[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo / 420 ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/siberia/ - Off-topic

"No chin, no right to speak."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)
What is 6 - 2?

Check out our new store at shop.leftypol.org!

| Catalog | Home
|

 

Why does anyone believe in god/gods, taking into account that there's no sign of intelligent design anywhere we've looked? Life is just random chance, the laws that rule the universe are arbitrary and meaningless, it's all chaos. So why invent this mystical thingy that helps explain nothing about our reality and creates more questions instead?
51 posts and 7 image replies omitted.

File: 1788077090225-2.jpg (133.19 KB, 1024x765, Heraclitus-1-1024x765.jpg)

>>819386
>exterior cause
I never proposed an exterior cause, but only saw the cause of "stuff" as internal; e.g. stuff comes from stuff. Your incoherent alternative is that stuff can come from not-stuff, but you know that's impossible. I never invoked "creation", either, that was the other anon, since its impossible to "create" matter. That's why reality is uncreated/eternal - and so time must also thus, by necessity, come from the timeless.
>>819476
The ancients reckoned that matter is uncreated, and that time was an imposition upon matter by a deity, since time must begin after the margin of chaos. Flux is then presupposed as eternal, with time being a type of local order which allows for the formation of natural bodies. A deity puts matter into a harmony we call "time", or relative motion; so absolute motion is the same as stillness (as we read in Heraclitus).
>>819509
>Evidence
Logic is built from self-evidence. That is the nature of it.

>>819284
>We see in the Epic of Gilgamesh (2000 BCE) not a single hope for an afterlife. Homer (800 BCE) denies any idea of Heaven. Hesiod (700 BCE) speaks of the "Isle of the Blessed" as a sort of Heaven. It is only really with Plato (380 BCE) that we see a full belief in both Heaven and Hell.
OH FUCK SMITH ANON IS IN SIBERIA

>>819284
>>819280
>people invented god to express their alienation from a cold and uncaring universe
>>819284
>I don't really believe that - at least in general […] We see that religious faith is highest in the least well-off, and so the fantasy of revenge (e.g. Hell) and reward (e.g. Heaven) is attributed by Nietzsche to be symptom of "slave morality". Slaves are the most alienated and so are most religious - but its a matter of cause and effect.

Bruh you said you don't believe that but then you backed up his argument.

>>819590
It requires subtlety, nonetheless.
The fantasy of religion is particular to historical development, since otherwise the human condition would permit the full indulgences of sublime reward at all times. I don't take Nietzsche's argument that the Bronze Age was a paradise seriously, since Gilgamesh bemoans his fate unto death - the Freudian point would be that Death Anxiety induces fantasies of immortality, yet immortality is barred from Gilgamesh. So it cannot be a purely psychological affair. We see in the Bible, litters of economic metaphors concerning "wages of sin" and "heavenly treasures" and parables of God as a creditor. The very structure of "Judgement" is a courtroom, as an example, so courts must historically precede its idea, with justice being renumeration. I might say then that material alienation precedes the psychology of alienation, with fantasy as a medium. So, it is society which creates God, as a reflection of itself, and God is internalised in this way. It's the same way science fiction isn't really about the future, but the present.

File: 1788128656638-7.jpg (181.63 KB, 796x1000, 16.jpg)

>>819586
>I never proposed an exterior cause, but only saw the cause of "stuff" as internal; e.g. stuff comes from stuff.
<Note, then, to begin with, that things cannot act upon each other and turn into one another at random, unless it be by incidental concomitance ; for how (to take an example) could culture, as such, ‘ become’ pallor ? A man of culture, who had been of a swarthy coinplexion, might indeed become pale, and so the person we had described as ‘ cultured’ might come to be a person we describe as ‘ pale,’ but only incidentally to the fact that the cultured person who became pale had other qualities concomitantly with his culture ; for he cannot ‘become’ pale on the mere strength of already having some quality other than pallor to start from, unless that quality is on the specific line of antithesis to pallor—swarthiness or some intermediate shade.
P.53, Aristotle The Physics Vol-i : Philip H Wicksteed : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive https://share.google/4RXCkmBwZhxzenv2v
If I read this correctly, something can't change into something else without being the "patient" of an external "agent " - unless it already had the necessary qualities characteristic of what it changes into in it already , in which case it would already be that thing.
>The ancients reckoned that matter is uncreated, and that time was an imposition upon matter by a deity, since time must begin after the margin of chaos.
>A deity puts matter into a harmony we call "time", or relative motion; so absolute motion is the same as stillness (as we read in Heraclitus).
Like in Genesis?. God doesn't create matter out of nothing, but out of watery chaos.
But what caused the watery chaos?
And later in the Bible, there is a reference to God smiting the heads of dragons in the waters. What were dragons doing in the waters?

It's all very unsatisfying. If the gods didn't cause Matter to physically exist, but just tweaked it to give it Form, the question of why everything exists, rather than nothing, isn't answered.



 

I think leftoids are kind of cute
2 posts omitted.

File: 1788102789858-7.jpeg (528.39 KB, 1500x1500, IMG_5054.jpeg)

Google Bioleninism

>>819634
The guy on the top right is a gigachad

>>819634
That's quite a sample. You're supposed to extract a typical phenotype from that? Because it ranges from "not even with a ten foot pole" to "you make my kokoro go doki doki senpai <3"

File: 1788114044563-0.jpg (170.83 KB, 1200x675, kokoro skip.jpg)

>>819673
Which ones make your kokoro go doki doki?

>>819634
Completele nonsense empirically, like where the fuck do you see these disgenic identities elavated, top of society in liberal democracies consists mostly out of elite school raised psychopaths. Ironically right wing politics are basically the only venue for uneducated low culture low autism score untermensch to raise above. Like look at any right wing populist politician and contrast them with their more center or leftist counteparts.



 

Stop having children. There are more than enough people on the planet as it is, we don't need any more. We're all full up, thank you. Stop. Having. Kids. Reasons to stop having kids:

  1. They consume too many resources over the course of their life; your kid drains resources from the rest of the world. Is that what you want?
  2. Human beings contribute to ecological ruin through overfishing, deforestation, and other such activity, and that includes human overpopulation
  3. Your kid probably won't amount to much anyway, and if the technocrats succeed in making AI that displaces the entire workforce, then your kid will live in squalor as a result of a lack of economic opportunity, and that's the last thing you want, right?
  4. The Halocene Extinction is ongoing and we're all going to die, DON'T YOU GET IT, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE, LARGE SWATHES OF THE PLANET WILL BECOME INHOSPITABLE AND WE'LL BE PACKED LIKE SARDINES INTO THE LANDMASSES THAT ARE LEFT. Is that what you want, for your kid to live in jobless purposeless squalor in a slum with third-worlders from the global south, who they have to fight against tooth and nail in order to secure for themselves what little resources that remain?
  5. Kids are a pain in the ass anyway, and you won't be able to write that book, or develop that game, or do whatever it is that you wanted to do if you have to drop everything to tend to your child (and you're a piece of shit if you delegate the child rearing to someone else like your in-laws)
  6. Basically, there are no upsides to having a child, save for the boost to your ego that you might gain for having successfully achieved the biological imperative (not that impressive, I know crackheads who managed to pop out some kids)


There are many more reasons, I'm sure, but that's more than enough for you to chew on. STOP. HAVING. CHILDREN. STOP IT. Don't do it. You help no one, least of all the child you bring into this boiling piss pot of a planet.
106 posts and 18 image replies omitted.

>>819362
>And what? Who cares, that's largely inconsequential, and other people's kids do have the potential to be an inconvenience.

So do dogs and partnered adults and disabled and elderly. Yet it’s considered wrong to discriminate against disabled and elderly and romantic partners in the same way we do to children.

Most anti-natalism concerns are rooted in seeing children as leeches. They don’t take into account adult consumption of resources for non-essential purposes.
They even promote shameless adult self-indulgence

>>819316
>Personally I don't think men are as invested in that that type of thinking because women are most likely to become primary caregivers anyways so they are more likely to worry about that. Men can just deposit their seed and move on or kick back and let the woman worry about running a household

You couldn’t be more wrong. Men are more into antinatalism than women. Women are often the ones wanting to have a baby to “seal the deal” in relationships. I swear this place has shallow distorted view of gender just like the rightoids they complain about.

>>815537
>>819362
>>816927
>>818086
It’s amazing that you will complain about “muh eugenics” whenever someone suggests that people with hereditary disabilities shouldn’t be allowed to breed.
But, you have no problem with wanting to kill unborn kids for “moral” convenience.

Also
>shoot every breeder moid in the dick

Yet, there’s no proposal for violence on breeder foids?


>>818890
Reddit doesn’t need to be excessively edgy like imageboards are. Tbh I prefer it being “saccharine/inoffensive”.

>>818086
>>819243
>>819261
>>819362
>>819463
>>819470
>Kill everyone capable of having kids
>Being a parent makes you a fascist chud
>Nobody should be allowed to have kids or else Mother Nature (Peace Be Upon Xer) will hecking die
All Reddit tier views by the way.

>>819463
>You couldn’t be more wrong. Men are more into antinatalism than women. Women are often the ones wanting to have a baby to “seal the deal” in relationships. I swear this place has shallow distorted view of gender just like the rightoids they complain about.
Maybe it's just what I've seen on Reddit but it does seem like more women use the childfree and antinatalist subreddits. Often one of their main complaints is that men often trap women in pregnancies and that seems to be a common sentiment, at least among the female part. Not that they don't blame the female for her part but I feel they tend to put the blame more on the man. Also in the comment your replying to I did try to differentiate between the childfree and antinatalist communities as while there's crossover their is some differences. Or at least that's how they try to portray themselves. I did say that women predominate more in the childfree subreddit. I think antinatalism might be more equal or possibly male dominant, at least on Reddit. Also childfree is more of a dating preference anyways.

>>819463
  1. it's considered wrong to discriminate against people in general.
  2. there are too many people is about as simple as I get it for you. we can't kill people who are already alive, the only way to address overpopulation is by reducing the birthrate. I know that makes you nazi larpers big mad because some of your rhetoric revolves around increasing the white birthrate, but the environment is more important than preserving your genetics, and also brown people should be having less kids, too.

>>819470
  1. eugenics is pseudoscience hogwash with no basis in reality, and I would not be against the cessation of certain genetic profiles being proliferated via pregnancy if it is scientifically certain that those genetics will result in defects.
  2. you can't kill a fetus, it's a fetus, and morality doesn't really factor into it unless you're some fundamentalist christian type who already sees the fetus as a person.

>>819623
why should I care that some people on reddit might have enough sense to understand that climate change is a result of human activity, and that only humans can make the choice to reduce that activity? good, I'm glad people on reddit understand that. why don't you?



File: 1785651376698-9.png (1.07 MB, 1024x683, IMG_4214.png)

 

how does /leftypol/ feel about leftysoy?? it seems promising, a leftist sharty..

not an advertisement i dont even use the site, have mercy jannies


not loooooooooooooooooooooooonnnggg enough
69 posts and 12 image replies omitted.

>>818913
Didn’t say that she wasn’t (tho i think some of her xeets are lame lul)

>>818853
Weird way to say leftypol
>>811441
Leftysoy doesnt have any major connections with STDbooru, and also yeah their main admin (mustard or pedocondiment if you want) says and does some really pedophilic shit, for example he was caught in a DM chain with several minors babbling about gay porn (this guy is pushing 30s), one time he even banned criticism of pedophilia because everyone was basically throwing shit at him.

>>810855
>Check it out
>Pages and pages of "media pending approval", sometimes on up to seven hour old posts.
Good website


Its based and councilpilled



File: 1786746693227-0.png (360.42 KB, 494x464, 1786725037518927.png)

 

Atheists are right about nearly everything

The sad thing is we still don't have a secular society and this is cucking the United States in particular so much and so hard

We are a little cumslut for Abrahamicism
55 posts and 9 image replies omitted.

>>819190
Western brand of atheism is nihilism+hedonism+doom and coom shit, there's zero incentive to be a parent for the vast majority of them.

>>819075
>Religion traumatises people into believing that their loved ones will be tortured for all eternity. Accepting our finitude in death is easier.

i've never heard a single religious person talk about their loved ones being in hell, the whole point of religion is to believe what you want to believe and religious people want to believe that the people they love go to heaven and the people they hate go to hell. religion doesn't traumatize people, life traumatizes people and it needs no assistance to do so. no human fiction can ever come close to being as traumatic as reality is, no fire and brimstone fantasy world is more hellish than the genuine hell we live in now.

>>819323
>i've never heard a single religious person talk about their loved ones being in hell
Yes you have

>>819307
Having children also satisfies hedonism, you can even treat them like shit and use them as physical or mental punching ball, plenty of parents do

>>819339
How is being a parent a form of hedonism?



 

How do I create a network of important connections and influence so that I can do shit revolitionary shit without consequences?

Why yes, I dont crop my screenshots, what gave it away?

Join the mafia



File: 1788056104664-2.webp (18.12 KB, 1139x673, wah.webp)

 

breaking bad is problematic because Gus Fring commits a genocide.
That's literally a plot point, I'm not shitposting. Fring successfully committed a complete genocide. This is why Pervitin is bad.
7 posts and 1 image reply omitted.

>>819565
No. You're not going to spend 50k USD on a meth habit in a few months. On crack/coke, you will.
No money on meth. There's even more money selling fent to the bottom of the barrel junkies than in meth.

>>819564
Meth feels nasty as fuck. Especially cartel meth. I did real meth back in the Silk Road days in 2012, and yes, it felt amazing (only the first time tho; the second time I felt annoyed by how long the high lasted and not being able to eat or sleep for 48 hours). Then a decade later I did meth from my street plug (my drug of choice was always H tho), and i just felt mentally ill. They no longer use ephedrine. They use mystery CCP precursor chemicals.
Then on my last relapse a couple of years ago, I switched to cocaine/crack. I spent 50k USD on myself and another 50k USD selling it to break even. Cocaine/crack gives you entrepreneurial skills and a very ASSERTIVE attitude that meth or normal amphetamines will never give you.

>>819587
What's H? Heroin?


>>819608
I was always fascinated by heroin and opiates in general (not fuckin fent or synthetic opioids, NB). And I was pretty much a functional addict and could hold two jobs to support my dope habit(thanks to my doctor prescribing me subutex so i could avoid withdrawals whenever i ran out of my stash) . It made me feel very happy and comfortable to deal with normies and society in general. I could even work out a lot at the gym while high on H. The issues begin when you start to speedball plus self-indulge with BPD stim head bitches. That's when i went downhill.
Honestly, i find it annoying people have such an issue with heroin while eating fast food. Heroin or opiates are none toxic. Is just a bitch to quit cold turkey.



 

This shit goes hard, post cool ass communist edits
46 posts and 36 image replies omitted.

File: 1786237116786-3.mp4 (1.8 MB, 720x720, zGIyUwQSi-dUgxhb.mp4)


>>777356
OP said to post cool ass communist edits, not cringe ass liberal edits.

flood


Bump



File: 1787739391555-1.png (1.89 MB, 1395x874, 1750772438160.png)

 

this is peak goyslop
30 posts and 8 image replies omitted.

File: 1787887645910-3.png (251.36 KB, 1000x735, ClipboardImage.png)

>>819023
I went to Dealey Plaza recently. there are Xs on the street where JFK was shot.
The first shot, I think, is feasible. But the headshot that killed him is crazy.

It's also not like that time period wasn't full of proven conspiracies, like the Operation Northwoods, Bay of Pigs, Watergate, the Gulf of Tonkin, Cointel Pro, MKUltra. There was a lot of shady shit going on, and it's only reasonable to look at the assassination of a US president with a large dose of skepticism.

This was basically Nothing Ever Happens: The Show

>>818618
rulin ideas is ideas of rulin class, if u like popular ting, u boojwah, dig?

>>819023
If you don't know, you don't know.
Don't comment on things you have no acquaintance of.

>>818599
>weren’t in the mainstream
>were getting paid millions by HBO
what is it then? Either way, stand-up comedy has always been crass and aimed at insulting and demeaning society. If you look up most of the “racist films” of all time, barring the ones from the 1930s, 99% of them were often made by politically liberal or left-leaning people, like Matt Trey and Parker see >>818998



File: 1788068680193-3.png (897.13 KB, 1000x563, ClipboardImage.png)

 

Obviously they run the mercado but don't actually own the space. They don't exploit anyone because only their family works there. Their abuela works as the building manager in exchange for basically free housing. They almost got kicked out completely because they had a snake even though there's a no reptile rule. They can't even afford A/C and had to try several failed ideas to come up with the money. The entire building is owned by a single minor character. All 12 of them live in a crowded apartment and couldn't even begin to dream of purchasing it even if they pooled all their money together.
Please please please please tell me The Casagrandes aren't petit-bourgeois.

They should start a family drug dealing business. Or they should've have if it was the 1980s or 1990s. I don't know what's a profitable illegal economy business in our current years. Maybe they could start falsifying official documents? Maybe something internet related?

>>819568
>petit-bourgeois?
Probably but I dont consider petit-porkies as class enemies if they are self-employed and dont exploit workers.



Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo / 420 ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]
[ 1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 /11 /12 /13 /14 /15 /16 /17 /18 /19 /20 /21 /22 /23 /24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 /31 /32 /33 /34 /35 /36 ]
| Catalog | Home