I can confirm that President Putin and President Lukashenko are indeed continuing their talks today at the Russian president's residence in Valdai,” said a Kremlin spokesperson.
https://tass.ru/politika/27863869

>>2852497
Nonsense, frontlines are effectively boggled down, even though Russia is trying to attrition Ukrainians down. Initial Euro-Ukrainian goals of destroying Russia, reparations, yadda yadda, have been replaced with "if you don't cease fire on the current front lines, we will continue to drone you!!1"

The only way for euros to win is boots on the ground in sufficient quatities to cause frontline change, which is impossible due to drone saturation. The only way for Russia to win is the same, which is also impossible. Droning doesn't work, just like bombing industries didn't work in WW2, just like Ukraine hadn't capitulated despite Russia destroying so much Ukrainian targets that they are now dropping bombs and drones on gas stations.

Realistically speaking, Ukraine is slowly becoming a no man's buffer state, where terrorism and all the fun activities will happen, Russia being unable to control it, Euros being unable to move in despite claiming alliance with Ukraine, and this shit will probably last decades.

This is the direct result of USSR dissolution. USSR roflstomped Europe and made them so fearful they bonded into NATO. Now they are feeling strong again, to the point that USA no longer has leverage over them.

By the way, geopolitics were invented by Friedrich Ratzel, the same man who invented lebensraum. To all the people claiming that geopolitics is a real science

>>2852586
The Russians didn't "win" the Cold War it's more like they got psy-opped into blowing up and demolishing their own society and were somehow naive enough to think that America and Europe wouldn't immediately put them into an imperialist chokehold once they lost their strength and ideology and became just another generic capitalist country. Putin, Chubais, Yeltsin, all of these Russian "nationalists" are the most brain dead people ever to exist in modern Russia and it was all by design because they got rid of all the smart leaders who could save their country (the communists).

>>2851877
>'one-time uses'
>turns out Ukraine weren't Nazi Germany
>they were Imperial Japan
Real Senrin hours. Who else's lives is worth the same as the price of mailing a conscription notice?

>>2852798
I don't understand how communists go along with that bullshit. Communists don't have to pretend that bourgeois geopolitics is valid to oppose imperialist wars on the countries that resist them in the slightest manner.

>>2852798
Geopolitics were invented by Marx, actually, he just didn't call it by that label.

Cope or valid analysis?

Math isn't real guys we just fucking made that shit up idiots

>>2852798
Politics & economics always must consider geography so it exists basically since forever, however modern so called geopolitics theory was basically "invented" by David Hume (Of the balance of power, 1752) and Montesquieu and it already contains all the contemporary NATO/Anglo/EUrocrat bullshit of insular, sea faring, oh so enlightened and free Great Britain supposedly defending "freedom" in the world while Russia is supposed to represent "continental despotism". After Hume Mackinder came out of the closet with his "heartland" theory which basically says that Russia must be conquered in order to become world hegemon.
This stupid UA-RU conflict lives in the minds of angloid imperialists literally since centuries. Today noone benefits of it besides the Rothschilds and similar western oligarch pricks, a couple NATO frat boys who think geopolitics is a dickwaving contest they need to win and last but not least eternally butthurt Polish imperialists who dream of Greater Rzezplzspolensdingens.

>>2852863
cope. after this russia needs to fire all their e-celeb "influencers" and start from scratch because their horrible war performance has tanked the credibility of all alt-media.

>>2852901
>because their horrible war performance has tanked the credibility of all alt-media.
You saying this after Ukraine's failed counteroffensyiv?

What's everyone's top 10 most kino moments of the war so far? Here's mine:

1. Prigozhin chimping out and launching a 1 hour coup before giving up and chilling out in Africa until Putin shot a missile at his private jet.
   
2. Scott Ritter claiming the Ukrainian military collapsed within the first week of the war
   
3. Douglas McGregor saying the war was going to end soon in a decisive Russian victory, during an interview on CNN 1 month into the war
   
4. Cucktin claiming that he only retreated from Kiev because the French asked him to
   
5. Russians With Attitude getting exposed as a group project split between a Turkish fatass living in Germany and a Russian soyboy nerd who looks like he's never done exercise in his entire life
   
6. "Spirit of Anchorage" and the relentless dicksucking that Cucktin and Kirill did to Trump
   
7. Cucktin randomly banning nationalization of privatized companies, 4 years into the war, for no reason
   
8. Cucktin's completely tone-deaf interview with Tucker, where Tucker was trying to make him sound reasonable and friendly to the West, but Putin self-sabotaged and decided to go completely off the rails and start ranting about ancient Russian/Ukrainian history back in 600AD or some shit
   
9. The Mongolian prime minister shitposting against Cucktin on Twitter by claiming all of Russia as historical Mongol lands
   
10. Ukraine trying to blow up Dugin but failing and killing his daughter instead (the only failed assassination that I ever wished Ukraine succeeded in doing, because Dugin is a mentally retarded fascist and like Cucktin would lead Russia to ruin)
    
    
    
    

>>2852798
Wrong. Geopolitics was invented by Lenon Trotsky in his '67 Work "Towards a New (National) Socialism"

>>2852882
How many "2 more weeks" inside that number?

The west cannot help but push people to the exit doors of capitalism, and I find that hilarious.

>>2852908
This war in general has exposed a lot of alt-media "journalists" as pundit fluffers.

>>2852925
I've rekt at least 10 ppl ITT and it was kino every time

Top real kino moments:

1. the ghost of kiev turned out to be a fake news. people like paul massaro still insisting it existed, people replying to him pointing him out and he replies back then with a 'exists in my mind', doubling down.
   
2. the transgender moron called himself woman ashton cirilo was probably at best verbally and psychologically abused, at worst SA, and sodomized by banderites on the front to the point of deciding to return as a cis-gender male, still calls ukraine more progressive. totally not a grifter for grifted and spooked lib public.
   
3. The star wars video showing 'destroyed Russian equipment', and all the photoedited videos, even from 2014 showing 'Russian destroyed equipment' that people fell for it.
   
4. the Crimean summer beach party in 2023 (podolyak), sponsored by nafo. 'mentally in Crimea' (budanov), and all 'Crimea will be ours' nonsense.
   
5. the 'gimme 700 tanks and I'll reach to Moscow the borders of February 23, 2022, I swear bro' nazilushny, zalushny.
   
6. the 'there's no nazis in ukraine' and zelya awards nazis, giving'em medals like candy. people mindbroken ITT retort always to an old photo of some dead guy.
   
7. the 'their kids are going to live under their homes, in the basements' crowd had to live in their basements over and over because patriots intercept 110 missiles out of 100 missiles (arestovych, zelya's presidential advisor)
   
8. the golden toilet and the mindich case: he leaves for and now lives in israel, but somehow Russia-israel relation is more concerning.
   
9. the kursk intrepid offensive that achieved nothing 🤣 (and people insist that Russia is lossing)
   
10. the mind-broken libs that are eternally salty for this thread, continuously come back to get mogged, in a ritual of fetishized humiliation.
    
    

>>2853112
when is the 2 week special military operation ending btw?

Good news from the front, comrades! Another beautiful day where Russia's world class air defense proved its worth by successfully "intercepting" Ukrainian drones with the side of two major oil refineries, one in Krasnodar and another 700 kilometers deep in Yaroslavl. Zelensky even called them "long range sanctions" geg. The resulting infernos are so majestic that Russian authorities had to temporarily close roads and airports in the region. Truly, nothing says "we're winning" like your strategic fuel processing, nearly 4 million tons a year worth, becoming a YouTube meme and a severe headache for fuel supplies to Crimea. And let's hear it for the latest strategic "victory" Russian forces, after only 1,250 more casualties in a single day (bringing the total to 1.4 million, but who's counting), have successfully secured the "gray zone" around Kostyantynivka, a city so hot that even Ukrainian drone pilots are calling it a "serious crisis". This is definitely worth the 600 square kilometers Ukraine has recaptured this year, including planting a flag on the Kinburn Peninsula after Russian troops withdrew under "intense fire".

Meanwhile, the master plan to exhaust Ukraine is working flawlessly. Russia is simply "donating" equipment so fast that Ukraine's military chief reported destroying over 88,000 Russian targets in May alone, killing 30,000 soldiers and causing over $1 billion in damage. The only "special operation" happening is the one where Russian soldiers try to figure out why Moscow has to redeploy air defenses from the frontlines just to protect the capital and Kerch Bridge from drone swarms. Absolute genius. Let us cope, comrades, the three-day operation is now entering its 1586th day of "going exactly to plan," right as Putin's approval rating faces "growing pressure".

>>2853115
show me when one high ranking officials, military, and political, of the Russian government, even serious Russian voenkors like colonelcassad, war gonzo, sasha kots, said that the SMO would last two weeks.
once. go on.
you have to invent fake deadlines to make fake wins, as usual.

obvs, the crowd int the ritual of fetishized humiliation will grab scott ritter, who's not a Russian official or politician as a gotcha, Russia lost. but of course, when top army general zalushny said that they could get back to the borders of Feb 23, 2022, with 700 tanks is ignored in their minds. or when the chief SBU intelligence officer says they are 'mentally in crimea' that means nothing, ukraine won!
NO.REFUNDS.FOR.THE.2023.SUMMER.CRIMEAN.BEACH.PARTY.TICKETS.

>>2853116
Did you have as much fun regurgitating that as you did when first consuming it?

The more quotation marks the more fun!

Sumy status? I was informed by multiple learned "Ziggers" here that Russia would capture it in 2025? Surely they didn't lie to me?

>>2852863
I've never watched any of this guy's videos but the thumbnails are funny. Dude is stressed out. He needs to get grillpilled and not worry about all this war bullshit so much or go full Rambo. At a certain point the only way to survive war is to BECOME war which those soyboy bureaucrats never understood.

>>2852925
>Prigozhin chimping out
Definitely an all-time anime moment. Reality is though that future historians will describe the Russo-Ukrainian war as the first Weeb War because of the high level of anime consumption by both sides.

>>2852925
I would add

The upcoming massive Russian advance the moment roads dried that never was

The Russia China pipeline that was to be build immediately only for China to never actually need it

The "after bakhmut there is nothing till kiev but empty fields" rhetoric

Btw, Was the stalling of ziggermobiles in the first month due to actually not planning for petrol or due to cucktin being once again fooled?

>>2853198
>the thumbnails are funny.
I’ll never understand why the algorithm has decided that you’ve gotta soyface if you want views, I’m sure grifters don’t give a shit but imagine if you’ve got a real desire to learn and inform about a serious subject and YouTube won’t show it to anyone unless you manage to pull off the obscure shocked facial expression of having your bollocks attached to a car battery but being pleasantly surprised to discover you like it.


Also Girls und Panzer is based, I’ll have to criticism in this thread of muh GUPpies

Do Russians not care about these refineries or something? Like did they calculate that repair costs and lost sales wasn't high enough to justify air defense costs?

>>2853248
It's just the nature of radar, you can't make them so sensitive that every flock of birds shows up and thus when we see strikes and it's at most 10 small-ish drones, flying individually, low and slow and therefore avoiding radar cover but obviously at the disadvantage of meaning these strikes have to be somewhat limited in size.