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 No.17849[View All]

THE PENCIL IS SHARPER THAN THE SWORD PERU ELECTIONS 6.0
Get in here

This thread is for discussion of the 2021 Peruvian Election. Looks like it's keeps beign a close one, and either one could win this. The Peruvian Left has gone far, however, and has united under a pretty based candidate. Let's watch

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 No.18424

>>18417
Contested actas just flew over my house

 No.18425

>>18412
Look at all of those successful revolutions with left-wing military coups that totally aren't at the very best not very in tune with the population or at the very worst super bureaucratic and liable to get couped by their own guys
See Velasco, Allende, Sankara, etc.
Reduces most political action to party politics (solely within the de facto vanguard), effectively rendering popular opinion moot and thus being really unstable because a couple of dudes getting pushed out or killed destroys the movement, more or less

 No.18426

>>18412
Also just free ammo for the US to call them a dictatorship and to get sanctioned even more

 No.18427

>>18425
Did Allende get in by a coup? I thought he was voted into office

 No.18428

>>18427
He was elected, and was ousted in a coup by the HECKIN' EPIC HELICOPTERINO MAN

 No.18429

>>18417
>Why yes, I am a Peruvian electoral board member, how can you tell?fedFed

 No.18430

>>18427
Voted in
>>18426
So? This happens regardless of how you get into power, you shouldn't base your policy on how the US will react. This mentality limits you immensely, what you should be focused on is how to survive the inevitable sanctions, not worrying about if your actions will cause them in the first place. Look at all the countries the US has sanctioned and look how many have survived. If anything the countries that went as soft on socialism as possible are the ones that were fucked the hardest from sanctions.

 No.18431

>>18428
A couple of days ago a local newspaper here in Peru said that it was Allende's fault Pinochet couped him and that can also happen here in Peru if Castillo doesn't 'moderate'

 No.18432

>>18415
Does this mean kekoid lost?

 No.18433

>>18432
Not yet, but her chances will always be lower than Pedro's.

 No.18434

>>18431
A lot of Chilean rightoids also use that argument. In a sense it was kind of his fault considering he didn't take the measures to adapt properly to the sanctions and internal sabotage done by business owners. Basically the entire situation was done to manufacture the political climate for a coup, and the government failed to deal with the problem.

 No.18435

>>18431
Lel. Arguably defanging himself is what gave Pinoshit free reign over Chile.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1973/aug/12/chile.fromthearchive

Look at the date.

 No.18436

>>18428
>>18427
>>18430
My b on Allende, there are more examples in Africa
>>18430
Not an argument, population will turn against you on a dime unless there is prior support, or unless you're extremely competent at implementing your policies, last bit of this is right though, you want something akin to Bolivia where the population will fight in the streets tooth and nail against US implemented dictators as opposed to being limp fish/powerless largely because the power struggle happened within the bounds of the military

 No.18437

>New Guardian article basically says "Yikes Fuji, not a good look on those fraud claims" while also mentioning her own possible corruption
Its over Keikobros…

 No.18438

>>18437
TFW when even the neo-libs are calling you out lmao

 No.18439

>>18437
Let this be a lesson to aspiring neolibs, Porky WILL NOT HESITATE to throw you to the sharks the INSTANT you stop being useful.

 No.18440


 No.18441

>>18436
How come Cuba and the DPRK have survived? By walking around eggshells to avoid American agression you're only making the situation worse, the public support will be created if you deliver better conditions for them, not by stalling and appeasing external powers. No socialist country has survived doing this, so just take the sanctions for granted and find how to deal with them. Make sure you create a strong network of friendly states which will continue to trade with you, etc, whatever must be done. I hate this mentality you are spousing, it's basically the same mentality as not doing anything in fear of feds attacking you. Without even doing anything you're castrating your movement from fear of outside actions.

History backs my arguments, no society who attempts socialism (in particular a small vulnerable country, will survive against imperialism by simply appeasing it. This reminds me of an interview with Che by an American reporter, the reporter asked him how the sanctions were affecting the country, it was structured in a way for him to give in and say yes the sanctions are decimating us. But guess what he said? He said the sanctions were hardly an obstacle and that the government were working their ass off to deal with them. This is how socialists win, by dealing with all obstacles and not avoiding them like scared weaklings.

 No.18442

>>18440

>The Nobel prize-winning Peruvian author Mario Vargas Llosa, who endorsed Fujimori’s opponents in elections in 2011 and 2016, has backed her this time because “she represents the lesser of two evils”.


My God I hate this fucker.iwwIWW

 No.18443

>>18442
He's a fucking cuck, the chad Gabriel Garcia Marquez btfos this fag, in poltiics and literature.

 No.18444

File: 1623170596032.png (441.01 KB, 857x672, india peruano vote.png)

wtf Peruanos in India

 No.18445

>>18444
>58 votes
kek

 No.18446

>>18444
>4
Literally the ambassador and his family probably

 No.18447

>>18444
The Eternal Pajeet

 No.18448

>>18442
He's a sucker.

 No.18449

>>18444
This is to be expected outside off kerala there isn't significant left wing support.

 No.18450

>>18445
I mean 4 votes I'm retarded kek

 No.18451


 No.18452

>>18451
This is ironic right?

 No.18453

>>18452
I hope it is
Fachos are mentally deranged, holy shit

 No.18454

>>18393
LMAO this is unbelievable

 No.18455

>>18441
?
I never said to appease them you cactus, I just said that a sole military coup isn't the way to go about it because unless they're incredibly competent and most of the population is perfectly alright with a very abrupt change in power, the situation will get very messy very quick, you'll get, Cuba is a little bit similar if you ignore that it wasn't a military coup at all, it was a vanguard-led war with a large amount of support from the Cuban people unpopular figure installed by the US, and the DPRK was forged right after the Japanese surrender and is wholly incomparable
Also both of these were actual revolutions with armies and were/are socialist states, which had the official backing of the Soviet Union (and China in Korea's case)

 No.18456

>>18455
Ok then what are we even disagreeing about? Coups? Whatever, the way to seize power can't be mechanically applied anywhere, it must always adapts to the conditions of the region. Besides that's one of the least important points, what matters most is keeping power.

 No.18457

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Remember to sharpen your pencils bros

 No.18458

>>18455
>>18456
What is the post of armchair quarterbacking Castillo anyway, he’s probably sweating his balls knowing his country can get couped any moment right now.

 No.18459

>>18458
Yeah as kekoids prospects for victory become slimmer the possibility of a CIA intervention gets larger.

 No.18460

>>18458
That's fearmongering, he's probably focused on winning for now. Depending on what fuckery Keiko pulls he shouldn't back down, if he wins and Keiko calls fraud he should cause the biggest ruckus so that anyone who comes to recount the votes makes sure the results are valid.

 No.18461

>>18393
Nationality larping is as bad on the lib-left as it is on the lib-right

 No.18462

>>18393
lmao that video.

 No.18463

>>18456
Military (that is, not a vanguard-let movement)coups being a viable mode to gain power, which I don't see as being possible nearly anywhere and it's been shown in places like Peru, Burkina Faso, El Salvador, etc.
>>18458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StNbbdHMXrc
I mean, we've got this, I suppose, so maybe it won't be all that bad

 No.18464

I am the anon from above

 No.18465

>>18464
What's happening in this video?

 No.18466

Aight thread's full again who wants to make the 7.0 thread

 No.18467

>>18465
Endorsement of Castillo by some of the armed forces and police lmao

 No.18468

updates are so slow now, sometimes the numbers don't even change

 No.18469

We need a new one until 100.000 lead has been secured at closing

 No.18470

>>18469
Another one for the weeklong recount

 No.18471

Is somebody gonna make a new thread or nah?

 No.18472

>>18471
Ok, give me a sec

 No.18473

I am not sharp enough edition
>>305248
>>305248
>>305248
New one


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