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>blue collar
pays like shit, leaves you exhausted, will kill you
>retail and customer-facing
pays like shit, you basically endure abuse or idiocy for eight hours a day
>pink collar and healthcare
can pay very well but the hours are insane and you also have to endure abuse constantly
>white collar work
best-case scenario, pays well, but you're still sitting through 4-hour meetings of nothing but bullshit and wasting your life away in front of a computer
i know i'm missing something because i don't understand how wagies aren't constantly miserable 90% of the time.
yes, sometimes you get a job you just inherently vibe with, or you get to work on something you're actually proud of, like you save someone's life or you help in the construction of a nice useful building
but all of that is rare. the rest of the wagies, do they just dissociate and swallow it down? is it just genuinely not that bad from their point of view?
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>>1701
And they blame the youth for turning out that way

>>1718
The current theory of “brain development “ is based more on pop culture than actual neurophysiology.

Went from blue/seasonal collar to white collar and for the first time ever i don't have to worry about income but i never felt so suicidal in my life, i can't fucking do it, i hate this job so much, i hate trying to be normal. Dying on the streets sounds better tbh

>>1665
blue collar depends if you're in a skilled blue collar job which does better than most white collar ones
retail is hell unless you enjoy the product and you're in a special niche product market
pink collar is hell
white collar depends on labor rights but it is worthless work

>>1668
There's one specific Tor user on Leftypol who types very sarcastic quips sperging out at any mention of any type of office job. You'd do best ignoring them.



 

Can't do trades. My back and shoulders are fucked from having worked in the trades. My friends in tech say it is completely jeeted and that they haven't found work in almost two years.
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im halfway into electrical engineering, i was between this and civil engineering, hope i made the right choice.

Now that I think about it and have some sense of sudden clarity, my parents have been doing really well as psych majors by offering therapy, the key is that they offer it at a lower than average rate and thus are overworked, but it seems to me that health care in general has been going up, and psychology might be the easiest "medical" field to get into. Its more or less accepted now that LLMs are poor replacement for conventional therapy

>>1649
medicine and law are always good options

>>1649

I've heard good things about the Medieval English Literature major at Montclair State University

I think more communists need to start going into manufacturing. I don't mean skilled trades, but straight up low skill assembly-line work. Usually wont require more than an associates or a certificate if even that.



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Things suck right now in Amerikkka and I can only imagine how much it will be in 2027 when I graduate High-School, I worry that with this gig-economy and AI shit going around I will never achieve my art dreams and be stuck as a Wagie.

No retirement died a long time ago. Both millenials and gen z are just doomspending on pokemon and other consoomephilia to cope.

>I will never achieve my art dreams and be stuck as a Wagie.

focus on being a starving artist at least your life will be happier

Retirement was always a bourgeois privilege.
In the old days, retirement was if you had adult grandchildren to help you run the workshop

>>1710
Retire?
uyghur, how do you even get a job? I assessed it takes at least 100 applications to get any response.
Ai is a fucking joke too. It's so useless I have to believe it's an accelerationist plot I'm not in on because there's no way the bourgeois is so stupid as to invest in it's own destruction this easily where it's unreliable word salad that can't actually do anything. Like at all… (So it's even more annoying when reddit liberals whine about ai. Like this shit isn't taking your job unless you were a cunt HR)

I managed to squeeze a single answer out of a dunkin donuts ai of when i can roughly expect a response back after applying. Couldn't list me pay averages, if wholly hires full or part time, but said applications can take several weeks to pend.

Literally two more weeks to make donuts?

>>1713
You should just steal the Pokemon cards than sell singles
It's not large enough of a theft to constitute an actual crime. No misdemeanors don't count. At absolute most someone will be like "hey you're the pokemon bandito" and that's only if you do it like several times same store at once. Even then just say the team rocket line. TO PROTECT THE WORLD FROM DEVASTATION and push a child who screams like Epstein video "I'm just a kid!!!!"



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Why is it socially acceptable if not encouraged in all political axes to hate work but it's considered blasphemous to hate school?

Why is it that whenever I ask most people what they learn in school, all they tell is the dumb shenanigans they committed, even to the point of wanting to officiate "rites of passage" based on dumb reckless childish stunts, but they cannot remember one intellectual thing?


Whenever adults are asked to help with schoolwork, their minds are blank. Whenever it comes to bullying, they have no backbone except for punishing victims for self defense.

I notice that the people who miss school the most usually are those with no work ethic or people who kinda have some unfulfilled teenage quests.

I'm not against schooling, but we need to revamp it entirely. Trying to segregate worldly factors from the classroom for the sake of "protecting the younguns" usually results in an immature society.

I believe a lot of our problems with labor and education is due to how modern society views them as parallel worlds with differing rules.

School should reflect the workforce in social treatment, type of tasks, and infrastructural design

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School serves a big factor in capitalism: it frees up women to do labor.
The increase wage pressure that comes from a doubled labor pool more than makes up for the money spent on school.

School also serves as a way of cultural homogenization, breaking up ethnicities and absorbing smaller groups into the mainstream worldview. Basic assumptions like "rich people are awesome!" or "Arbeit Macht Frei!" is drilled into the youth, leading many to adopt capitalist logic in adult life without knowing "why" it feels "right".

Also, schooling can be very unequal, and in most parts of the world it's segregated economically. The poor people's kids go to poor schools, where the poisoned social environment encourages stupidity. The people with money move to neighborhoods or pay for private schools where the other middle-class kids are, and where an environment of good behavior and (slightly better) learning takes place.
The rich kids go to school with all other rich kids for super networking.

>>350
Not true. I remember that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Learned that in skool

>>1741
You’re a minority.
It’s not just a matter of what was or wasn’t learned in school but rather if you can remember it and if it was essential to industrial affairs

>>1641
> School also serves as a way of cultural homogenization, breaking up ethnicities and absorbing smaller groups into the mainstream worldview.

This is the biggest gripe I have with schooling. It does cultural homogenization of childhood.
Children whom are ethnic, LGBT, or worldly are seen as dangerous elements.
Children are expected to conform to behavioral stereotypes based on their age

They’re not allowed to wonder about worldly things nor are they allowed to be cynical


>Basic assumptions like "rich people are awesome!" or "Arbeit Macht Frei!" is drilled into the youth, leading many to adopt capitalist logic in adult life without knowing "why" it feels "right".


I’ve never seen this in school. But, Kids are told that hard work alone gets you rich. Which leads to cult of personality.
Also kids are taught about capitalism having flaws but they’re not taught about how to look beyond capitalism

>>1641
> School serves a big factor in capitalism: it frees up women to do labor.
>The increase wage pressure that comes from a doubled labor pool more than makes up for the money spent on school.

Schools are still accused of being “underfunded” although schools get a lot of taxpayer dollars to do benchmark tests.
But if capitalists really wanted to offset the costs of schooling, why not make schools into workshops?



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>Literally put Epstein as a referral on my resume
>With a phone number that's just my number but if they call it imma pretend to be Epstein and say if they don't hire that cute fellow he's gonna eat their kids like some sorta Krampus fairy tail
>Also I'm married to Christa Pike, don't ask how that works considering she's been in prison for like 20 years. But I am in fact an ordained minister, that's completely true so there's nothing legally stopping me from marrying us because I fucking say so

Schizo dlc on capitalism gonna hit harder than warlock on diablo 2

you will actually get the job because they're afraid of you

Attached is my joke resume. I hope it lightens your day.



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Was tricked to sign a letter of resignation from my job at the russian post office. Despite the fact that I was on probation and my employment contract was fixed-term (although informally after its termination they almost always offer a full-time position) my…I don't know - supervisor? the main bitch of the workplace? didn't like me because of a couple of fuckups like a cash shortage, which I was really guilty of and paid for out of my own pocket (the statement of financial responsibility was signed by me on the first day of employment), and she decided to lie that the employee I was replacing was about to go to work.
Which was an easily verifiable lie that I realized literally as I closed the door behind me. Ah, yes, since I quit "at my own request", I have to work for three days, so called "otrabotka" (two weeks if you were taken without probation), which I will not do (devilish?), because after signing my resignation letter I am no longer an employee and can not be forced to work.
Also new thing I learned opening the labor code for the first time.
-there is no concept of working after dismissal, but there is a concept of notification before dismissal, so it should be 3 days or 2 weeks before the fact.

Thanks for reading my stupid rant.
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I finally got a new job. McDonalds, took a few applications to one location to get a call back. Did my training shift, and then got my schedule. I got three 4 hour shifts. The total pay will be less than $150 after taxes.

When I first got hired I felt some relief, finally a job, finally stable income, finally no more e-begging. But the job doesn't pay nearly enough to actually do anything with the money. My weekly rent in this motel is $364 dollars. I'm making less than half that on my current schedule.

It's hard to not feel despair at this, because I will almost certainly be street homeless within the immediate future, even with a job. And it took so long to get hired for even the most basic of jobs that finding a second one seems like it will take just as long.

If I'm street homeless, it will become especially hard to maintain my magazine/website, thankfully I have a team now who works with me and can takeover if I'm in a position to not do it, but still.

Compound that with all the internalized capitalist propaganda I still have within me, the burger flipper narrative, the "useless eater" narrative, and it's a harsh set of emotions. Really doubting myself lately, despite knowing the logic, the statistics, the theory, the feeling of being a "failure" is very strong right now. The feeling that I haven't done enough, haven't worked hard enough, contributed enough to deserve to be housed. I know its a spook, but it still haunts.

>>1564
Why not get a trade and earn real money and what is your magazine about anyway and why are you publishing a magazine when we have the Internet

Some dickhead wanted me to give him a deal on a pizza and when i said I'd get in trouble he was like "you'd be making my day" bitch I just said i could get fired

>>1591
Wait I just remembered, he said "Have you ever taken a leap of faith?"

Customer pissed me off so I'm making him wait by hanging out in the cooler



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What are the most EVIL (non-violent so; petty, cowardly..not like at least being a (((soldier))) on the frontline) 100% Legal jobs, under American Capitalism?
I think of:
>Repo Agency CEO
>Medical Debt Collector
>Pharmaceutical Lobbyist\ healthcare company negotiator (meaning; uses legal and other tactics to make CLIENTS pay more, have less benefits)
>specialised pro-landlord Lawyer\ pro-gentrification legislator
what else!!
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Pharmacist. I hate them.

>>1252
You slander agricultural proletariat. Hanging chickens is back-breaking proletarian labor

>>1707
Cop/soldier

>>397
My uncle did [UNDISCLOSED] for Lockheed-Martin and loved the book of Revelation. He was a nice man to me, but yeah I think he was pretty evil.

He had a really cool fish tank though with "The entire cast of Finding Nemo" ….escept the shark!

>>1709

The amount of casual animal abuse that happens in those facilities would astound you. There's a reason for ag-gag laws in the united states…if everyone knew what went on in slaughterhouses, then everyone would be vegetarian.



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Why does porky need some guy who can make spreadsheets and harvard 22 years to tell a 55 year old ceo to do his job with a powerpoint? and then make that guy a middle manager after he leaves mckinsey?
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>>160
its several things
-rubber stamping
-status signaling
-self soothing

>>160
Undoubtedly there will be someone in the comments who will make a bad argument as to why
Y'all act like Siberia is for shit posting when clearly labor should be renamed into wagie cagie or labor aristocracy

Storytime: I was hired as a consultant.
It was a staffing agency that called everyone a consultant for the reputation.

From 1950 to 1980, manufacturing went from all in 1 roof to sub assemblies with interchangeable parts to minimize the impact of labor unions.

From 2010 to 2035, all online labor will move over to contracting to avoid certain labor laws and to hot swap staff in the event of unionization.

>>1596
Get back into your wage cagie labor aristocrat.

One of my gigs is as a "consultant." A trained monkey could do this and it's the highest paying gig I've ever had ($36/hr) but I only do it part-time.



 

>gov't subsidizes student loans
>colleges jack up tuition prices
>outsource jobs anyway

The only power they have is scarcity. Employers do everything they can to eradicate that scarcity through immigration and outsourcing, so employees retaliating with collective action is fair game.
It's all just a big brawl between interests, there's no "real" equilibrium, and treating it as justified when one side does it but unfair when the other does makes you a fucking retard
fucking retarded

>>1655
college isnt even a guarantee of that anymore, even the "useful" majors like CS or business are becoming useless you are the top of the class or have connections



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I've gotten ghosted by two employers before even reaching the phone interview stage. What the fuck even is the US job market at this point? Both were jobs I'm very well qualified for and don't even paying a living wage. Why the fuck would you reach out to me to schedule an interview and then never confirm a time? Are they fucking punishing us? Is this a humiliation ritual?
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>>1647
they are worse because you need to convince 5-10 people instead of just one person

Just completely bombed a second round job interview I faked my way into.

They all say fake it until you make it but sometimes you until fake it until you meet a hiring manager who is actually competent. This job would have basically made up for all my life failures up until this point and put me on the same level as my peers.

Now I am doomed.

>>1711
>This job would have basically made up for all my life failures up until this point and put me on the same level as my peers.
I doubt that. But my condolences and welcome to the failure club.

Its just a consequence of alienation. Employees are objectified and seen as replaceable parts so they give two shits if what theyre doing is reprehensible or hurts your feels.

>>1712
No, it actually was a FAANG-tier job in my industry. Now it doesn't even matter.



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