>>717515no? all of them predict a lower total americas population than the 1963 one used in the OP image, they all tend to predict about 50 million in total
>>717514i'm not saying they didn't have urban centers, or even advanced towns, that's an insane claim, instead what i'm claiming is easier to get, the urban centers in question were less of the continent than they were in europe, and not organized as much, and without many loyalists