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Unban me and restore the post. It isn't an idpol pic but a MOCKERY of radlibs inserting idpol, a la OP's schizotake conflating romantic & platonic love. Criticizing liberal takes about "oh they're male friends? Nah they're totally gay" is cancerous first world fujoshit. If the OP has the right to make make such provocative idpol claims, then I have just as much right to contest their idiocy. Or you should not play favorites and lock the thread for being idpol to begin with, rather than banning me for engaging in a thread that you permitted to stay up. Don't be hypocritical.
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>SQLSTATE[42S22]: Column not found: 1054 Unknown column 'ip' in 'where clause' Also why the fuck did you ban me across the site with 0 warning? I can't even appeal in /meta/ because of it and the ban appeal system is still borked you clods, so I can't even go through the proper channels and have to use Tor. Zankaria when are you gonna fix the ban appeal system!? It's been an issue that's been brought up before, including in regards to mistaken bans.
>inb4 /pol/ or some dumb shit I'm the OP of the Naval thread in
>>>/AKM/ as well as more effort posts than I can even remember that people still use. I'm by far no "homophobe" or what have you, and I certainly don't post constantly about identity politics or culture-war shit, in fact I am heavily against such and loathe it.
>>34245stop thinking, drink the corn syrup
ps. mods ban ALL tor users pls thanks
>>34243>>34244Anon, I also exist outside of leftypol.
Patches are always welcome.
>>34252I still don't understand why it is, but I have a lead.
Spoiler: it ain't gonna be fixed anytime soon. Worst case scenario I have to fuck around with the backup scripts.
And you don't fuck around with your lifeboats.
>>34256you fucked up the code with the auto maintenance commits
smh my damn head
>>34262I think it's time mods start deleting themselves
Their line, policy and management is the source of most of the problems
>>34248You know how I said this yesterday and now you have a very familiar poster having a meltdown (isg btw). I just think that's funny.
gl hf
>>34266Don't know which thread you're referring to, but on a related note…
Meanwhile this bourgeois sex predator power fantasy thread of raping immigrant tenants has been bumping for over a month btw: >>>/siberia/546328
<But it's "porn" (American creep daydreaming about taking ownership of prostitutes that he donates to daily that live-stream from Yankee neo-colony Colombia) tho, so therefore it's automatically fine and if you disagree you're a prude! This is what communism is about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .t leftypol glowmods >>34266There's a cyclical, + r9k-ism is essentialist and chauvanist in nature.
You aren't owed romance, nor sex, nor should that bother you. Romance emerges from friendship and comradery.
it's lightning in a bottle, it's not guaranteed, you should cherish it, but it's absence isn't deserving of grief.
>>34267>Don't know which thread you're referring toThe one where the guy was venting about being depressed due to ugliness and consequent unability to attract women it had that gondola pic in OP.
>>34268Wow, thats an interesting opinion you have there, if only there was a thread where we could discuss it further.
>>34285All in for Kamala except for the people who arn't their job is to educate Trumptards, all in but be openly realistic possibility that once elected she might turn on Palestine, that's the entryist line.
When the disssapointment arrives pull these people left with your sheer accuracy.
And if peace arises, as unlikely as it us, entryist pull outs will be harder, but hey peace in our time. That's good too.
>>33978Shoulda kept this to yourself
Another reason to push your shit in
See this as a teachable moment instead of your usual programming
>>34298What
>>34309 said. I saw your username and could tell that it wasn't a bot, but it accidentally ended up getting into the purge list yesterday, so you will need to recreate your account.
>>34252Good news: I managed to capture the HTML in the error. It's a cloudflare error page reporting a 504 Gateway Timeout.
So yeah it's basically certain it's the backup system locking the database. Php tries to write to it but since the backup system is too slow it times out
Requesting
>>>/anime/25721 be moved to either
>>>/anime/25476 (the Best NGE girl thread) or into
>>>/anime/590 The Evangelion thread.
>>34335>"who cares?"<spending all this time whining about someone requesting to move a thread<lurking on meta to talk about someone requesting a thread merge Apparently you care, since you're so asshurt about a simple request that you can't stop whining.
>MOVE LE THREAD WHERE I WANT NOWWWTake meds schizo.
>>34336>lurking i just use overboard
>meds schizohe literally asked for it i dont get what you're saying
>>34339LMAO I meant that we could have a seperate NGE waifu thread, from the main one, we just didn't need 2 different waifu threads for NGE ON TOP of the main thread. Thanks, but if you could maybe fix it (sorry I know it's a bit of a pain in the ass, I mean well!). I should have been clearer and have
>>>/anime/25476 remain its own separate thread.
>>34360>I'm doing great since I'm no longer involved with you.Honey, you are
definitely still involved with them.
>>34363You're here right now. You can't let go. If the mods didn't live in your head, you could leave at any time.
Buy you're here right now, just like you were yesterday. Too weak to move forward with your life.
I guess because we are back at this point (I don't know why you are so interested in what I do). This was my stance before. I have since changed my stance and I think it would be a good thing to shut down Tor as it is. But that's my own personal stuff, I'll deal with it.
>>34364You are the one playing the bad guy now and I am the victim. But when you were the victim you had no dignity at all. Still don't. Well, let me show you.
>>34373Whether or not you are serious. I don't have anything to leak but then I would say that.
Allow me to continue my musings. I have never made an aggressive move first. Not ever, it is not part of who I am. I watched over this place. Now I observe what happens after me.
>>34374Plz start a blog thread in
>>>/siberia/ or go to leftychan instead of posting in muh complaints thread?
>>34375Lemme think about it but this is traditionally where discussion of this nature takes place.
The first suggestion obviously, not the second.
>>34378Do you really expect an answer when I don't know who you are. That's silly. Besides this is a public space. Oh, how I tried to beat disciplined handling of information into people.
Lol all nostalgic and shit
>>34379>Do you really expect an answer when I don't know who you areWe spoke last year through matrix.
>Besides this is a public spaceWhat have you got to lose?
>>34380Do you think that narrows it down?
>What have you got to lose?Again, I have always taken the rules of propriety as far as they would take me. It was always my enemies, such as they are, who have broken them.
>>34398All the pages should have been rebuilt by now. Try restarting the browser to clear the cache.
Else, could you link which page is giving you issues?
>>34403So it's even lower priority.
Time to look at the DB then.
>>34412Spam on this site has always come from persistent users hopping between VPNs. Flood detection and temporary bans are as effective for TOR as they are for clearnet. The purpose of a TOR captcha would therefore be to increase the time the spammer takes in between posts.
The only thing the current "captcha" does is to reject non-standard browser configurations (
https://github.com/javapuppteernodejs/cloudflare-captcha-solver). For an actual captcha, the threat model that needs to be accounted for on this site is captcha solving addons in a standard browser, one of which already exists for hcaptcha (
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hektcaptcha-hcaptcha-solv/bpfdbfnkjelhloljelooneehdalcmljb).
>>34413> Spam on this site has always come from persistent users hopping between VPNs. Flood detection and temporary bans are as effective for TOR as they are for clearnet. The purpose of a TOR captcha would therefore be to increase the time the spammer takes in between posts.Disco already tried that, and it makes the node unusable. Lower it and mght as well not have it, increase it and the node is unusable at peak hours.
> A README which doesn't even support your claim with a cupon for a sketchy service and an abandoned browser extension with bad reviews.Truly impressive
>>34416>increase it and the node is unusable at peak hours.The obvious alternative to rate limiting is increasing the time each post takes (see the cuckflare implementation below). PBKDFs fullfill the same purpose for password logins.
>>A README which doesn't even support your claimThe relevant part is literally copied from the cloudflare website:
<Turnstile delivers frustration-free, CAPTCHA-free web experiences to website visitors - with just a simple snippet of free code. Moreover, Turnstile stops abuse and confirms visitors are real without the data privacy concerns or awful user experience of CAPTCHAs.Anyone with a non-hardened browser and enough VPNs can exploit this system. Cloudflare provides an option with a timer as well (challenge5s), but you can easily roll your own without the browser checks.
>abandoned browser extensionI found a dozen of these and none for the securimage script .net uses. Even if all of them are fake, you still haven't shown how a spammer can solve the alternative more easily.
>>34434We can be sure that poster is toxic. We can also reasonably assume they are in the "mod team". Then again, the poster could just be making stuff up. I'd rather not think I have known them.
Anyway, take a look at
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/559922.html#561230 etc.
and siberia in general
>>34435That's newgene. Please be mindful not to engage him. Everywhere he makes the place worse. This should be an easy one.
>>34455>There is literally like less than 12 human beings who post on this website Doubtful claim
>yet the mods ban half of them.Whilst there is significant mod abuse and bullying of regular users (mostly directed by pasqual btw) due to whatever mental health shit is going on with these terminal online freaks, I think thry tend to obsess over a few people at a time. That is to say, sure they're probably targeting and banning you over some internal nonsense but that very likely isn't the experience of the vast majority of users.
>and hoping they jump VPNsI doubt most is going to this effort. At most one will use the tor node to abuse the jannies for a little. Having a VPN setup with a bunch of services one either buys or sets up just to avoid bans again and again is nor behaviour anyone but the severely obsessed is going to take.
>>34471not really. all the "anti-campist" (pro nato) posts are low quality bait, be in the short and open format, or the nonsense ai-assisted text walls
mods won't do anything because they are americans and, in a weird sense, they want to do to the user base what the democratic party does to them. or they simply don't care
>>34468best thing you can do is pretend this site is just another 4chan board
>>34472Yes I've never seen those 'anti campist' faggots ever make an argument, an post longer than a paragraph but rarely a sentence, the biggest intellectual attempt they made across multiple threads was to post a picture of trade %'s and tried to gaslight newer, younger users into thinking imperialism is when trade.
Most of them are bad faith actors very obviously and people like mofin wouldn't be able to get away with the kind of paternalistic western chauvinism and orientalism he constantly spouts if he wasn't on friendly terms with mods.
>(saged)MODS = GODS>>34481That first post was retarded sperging, historical illiteracy, especially the nazi bit. Didn't address the central argument either.
Dude got so worked up and hysterical he forgot no one mentioned nazis.
>But chyna isn't AESDon't care, take it to /prc/
>>34485>But anyway leftypol only even exists because people found literal neo-nazis on 8chan more tolerable than fucking radlibs so it makes sense you would ban and sage people for opposing the slaughter of proles/leftypol/ founded by 4chan /lit/ posters. After they were told to fuck off on /pol/ (both full and halfchan). Several breadtubers originated from /leftypol/s early days (including Muke/Xexizy)
>support eastern porky because eastern proles are basically automaton bugman that blindly support their rulers anyway Your words.
The rest is drivel not worth replying to.
>>34485>russia has a bourgeois class and a reactionary state>therefore it would be better if the russian workers were exploited not only by their locals, but also by the western bourgeoisie and reactionary stateimagine how the chinese revolution would have gone if instead of allying with the kmt against the warlords (and then momentarily against japan), mao had said "that's actually western chauvinism" (
???)
how did the communist parties and worker organizations fare in the eastern european countries under nato control? what parties were banned in ukraine after the 2014 coup? it is almost as if being under imperialism only increases anti-worker repression
and all of this is meaningless because you (I assume) are from a western country - you are supporting your local bourgeoisie yourself by contributing to their consent manufacturing with the militant anti-russian rhetoric. it would be a useless position if it wasn't straight up counter-productive
<For the Socialist of another country cannot expose the government and bourgeoisie of a country at war with “his own” nation, and not only because he does not know that country’s language, history, specific features, etc., but also because such exposure is part of imperialist intrigue, and not an internationalist duty. >>35067 (me)
here:
>I saw that some posts have the (You), but this is a recent problem, I have never had this problem switching between the VPN and my regular IP.I meant to say, there are (You) posts that I didn't do, but that never happened before the shutdown.
some examples of posts with (You) I haven't done:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1931385.html#q1943545https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1931385.html#q1943125https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1943000.html#q1943557 >>35069 (me)
>>35067 (me)
The problem is that you banned a legit IP I have, without the VPN, probably conflating the VPN one with my regular one because I was carelessly switching the VPN with the regular IP I have because this was not a problem before.
>>35070
well, I am trying appealing the ban, because this secondary, for emergency uses only, is slow as fuck, and I it's boring to upload even a single picture, never mind videos I regular post for the /ukr/ thread. If I have to be careful from now on, good, I will switch back to the original and legit IP after visiting X, and press F5 in the thread to avoid confusion, but I need to appeal the ban somehow, because the cunt who got banned under the rangeban already made the appeal.
>>34481>404Neither of these things exist, so, idk, try again i guess?
>>34482>We do make arguments, you just ignore them, though.Links then?
Provide or stfu your crying.
>>35104 (me)>>35103also where is the fucking trip you're supposed to use janny? did the mods take advantage of the /meta/ thread wipe to get rid of that rule?
who is posting this?
>>35380? last time I checked they had the same unhinged line of
>hey russian users, why don't you join these telegram groups were we talk about homemade explosives and local pipelines?notice that nato is participating in multiple wars but there are no telegram channels for that in the OP. imagine if I posted a telegram with "bomb experts" but for the us/europe. I would get a (deserved) rule 3 ban, even when that is more understandable than that same useful idiot terrorism but in a third world country fighting against nato expansion
the fact that they are allowed to openly harass and gaslight anyone that tries to point out these facts is also on-brand with dot net. if it isn't the same people, they are very similar, and the more they are allowed to do, the more this site looks like that site
>>35496That was the satire part, a "grammar nazi". I don't see what other joke would work.
Though I guess rule 14) b) would apply since it has to
generalize a group of people (those dedicated towards outing other people's spelling errors) and falsely defame them in satire. Moving on then.
>>35518>it's also a little misguided to say that Israel "is the biggest lobby" as there are many other bigger groups of interest playing a role in the US govtok so name them instead of banning me?
since when is being "misguided" a bannable offense?
>>35518I fucking hate the ZOG posting and am happy something is being done about it, but you can't just claim this like it is self-evident. What lobbies are bigger?
Oil? The oil industry itself is an instrument of the U.S. government to exert economic pressure. It is private only in so far as the bourgeois play ball.
The MIC? Propped up by tax dollars, and deeply infiltrated by the U.S. military. They are inseparable.
So, what lobbies, external to the U.S. government, exert more influence over geopolitics through the U.S. government?
>>35525And that’s a good thing
Rather have communist mods on the communist imageboard than a bunch of pomo radlib nationalists
>>35534the israel lobby is the most influential lobby in america, pretty much every single elected politician is in the pocket of aipac and the few of those that don't receive public aipac money (like AOC) are crypto zionists who still vote for pro-israel bills (see: iron dome funding), antizionism is literally a crime in 37 (and growing) states
zionists are not just "THE JEWS", the majority of them are christians
there are zionist jews and anti-zionist jews
again, i'm not going to change how i write because (You) have a hard not replacing "zionist" with "jew" mentally every time you read one of my posts, i'm not an anti-semite no matter how many times you call me that or give me a bullshit ban
>>35535 (me)
>have a hardhave a hard time*
>>35540>If you look at the outage thread, the whole reason why they even had to put in the hard work of moving over to Cloudflare was because of the threats from campists.I am not sure where that idea comes from but it's not correct. We used cloudflare for years both as a caching system to improve performance and to preemptively defend the webside against DDoS attacks and hacking attempts.
>I would imagine they're also the goreposters. There was one such case in the first /anti-campist/ threads, but that poster was dealt with weeks ago.
>>35577it's only another
attention whore namefag
>>35606I though wdtmbt was a twitterism/tumblrism that 4than eventually picked up?
Either way it seems like the issue is debate addiction, not what specific venue you get your fix from.
>>35607No, but i know even they would be embarassed.
>>35608>Either way it seems like the issue is debate addiction, not what specific venue you get your fix from.Honestly i'd rather be 'jakked by these people. I think a core component of what makes imageboard discussions worthwhile, is that anyone can just decide to throw insults at you, so at any time there is a decision between
seemingly good faith discussion and clearly baiting or losing your shit. The problem is we have lost the explosive mixture of thick-skinned, intelligent users, edgy memers and imaginative baiters, or the people who were all of those.
>>35606>I hope you didn't need me to add /s to understand the last post.My guy, this is an imageboard. We were always already in a poe trap.
>>35608wdtmbt is a /leftypol/ 2015 original. Used unironically in its full length, then used ironically through mockery.
>>35623>It's become abundantly clear that this board, due to the upcoming election, has been captured by pro-DNC forces who have an itchy trigger finger to ban anyone who criticizes Kamala or the Democrats' policies and platformlmaoooooo you must be new
thanks for the laughs!!
>>35645yes I'm something of a puritan when it comes to bestiality porn aimed at children. Aren't you? It shouldn't be on my left political imageboard. I interact with families whose heads are one tiny push away from communist thought. How do you think they would view cartoon bestiality porn as it relates to their sons and daughters? inb4 idgaf
>kill yourself, genuinelyyou're making me feel unsafe
>>35646>>35644The content has been spoilered it, but I do not believe it expressly violates Rule 1 (see below), and it will remain up:
>"1) Anyone posting child pornography, child modelling or who attempts to challenge this rule (e.g. 'this is technically legal') will be permanently banned. Their information will be forwarded to relevant legal authorities."The content in my opinion is definitely strange and Agent Kochinskiitte, I don't disagree with you there Anon. However I don't allow my personal feelings to interfere in my volunteerism on the site, and instead referred to previous examples of moderation and the rules. While the location is implied to be a school, it's not necessarily depicting molestation of a younger audience, the age difference is unclear and it would appear they're depicted as adult women.
>I interact with families whose heads are one tiny push away from communist thought. How do you think they would view cartoon bestiality porn as it relates to their sons and daughters?Not sure why'd they be browsing this incredibly niche 'Chan, but your concern is still rational and warranted. It is my personal and non-moderator opinion that you use this website to communicate with like-minded developed Leftists, per the website's intentions, instead of directing them to this website for initial Leftist introduction and expected them to retrieve serious Leftist developments. Doing this may ultimately confuse them more instead of bringing them to our cause. Not to rag on you, but I personally would recommended wiki.leftypol.org,
May She Be Remembered And Her Recovery Speedy, marxists.org, or even libcom.org.
>>35645Have respect for your peer netizens, this Anon's critique is in good taste.
>>35648
>Why exactly do we have porn at all on an ostensibly communist website
Well first and formost, it's to my knowledge /leftypol/ is an imageboard first and communist website second, and I think this is established clearly under the homepage:
>"Leftypol is an imageboard where users can post anonymously."
>[then]
>"We engage in both serious political discourse and informal discussion on various topics related to leftist thought."
Porn's been on the website to my knowledge.. Forever, ever since the 8chan days, and what would an internet be without it. Afterall, among the first recorded transactions on the internet was buying weed, the internet's been riddled with sin ever since its inception. I believe it's important this website maintains its roots as a imageboard first over a stackoverflow design, and if you're not looking for that, I would suggest seeking out r/Communism.
>let alone obvious child-lure content (stuff that is allegedly for adults but made bright and colorful and quirky to attract mentally ill kids)
You know kids that whackoff to Horse-Futa-Teacher-Punishment porn? I remember growing up starting out on the Hardcore shit of porn, pretty confident this style of porn is anything but what you're describing. You could make a case for JUULs or TikTok dances, but there's nothing cryptic about the message in what you attached, it's mostly clearly some weird fetish. If you're not comfortable browsing this material, simply don't visit the /siberia/ board.
>>35647>It is my personal and non-moderator opinion that you use this website to communicate with like-minded developed Leftists, per the website's intentions, instead of directing them to this website for initial Leftist introduction and expected them to retrieve serious Leftist developments.There's nowhere else online for people to
become developed. fwiw I mentioned families and heads of families because they recently mobilized in (small) numbers here to remove their kids access to cartoon porn in municipal locations. Working class mothers and fathers actually mobilized IRL over this shit. They can live with weed or porn but they actually mobilized (successfully) over fetish cartoon porn being available to kids. They correctly identified that shit like that would negatively affect the normal sexual development of anyone exposed to it. btw would a non cartoon bestiality thread be allowed on /leftypol/?
>>35651>There's nowhere else online for people to become developed.I disagree, but to preface, Leftism should be developed through independent study, and literature, through theory or instructors, whether in videos or speeches or books, but it shouldn't be spoon-fed. The resources are abundant online, see reddit or libcom.org or marxists.org, but it is up to the audience to apply these principles into their and adopt them. Leftism is not an emotion, it's a science to uncover a better cultural and economic way of living to advance humanity and unshackle chains.
> fwiw I mentioned families and heads of families because they recently mobilized in (small) numbers here to remove their kids access to cartoon porn in municipal locations.> They correctly identified that shit like that would negatively affect the normal sexual development of anyone exposed to it.Yeah that's crazy, but the family should have had stronger firewalls or limited internet accsess. This is most definitely not our problem, /leftypol/ is obviously not intended for young children.
>btw would a non cartoon bestiality thread be allowed on /leftypol/?I would highly doubt it.
>>35646Yeah man, I totally believe you have convinced anyone. Let alone by showing them /leftypol/! What were you even thinking throwing that argument in there?
>waaaaahh why won't anyone think of the children>you're making me feel unsafeGood, reactionary scum like you should feel unsafe.
>>35647>>35649>this Anon's critique is in good tasteIt is retarded on its face, and the later posts expose this cunt for being disingenuous. Don't be a gullible mook and strung along by thinly veiled concern trolling.
For fucks sake one is babbling about something being "bright and colorful" as being a "lure" to "attract mentally ill kids". These people are beyond reason. Don't waste your time.
>>35651>There's nowhere else online for people to become developed.Lmao what?! This place has naturally formed from people who quarantine themselves from coherent material
You guys are just pond scum
>>35762>or use the fuccing report buttonWe do you fucking spastic.
How about reading them instead of ERP'ing with your matrix buddies or WTF.
>>35665>freaky or generally irresponsible Thank you for the compliment.
>love to scold people for not hermetically sealing their children away from them, LOL if you think not letting a kid on the internet is "hermetically sealing them away", bad trolling.
>>35767>>35762Are you really going to act like a smug little cunt and choose to get in an argument about something completely unrelated rather than deal with as
>>35761 >>35754 >>35760 have all pointed out?
Get a grip. We really don't ask much of you 'people'.
>>35768>Are you really going to act like a smug little cunt and choose to get in an argument about something completely unrelatedThey do this every single time more than one thing is mentioned in a post. They just fart out some thought-terminating cliche lol
>>35767>children should not be on the internet, it's only for sex play<thinks kids can only get on the internet through parentally-controlled devicesOh for sure that's the standard Westoid mindset right there. That's why China is going to be the standard for education and technology in the new century.
How do you think this worked out for my mom? She's lucky I don't like to look at dead people or rape and I just like secrets.
Now I have all the secrets and all you have is your dick in your hand.
>>35768>Are you really going to act like a smug little cunt and choose to get in an argument about something completely unrelated Don't know what you're talking about, the troll-Anon called me out in a separate conversation.
>with as >>35761 >>35754 >>35760 have all pointed out?I logged on late it seems, the reports are near empty, so I assume the problem has been dealt with? Otherwise I will see to it that content that breaks the rules is removed.
>Get a grip. We really don't ask much of you 'people'.Wow my feelings, they're devastated. Crushed even.
>>35770>They do this every single time more than one thing is mentioned in a post. They just fart out some thought-terminating cliche lolI don't know what you're talking about. Can you elaborate?
>children should not be on the internet, it's only for sex play<thinks kids can only get on the internet through parentally-controlled devicesYes, where are else are they getting on the internet? The library? Firewalls should be in place there? School is the same story. You
have to be trolling at this point, this is the IT Admin's fault.
>>35771thanks anon, we are trying. the palestine thread seems to attract anti semites like flies to shit.
consider applying as a mod and helping?
>>35772>You have to be trolling at this pointSchool, library, and home, you really can't think of anywhere else?
This is beside the point, I don't think a single one of us was hindered by parental controls as a child, like I said. And there were always friends with older siblings and whatnot available since I actually had a social life unlike certain people who only think the internet exists at home, the school, and the library.
It requires at least blocking on the wifi itself which is getting into the territory of demanding parents all spend hours getting on the level of an IT guy to avoid your gross ass. Stop trying to further manage the time economy of the people doing the labor of rearing children asshole.
Douyinification of the internet, now. Coomeroid moids will kneel.
>>35776>School, library, and home, you really can't think of anywhere else?Yeah I really can't, maybe I grew up poorer than you, god-forbid. What do you have to offer? Your friend's home? That still seeps into the issue of the parent.
>This is beside the point, I don't think a single one of us was hindered by parental controls as a child, like I said.That's the fault of the parent. My parents didn't raise me with access to the internet, problem solved.
> And there were always friends with older siblings Older siblings fault not fucking
LEFTYPOL jesus christ, why is this Leftypol's fault and not the older sibling showing you
'PORN on his computer?
>I actually had a social life unlike certain people who only think the internet exists at home, the school, and the library.Boohoo my feelings, anyway see above.
>It requires at least blocking on the wifi itself which is getting into the territory of demanding parents all spend hours Trust me it's not that deep, and if it that confusing that you don't trust yourself with this technology, why the fuck would you give it to your kids? Once against the parent's fault.
>>35777Not my fault you were
literally raped and molested as a child
>>35780>Literally incapable of fathoming the reality of childhood or parenting. I should expect nothing less. It's a joke, Anon. Parents should be more sensible with their children on the internet, that isn't a joke. Your response is naive.
>>35781This is extremely fucking edgy and does NOT make you look better.
>>35783>YIKES BAD LOOKDo you think you're in a Twitter argument or something? Good luck telling people that it's a bad look to rape you when they put you in prison for fucking cats.
Regardless, something to think about next time you FAFO post. Some people actually do things instead of sitting inside making libertarian arguments. 💅
>>34464>Do you think you're in a Twitter argument or something? Good luck telling people that it's a bad look to rape you when they put you in prison for fucking cats.Yeah, you're fucking edgy dude it's not that deep, go outside. The fact that this your response to the fact that you got groomed online and your mom wasn't there to save you is beyond me.
>>35785Yes lol, is this a got-cha? I attached my name and everything, it's how you should know my reply "you were molesed" is a joke. Get real, and get ready for met butt fuck you.
>>35786<claims to be a rape survivor>makes jokes about raping othersYea, you're not a rape victim. you made it up.
Vile individual. You really should be banned yourself.
>>35800Fixed links:
>>>/leftypol/1963376>>>/leftypol/1963397>>>/leftypol/1963418cyberbarbarianhidden2 hours/leftypol/Attached a public ban message to post #1963397: USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
>>>/leftypol/1964484<cyberbarbarianhidden28 minutes/leftypol/Attached a public ban message to post #1964484: h*z is still banned>red ban text>for the benign webm>on an otherwise good faith effort post that successfully answered OPs questionI've seen much shittier, much more reactionary posts get hit with the benign blue text "warning"
furthermore, going to the rules page:
https://leftypol.org/rules.htmla cursory ctrl+f of "haz" or "infrared" returns nothing. The rule against soyjak spam is
much more explicit. I remember that anglo autism box webm getting posted all the time pre-outage and not resulting in a ban. What gives? I don't think it's fair to ban someone for a good faith effort post just because a cringe webm was attached. Why not just remove the file and give a blue text warning?
>>35811>>35812I deleted your thread because it was out of containment (this thread) and also feedback on individual mods as opposed to site policy isn't really being solicited. Some of the posts mentioned ITT were mistakes that have been reversed (or quickly expired as they were 1 hour bans like those for 'Iron Felix'. The ban mentioned in
>>35806 was also reversed by me.
that being said, any mention of the individual in question is, as far as I know, still banned.
>>35813>I deleted your threadi didn't make any threads today (or yesterday, or the day before…)
anyway, can you please stop banning people for posting things that are normal to post here? (angloid box webm, iron felix just existing, saying israel is a zionist state, etc)
>>35816>If you want, I could start a vote in the matrix chat to unban h*zposting that funny webm was never a problem until your janny ass rolled around, how about you just stop being a retard instead?
i don't care about you or your shitty little matrix, just stop ruining the site k thx
>>35815I have been using /leftypol/ since 2016 or so (i made the original fry from futurama holding up cockshott's 'towards a new socialism' meme and a ton of other OC you've probably seen).
To answer your question, I was a mod/tech teamer since the migration from bunkerchan and an admin since the split. I used to go by "barbara_pitt" and use the shoe on head in a ushanka avatar. I operated a separate splinter site on the leftypol.org. When leftypol on bunkerchan briefly went down then, space_ made leftypol.org the official backup for a brief period before the site went back up. That site had a ton of problems though, so i ended up shutting it down but keeping the domain. When the drama happened where space_ kicked out most of the mod team I joined the chat and offered to donate the domain to the exiled mods, which they used to build the new website. At that point I became a mod. I was pretty hands off since I would rather just use the site as a regular user, which I did, and only logged into the matrix/mod interface once in a while to deal with waves of spam.
It was during the split that I truly became a full admin. Since as I said, I didn't really log into the matrix I had no idea what exactly caused the drama (still really don't to this day). As a result me and two other individuals became the three admins of leftypol. Now the first admin in question was the one who paid for the cloud hosting at that time and has since been missing. The second is a developer who is very busy IRL and rarely logs in (except for the latest hard drive crashing the site drama).
At some point, we gained a fourth admin, wvobbly, who also does a lot of modding work.
It is absolutely true that this latest hard drive drama has forced me to become more active in helping run the site than before. I am also part of the tech team and doing around 1/3rd of the information technology work (other than development which is mostly done by Zan). Between that and not only having paid for the domain, I am also paying for all monthly expenses the cloud hosting costs including the server, storage, backup, source control, etc.
Basically, unless I stepped in, its fair to say that leftypol.org would have never existed or would have stopped existing years ago. That being said, I am absolutely happy to take a backseat from modding and focus on the IT stuff, site growth, or literally anything else, unfortunately the palestine thread seems to attract a ton of un-ironic anti semites and /pol/ crossposters.
Its also pretty hard to get mods to actually show up and mod. Despite all the complaining about overmoderation, there are periods where certain mods go weeks, months or in some cases 1-2 years between logins and thats a problem especially where there are legitimate problems (cheese pizza on siberia, etc.) that need timely resolution. We are currently onboarding a few new mods (possibly 3-5) who should help with the modding duties somewhat. When you don't mod, the reports pile up and people complain that you are turning /leftypol/ into /pol/ however when you do mod people show up here to complain.
The new mod candidates are currently going through extensive vetting. If they pass, at that point they will become janitors, and pending another probationary period, mods. At that point I will likely pull back on moderating a bit to focus on other leftypol projects and real life shit.
>>35818Thank you for the very detailed response. I'm satisfied with your answer and I imagine the others ITT wondering the same thing will be too.
Just one last question, are you jewish by any chance?
>>35841you don't need a revolution in worst korea when we already have best korea, anon-kun.
more seriously, any discussion of a s korea revolution is inevitably going to be in the purview of a continuation korean war, and thus probably should stay in the dprk thread.
>>35845every time I see you at least you are self-aggrandizing and driving off a cliff with random off-topic bullshit, but the thread in general is rife with a mix of /pol/ raiders and a bunch of "campist / anti-campist" morons who constantly try to shift the thread to being about russia or their specific ultra-niche revolutionary theory or some other bullshit instead of literally anything on-topic. bans getting deployed in wide blankets to reign in off-topic shit or /pol/ shit or whatever have probably just swept up you in it, and I would wager for good reason. nobody who is discussing israel getting its shit kicked in is getting banned, and indeed we're generally trying to protect the best aspects of the thread from its worst aspects - consider changing your allegiance from being shit to being good.
>>35847>every time I see you at least you are self-aggrandizingwhat do you mean by that? do you have a single example of me doing that? im pretty much the only poster who uses this flag, so it shouldn’t be hard
also, since when is “being self aggrandizing” a bannable offense? i thought this was about my ban, talk about going offtopic eh? ;)
>and driving off a cliff with random off-topic bullshitthis makes no sense, i was talking about other posts in the thread and those were not banned, so why is mine?
the posts themselves weren’t offtopic according to mods but my reply to them on the same context was, how the fuck does that work? plus, why did the mod wait 8 hours to do it? i posted proof that he was moderating the thread before, during and after that post was made, i think it’s very curious the ban came right after i was posting the usual stuff that gets me banned by the jannies, i honestly wouldn’t put it past them to be one of the people i was replying to since we know mods literally do ban people who argue with them while they’re posting as regular users?
>shift the thread to being about russiait was in the context of two news about russia/israel/iran relations that came out, and since those posts weren’t considered offtopic why would mine be!
>bans getting deployed in wide blankets to reign in off-topic shit or /pol/ shit or whatever have probably just swept up you in itlol bullshit, go fuck yourself with that excuse
the mod logs are (supposedly) public, you can see that it wasn’t le “wide blanket ban” “sweeping me with it”, i literally posted the logs and explained how that’s not the case
also why was my post about the old word filter for kike -> russian saboteur being removed by the mods deleted? was it too embarrassing? do the people maintaining this shithole not know how to do regex anymore or whatever vichan uses for filters?
let me guess, it’s “offtopic” because it might be a tech and not a moderation issue, but just like my ban this wouldn’t make sense the post i replied to
>>35842 is still here lol
flood detected >>35857>You're turning the thread into a Russia Ukraine oneno, i'm literally replying to posts about the two news that broke out about russia and israel/iran relations, if anything
the people who posted it are turning it into russia/ukraine, but clearly the mods don't agree with this since they weren't banned, but my reply to them was. how does that make sense? it's like banning someone for replying to a /leftypol/ thread that should be in /siberia/ but then not banning or at least moving the post to the other board, it's obviously a bullshit ban by a butthurt mod
this conflict is way bigger than just israel and palestine, i'm sorry to break it to you
>acting like someone's position on Russia Ukraine translates to their position on Palestinethe posts i was mocking were clearly pro-ukraine garbage, why would my reply to them be banned but not them?
it's literally insane to ban someone posting real news and mocking the retards posting fake twitter bullshit to try and "own" le ziggers, specially when the news is literally in context to this conflict, israel is literally bombing russian positions in syria
>like when the Turkish nationalist came in and shitted on Rojava and you just replied to the most obvious pol baits about Turkroaches, taking his side without responding to the actual argumentsyou're talking about a different reply thread and i didn't take anyone's side, i just called out blatant racism
pretty sure i said in that thread that i don't have a position on it, so i don't know why you expect me to "respond" to anything
also it's not like i owe you anything you retarded cunt lol, since when am i expected to dance for you?
>It's the same where you said you thought the jews 50% killed Jesusthat's not what i said, and i reckon sabocat's position in the reply thread you're talking about is closer to mine than whatever dogshit you believe in, so why isn't he banned?
anyway, i was banned for "offtopic" and not "antisemitism", so none of this is relevant
>You're a coward and you act like a 14 year old.none of this is against the rules, mods ban this chvd for derailing the thread with offtopic posts
>Not a mod btw."i'm not samefagging"-tier cope
ok let's say you aren't a mod, you're even more pathetic than one since you're defending blatant mod abuse to the detriment of your own experience here, congratulations on being the biggest retard here
>>35886it's the same chinlet mod doing the random bans
that's his way of making up for his lack of real life people to talk to i guess
>>35895how low does the quality have to be before you consider it trolling?* this is a chapter 1, volume 1 definition, they are making an obvious mistake to bait angry replies. specially when the point they are pushing is just conservative spite and sentimentalism, but as poorly disguised as to attract as many replies "calling them out"
*this is a rhetoric question, the answer will always be subjective, there is no objective and mathematical "perfect point"
>>35894>moderation is a good way of enforcing a minimum quality boundThat post was made on fucking /siberia/ right next to a lesbian porn and a MILF fetish thread. What "quality bounds" are you talking about lmao.
The mods are just power-tripping and you're a cuck for justifying it, these are literal teenagers who were raised on curated social media feeds. Anything they disagree with or object to must be inherently wrong so they delete it or add a big gay blue warning to the post. Also, the jannies have no claim to intellectual superiority after they all forgot to back up the site and lost a month's worth of posts and every single file ever posted here. It's amazing how quickly that fuck-up has been forgotten.
>>35891actually the only thing bad about this warning is that the user doubled down in the subsequent replies and it wasn't followed by a ban
why warn if you are not going to go through with it? what does it mean when they can keep posting the same stuff without consequences?
it's just blue posting
>>35892The crucial part that you and the retarded mod are missing is the selling of labour power, not the product of labour. That anon is also completely correct about subcategorising "working class". It is not synonymous with proletariat as is often assumed.
>human labor (value) >price someone is willing to pay (exchange value)>they find it useful (use value)>) is a commodity according to the marxist definitionIt's funny that you are accusing anyone else of masquerading, while you are blatantly repackaging neo-classical economics in a Marxian vernacular.
I have no interest in the "are sex workers petites or proles" discussion (a pointless exchange not worth having), and was not involved in the thread.
Just FYI and to be absolutely CLEAR:
VPNS and PROXIES are NOT BANNED OUTRIGHT on LEFTYPOL.However when a user is banned,
IF the autonomous system their IP address belongs to, is also associated with data centers or other network services such as VPNs or PROXIES, then
all subnets affiliated with that autonomous system are banned. This is similar to how the mods will shut down the TOR node if too much spam is coming from it at any given time.
In practical terms this means that if a user using a VPN is banned, then that VPN is banned in its entirety, in order to prevent ban evasion. Otherwise that user could simply switch VPN nodes and thus evade the ban.
VPN Users: Please behave yourselves or you will ruin it for your fellow anons that use VPNs responsibly.
More information:
>What is an autonomous system? | What are ASNs? An autonomous system (AS) is a very large network or group of networks with a single routing policy. Each AS is assigned a unique ASN, which is a number that identifies the AS.https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/network-layer/what-is-an-autonomous-system/>>35988We're back to sectarianism, aren't we? Workerism is a left tendency in Italian (which Moffin should be familiar with) politics, you can look it up.
Pro-work socialism, as mentioned before, is, in China, what drove the expansion of its industrial power and brought us to the present situation.
The point is that if socialists expect a reduction of labor discipline and intensity without the final triumph of socialism over capitalism, this is strategic suicide.
Moreover, even if socialism were to triumph over capitalism, there would still be ethical reasons to promote high labor intensity, such as the need for social surplus to back medical researchers (who require labor and capital surpluses to save and extend human lives).
>>35989Moffin and Zankaria is clearly the same person. This fact is known to the mods as well as anyone that paid attention over the last months.
The fact Moffin spends most of his time outright trolling this place is concerning, whatever the ultimate point is. Erratic, obnoxious behavior is par for the course for the more involved users here but still this is unusual, even for this crowd.
>>35945If you have a certain PHP/JS dice roll script you like, feel free to reply it to this thread, because as
>>36012 tells there is unfortunately a back-load of problems.
>>36022>>35945Right now it's not possible with our configuration, as the email field is used by the options dropdown field.
Anyway I noted the request
https://gitlab.leftypol.org/leftypol/leftypol/-/issues/15 >>36055>zankaria posting as moffin to defend himselfok this is getting absurd
time to stop this please, everyone knows it
>>35995No one ever said you'd work 16 hours a day, even in the factory example, those are dormitory workers with 2 hours lunch and dinner and 2 hours break, working only 12 hours a day. And this is because of relative capital scarcity in an earlier phase of Chinese growth, where the machines need to be kept running to maximize their value.
As for working hard in socialism, yes, in socialism, you are expected to put in hours to build socialism. Communism is utopian, socialism is actual, and to develop socialist societies, Chinese or Western, the labor intensity needs to increase, or otherwise you're labor aristocracy living off superprofits.
Simply a 50 or 60 hour workweek is enough for most workers, consider that Cuba has a 44 hour workweek on paper, and the Chinese average 48 hours (40 hours by law).
Actual socialist praxis requires work to survive as well as to finance research to improve everyone's living standards. Long-term, automation may render long-working hours obsolete, but that's in the future and probably what robot communism looks like.
at a time there’s actual news to talk about like the escalations in the north/south korea border, russia bringing back the mutual defense alliance treaty between the ussr and the dprk rumors of korean soldiers being trained in russia to fight in ukraine the dprk thread is being derailed by your avatarfag monarchist pet outside his containment thread
>>>/leftypol/1947383 clean it up please and thanks :^)
>>36181I actually support banning him on sight now for escaping containment
I didnt care as long it was contained to siberia but I dont want to see his stupid monarshit ramblings in actual threads
>>36181>being derailedIf you hate hereditary rule & dynasties so much, why is there effectively a dynasty in DPRK?
Until that stops, nobody takes you Juchefags srsly when you deny it.
Take the heat.
>>36185If reactionaries talk with leftists in good faith, why should they be banned?
>>36188>insists on lying and spreading imperialist propaganda about the dprkthat's alright, i'm gonna spam the grace thread until the mods either clean up your vomit from the dprk thread or turn off the tor node and ban all of my VPNs
protacted one man army war against the monarchist chinlet!!!
>>36190>imperialist propagandaLol, everything I posted is DPRK material. I posted my sources.
There's no denying that the Queen Bee aphorism -is- an aphorism of Kim Il Sung. That -really- is his aphorism, it's not imperialist propaganda, it's Juche. Take it up with Kim Il Sung.
>i'm gonna spam the grace threadThere's no grace thread.
hence why i started making threads & engaging threads more >>36188>If reactionaries talk with leftists in good faithoh yeah, lets just let them start arguing race science or randian philosophy in good faith in generals thread
fuck off, I dont want to argue with monarshits wanking about their system in a general thread.
>However, non-leftist users are ultimately to be considered ‘guests’ and thus will be removed if they prove a nuisance or disrupt the normal functioning of the site.there you go, now fuck off
>everything I posted is DPRK materialno, there is a large amount of the retarded ramblings of monarchists western philosophers, and a lot of idealist wanking about "muh king is father of the nation", with absolutely no material analysis of what actually happens in reality
>There's no denying that the Queen Bee aphorism -is- an aphorism of Kim Il Sungwho the fuck cares, its cherrypicked quotes to support your monarshit posting with 0 analysis
I'd have even accepted a dedicated thread about monarchism on leftypol, but you'd prolly posting there alone because most of us dont give a fuck about your stupid shit, which is exactly why you felt the need to come shit up the dprk thread
sometimes I think about becoming a jannie to help the site, and then I realize the mods prolly would kick me out for banning reactionaries retard like you and the anti campist morons
>>36196>and a lot of idealist wanking about "muh king is father of the nation"Which the DPRK clearly also does, btw, with the leader.
Aristotle / The Association of Father & Son, the Ideal of Monarchy>For the association of a father with his sons bears the form of monarchy… it is the ideal of monarchy to be paternal rule.If you disregard the criteria about monarchy from the Western standpoint, then you won't see why
DPRK is a monarchy gets thrown around to begin with. I'm simply showing the sources & the history of political thought, so Juchefags can see for themselves what monarchies were like – to better gauge the comparison between DPRK and monarchy.
>which is exactly why you felt the need to come shit up the dprk threadI felt the need to shit up the dprk thread because I see Juchefags as dishonest & a bit hypocritical.
>with absolutely no material analysis of what actually happens in realityThe onus isn't on outsiders to give a materialist analysis.
>who the fuck cares, its cherrypicked quotes to support your monarshit posting with 0 analysisIt's directly from Kim Il Sung's book of aphorisms AND also found in Kim Il Sung's book of anecdotes – so my sources are two books. It's not cherrypicking at all (if it has been re-stated not only once, but twice). The aphorisms of Kim Il Sung are often quoted in DPRK.
I already posted my own criteria on the monarchy question & engaged the DPRK constitution & Juche ideology, so you can't say there was no analysis.
>I'd have even accepted a dedicated thread about monarchism on leftypol, but you'd prolly posting there aloneThat's the point to begin with.
I engage /leftypol/ to give leftists a different perspective.
It wouldn't be fair to have everything said about leftism from their detractors only, right? so why should the same be said for monarchies?
Juchefags bitch and moan about unfair media representation / propaganda & people not going past their initial bias to truly understand them (in being heavily embargoed and sanctioned) for what amounts to their perspective, but it looks like Juchefags themselves don't care for other apologists.
That's clearly how I feel when Juchefags talk bad about monarchy (while clearly espousing things monarchists are all about). Again, hypocritical.
>>36044Whole thing seems like a slide operation because there's been almost no useful discussion there since they started raiding the thread with their Reddit snark and Marvel quips.
>>36198>>36200I support wordfiltering "tankie" because it as a word is worse than useless and the kinds of people that unironically use "tankie" aren't the kinds of people that should be posting here.
>>36198If i may state the case for the wordfilter more clearly:
>The word is an allusion to the read army invasion of Hungary during the Khrushchev era, that only tangentially relates to Marxism-Leninism as a whole.The decision may even have been the right. There was the public US policy of rollback and "discredited" former agents, indicating CIA provocateurs may have exploited economic dissatisfaction to incite a revolt. Compare June 1953 in the GDR, where a non-opportunistic national government took swift action.>It is used to conjure broad, propagandistic images. The "Russian tanks road to socialism", implying a newly formed socialist state wouldn't *need* tanks. Or that the Eastern-Bloc's socialist movements were forcefully imposed, instead of semi-organically arising from socialist partisan organizations and the previous regimes being destroyed from or collaborating with Germany.>General word overuse, board culture, etc.But make it something fun, like truest communist or corn cob.
>>36188>>36191>>36197>>36201nta what's the purpose of these posts? are you trying to neg the DPRK? it sure seems like it since you use "juchefeg" as a pejorative. you identify as a monarchist and you believe DPRK is a monarchy. So you like them? What's important to me is that the DPRK is the legitimate government of Korea and that Kim Jong Un is a glorious leader.
btw I assume you're not a janny?
just in case anyone falls for that garbage excuse:
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/blob/master/log.phplogs are per board, unless the theory i posted on /prc/ of the jannies adding this feature to their fork of vichan recently is true
>>36279Somebody was spamming the brazil thread
>>36268They should still be per board. You can check our source code via the link in the faq
>>36300That's the dumb and dangerous idea for doing that
>>36319Would require to significantly rework a lot of vichan
>>36330It was a troubled deployment
>>36333You do
>>36383>use the report button.I do, retard. You ignore them.
>Are you saying it should be?To a degree yes.
You should also be pushing this trash into its general instead of making every thread about it.
This is very simple. Not sure what you retard janoids don't understand.
>>36321This.
This is all I need.
Other mods and especially devs take note.
Are you the same black flag who cleans up the Palestine general? If so, thanks for that too. >>36395He was right though.
Stop being cringe misogynistic coomers.
>>36395wait, so the guy running the twitter account is an actual mod? and they paid for the blue checkmark? and that's the same guy trying to force the 'drained' meme?
bruh
>>36408>wait, so the guy running the twitter account is an actual mod? and they paid for the blue checkmark? and that's the same guy trying to force the 'drained' meme?Genuinely can't tell if jannies actively attempt to self-sabotage or that they're so retarded they chose the most terminally online never-touched-a-woman coomer to run the twitter page on accident.
Give it five moths and it'll come out he's been messaging women screaming rape threats spotted with comments about how much of a whore they are at random women he mildly disagrees with politically.
They always turn out like it.
Screenshot this.
>>36411The twitter account has posted lots of screencaps of retarded shit because it's funny. Idk why people think that it's an endorsement.
The bluecheck is cringe though.
>>36418Jannies should really take it away from him. Why is he getting into this weird little arguments anyway when his job is to like, post fucking memes and screenshots from the site.
Generally having some deranged coomer misogynist (who doesn't even have the impulse control not to get into little arguments with random RWers) running things is going to have blowback,
>>36411 , why play with this fire when you know it only leaves us (the site) burned?
>>36427Please make an appeal if still banned, however refer to picrel
>>36428Thanks!
>>36434>I highly doubt you even follow the account in the first placeYes, I don't use Twitter.
Utterly besides the point. Learn to read, retard.
>schizophrenic<in that flaglmao. If you had every espouses feminist positions on social media you would know EXACTLY the kind of messages, as i described, you regularly receive when you do so, by exactly the fragile misogynist self-described 'leftists' like this.
Also, having an account to advertise the site and show people it is one thing, but if you're a regular twitter user why are you even here, lmao? Just post your inane shit there instead.
>>36435>Learn to read, retardSorry I don't speak gormless schizophrenic delusions
>the kind of messages, as i described, you regularly receive when you do soSo this went from accusing one of the moderators of the twitter account "messaging women screaming rape threats" to the moderator receiving them? Lol seriously fuck off with the autistic concern trolling
>having an account to advertise the site and show people it is one thing, but if you're a regular twitter user why are you even hereMore concern trolling autism 🥱🥱 You know I've been moderating this site for two years, right? Are you new?
>>36449What was the IP address you used to receive this ban? Try appealing for it, and I will see what can be done.
>>36447And who are you, Glownonymous? Atleast I have a name, what would you rather to subtitute for accomplishment, back-breaking work? Not very easy to accomplish on a website.
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