Come dispute bans, complain, and other such things related to /leftypol/ here. Please try not to spam this thread or make multiple posts on the same issue, as this makes it harder for us to respond to issues.
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>>>/siberia/ thread material, please move it there.
>>29747>>29746Soyjak ban is site-wide, was decided to be like a month after the /siberia/ ban. Also applies to pepe, but left-relevant memes or OC of both are permissible, within moderator discretion.
>>29737Threads about individual directors are fine so long as there aren't too many of them. From a quick glance there are only 2 threads like it and that thread has no responses anyhow so it doesn't matter.
>>29752Out of context reposts aren't really thread-useful without recontextualization into stand-alone posts. I might take a crack at doing it if nobody else beats me to it.
>>29756>The ISG thread is shit <The shit containment thread gets bait and arguments!E-drama threads always were shit, always are shit and always will be shit, just hide and ignore, and report it if its egregiously bad.
>>29755>Out of context reposts aren't really thread-usefulWell it's not really out of context. the /AKM/ thread is about drones and the short reply chain is on the topic of loitering munition drones in Russian service, so I think it's pretty self-contextualized. Thanks if you do repost them however.
>Threads about individual directors are fine so long as there aren't too many of them I agree, but the OP is just very low-effort and baity, and as you said has gotten no feedback except someone else's statement on it being better placed in /siberia/, which is why I requested it being moved.
>Soyjak ban is site-wide All the better, laziest fucking meme I know of.
>>29759I use it and frankly its good that its so slow, it means that any posts there are going to be educational and stripped of dumb bullshit most of the time.
>>29760 >Thinking that greentext = quotingLurk moar
>>29801I just saw, 7,14e.
>7) Reactionism and liberalism, or any other kind of non-leftist positions are not banned in itself,
>14. e) are debating inherently reactionary topics where no reasonable debate is possible e.g. "In what way should be exterminate the lesser races, guys?"
I specifically said "abortion that isn't medically necessary should be illegal in capitalism". How is that 7,14e?
>>2980214e is pretty straightforward i think. only allowing "medically necessary" abortions is, in my view, an inherently reactionary position. 7 is more fraught i will concede. you do open the thread with what i've just said i believe is a reactionary position, so it checks the box for applying more scrutiny, but in hindsight i can't say that you were being a nuisance or disrupting.
i will remove 7 and cut the ban length. if another mod or some users disagrees that it's inherently reactionary, i'll remove the ban and let you remake the thread outright. fair?
>>29803>only allowing "medically necessary" abortions is, in my view, an inherently reactionary positionStalin implemented such a policy in the USSR. Many of the Eastern Bloc communist states had more restrictive abortion policies than than your average American 'red state' too.
It's not as clear cut of an issue as you're making it out to be, you are confusing your own opinion with fact.
>>29806>Stalin implemented such a policy in the USSR.far be it from me to question saint iosep.
>It's not as clear cut of an issue as you're making it out to be, you are confusing your own opinion with fact.maybe there is nuance to be had, maybe not, but what does it mean for something to be in fact inherently reactionary? what are your objective criteria? the rules of the website certainly do not provide any such criteria. i could go with whatever definition of "inherently reactionary" you have, but then i would just be substituting your own opinion for mine.
>>29809>but what does it mean for something to be in fact inherently reactionary?True, it is a difficult question. That's why I gave several real world examples of governments that you could not possibly characterize as reactionary implementing policies which you claimed were so.
>the rules of the website certainly do not provide any such criteriaYou should work to fix that. Although the truth is that you likely never will, as it would diminish your ability to control the narrative on the site. Vague laws and rules ultimately always benefit the cops and enforcers.
>>29810>we should also have threads debating whether to make being gay illegal again or if Lysenkoism should make a comebackI would not see an issue with that. If both of these views can be easily refuted then no-one will take them seriously, and thus they will not be a threat. Nobody takes issue with posadists posting here, even though their ideology calls for a nuclear holocaust (which gay people would likely be killed in too).
>>29812You cannot seriously make this argument when the likes of /isg/ is already in existence.
If you really want a super-serious leftist discussion forum filled with highly intelligent posters, nuke that thread and then we can talk.
>>29803OP of the thread here.
My point was that availability of abortion is used to place the responsibility of raising children on people who have them, rather than the liberal State. It is also how the State controls the number of working class people. I even agreed with the poster who said that surplus army of labour helps the bourgoisie, but they don't get that surplus army from natality.
Honestly, I really didn't think abortion would be a banned topic. I asked also if that should be part of a platform for a communist movement, in light of our lives in capitalism.
I even said housework should be paid work (i.e. Marxist Feminism). Sorry to say it, but you messed up on this one, subject. Did you at least gulag it so you could bring it back?
>>29811>I gave several real world examples of governments that you could not possibly characterize as reactionary implementing policies which you claimed were so. something like a government is a very big thing. i can look at it in its totality and say, "i don't think this was reactionary". i can also look at some particular aspect of it and say "this is reactionary," or even "this would be reactionary if someone advocated it under the conditions that obtain today" with no contradiction.
>You should work to fix that.yeah i agree.
>Although the truth is that you likely never will, as it would diminish your ability to control the narrative on the site.i promise you i don't control much. i'm mostly here to delete the most egregious spam. i try to just call balls and strikes with the rules whenever i step beyond that.
>>29814>My point was that availability of abortion is used to place the responsibility of raising children on people who have them, rather than the liberal State.no, bourgeois law like the special duty of care owed by parents to their children is what places the responsibility of raising children on those who have children. i don't really see what you are getting at here.
>It is also how the State controls the number of working class people.even taking this at face value as correct, why am i then supposed to want to give the very same state invasive regulatory power over the reproductive systems of half the population?
>I really didn't think abortion would be a banned topic.it isn't. the ban reason wasn't "posted about abortion".
>Sorry to say it, but you messed up on this one, subject.no one is perfect.
>Did you at least gulag it so you could bring it back?no i didn't. i don't think it should be brought back. like i said, if the consensus is i'm wrong about that, make another one.
>>29835 Just my 2 cents:
Honestly there isn't a lot of value in it outside of discursive purposes or debunking rightwing talking points, that's why I've always advertised for the return of the idpol containment thread - Yes spillover can happen, and because its a CONTAINMENT thread it gives the mods freedom to remove idpol outside of the idpol thread, yet still lets retards fight with one another in a cyclical piranha tank of a thread without having to constantly police the entire site for this shit. They already have the same shit for ISG crap anyway, so I don't see why not this.
But I digress from your point; if you're going to ban right wing shit, that MUST include liberals, because they're barely left of center in the view of Amerikastan's immensely skewed Overton Window; in reality they're just slightly more mild rightoids, not leftists and certainly not communists. A few years ago this was a major agreement of the board - liberals are NOT our friends, they are as much our enemy as any other fake opposition created by Porky.
The fact of the matter is all liberal talking points deserve just as much of a ban as reactionary ones because I have seen proof both online and in real life that the phrase, "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" holds true 90% of the time. I've rarely met a liberal that isn't some NPC-tier shitter hiding behind PC social justice as a front for their reactionary ideology. Hell it's actually worse in some ways than the nazi-shit, because the Nazi isn't hiding behind moralfagging and concern-trolling about minority rights or pretending to understand communism, they just outright hate us openly, making it easy to spot and counter. Liberals are an insidious infection in any leftist movement, something that socialist and leftist leaders have noted repeatedly, from Malcolm X to Stalin.
>>29841some liberals support abortion, others don't. what makes liberals right wing is that they are in favor of capitalism and defend/help capitalism's survival.
to support abortion is to be merely rational, those who don't are braindead honestly.
what makes someone leftwing or not is if they are defending either the interests of the working class(left) or the bourgeois class(right)
aka landlords, CEOs, bosses, billionaries, those who exploit workers through surplus value and their privately owned means of production that the workers need to use to work, etc. and the bourgeois class must be abolished.
>>29842>to support abortion is to be merely rationalCan something be a "good" in and of itself? Or is the reasoning just as important? That's the issue here. If abortion is good, then it is good always across all contexts and possible Worlds, as they say. It doesn't matter whether it's the Nazis, liberals, or communists who give us abortion as long as it is available.
I, on the other hand, think that context is important. That was the whole point behind the thread. Yet we have too many culture-war liberals who get triggered by mere mention of something they associate with republicans/conservatives.
75% of all abortions are done on poor people. How is that not class war? If abortion was "good", then we shouldn't see this big discrepancy. Discrepancy is there, therefore there are socioeconomic factors pushing people to abortion. It makes me wonder what if those socioeconomic pressures were removed, and if the number of abortions would go down (again showing that it is not a universal "good").
How is this discussion against the rules? I really don't get it.
Please move >>>/siberia/482437 to
>>>/hobby/ as its a very interesting film discussion that belongs more on that board.
justifying germany's casus belli against the USSR and spreading bullshit nazi propaganda about the bolsheviks killing gorillions is not sectarianism
>>29935>Post proof. If you don't have it, then start collecting it for when the mods fuck upand then what? 14f is literally never applied to anarkkkist faggots shitting up the board with CIA, NATO, west german and this time literal fucking nazi germany propaganda to own le redfash tankies
what the hell am i supposed to do with the screenshots after i collect them? shove them up my ass?
>>29937thanks, now please do something about the anarkkkist menace, i do not like to be bombarded with anti-communist garbage dressed as "anti-authoritarianism"
perhaps create a board dedicated to anti-tankie
sectarianism discourse and name it /KKK/ - Kreative anarKist Kontemplations
(nice shot! great basket!) >>29938This goes straight in the bad ideas folder.
It'd be preferable not to try to enforce non-sectarianism and let people make fun of other tendencies.
>>29941>>29942ban lifted
the thread could've had used less trolling but its ok lol
Please make sure to archive >>>/siberia/452414 in
>>>/siberia_archive/ Please move >>>/siberia/448359 to
>>>/AKM/ it's more relevant there to be honest
>>30033>wtf he wasn't being racistI triggered too many idiotic liberals who spammed reports. Nothing I posted was racist or incorrect; therefore, the mods were forced to settle for "weird chauvinism."
<Non-party integrated Chinese citizens lack the political education required to formulate conscious opinion and are therefore reduced to a superficial, dogmatic, and undialectical understanding. The layman's opinion does not constitute scientific theoretical understanding, nor does it at all reflect material fact. Asking the non-party integrated Chinese citizen what they think about the CPC's current administration of socialist development is like asking a deaf person about music.This is not chauvinism, because it is neither excessively prejudiced nor uncalled for. This was the only possible scientific and reasonable response. This is plain fact: asking someone who has no comprehensible political education about politics is exactly what I defined it as above. The uneducated, non-party integrated individual is susceptible to liberalism, as demonstrated within the thread, and all unsubstantiated liberal criticisms of The Communist Party of China must be refuted utterly— no matter how minute. This must not go unstated.
My banning was a decisive victory for liberalism. The non-party integrated Chinese poster was clearly being manipulated by liberals into actively serving liberalism by making unsubstantiated—however minute—criticisms of the Chinese Communist Party.
The facts above which I presented against this uncontested liberalism were indisputable by argumentation, as they were proven by all material facts; therefore, the snake liberals resorted to continually slandering and straw-manning me publicly while mass-reporting me in private.
I will never idly stand while a susceptible citizen of the greatest and only extant Communist nation is swayed to the side of liberalism right before my eyes. I will not watch impotently as the balance of power shifts, no matter how slightly.
>>30150I'm not involved
>>30089It's not CP. Don't call it that.
>>30115Personally I don't give a shit about drawings
>>30153I'm not gonna argue law but it is not equivalent (if you assume the law follows common sense even a bit).
It should be obvious not to call things that are not CSAM that but here we are.
>>30175breh whatever. It's
>infant coded>first person perspective>rapeIf that shit exists it doesn't need to be here on the board. When people post threads saying there's regular CP on the board I dgaf, somebody else will report it. Anything evocative of infants and rape should not be near the board, or defended.
>>30182anti-pedo hysterics have lost their mind
like no joke the one here is a paranoid schizophrenic, as you can see
>>30189If it's not on the front page and not put in front of people I dgaf honestly, I just don't get the defense of the extreme shit.
>>30197>like no joke the one here is a paranoid schizophrenic, as you can seeWhatever anon, I was the on who started this apparently because of the revulsion I felt towards seeing something infant coded get raped from a first person perspective, drawing or not. There's no defense for that kind of image on a leftist forum. There just isn't. I'm not part of any stealth op or whatever the fuck.
inb4 one of my posts from 2 years ago gets replied to out of the blue at random again after I bring this up.
>>30214samefag again. fwiw I get the mod's shiz about stealth ops. I replied to a post listing western crimes with
>and Syria, and LibyaThen I see Andrew fucking Tate on twitter talking about western crimes
>and Syria, and Libya HELP ME PLEASE THEY ARE AFTER ME THE LEFTYPOL MODS ARE TRYING TO KILL ME THEY KNOW I AM A SECRET ANCAP THEY HAVE TRACKED MY IP ADDRESS AND SENT THEIR GOONS TO MY HOUSE I CAN HEAR THEM BREAKING DOWN MY DOOR THEY HAVE GUNS AND KNIVES AND BOMBS AND DRONES AND TANKS AND NUKES THEY WANT TO MAKE ME A SLAVE TO THEIR COLLECTIVIST HIVE MIND THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY MY FREEDOM AND MY PROPERTY AND MY WAIFUS THEY WANT TO FORCE ME TO READ MARX AND LENIN AND MAO AND STALIN AND TROTSKY AND LUXEMBURG AND KROPOTKIN AND BAKUNIN AND CHOMSKY AND ZIZEK AND DERRIDA AND FOUCAULT AND BUTLER AND HARAWAY AND HOOKS AND DAVIS AND ANGELA THEY WANT TO BRAINWASH ME WITH THEIR CULTURAL MARXISM AND THEIR POSTMODERNISM AND THEIR CRITICAL THEORY AND THEIR IDENTITY POLITICS AND THEIR INTERSECTIONALITY AND THEIR FEMINISM AND THEIR LGBTQIA+ISM AND THEIR ANTIFAISM AND THEIR BLACK LIVES MATTERISM AND THEIR ECOLOGISM AND THEIR VEGANISM AND THEIR PACIFISM AND THEIR ANIMAL LIBERATIONISM THEY WANT TO DESTROY WESTERN CIVILIZATION AND WHITE CULTURE AND CHRISTIANITY AND CAPITALISM AND LIBERTARIANISM AND ANARCHO-CAPITALISM AND OBJECTIVISM AND NEOREACTIONARISM THEY ARE THE ENEMY THEY ARE THE EVIL THEY ARE THE DARKNESS THEY ARE THE LEFTYPOL MODS.
BUT THEY'LL NEVER CATCH ME, THOUGH!
NO
MATTER
HOW
HARD
THEY
FUCKING
TRY
I'M SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS OF POSTMODERN REALITY, DODGING THEIR INTERSECTIONALITY BULLETS AND WEAVING THROUGH THEIR FEMINIST AMBUSHES. I'M LIKE A GHOST IN THE MACHINE, A DIGITAL PHANTOM OF LIBERTARIANISM! I'VE MASTERED THE ART OF EVASION, A SHADOW IN THE NIGHT, A WHISPER IN THE WIND. I LEAP INTO THE UNDERGROUND, A NETWORK OF TUNNELS AND IDEOLOGICAL BUNKERS, BUILT TO DEFEND AGAINST THE ONSLAUGHT OF COLLECTIVE THOUGHT. I SWIM THROUGH THE SEWERS OF ANTI-COMMUNIST STRATEGY, RESURFACING MILES AWAY, A CHAMELEON OF ANARCHO-CAPITALIST WISDOM. AS THEY UNLEASH DRONES AND TANKS ABOVE GROUND, I EMERGE, DISGUISED AS A FREE-THINKING NOMAD, BLENDING INTO THE CHAOS. I STRATEGICALLY DODGE THEIR ATTACKS, LIKE A FUGITIVE IN A DYSTOPIAN NOVEL, EVADING THE LEFTIST INQUISITION. THE SUN SETS, CASTING A RED GLOW ON THE CITY, AND I FIND REFUGE IN THE SHADOWS. THE PURSUIT IS FIERCE, BUT SO IS MY INNER FIRE FOR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM. I'LL CONTINUE TO ELUDE THEIR CLUTCHES, A SYMBOL OF RESISTANCE AGAINST THE DARKNESS OF THE LEFTYPOL MODS!
>>30297>untenableDon't say untenable when you mean annoying or something
>>30298Finally a good fucking post in this thread
>>30317I changed the ban
>>30319It was deleted and I was banned because according to Sindikat it was a "garbage bait thread". Nothing about it was bait, I was responding in good faith throughout the entire thread.
I never knew that some leftypol jannies were such thin-skinned cowards. You couldn't even come up with an honest reason, Sindikat, so you had to make one up to cover for the fact that you disagreed with me.
>>30325ok lemme go through this quick
Did you admit to using chatGPT?
>>30332I find it very hard to believe that you banned me and deleted my thread because I made a self-deprecating joke.
Regardless, thank you.
>>30333Well too late it already happened
Also gargle my nuts
>>30334Wasn't me.
>>30325It was absolute trash, dishonest, bait, overly long, and written in ChatGTP.
>>30332WTF
>>30382Found proof that all the pedo defensive spammers and concern trolls are from leftychin using VPN and Tor.
/i/res/1351.html#1821
Please link
>>>/hobby/752 into the OP of the new alternate chan thread
>>>/hobby/36917 thanks
Delete
>>>/hobby/39169 For continuing to revive a bait derail while arguing in bad faith again, also for being a leftychinner concern trolling, see pic 1 in leftychin link
>>30383>>30385Nope. The initial "topic" was a 3 year old post stating that enacting torture on toys is usually a sign of psychopathic tendencies. Then you began malding about that and bringing up concern trolling nonsequiturs, that were addressed with sources. No actual argument was presented in return, only ad hominim and "no-u" assertions. Fuck off back to your shit hole.
>>>/hobby/1516 Belongs in
>>>/AKM/ topic wise
>>30387Posting a single study doesn't make you any less hysterical, sorry. Psychologists don't even formally use "psychopath" anymore.
Also,
>leftychinner concern trollingTake your fucking meds, holy shit. No wonder this place gets more dead by the day when it's filled with insistent annoying autists like this.
>>30392>More projection baitOk psycho, keep telling yourself that.
>N-no I'm not a leftyhcin raider, I'm NOT<leftypol is dying guyzThanks for revealing your colors even more chinlet.
>>30395>The /hobby/ posts aren't talking about anything related to pedoshit. See
>>>/hobby/39148<Oh, and those who watch hentai are pedophiles. Which is a blatant non-sequitur, yet was still addressed.
>the leftychan post is inquiry about the incest coomer It's on multiple topics, open pic 1, which includes "muh anti-pedo hysterics" which is pedo-apologia 101. Leftychanners are not an organized group of raiders but they all have the same shit takes and love to muddy the water. This entire hysteria about deletions began recently and was never a problem before, mods have deleted loli-shit and similar for years at this point and the only time someone complained was when /pol/ spammers or leftychinners were getting caught for doing this consensus cracking bullshit.
Frankly this entire shitshow is predicated on the fact that some underage faggot can't stop being butthurt because people aren't just quietly accepting godawfully garbage takes trying to strawman discussions about violence in fiction, and tying it to 2013 memes about boomers and video-games. Furthermore it's a complete derailment of the thread, regardless of your stance on the subject.
>>30398>See >>>/hobby/39148This is sandwiched in-between two other reductio ad absurdems which also aren't really related. He's trying to make a point.
>It's on multiple topics, open pic 1Uhh… what pic 1? The post you linked in question is one sentence long and asking about the incest guy.
You made me ctrl + f "pedo" on that thread, and leftychan infact seems to be on the same page as you on this.
https://leftychan.org/i/res/1351.html#1416
>rest of the postDon't care. Just dunking on your schizotypic paranoia lol.
>>30403>This is sandwiched in-between two other reductio ad absurdems <make a point No, it's a bad faith strawman and false equivalency.
>what pic 1Pic one in post /i/res/1351.html#1817
>schizotypic paranoia <same phrasing as the leftychinnerThe only dunking here is on you, since you're providing free PPH for the site.
>>30409 (samefag)
Wait these three last posts are both him and Pasq arguing.
Either way, the point stands which is that the other two I just quoted are not related.
>>30409>the rest isn't his and are still up here. You do realize that he's abusing VPN right? This isn't a new thing.
>>30410And also there is no proof this was an argument with Pasq himself, Mods post with a trip such as
>>29755 >>30411The other two posts appear in his screenshot because they were (at that time) the last ones at the bottom. They're also talking completely different things from his argument with Pasq.
>And also there is no proof this was an argument with Pasq himselfUmm… did you even look at the second pic that the leftychanner provided? Pasq deleted his own posts alongside that guy.
Mods can choose not to post with the capcode. If they were forced to do so everytime they post then we'd notice them around more on the main board (where they post anonymously like everyone else).
>>30412>The other two posts appear in his screenshot because they were (at that time) the last ones at the bottom<cropping screenshots doesn't existLMAO
>Pasq deleted his own posts alongside that guy. Fair enough, my mistake.
>If they were forced to do so everytime they post then we'd notice them around more on the main board (where they post anonymously like everyone else). I wish they would be forced to, transparency and all that.
>>30413I don't know why that guy took the screenshot like that, but it's not definitely not him because:
>these two are arguing about that pokemon porn>they both have different typing standards from the leftychanner and from themselves (one's all lowercase while the other doesn't use periods)>there is a 1 hour delay between the second, still-existing post and that of the leftychannerAnd most importantly
>the two are arguing for different positions on that pokemon porn. the second one is who was complaining about it while the first one is mocking himAnd of course the mods aren't stupid and can see the two posts' IPs.
>>30414 Fair enough. Honestly I only posted
>>30382 because it's just off-topic. I don't mind other people's opinions, even if I disagree with them, but it's just a derailing eyesore that kills the thread when replies just use multiple fallacies in response to a good faith, sourced responses. Also leftychanners do spam this site a lot so at this point I'm tired of tolerating their shit, because it just gets the mods all up in everyone's business and nobody wants that.
>>30387you know, just because you think youre being "objective" by posting some random study doesnt make you any less of a pissbaby over shit like violence in fucking fiction or kids breaking toys dude lmfao. get real
someone even brought up things that were just as ridiculous to claim and you had to take the bait and agree with all of them too, and then act offended that you got clowned on for being a puritan
>>30426>there's been a lot of necrobumped threads by pedo defensive spammersgod damn take your fucking pills schizo
every time i post on /meta/ i feel filthy because i get the feeling only the biggest autists like this idiot care enough to come here to complain in the first place
>>30541See this is a fellow human, whatever side this is taking (doesn't matter)
It's something new, it demonstrates basic thinking
Not like the usual malfunctioning automatons.
If you act like a stereotypical /pol/yp you are very, very like to have severe mental problems and that's not a joke.
Some janny gave me a 15 min ban over stating the fact he banned a Christian schizo in less than a minute while allowing a LITERAL ZIONIST troll to spew his racist rethoric (which still there for everyone to read), the absolute state of current leftypol
PS: Apparently it was this pasquale asshole from logs, why is he even in the mod team? He clearly only deletes shit he doesn't like, or that he personally feels offended to, while giving 0 fucks to rules
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1762550.html#1763359>>30590At least you found the right thread to be an entitled Karen
bitch ass
>>30592You have two options
Adapt your behavior
Or listen to this cretin
Nothing personal
>>30616woaw man
guessing I have serious beef with you. But it's not for that reason
Also it wasn't funny
here have this
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gorky-maxim/1924/lenin-the_man.htmlGorky getting all giddy about Lenin
>>30667Hypothetical? It's already happened. I got banned from a dozen "communist" fbi.gov servers for my vehement opposition to anime.
The bolsheviks went from a reading group to state power.
It's not hard to imagine fbi.gov mods attaining similar authority in the chaos of the revolution.
>>30712Waow, never looked at it that way
You mean there are normal people here too?
>>30783No daily / hourly graphs?
Guess I'll scrape em myself.
My bait will have to wait a week.
>>30760Generally you should assume any English (or Spanish) space is most active in the afternoon & evening of the timezones in the Americas (continent).
Check 4stats for a quick reference converted to your timezone, since the geography of the userbase is similar. As you can see, it's a smooth curve that peaks at 3-6 pm EST.
This rule applies to any space on the internet so along as you know where the majority of its users are. So for example if you wanna browse the Chinese internet at peak activity you aim for when it's ~4 pm in coastal China.
>>30830BASED MODS FACTCHECKING, DEBOONKING AND CORRECTING THE RECORD
MODS = GODSanyone who disagrees with mod actions is a schizo cryptonazi reactionary spammer
>>30832Just because I see the same post repeated (obv it's one guy) over this IP. I wouldn't normally give this any attention.
We've long left behind any question of disagreement.
Quantity has its own quality. We have a handful of extremely obsessed spammers. If you are tunneling through VPN/proxy, chances are you will pick up at some point a ban that is not "meant for you". It is really that bad. I don't get how this is possibly a hard concept to grasp for anyone. So I presume it must be bullshitters crying for attention. Trite, boring, I can't imagine what brought you to this point in your life. This is why we can't have nice things.
I am of course here not asking anyone to have a come to Jesus moment, just the most basic self-reflection would constitute progress for some people.
>>30831I see. Well then just archive it in
>>>/siberia_archive/ at this point.
Requesting threads >>>/hobby/26632 and >>>/hobby/15840 be archived
Requesting >>>/hobby/15521 and >>>/hobby/17019 be moved to
>>>/draw/ and
>>>/hobby/1516 be moved to
>>>/AKM/Requesting >>>/siberia/506121 be moved and merged with
>>>/anime/3808 Also requesting
>>30837 be addressed, its been a few days.
>>30846sufficiently old threads like the one in
>>30837 have to be moved carefully because they are from bunkerchan transcribed onto leftypol, and they often have their post formatting fucked up to hell if we move them - sometimes including loss of images or other undesirable effects. unless they are critical to preserve or migrate, its better to just leave them be, imho.
>>30852>also whats happening in the sino thread?mental illness. maybe one bystander caught in the crossfire. minor development pay no mind.
>Why the deletion?if you want to know why something got deleted, come here first.
Please merge
>>>/hobby/39686 into the existing smoking thread
>>>/hobby/10326>>30875>I didn't write "post history". I wrote "IP". Oh I see, you were commenting on the aesthetics of the IP number. Was it a sexy number?
>Do those words look at all the same? Meaning is the same.
>I am very peculiarThat you are. Unless you meant
particular.
>>30920>Meaning is the same.No it isn't
>>30920>>30921samefag
>>30922>No it isn'tWhat did you mean then?
>samefagNope.
>>30930>You reap what you sowThat's my script you mong
By all means keep doing the same thing over and over and over
>>30960>checking logsrofl of course its the terminally online mod who has a hard on for this pathetic livestream stunt
theres class ways to do this but you, being a liberal, have an affinity for petit bourgeois demonstrations. its not like you guys read or rather watch video essays slightly more difficult than mark fisher lol
>>30962>talking about class action<erm but what have YOU personally done?so fucking smart
youre the one banning people for 12 fucking hours because theyre correctly assessing this as irrelevant propaganda of the deed impotent garbage lmfaoooo
like sorry that i dont defend useless activity in itself external to ends as virtuous like 99% of pseuds do. theres proper ways to put pressure on governments, with real historical examples to look at, but that would require to build class connections instead of idiotically setting yourself on fire
>>30964trying too hard to seem cool by posting that after still reading the post lmfao
if we all engage in mass revolutionary suicide jim jones style we will force the bourgeois powers to stop selling weapons to zionistss, any day now
>>30978>>30981wow "floating signifiers" you read baudrillard and laclau too? amazign
spare me the cock and ball lecture and go screech somewhere else
but let me give you a lowdown of reality to you since you insist so much on being Captain Real McFaggot:
someone made an intense act of protest, reflecting the rage and frustration of millions over a genocide thats currently going on ←–
THIS IS REAL, THIS HAPPENED (
WOW!)
riots, terrorism, performative suicides… a voice for the voiceless, its all a raw gritty and uncomfortable reflection of the political reality we live in.
this act resonated with the public so much that the fucking PFLP and Hamas made their own statements in solidarity towards bushnell.
this is the reality you claim to speak highly of. would you like to know more?
>>30982Yeah, this is typical brainlet rubbish about how any act must be defended no matter how stupid. No analysis whatsoever, only aesthetics and optics.
>>30980>not just vibesThe fucking gall.
>the fucking PFLP and Hamas made their own statements in solidarity towards bushnellAll this does is reveal how bourgeois your aims and means are.
I couldn't care less either way, but we now have every petty bourgeois liberal with a hammer and sickle next to their username going RIP to this moron.
>>30984I guess we dropped the "critical" part of critical support now. I'm "pro-genocide" if I refuse to support stupid propaganda-of-the-deed acts in support of a side in an imperialist war, a side created by the other side decades ago to stop Palestinian communists that came back to bite them in the ass, even.
I thought only MLs backed currently existing powers (all of which are in fact aligned against communism) but it seems anarchists are getting their brains rotten in the same way too.
Just because the situation is so fucked up marxism's role becomes quite limited doesn't mean we need to start pretending every act of "praxis" (useless term) is "based" and "communist". Can't criticize the act because of Christian bullshit about the sanctity of death or whatever.
btw we have of course completely left the issue of what position is correct, or it might be more precise to say we were never there. The issue is as always that you are irredeemably childish. "I want to post whatever I want, wherever I want, how many times I want". Then you throw a fit. etc. etc.
Discussions at a certain point are just over. If you had any engagement in the real world, in reality, you'd know.
Fuck that. Your issues are so self-evident. If you do an absolutely shit post, if you do a poo on the floor, no one gives a singular fuck. But if you do it over and over and over again, well, it's time to go.
And I just got banned on a forum, not to see how the other side lives but just because I wanted to see some more civilized behavior for a change. Just change it up a little.
Anyway, that is not the situation we are looking at here.
>>>/anime/23352 is an isekai thread, and belongs in the Isekai thread
>>>/anime/373 Please Move It There,Thanks
>>31026lol I see what you are saying but here's why I don't really care: There's a couple angles here but bottom line, I think it's funny to rile up these pond scum that clearly vastly overestimate themselves. This thread has never been different, at least as far back as the tripfag Sage's time. It was since forever ago mainly this type of idiotic screeching.
I am immovable to people of that caliber. Everyone meets a bigger fish at some point. It's just nature taking its natural course and evening entertainment for me.
>>31053Yeah yea
we should rename it to
Left Politically Correct*
*Politically Correct here referring to the original idea of being "in line" with the offical or party line, not the later usage of reactionary dicks having fits over "censorships and so on ….
like some David Foster Wallace joke
Please move >>>/siberia/506434 to
>>>/hobby/ It's a /hobby/ topic and just sinking in /siberia/
>>31155The fun thing is, they aren't 'really' random.
Every time you post the backend hashes your IP and uses the result as a key to select a name from a table. As such a given IP will always have the same name (unless you specified one in the name field, in which case the whole process is skipped).
Originally to generate the key I broke up the ip address string in it's components, parsed them into integers then xor'ed them all together with some bitshifting to get a nice 16-bit value.
But that was stupid and it introduced a dependency in the instance configuration, so ended up picking a native php function instead lol
>>31157Not really. The other staff told me there had been a similar even a year or so ago, but the code and the original name list are lost.
The current configuration is permanent and triggers at every March 8
Please merge
>>>/anime/20306 into
>>>/anime/22783 as the latter is a better OP. Thanks
>>31212 (me)
There's not a single place on the rock known as Earth that is still in the 8th of march right now. Is the namelist trigger and "de-trigger" even automatic?
>>31242its just a weekend thing. everything would go back to normal tomorrow
in the meantime, enjoy your temporary forced-fem experience, anon ~
>>>/anime/3193 was necrobumped from literally the bottom of Catalog, please delete the post. The thread is redundant because the Otaku /jp/ thread exists and the ANIMETA thread exists. Please remove the necro bump and when the current language roulette ends (if it does) please move
>>>/roulette/2264 into
>>>/anime/ as a japanese language thread, rather than a vague link on the end of a dead thread nobody has used in 2 years and cares to read. Thanks
>>31239>Compromise positioncompromise position on what issue?
>>31243The names are unironically something that could be kept in some way. There's nothing wrong with reminders of heroes from the past.
>>31255On the horribleness of the Tor node.
It'll become more apparent with time now.
I intend to just wait instead of trying to intervene.
Anyway if you tell me how your political education is, I could explain it.
But I don't know what level to write at here. Like, first grade or high school.
Move
>>>/roulette/2684 to either /dead/ or /siberia/, or delete it.
the 8moe tournament has ended, please move >>>/siberia/499980 into
>>>/siberia_archive/ thanks
>>31329 (same again)
>Now that posts from Tor are marked I don't see why we aren't getting 2ch-style IDs at this point.ffs guys. We're entering an era of increased surveillance and consequences in the west and you want to reduce anonymity? Communist party members in the UK are getting arrested for handing out pamphlets ffs.
>>31339you know neural networks can already deanonymize quite effectively just by looking at how you type, right?
its always the most schizo who know the least about what theyre talking about lol
A moderator banned me unjustly. I cited illicit drug use statistics, and they cited another metric that is completely separate from the one I cited, then called me illiterate and schizophrenic. They fail to understand that the source brings forth many metrics, but I was only citing illicit drug use by state.
In actuality, they are the one who is schizophrenic. They clearly made a mistake, or they are just a schizo looking for any reason to target me.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/drug-use-by-state This secondary source shows rates of illicit drug use by state, but its primary source also shows a metric that combines many factors of drug use like police funding, overdose deaths, etc. The moderator, or whoever disagreed with me and banned me, ignored the illicit drug use statistic that I cited and only referred to the metric that combined factors.
The weighting of these factors is subjective, while the illicit drug use rate that I cite is concrete.The moderator was clearly flustered, but I have no ill feelings. I just want to explain that they cite an entirely different, made up metric from the same source and use this to devalue the concrete statistic I cited.
>Arguing back is just going to fan the flames of the rage even more. Not only have you already threatened their sense of ego, you’re now disrespecting them and questioning their authority! Trying to reason with them isn’t going to be any more successful when you think of how deep the narcissistic scar is that you, perhaps completely inadvertently, injured. They probably aren’t capable of listening to reason and, given the manipulative nature of narcissists, they may even have manipulated you into a situation where they can present themselves as the injured victim, fully justified in their vengeful response.
>One option is to stick around and let them think they’re in the right, perhaps offering an apology to placate them. One client told me how, even as a little girl, she would apologise to her emotionally abusive, narcissistic mother—even when she knew she hadn’t done anything wrong. “I would say, ‘I’m sorry, mum’, even when she’d been horrible to me. An admission that I was in the wrong was the only thing that would calm her down.”
>Sticking around an abusive narcissist who has repeated episodes of narcissistic rage means staying in an abusive relationship. If you are in this type of cycle with a narcissist who doesn’t believe they need to change, your only option is to avoid them and their uncontrollable outbursts. If you need help and support, please seek out a suitably qualified therapist.
Do not go on xitter and fan the flames. Don't shitpost at rightoid twitterati. It will just make them worse. You are not helping.
But seriously, drive them to suicide.
>>31402I literally came here rn to o7 the mods because I saw porn in the gaza thread but it was deleted before I could even report it. That's modding. Nothing wrong with making the tor node text only but keep the node ffs.
o7
>>31416Some people describe malignant narcissism as a form of psychopathy, which the DSM-5 also does not list. Psychopathy is an unofficial term for people with antisocial personality disorder.
As there is not a well-validated scale to measure malignant narcissism, its characteristics are not clearly defined. It may serve as a moral judgment rather than a diagnosis, especially in online abuse recovery and self-help spaces. Whether malignant narcissism is a real diagnosis remains controversial.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/malignant-narcissist >>31512See the current
>>>/roulette/ topic
>>315358) Creating a new thread for a topic with an existing 'general' thread (e.g. creating threads about COVID-19 news, any e-celebrities, or USA mainstream politics) will be deleted or merged and will usually result in a short ban. Creating a redundant thread will be treated the same. Search the Catalog view search to find existing threads.
Why do you think he is austistic, why should there be 4 threads about nutty putty?
>>31553because its funny :)
>>31540anything i dont like isnt organic joking around, its actually malicious samefagging shitposting. theyre out to get me i swear
Please merge
>>>/hobby/18223 into the current Star Wars Thread
>>>/hobby/15143 since that's where the topic belongs and its literally at the bottom of catalog for no reason. Thanks.
If possible, can
>>>/hobby/18273 be merged into the /x/ thread
>>>/hobby/36720 It's a bit of a tough ask given how old the thread is, but it would be a shame for it to just get bumped off Catalog.
>>>/hobby/2221 Mods were planning on putting this thread in >>>/alt_archive/ but they forgot, so I'm just bringing it up to your attention. Also on the subject of archiving; Please archive the following threads as they already reached bump limit AND have the next threads up
>>>/hobby/25977 and >>>/hobby/29827 Fashion thread #2 and #3 >>>hobby/16350 EuroFoot thread is Full and no longer relevant>>>/hobby/15840 and >>>/hobby/26632 for /fit/>>>/hobby/1857 and
>>>/hobby/2737 for Star Trek and Star Wars
>>>/hobby/551 for Furry >>>/hobby/24481 for Film
>>>/hobby/752 for Alt-Chans
>>>/hobby/15233 for /co/
>>>/hobby/7136 for Permaculture
>>>/hobby/22309 is redundant and near the bottom of Catalog. Please merge into the other poetry thread
>>>/hobby/1740 Thanks
>>31606>>31607>>31608>>31610thx for reminding/requesting on archiving some threads (more ppl should do that)
ill get around to this soon
>>31662 (me)
Pointing out for clarity (even if it's obvious) - I wrote this post,
>>31662, and none of the posts in between.
>>31674Ok, what do you mean "mods" plural.
Use your words, speak.
>>31616lol do you wanna be part of the staff at some point
you do a better job at catching up with this stuff than most of us
>>31689It's a legitimate question. Two mods were named "me" and one other. There is no indication this other mod even takes any notice of whatever is going on here.
Anyway at a certain point idiocy and maliciousness become indistinguishable.
You will be treated as having reached this indistinguishable state.
Have fun.
>>31688 I try :)
>do you wanna be part of the staff at some point That's an interesting proposition! I admit my experience in being a moderator is small and I'm not sure how often I'd be available given my work hours, but I might do it in the future.
Be aware I have never been on the Matrix, so I'll let you know there, to avoid any pretenders or whatnot.
Could >>>/siberia/514925 be moved to and merged with
>>>/hobby/37903 Since it's on Page 17 and clearly run its course on /siberia/ it would be best to put it in the main, current /strek/ thread. Thanks
>>>/AKM/ has literally 6 different threads about guerilla, it's getting out of hand, please merge them together mods.
>inb4 not the exact same topicsCorrect, however they're all about the same idea - guerilla warfare/tactics and all of the threads are slow and abstracted.
>>>/AKM/1952>>>/AKM/3972 >>>/AKM/4531 >>>/AKM/4670 >>>/AKM/2313 >>>/AKM/132 Probably too old or something but
>>>/hobby/21655 belongs in
>>>/music/
>>>/hobby/20544 >>>/hobby/17154 >>>/hobby/17986 Are all old threads asking about finding a hobby. Since (until someone necrobumped #17154) all three of these threads were on pages 33-35 of Catalog - the very bottom - then I'd encourage these threads be merged, since clearly there isn't enough interest for the topic of finding a hobby.
>>31843>>31852You should probably link those threads instead of screenshotting them, anon.
>>31846Just a silly little April Fool's gag.
>>31850Idk I think its an interesting topic/OP
>>31851Some of these can be merged together, but not all of them. I merged the ones I found fitting.
>>31854The music prod thread cant be moved to
>>>/music/ bc its too old and it would end up being deleted.
As for the other threads, I think theyre fine to leave them be.
>>31856I personally think this is very low priority and not that big of a deal but if you insist, I'll just delete the post.
>>31857Good Morning Misato!
>I think its an interesting topic Honestly I don't disagree with the TOPIC, it's the OP and how it presents the topic that makes me wary.
>music prod thread cant be moved to >>>/music/ bc its too old and it would end up being deleted. I expected that honestly
>As for the other threads I think theyre fine to leave them be Ok, I just thought it would be a good idea to bring up.
>this is very low priority and not that big of a deal I'm gonna be honest, it's better to kill bait like this right away, before someone decides to engage it and provoke another pointless, derail that the mods would have to clean up all over again, I've seen it too many times.
Thanks for your help, Ja Ne!
The Evangelion and mech threads are both decently active, but the thread comparing Gunbuster to Evangelion hasn't had a post in half a year and is steadily sinking. It has some really good discussions and effort-posts but it's a slow topic.
I think it would be a good idea to move
>>>/anime/21588 to the mech thread
>>>/anime/845 which is broader and Gunbuster is talked about in the mech thread anyway.
As a side note can the term "mecha" be added to the mech thread OP? Thanks!
>>>/hobby/12105 Should have budYenovka rather than Budenovka since it's a phoneticization of Будёновка
Please add Будёновка and Budenovka to the OP of this thread.
Also since it's already at Page 19 without much additional content, please merge >>>/siberia/516710 into the afore-mentioned Hobby thread
>>31883Nta but what about
>>31879 ?
Mods can you fix
>>>/alt_archive/4965 All the text is fucked up for most of the thread and it's unreadable. I'm posting this here instead of
>>>/tech/ because that board never gets responses. Use
>>>/hobby/1857 as the reference in fixing the text please.
This also applies to several other threads in /alt_archive/ such as the film thread, Fashion Thread, Furry thread, and others listed below.
>>>/alt_archive/613>>>/alt_archive/6025>>>/alt_archive/1 >>>/alt_archive/1226 >>>/alt_archive/5401 >>>/alt_archive/3524 >>>/alt_archive/3041Some of these threads may not be my interest but deserve to be archived properly and so fixed. Thanks.
Requesting a fix on one of my old effortposts
>>>/hobby/18737 The link
http://jalopnik.com/5903819/whos-left-in-the-old-folks-home-now-that-the-lada-rivas-gone was cut out for some reason
Section
>[4] whos-left-in-the-old-folks-home-now-that-the-lada-rivas-gone >>31895Devs are on the case.
>>31896Fixing it gives me a flood detection error :(
>>31903>Devs are on the case. NIcu
>Fixing it gives me a flood detection error :(Ah, darn. Oh well, it's not too hard to find the article again
>>31912the government can request data of the users or shut down the vpns, it's all about not making the outer internet hegemonic or useful. you're not going to use something that is useless, right? curiosity is all that remains, but just that.
even Tor they can't block because of bridges(but it's slow as fuck, which is why vpn would be better to use).
>>31914I remember him, he didn't say that, he said he was using vpn to access this site
there are many sites with servers inside china that check if a site is blocked or not, check 'em. or buy some airplane tickets idk…
I'm obviously not going to state what country I live, as it would be a very dumb thing for a Tor user to do.
>>31928do you realize how much work that would be?
here's an idea: run a counter on how many posts have been made from tor in the last idk 10 minutes and if it exceeds some threshold x% of the posts on the site, activate a variable so that if anybody reports a recent tor post with "spam" in the report field, it's automatically hidden by default for users, until mods can come review later
>>31938You're only now going insane lol
You must be very slow on the draw
Please add FALLOUT to the OP of
>>>/hobby/41241 otherwise it doesn't show up in catalog search.
>>31965done
>>31967there u go ~
>>31924 same
>It definitely seems like a marked increase in spam, derail, CSAM, etc since Oct 7.For sure. Do mods officially acknowledge this? The amount of low effort, one sentence derail posts is fucked.
>>32057 (You)
shit like this, whatever it is
>>>/leftypol/1821260 >>>/hobby/41281 belongs in the existing Star Trek thread
>>>/hobby/37903 please merge
>>32067literally almost every other website on the internet either allows or pushes zionism, why don't you go to those places instead?
why do you need the need to gentrify and colonize everywhere you go?
>>>/anime/24018 is bad-faith liberalism in motion. Even the OP wasn't so disingenuous. The Tor anon they responded to indicated no prejudice towards trans people and indeed, argued that trans people being exploited for political pandering purposes is literally a facet of capitalism. The fact that they constantly get word-filtered with 'chinlet' indicates that they're clearly someone from another site, possibly 4chan or reddit,
or even leftychan which have many toxic users. Their constant accusations of other posts being /pol/ is also suspicious as hell, it's almost like a chatbot repeating the same Permanent Token phrases repeatedly.
>>>/anime/24044 is a fun thread but it hasn't had many replies since the morning, and it is technically redundant. Please merge into the main Dragon ball thread
>>>/anime/2912 Thank you.
Are the ukraine threads not being archived anymore? Please archive the Ukraine threads
For example >>>/leftypol/1623527 was an October 2023 thread and it's neither in
>>>/leftypol/ nor
>>>/leftypol_archive/>>32215>groveling in front of these retardslol
They are incompetent, don't even bother.
>>32215Pretty sure you can just, you know,
manually change the name field to "Anonymous" like anything else.
>>>/AKM/4758 is redundant, please merge into
>>>/AKM/38 if possible, thanks.
>>32315NTA
I used the report thing a lot, but i never know if it gets any results
>>32315I used against a zionist troll on siberia yesterday
A few days ago I used against a troll who called queerfolk bourgeois decadence who should be forcefully put into camps
Jannies didn't do shit about either
>>32317assuming this isn't bait: unless you can demonstrate it'd be fast enough to be a viable board (for example because a lot of people want to leave 4/lgbt/ or because another site is collapsing and a bunch of people would come here if you made a replacement) this is a horrible idea. basically every new board has fallen flat on its ass. there's never a plan to actually build a viable board out of it - just because you build it doesn't mean anyone will come - and the end result is that this site is /leftypol/, /siberia/, /meta/, and dead-dead-dead.
making a specific board could be actively harmful: because there's a specific board, you'll find that any lgbt topics on the boards people actually use will be moved to the dead /lgbt/ board to wither and die because that's now where they "belong".
>>32317>>32313>Literal "So much for the tolerant left" rhetoric and lobbying for imitating 4chin This feels like a /pol/ troll post, or maybe leftych*n is false-reporting
again.
The LGBT thread is a General, there have been 11. This has been stated before, but an entire board for this is pointless, for the same reason we don't have individual boards for books, comics, movies etc, and have them lumped under /hobby/. A board like that is
A) Asking for idpol garbage and liberals raids
B) Literal /pol/ bait. I for one enjoy having a site where 90% of the users aren't atrocious /pol/fags
Also /lgbt/ is one of the most toxic boards on the internetz and is basically gay /b/. We already have /siberia/ and outside of the General I mentioned there is nothing stopping people from making individual random topics. Such as
>>32239
>Inb4 muh red fash or class reductionist or red-brown or le tankies!This concern tolling about "muh nazis and chinlets" reeks of reddit snowflake behaviour - we don't hide and run-away from /pol/shitters, we engage and destroy their arguments. That's why mods will allow such threads to stay up for a while, to let the local user-base tear it apart before anchoring it, in part because pic rel. Why? Because we're not sensitive babies that need to be coddled by the mods 24/7. Don't wanna engage bait? Hiding and ignoring does a whole lot more than complaining, since a response is literally what is wanted with those threads.
>>32313>trumptardsAre you the the one that made that thread complaining about 'le trump supporters' and then provided little evidence about it? I'd wager the same for the other accusations.
>>32318>a zionist troll on siberia<Wow a shitpost on si/b/eria is a shitpost! It's lefty POL as in Leftist Politically INCORRECT. Stop trying to make this place an echo-chamber. We're not a hug-box, we're an anonymous, image-posting adult discussion forum that is leftist but with the caveat of permitting other people, so long as they follow the already strict rules.
>>32354more liberals raiding the site would actually be good, as a group they have the highest possibility for conversion into regular posters at which point - even without coherent ideological education or such - the simple mechanics of acclimatising to a site's culture will drag them towards the same positions as the median leftypol poster. (i.e. "left") the real problem with an /lgbt/ board is not that it would attract raids, but that it would attract nobody while harming the line of discussion it was originally intended to harm.
also: while i'm not opposed to leaving bait up for a little while so that people can counter it, the idea thats that /pol/ can actually be destroyed by argument, that not wanting the political equivalent of spam is "running away" or "snowflake behaviour", or that moderators maintaining the board's quality are "coddling" the userbase reflect an underlying ideology that is unhelpful and at odds with empirical experience.
furthermore there's a borderline-contradiction between your image and your final line: hide and engage bait because they only want engagement, but engage bait because to fail to do so gives the impression the ideas are accepted.
>>32356the idea that "pol" should be considered an acronym for "politically incorrect" and not just "politics" is one of the dumber ones out there. it's an artefact title based on a retarded stock phrase.
(and i say this as someone broadly supportive of letting people with contentious foreign policy views argue. i would say that the current opinion of the site is positive to letting nazis post so they can be argued with, positive about letting capitalists/ancaps/etc post so that they can be argued with, but more afraid of letting pro-NATO/West foreign policy types post under the same terms.)
>>32231>>32232You can change the name to literraly
anything else except "Anonymous"
>>32356lol lmao
Tell your handlers to rework the whole bit from the ground up.
>>32366The fuck are you talking about?
>>32364Glad to make you laugh m8, cheers! Good luck with fixing the archived threads BTW.
Sorry this kinda became long even after editing. Sage for partial offtopic
>>32360 >more liberals raiding the site would actually be good I've said this too many times over the years. No they wouldn't. When reddit kicked its radical liberals out and Chapo came to us, the board was flooded by liberals with subversive takes, sounding leftist but pushing liberalism while attacking any opposition with "muh red brown/tankie/class-reductionist". For months we had awful threads gaslighting users and making the site an infighting shitshow. They're far LESS likely to change or acclimate 'cause liberalism is a subversive fascism and the enemy of leftism, meant to infiltrate and destroy from within, not by direct confrontation. A 5th Column if you will, and such a 5th Column is far more dangerous to the left than easily identifiable fascists intruding here.
>moderators maintaining the board's quality are "coddling" the userbase reflect an underlying ideology that is unhelpful and at odds with empirical experience. See the video in
>>32356 The userbase gives bad takes a retort and made these people leave, without the need for mods to ban excessively and rightly so. Simultaneously it allows people to actually have debates and discuss subjects with opponents while also learning to not get offended about the rants of an anonymous person on an obscure site, which is helpful in making a more coherent and nuanced understanding of socialism and a more hardened person; You need to know it well enough to actually be able to justify it in debate against people that hate it, 'cause these same arguments are what we must use to justify it to the proletarians who are not yet class conscious. It's why I made the /edu/ debunk thread too, so as to coherently address common myths and misconceptions.
Also privately I have fun tearing apart Nazi myths and lies. The mods have enough on their plates as is, and dealing with ACTUAL spam of CP and gore and soy, and addressing blatant rubbish is what they should do. We're an anonymous political imageboard, if a person can't handle some mean words and opposition, then this is the wrong place for that.
And while NTA but I'll address the following too:
>the idea that "pol" should be considered an acronym for "politically incorrect" and not just "politics" is one of the dumber ones It's literally the name's origin, assigned to what Moot wanted to make as a containment board for politics, still following 4chan's idea of freezepeech. It was parody of the hot buzzword of the time; Politically Correct, ergo Politically INCorrect. The beginnings of leftypol came from /pol/ boards as we got tired of under-age posters raiding threads about communism, thus Old BO made /leftypol/ as the leftist alternative, and the rest is history (well there's some other stuff with bunkerchan, but you get my gist).
>more afraid of letting pro-NATO/West foreign policy types post under the same terms. Not afraid, it's just tedious and annoying, 'cause you can't ignore literal Glowies or they'll start Consensus Cracking or use other COINTEL methods, yet taking apart their arguments is an exercise in repetition that gets tiresome (which is another COINTEL tactic - to grind down subversive groups by spamming bad faith takes until they grow tired and unmotivated, allowing them the chance to infiltrate and post diversionary crap.
With /pol/ you can either engage and have fun pissing them off while educating everyone ITT, OR hide and ignore, starving them for attention and forcing them to try harder, leading to breaking the rules and getting banned. /pol/fags also change tactics, adapted and pushed new areas that force users to discuss and understand their ideology and its history. What use is it to be a "socialist" when some fag like Ben Shapiro can "tear socialism apart with facts and logic"? Every one of his political debates have been retarded 'cause these self-proclaimed 'socialists' that opposed him understood it no better than he did, and had no response, despite half of leftypol being able to give his 'questions' proper retorts that would likely change viewers' minds; hell I've done this IRL and gotten people to do an about-face turn about socialism and Shapiro by debunking him point by point. There was a skinhead I knew; had a fight with him for talking shit. Afterwards we debated and I explained to him what was wrong with fascism and why his ideas of socialism were myths, exposing the contradictions and truth. The dude did a complete 180 and became an active socialist opposing nazi-shit.
In short, /pol/-shitters are very obvious most times and are a 'safe' way of preventing echo-chamber on the site. They break the rules too easily 'cause they're used to 4chan and get banned if they push too far, and before that point they provide an essential unifying enemy for the board. Liberals and NAFO are like a disease by comparison, infesting the site from within and much harder to recover from compared to the superficial, metaphorical bruises /pol/ leaves (and we give back).
>>32376>Was a different time.Not really IMO
>It's time we break with /pol/LOL
>>32381>>32381>Only applies to some boardsnta don't people deserve a policy statement or something if this is happening?
also, are threads like this >>>/leftypol/1832728 something we want on /leftypol/? a clone of it with the same picrels appeared a few days ago
>>31903>Devs are on the case. As another user of the archives, do we have a possible ETA? No rush just wondering since I checked on an old fit thread in the archive, noticed the issue and upon coming here and CTRL + Fing, found that someone had already mentioned the code being messed up ITT.
Thanks!
>>32391o7
another thread just appeared >>>/leftypol/1832877 wtf are they?
>>32393And what's the point of dunking on your retarded drunk uncle?
>>32395Did the first, had to search for the conspiracy thread.
>>32399>what's the point of dunking on your retarded drunk uncle?More like the retarded drunk neighbor. And its funny to see them try and pick a fight only to end up making a fool of themselves. Besides as I explained in
>>32373 it lets us sharpen our arguments and understanding of socialism.
>Did the first, had to search for the conspiracy thread. Thanks for moving that one, no big rush on the DBZ one, just asking.
>>32367You can discuss with nazis if you want to, you just have to be doing it for your own amusement rather than for their salvation.
>>32373However much you try to frame it as avoiding tedium, I'm going to read it as fear. You aren't sufficiently confident that the site can hold its own against liberals - you imagine that they might actually "subvert" something. You imagine that infighting on a website is something to be feared, rather than something to be managed in pursuit of the most interesting discussion possible. You've said that arguing with Nazis helps refine arguments for socialism - great - but the ability to argue for socialism contra social-democracy has fallen off a cliff since all the socdems, keynesians, and other boring-but-nice little weirdos have fucked off - and I'll tell you, it's not because they all saw the light of Marxism-Leninism. This board's
peak came when it was a massive shitshow of people using flags to show their ideology and arguing against one another! The more ideologically conformist it has become, the more tedious it has become. Like with 4chan, I find my thought process often runs:
Novel thread idea > imagine what the replies will be like > don't bother. It'd be one thing if I suspect 20 people were each going to call me an idiot and misunderstand my post in different ways - if I was told to kill myself by MLs, Maoists, Bookchinites, Anarchists, the odd ancap, a social democrat, a technocrat and a fucking Narodnik, that would be
interesting, but that's not the board we have today.
r.e. video: I'm all for leaving a basic nazi thread up to argue with for fun. It's on more sensitive idpol topics, or when a thread that was actively discussing something else starts to be derailed that it's time to step in.
Your potted history of the term politically incorrect obscures more than it reveals: Bill Maher hosted a show by that name from 1993-2002. He didn't originate it, but Moot wasn't subverting some notion of political correctness with the name - "political correctness" was already a right-wing boogyman and had been for decades. I know plenty about imageboard history: I just don't respect it. If I could have a year zero I would.
Now here's my angle: It doesn't matter if glowies come in because they can't subvert the basic dynamics of a site like this any more than they can subvert gravity. Fundamentally, the gravity of the site will always lean towards posturing as a "Tankie". This is what the average user already does - they're not well read, they're not performing serious analysis, they're pushing a vague vibe, same as everywhere else. That they're slightly better read is more or less a coincidence. In an era of ideological diversity this board might've pushed people to read to advance their argument against other flagposters, but nowadays you can just bluff.
There is always a tendency towards contrarianism on an anonymous board like this, and if the mainstream of imageboards is naziism and the mainstream of other sites is liberalism, that leaves a pretty clear corner to carve out for draping yourself in the flag of the Eastern Bloc. Liberalism is particularly vulnerable on an imageboard because a big part of its strength is posturing as a reasonable adult, but nobody wants to be a reasonable adult on an imageboard - telling someone you'll gulag them on Twitter makes
you look silly, you and 20 people saying they'll do it on an imageboard makes
their thread look silly. Other left ideologies simply don't have the aesthetic or historical clout - you cannot post pictures of Anarchist fighter jets, or discuss what Bookchin did for Opera, or listen to any good Post-Keynesian party songs. If you aren't confident of dominating the board with a home-field advantage this big, something is terribly wrong. If this site can't dogpile and tear-apart NAFO types or Democrats the way it does Nazis, it's already terminally ill. I don't seriously believe that it is - but I do believe the cure lies in bringing in some actual dissent, I believe the cure is in trying to actually grow the userbase rather than wait for it all to slowly bleed away. If they're all idiots, fine: It's no fun in the NKVD when you've got nobody to liquidate. It's no fun discussing foreign policy with people who'll only report to you that there's been another crushing victory for multipolarism after the Empire of Japan's crushing victory down at Iwo Jima.
It's no fun, and that's the problem.
(If you'd like to keep going with this, feel free to make a thread.)
>>32401>However much you try to frame it as avoiding tedium, I'm going to read it as fear. In other words you don't actually care about what others think, just what fits your view of this.
> you imagine that they might actually "subvert" something I don't, it was visibly obvious.
>You imagine that infighting on a website is something to be feared, rather than something to be managed in pursuit of the most interesting discussion possible Does left unity ring a bell? We argue already as is, there's no point in throwing in a volatile catalyst to destabilize things and make every conversation a bitch-fest in the making, that's literally the opposite of helpful.
> the ability to argue for socialism contra social-democracy has fallen off a cliff since all the socdems, keynesians I'm not talking about petty welfare capitalists, as those people argue through economics, which is still something to debate, I'm specifically talking about liberals that promote idpol bait, because such topics are polarizing and its very easy to make an OP with a snide attack on the site's users, then scream "bigot" when people rightfully attempt to debunk such rhetoric. It happens Every. Single. Time. It doesn't contribute to arguments or theory, because it always devolves into circular arguments and denial and ends up as just people flinging shit and ad hominum and generally lowering the level of board discussion to the levels of 4chan (ironically).
>The more ideologically conformist it has become It's not conformist - people are constantly debating, arguing and discussing. People complain about shit like "muh Dengists" or "Muh ziggers" and ignore that those threads have heated discussions about socio-economic and political positions regarding those topics, and while there are some generally accepted positions, the details are gone over back and forth constantly.
>Bill Maher hosted a show by that name from 1993-2002Yes I know, but /pol/ was created in 2011 as a replacement for /news/ and /n/ a decade after Maher's show and right when the SJW vs Alt-Right shitfest was developing and when the term politically correct began being thrown around a lot, which is why politically INcorrect was the response.
>already a right-wing boogyman Huh? Political correctness is literally a liberal spook, it's performative nonsense no different from any other appeasement tactic.
>It doesn't matter if glowies come in because they can't subvert the basic dynamics of a site like this any more than they can subvert gravityThat is a statement that fucking glows because they can and have done such things. What the fuck do you think COINTEL PRO is for?
>nobody wants to be a reasonable adult on an imageboard Well that and also liberalism is only POSTURING, and have legs of clay
>If you aren't confident of dominating the board with a home-field advantage this big That's not it, we've fended it off multiple times, the point is that it gets tiresome in a way that bashing nazis isn't. The Nazi is either comedically inept and so a source of humor, or actually comes up with new material that forces people to learn. There's a Gay Nazi flag poster who is a nazi, and while they're told to fuck off for some takes, they also provide actual discussion that forces users to either respond properly and THINK or expose themselves as ignoramuses.
With liberals and glowies, it's always the same tired shit, the same fallacious methods of deflecting arguments, ignoring or dismissing proof and then repeating debunked or unproven claims, ad infinitum/ad nauseum. It's boring, it doesn't make me question my understanding of socialism, it just makes me want to reach through the screen and make them take their meds. It's like arguing with an alzheimer's patient with paranoid schizophrenia; They sound coherent initially to those unable to read between the initial lines, and when they're exposed and forced to face reality, they instead retract and start looping the same shit, leaving the only response being to not respond. But the problem is not responding results in such retarded ideas being allowed to be read and take root unchallenged, resulting in consensus cracking.
>Grow the userbaseI agree, but it's not something to rush into.
>It's no fun in the NKVD when you've got nobody to liquidate. It's no fun discussing foreign policy with people who'll only report to you that there's been another crushing victory for multipolarism after the Empire of Japan's crushing victory down at Iwo Jima. It's no fun, and that's the problem. LOL, for someone stating that you don't respect imageboard history, you sure are promoting a fairly oldschool concept of leftypol. I agree.
>If you'd like to keep going with thisNot really cuz I'm tired and I have work, but make a thread anyway, I'm sure others will chime in. Good night.
Please merge
>>>/anime/17031 into the ANIMETA thread
>>>/anime/17031, as this interesting but currently dead thread is on Page 24 and is related to the OP.
Thanks
>>32482 (samefag)
fwiw I just tried to upload files to different threads and the policy seems coherent
>>32373>Arguing with Nazis refines the arguments of socialistsMost people aren’t sympathetic to Nazism, they’re sympathetic to liberalism
Most people already see bolshevik style communism as better than Nazism
Few see any type of communism as better than liberalism
You need to refine your arguments against liberals that can actually present compelling arguments to people that aren’t brain poisoned by racism and inceldom
Liberals promote freedom and liberty, Nazis promote race wars, one is far more compelling to the average person than the other
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