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Why is it socially acceptable if not encouraged in all political axes to hate work but it's considered blasphemous to hate school?

Why is it that whenever I ask most people what they learn in school, all they tell is the dumb shenanigans they committed, even to the point of wanting to officiate "rites of passage" based on dumb reckless childish stunts, but they cannot remember one intellectual thing?


Whenever adults are asked to help with schoolwork, their minds are blank. Whenever it comes to bullying, they have no backbone except for punishing victims for self defense.

I notice that the people who miss school the most usually are those with no work ethic or people who kinda have some unfulfilled teenage quests.

I'm not against schooling, but we need to revamp it entirely. Trying to segregate worldly factors from the classroom for the sake of "protecting the younguns" usually results in an immature society.

I believe a lot of our problems with labor and education is due to how modern society views them as parallel worlds with differing rules.

School should reflect the workforce in social treatment, type of tasks, and infrastructural design

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>>1540
Parents are terrible life coaches by themselves. They either smother, neglect, or neglect the children. Very few parents know how to raise kids into adulthood without traumatizing them.

That's why parents should have mandatory third-party adults to back them up and keep them in check.

>>1560
>Likewise education is highly flawed but it serves a very important purpose. If we want to have an actual advanced civilization based on mutual cooperation, we need an educated populace that has at least a bare minimum understanding of how the world works.

Irony is,the world was built by illiterate tradesmen and still is today.
Also ironic is that the more time someone spends in school, the less grasp they have of how the real world works.

Any level of education beyond middle school that does not involve technical skills is prone to pretentiousness

>>1561
Yes, repeatedly, but there's no country on earth where the educational outputs seem in line with the time inputs, even before you factor in the senseless imprisonment-like elements.

It's a culture of anti-intellectualism which is seeded by bourgeois propaganda and spread by ignorant dolts. This whole notion that labor and the fostering of intellect should be seen as two separate, even mutually exclusive activities is absurd.

>>1586
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the natural sciences and engineering are examples of "how the real world works". Those illiterate tradesmen were following orders from actual engineers who, you know, move beyond middle school education.



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There's been lots of speculation around if AI hype will actually materialize into real job displacement but this study from nov 2025 pretty definitetively shows we are in the beginning stages of it. https://digitaleconomy.stanford.edu/app/uploads/2025/11/CanariesintheCoalMine_Nov25.pdf

>Early-career workers

(ages 22-25) in AI-exposed occupations experienced 16% relative employment declines, controlling for firm-level shocks, while employment for experienced workers remained stable

so basically the only group still experiencing headcount growth are mid-career professionals 35+.
22-25 are declining, and 26-34 are stagnating and likely to start declining as well.
And keep in mind publicly available AI only just came out in 2022, and yet this level of displacement has already started, You don't need some futuristic level AGI or something like that, its already happening. This also can't be explained by tarriffs or general business uncertainty as well, because the GDP growth is up 4% and the study controls for firm level shocks. If you're in a white collar profession, especially if entry level, hold onto your job for dear life and hoard savings.
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>>1573
That's less due to AI and more due to western people advocating to raise the age of majority to twenty five

>>1574
>so neets wont even have a home to LDAR in
wdym most millennials are going to inherit their parents' homes

>>1585
The "great wealth transfer" is massively overstated and millenials will get very little. Even if you do get a house out of it, how are you paying the utilities, the property taxes and all other associated expenses as a AI displaced NEET. Whatever millenials do get homes will find it more of a burden than a savior.

>>1573
this is solved by boomer dying

when I was younger I never understood how people kill their parents, now I get it

Sad that it's the young, entry level workers who are getting fucked as predicted. There is literally no bottom rung of the ladder anymore. I look at people age 18 to 30 in my life and most of them are truly broke. I'm 30 and I only have one friend who owns a home and it's a modest one he needed a partner to afford.



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Why does porky need some guy who can make spreadsheets and harvard 22 years to tell a 55 year old ceo to do his job with a powerpoint? and then make that guy a middle manager after he leaves mckinsey?
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>>167
those are low end consultants. I think this is about high end "management" consulting.

>>160
That's how capitalism spreads knowledge between different companies

It's a combination of factors.
<money laundering
<scapegoating
<performance for shareholders
<performance for management (convincing yourself you're actually doing something)
<actually trying to trim the "fat" in the business
etc

>>160
its several things
-rubber stamping
-status signaling
-self soothing

>>160
Undoubtedly there will be someone in the comments who will make a bad argument as to why
Y'all act like Siberia is for shit posting when clearly labor should be renamed into wagie cagie or labor aristocracy



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Was tricked to sign a letter of resignation from my job at the russian post office. Despite the fact that I was on probation and my employment contract was fixed-term (although informally after its termination they almost always offer a full-time position) my…I don't know - supervisor? the main bitch of the workplace? didn't like me because of a couple of fuckups like a cash shortage, which I was really guilty of and paid for out of my own pocket (the statement of financial responsibility was signed by me on the first day of employment), and she decided to lie that the employee I was replacing was about to go to work.
Which was an easily verifiable lie that I realized literally as I closed the door behind me. Ah, yes, since I quit "at my own request", I have to work for three days, so called "otrabotka" (two weeks if you were taken without probation), which I will not do (devilish?), because after signing my resignation letter I am no longer an employee and can not be forced to work.
Also new thing I learned opening the labor code for the first time.
-there is no concept of working after dismissal, but there is a concept of notification before dismissal, so it should be 3 days or 2 weeks before the fact.

Thanks for reading my stupid rant.
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i gave up applying to jobs. i survive off 1900 bucks a month in a mcol in burgerstan. knowing the economy is going to shit has me more precarious than ever. I'm forced to live with an ex and life is hell.

I finally got a new job. McDonalds, took a few applications to one location to get a call back. Did my training shift, and then got my schedule. I got three 4 hour shifts. The total pay will be less than $150 after taxes.

When I first got hired I felt some relief, finally a job, finally stable income, finally no more e-begging. But the job doesn't pay nearly enough to actually do anything with the money. My weekly rent in this motel is $364 dollars. I'm making less than half that on my current schedule.

It's hard to not feel despair at this, because I will almost certainly be street homeless within the immediate future, even with a job. And it took so long to get hired for even the most basic of jobs that finding a second one seems like it will take just as long.

If I'm street homeless, it will become especially hard to maintain my magazine/website, thankfully I have a team now who works with me and can takeover if I'm in a position to not do it, but still.

Compound that with all the internalized capitalist propaganda I still have within me, the burger flipper narrative, the "useless eater" narrative, and it's a harsh set of emotions. Really doubting myself lately, despite knowing the logic, the statistics, the theory, the feeling of being a "failure" is very strong right now. The feeling that I haven't done enough, haven't worked hard enough, contributed enough to deserve to be housed. I know its a spook, but it still haunts.

>>1564
Why not get a trade and earn real money and what is your magazine about anyway and why are you publishing a magazine when we have the Internet

Some dickhead wanted me to give him a deal on a pizza and when i said I'd get in trouble he was like "you'd be making my day" bitch I just said i could get fired

>>1591
Wait I just remembered, he said "Have you ever taken a leap of faith?"



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Does anyone here help organize like labor unions and tenants unions and so on?

I was thinking that the nonprofit industry/social worker sector might be very useful to unionize. It could help mitigate some of the harms of the nonprofit activist industrial complex by giving more power to the workers instead of the CEOs. I'm sure lots of NEETs here interact with social programs. It takes five seconds to ask your support workers if they've looked into unionizing.

Anyhow would love to your thoughts on praxis in general
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>I was thinking that the nonprofit industry/social worker sector might be very useful to unionize.
I've recently begun considering social work as a career path is it worth it?

>>966
That's fucked up

>>674
You should study the great October socialist revolution.

Creating a participatory/democratic class organization is the correct thing to do. The bolsheviki created the Soviets with other left factions and then struggled democratically within them for political leadership over the movement. If you don't commit to a structural Democratic form of organizing the class you end up in a position where political line gets propagated and accepted on the basis of the technical skills of whatever cadre follow that line not actual mass acceptance of the political doctrine behind it. This leads to an overestimation of forces and political prematurity. You can look at the humiliating failure of the dual union period in domestic communist policy in the United States for a clear view of what happens when you try to organize all of the radical elements and organizations separate from the rest of the class rather than creating democratic class organizations and functioning within them for political leadership. The reason that the strategy of boring from within was defeated in addition to the overall political moment was the fact that existing unions were not democratic, but when you're creating new organizations you don't have that problem. The Union Democratic struggle also allows communists to establish themselves in parallel to the proletariat's overall political task as described by Lenin as " the vanguard fighter for democracy".

>>667
its only econonmism if you're purely focused on just extracting concessions. Unions that strike for more than just labor issues are good. Like the unions who striked in minneapolis.

>>1588
There were strikes?



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Recruiting is literally the biggest joke of all time. Genuinely when I attend recruiting events its like the most suffocating, artificial vibe i've ever seen in my life. Everyone, from the students, to the recruiters, to the professionals are faking everything. "Networking" is essentially just sucking up to whatever recruiter, manager, or employee you can find and bothering them with nothing burger emails. Recruiters probably get literally thousands of emails from students who all think they're special. Networking job fairs are filled to the brim with a bunch of sweaty peeople in suits trying to prostrate themselves the best for some dumb internship. Linkedin is just a cesspool of the most performative and fake characters of all time, In fact i'd say a good plurlity of all posts and job listings on linkedin are AI generated and fake. I genuinely can't wait until AI destroys white collar america and all the former Excel desk jockeys can be part of the revolutionary vanguard.
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>>1569
as in they realize association among proletarians leading a stateless propertyless moneyless society as a necessity or do they just want welfare reforms?

>>1570
I've directly spoken about marxism and not gotten a negative response so thats hopeful

Networking is just a euphemism people with actual connections use to obfuscate their nepotism.

>recruiting event

Literally pointless. It's basically just one big ad these days. It's just 100x different iterations of 'please apply at our website, scan this qr code'/'we don't have any current entry-level or intern positions available'.

Networking should just become a euphemism for sex or something. It would be a more honest way of getting a job.

>>1576
Yes recruiters literally meet hundreds of students and get thousands of emails, what makes anyone think they’re special or will be uniquely remembered unless they have some special connection.



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is there really a shortage? I think I can fake my way into a job in accounting with a bit of studying if anyone is hiring, rather do this than apply to a billion ghost jobs in tech

the "shortage" is overstated. The shortage mostly exists among late career professionals and AI and outsourcing is not helping things either. You'll need a 4 year degree in accounting to get hired anywhere. There are opportunities and certainly not as bad as tech is, atleast right now, but I can't say how it'll be in 4 years.



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>Always worked off the books
>Decide to try being legit
>Make LinkedIn account
>Find interesting new job opening, save it
>Next day: Closed, 30+ applicants

Why the fuck does anyone bother with this shit?
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>>1383
tbh that's recent now that everything is total shit, every job i've landed except my first two was through linkedin's inbox

>>1448
Why are you even on leftypol if you can't even bring yourself to criticize LinkedIn of all things?

Go stick your face in bourgeois asshole and take a big smell of the farts over on linkedin

>>1558
>Why are you even on leftypol if you can't even bring yourself to criticize LinkedIn of all things?

Are you functionally illiterate? I just explained to you why linkedin is crap. Wow, those corona years really did a number on your people's education.

Just get a goverment job like me
The pay is meh but it's safe and they desperately need people so your CV can be overlooked

half of jobs on linkedin are fake and just there for data harvesting



 

Childhood
>veterinarian
>pilot
>sorcerer
Teen years
>soldier
>musician,
>serial killer(Yes, I'm from the U.S.)



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>>1546
>serial killer(Yes, I'm from the U.S.)
its hard but if you get into Delta Force you can get paid to be a serial killer.

>>1549
It's just too hard to be a serial killer nowadays. Maybe if it was the 1970s or 80s it could be an actual goal.

>>1546
legit no one ever asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up so I didn't give it a single thought. It ended up screwing me though because I didn't have an idea of what to do in college and switched majors like twice, dropped out, and returned like 10 years later.

>>1550
it's hard to determine,because it's reverse survivor bias,if you don't get caught,you can't appear in the statistics
and if you look at the number of unresolved murders,it's probally either easier than you think,or the pigs really do not give a shit anymore even about the most ethical part of their jobs.

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>child

<Engineer

don't ask what kind of engineer i just used to watch this show called "tiny planets" where they had all these contraptions and i wanted to make them
<Guerrilla fighter
i grew up listening to stories about the FARC from my father
<Game developer
I used to make RPG Maker tech demos with a friend who made plugins for it
>teen

<Gunsmith

I picked up learning about guns because i was a nerdy feminine kid so i figured i had to learn about ways to defend myself
<Mercenary
I drifted through the idea of joining the YPG or leaving to the French Foreign Legion to get military experience then join any PMC that would take a brown repper
<Transexual pornstar
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What is the coziest job? I love the idea of being a fisherman. Can you imagine being a Scandinavian fisherman? Must be awesome.

I fantasize a lot about being a hard-bodied young man sailing across the world, exploring all of Europe, all the while serving my nation by being the best Fisherman in all the land. Hopefully I will reincarnate into something like that. Unfortunately I'm a lazy-eyed, glasses-wearing, wimpy little freak.
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>>1526
It probably depends on where you work

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I always wanted to be an inland waterway boatman when I was younger. I thought the biggest part of the job would be drinking tea and watching the world go by. Don’t know how it really is tho.

Computer programmer. You just sit on your ass all day solving fun puzzles while making huge amounts of money and changing the world for the better.

>>1531
now give us your serious answer

>>1531
I do this except the money isn't huge, just comfy, and I don't make the world a better place. However, the puzzles are fun and I agree it's the coziest job if you have the right personality to stare at a screen all day.



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