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thoughts on militancy in labor unions?
Like no bs you give us a raise or your dead boss man.
werent the teamsters backed by the mafia?
Not sure if that was just extorting unions though.
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>>732
So apparently Marx when it came to the Irish claimed that they drove wages down. He also argued that the most dire effect was in dividing (due to chauvinism, and material concerns) the working-class stifling their ability to organize together against their oppressor. He called this "the secret of the impotence of the English working class." They also dip into the literature and emphasize that being undocumented significantly depreciates wages, among other things.

https://monthlyreview.org/2017/02/01/marx-on-immigration/

Normalize kneecapping scabs again tbqhdesu

>>729
>it's expenses that are rising
When expenses rise all classes are affected, read Marx please.

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>>717
Every compromise you make is just a betrayal against the self
Take me for example. I was so impressed with the takedown of 4chan i legitimately thought soyjak party could listen to reason. We'd prove mods just don't need to exist and I'd introduce beareaucratic socialism to them to ween them off the drug of transhumanist janny tyranny where like
>you just delete posts not ban
>someone oversees you before you delete the post and/or you pay crypto to permit the post deletion

Instead, i get jannied and defamed while so. Of course i do. All mods need a bat to the head. There's no reasoning with them, no bargaining, no prioritizing. That's how you have to face all challenges is a fucking bat until the thing against you stops moving

Mafia involvement in unions made them less effective, not more effective. The mafia are among the most bloodthirsty and reactionary cross-section of the petty bourgeoisie and lumpenproletariat. They take over unions in order to give their sons "no-show" jobs, spy on the labor movement for the FBI in exchange for reduced sentences for horrible crimes they did, and in general skim union dues for their coke and hooker habits. Cosa Nostra are scumbags who will kidnap and rape your daughter and then turn her out as a hooker. They're the worst of the worst. A lot of Mafia guys were pro Italian fascism. And they're in bed with the worst crooks in the film industry which constantly pumps out shitty media to make them look relatable and cool.

I wouldn't be surprised if mafia infiltration of unions was a long term goal of the intelligence apparatus in the US state in order to ruin the reputation of unions by associating them with organized crime.

Listen to these deconstructions of union depictions in Hollywood movies


https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/ep-164-labor-union-depictions-in-hollywood-part-i-from-demonized-to-ignored-or-mafia-plot-cliche

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/ep-165-labor-union-depictions-in-hollywood-part-ii-the-rare-pro-worker-narrative



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ITT we root out the NEET in us all with 3am ice baths, pushups and spend all day getting ready.

Thread for high performance, high productivity uberproles only. Get wage, make training, get educumacated, get crunk.
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RISE AND GRIND FUCKBOYS WE GOT MONEY TO MAKE

How do you convince yourself that the epidemic of NEETDOM is not inherent to the system itself? We ostracize youth from society by putting them in dormitory communities where they will be raised by small and often fragile communities away from any space where they can socialize properly, constantly have to see children moved around from place to place throughout their education killing off any bonds they form with their community around them, and then suddenly bombard them with an endless chore list (sometimes literal) of responsibilities they have to fill out ALONE until they die just to be considered a functioning adult, and then bombard them with even more demands for work that ask of them to take care of their employers despite having zero experience and sometimes even training about whatever career they were likely forced to pursue over their own interests?

There is never a clear point where anybody is meaningfully supported to grow into a mature adult in our society that demands more of them. People like Cyraxx and asmongold don’t exist in a vacuum. They’re created and left to grow in numbers. Barely any parenting, barely any government support, barely any reaffirmation from peers, constant competition, and an endless sludge fest of consumer garbage to infantilize people in mass and were wondering why there are so many man children these days.

>>710
>Fragile communities away from any space where they can socialize properly.
Hadn't heard such a position before.
Guess it's basically restricted to lunch, halls, and "extracurriculars".
And they obviously fade away, because they're assembled on a purely temporal basis.

>Bombard them with an endless chore list to be considered an adult.

Not sure this is really so much of an issue.
There simply are many things one needs to do.

>Zero experience and sometimes even training about whatever career […] over their own interests.

This seems to me to be the crux of the matter.
If there was something one enjoyed doing which happened to make money there wouldn't be a problem at all.
There's clearly a problem in presenting and developing these opportunities.

>>716
We don't raise kids into adults.
We just force them to do idle busywork with no worldly training.
There's no classes for financial education, home cooking, basic home repair, etc.

Society think academic skills are the ultimate replacement for common sense, social skills, and blue collar skills.



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ITT we share protips to help struggling proles save money and shaft recurring plundering payment porkies

>fuck the phonebill by getting a prepaid fixed minute plan

>always periodically call ur interner provider threatening them to leave for better deals
>never buy new cars insurance rates are a scam on them
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>>432
>Create a fake business and open new checking accounts that give you $$$ for direct deposits

Along the same lines, work as an independent contractor or self employed if you can and then you can write off your normal daily expenses for taxes by claiming them as a business expense.

All thats needed to fend of the IRS leeches is some bs paperwork proving it was a business expense. And save some extra money from the taxes youre saving on in the future. That way if you ever do get audited, you can buy a fancy lawywer to fend off the leeches. In the end you'll still be net positive depriving defenseporkies of your tax dollars, be a true a patriot and avoid your taxes.

>>431
Also pay the statement balance on the credit card every month to avoid interest. Never pay the minimum only as they rape you with taxes on that. You can pay the full balance if you have the money, but theres no real additional benefit over paying the statement balance.

If you ever get hit with a fee, call the fucks and threaten to cancel the card and theyll usually waive it. Ive had 100s waived in fees and interest before if you just act like you forgot to check.

>>432
Also learn how to do basic maintenance and repairs yourself and you can save a few hundred. Its not hard to change fluids, just get those fucking car ramps and some jack safeties and unscrew the drain plug, change the oil filter and top-off. There are manuals for your car you can find online to help.

Mechanics dont do anything special and half the time they fuck up more than they do a proper job. Just do it yourself.

Or if youre in an area with low/slow car traffic get a scooter. My insurance for the scooter is literally 35$ for the YEAR.


>>434
>Along the same lines, work as an independent contractor or self employed if you can and then you can write off your normal daily expenses for taxes by claiming them as a business expense.
Only works in burgerstan maybe. Here being an indipendent contractor is a way for businesses to fuck you over harder.

>>432

Okay Tyler durden



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Are universities just glorified capitalist labor camps? How can people not see the obvious corruption and collusion with the bourgeoisie. They merely serve as supplies of labor reserve armies and even stemlords cant get jobs easy now.

Will communists eliminate these rotten institutions?
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>>554
>Fortunately this isn't really the case, but if it is it's exactly the problem.
It's to the extent to which they're non-industrial that they're able to create beyond the myopic views of industry.
If it did serve industry, industry would need to reinvent it as something separate from it.

On the individual level it's this non-industrial attitude gives freedom, and with it meaning to the enterprise.
What meaning can there be in a world in which decisions are made by an impersonal dictatorial force.
When will we escape the totalitarian logic of rationality, of economics, and be free.

"They give more agency to the markets than they do to themselves"

>>564
This anti-industrial attitude is exactly what university promotes and they create excess laws to bar youth from industrial affairs
That's what creates the short sighted view of how the world works

This whole "industriality is the opposite of the arts" is a common marketing tactic

>>529
That's actually working class adults who think that

>>383
I will never get tired of posting this Engels letter. The whole thing is revealing but this sentences is my favorite:
>> The biggest obstacles are the small peasants and the importunate super-clever intellectuals who always think they know everything so much the better, the less they understand it.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_21.htm

>>539
>Unemployment is still low
Official stats are fake, real unemployment is very high.



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how does one go about getting a job as a carnie? a traveling fair person? a worker who works at one of these? I had a one night stand (well two night) with a chick who did this, so i know it's still a viable thing

how to vaudvillemaxx in 2025?
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>>515
how to get carnie poon, tell us ur secrets bro

Humblebrag thread.

You could invest in a ride and truck it to festivals, otherwise you need connections because I imagine they're petty bourgeois so they wouldn't really hire random people off the street unless they were desperate, maybe you could just try go to a carnival an talk to some carnies

was she hot tho?

lol if youre going to be a petit bourgeois at least get a job that pays well

LeftyPol not beating the allegations made against leftism



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I slam the door. I take these drugs! I go to the mental hospital! I am in the garage. The boat in texas. Getting jumpin in by a bunch of black people. MS gay teen. I slam my head on the table. 4/5/2025

Ok

Schizo

Sounds like a Death Grips song



 

/finesse/ general

Tips of stretching the dollar, getting one over on the small business owner, etc

Tips for working to rule/stealing time, finessing free food, side hustles and quick cash, etc without fucking over your fellow worker

I clock in late then clock out early.

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secure yourself a sinecure then do a 2nd job while clocked into your sinecure

>>510
only works for techbros that can get remote jobs



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Seeking good contract language protecting political activity and speech to reduce the risk of getting fired over being a communist or anti-zionist. My workplace is majority anti-zionist Jewish people with a plurality of reds. A handful of zionist and rightoid pricks really hate that fact and keep trying to wield management against us and call in outside zionist orgs for backup because our existence fucks with their messaging that all Jewish people support Israel.
We're in the US and I expect the attempts at purging leftists to get worse in the future. Any good examples of protections we could copy? Also, general suggestions on things to definitely fight to have in our contract are welcome.

To make it more clear: we're unionized and almost done forming the bargaining committee and starting negotiations. There's strong buy-in from members for political protections because even the resist lib types are scared of getting retaliated against these days.


rape is bad because it's not corrective violence. it's just gooners taking advantage of a sitaution



 

Im a man and I DO consider myself, really, very manly. But I genuinely suffer daily, or extended angst, because my "material conditions of existence" don't allow me to ,not even TRY OUT FOR, extreme manly lifestyles….
Special unit active-War soldier, SWAT team member\SORT member, or even mma\bluhurt\rugby amateur player. non-violent yet extreme jobs like Underwater Welder, altitude rescue\medicine missions. etc
WTF Am I supposed to do? i changed and suited my whole lifestyle to be manlier: diet, sleep pattern, exercise type, so on.
>inb4 being a rEAl Man is about being a (((householder)))
No. Im Celibate.

Goon or jack off or whatever

Dont fall for that psyop unless you want lifelong joint pain. Judt be average eith some muscles

you literally cant become "alpha" or "chad" or "le real man" the second you start getting all insecure and fretting over if you got the sauce or not. A so called real men doesn't question if he is one cause he just knows that shit already and doesn't feel a need to question it or prove it others.



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Do you consider certain jobs off-limits, for youself or in general from the perspective of a leftist or for personal reasons, such as military, the defense industry, banks, maybe even the meat industry or the work in capitalist governments?

Do you think that there is a point in entryism into those spaces?

Do you judge people based on the profession they chose, independent of their personal circumstances or do you take that into account even if it's probably? Is there a difference if you are talking to someone who 'should know better' i.e. is a self-styled class- or otherwise politically conscious person?

Should a leftist who can't afford or sustain to be a 'professional revolutionary' seek out professions that seek to 'ameliorate' the worst effects of capitalism, like social work, teaching etc.?

Or is just obsessing over the ethics of one's job just moralist lifestylism, akin to 'ethical consumerism' and basically 'anything goes' since the profanition is considered absolute?


What are your thoughts on these points?
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>>390
idrc

>as long as I am paying my party membership dues?

yeah joining some reformist party is par for the course for your types

>>391
What if it's a radical party that even is kind of spicy (like being observed by intelligence services for having contacts to what the government considers foreign actors and 'antagonist governments')

>>392
sounds just as impotent lol, you think proletarians associate over ideas and not necessity?

>>393
You think there is no necessity for radical political parties?

>>388
what's the actual real answer according to you?



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