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/ANIMETA/
General Thread discussing, analyzing and criticizing anime from the meta perspective of Capitalism, Media Culture (Industry) and Socio-Economics & Politics.
No shitflinging, drama, bad faith or baiting posts (e.g. "Trap is transphobic" or "Muh shounen trash" or "(all) Anime is misogynistic"). Keep it cool comrades.

Animation: Treatment of Animators Thread >>617
Leftist Anime Content: Communist Anime Thread >>1417 Communist Anime Girls Thread >>964 Miyazaki Thread >>469
Anime Hot Takes >>1993 so-bad-it's-good animu >>2551
Sources and Questions: Questions and Answers >>4229
E-celebs/Social Media: Ani-tube >>3128 V-tubers >>3388
Story Ideas: /WYOA/: write your own anime thread >>4263
Shounen complaint thread >>3200
Weeb-Otaku-/jp/ thread: /weaboo/ >>4715

Basic topics and questions:
>Is anime bad/stupid/boring or good/smart/interesting?
>Is anime inherently a reactionary/capitalist product or can it be a communist or pro-communist one?
>What Tropes and archetypes are good or bad?
>Will anime be produced under socialism? Could Japan have produced anime if it had become a Soviet State in the Cold War? How would anime look like or differ under socialism?
>Why are nearly all weebs and otaku right-wing or radlibs? Why are they so cringe and self-entitled?
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 No.14000

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a half serious proposal:

On the topic of otaku stuff and communism, Cuba's online encyclopedia has a section for anime, but although there are a fair number of articles present, it seems to be sparse in the content of said articles. Maybe we can help fill it out a little? China has some online encyclopedias and dedicated anime ones also, but they already have a lot of anime fans and otaku, so likely not as much help is necessary, although it'd be good to gather information from everyone's encyclopedias to mutually improve.

This sort of work'd count technically as actual practice, and our otaku autism might be useful for once.

 No.14174

>>14000
What sort of information would we add to it?

 No.14177

>>14000
This is pretty cool and a good idea, kinda like leftypedia. >>14174 brings up a good point, what should be added? Plot summaries? Leftist analyses etc?

 No.14189

>>14177
That honestly was sort of a half-joke, but yeah it could be done.

>>14174
Basic data that hasn't been filled in like author information and episode intros, multimedia such as topic-relevant pictures to enrich the pages, little corrections here and there, and if more ambitious whatever pages the Portal has on the to-do list could be a few simple tasks? There are probably guidelines over there available to follow and random menial duties to complete if these aren't suitable.

>leftist analysis

Addition of "leftist anime analysis", even though obviously the meme of "neutral nonpartisan objectivity" is a delusion, is not that good of an idea in this situation because the "environment of an encyclopedia" bestows an aura of objectivity, even if illusory, and to grant that upon some capitalist countries' imageboard shitposters' opinions or even a more prestigious source is undesirable. Leftists probably cannot even agree on what our takes on the Gone with the Wind franchise should be. And to try too hard to frame popular media, from the currently majority bourgeois culture industry, into "leftist analysis" comes off somewhat liberal and immature in a way. Again, this should just be predominantly very ordinary work, like summaries of episodes or spinoffs and such.
Plus the administrators might suspect vandalism and haul out the bans.

 No.15348

>excessive amounts of pornography
>rainbow haired characters with the goofiest hairstyles in existence
>dogwater attention to facial anatomy
>character designs thatre either overglorified BDSM gear or look so out of place you’d assume it’s your ingame avatar in a cutscene during an important moment in an RPG

Tell me again why someone new to anime should join the community and assume this industry is fucking dead

 No.15350

you shouldn't get into anime you should just fuck off instead

 No.15352

>>15350
Do you have an argument
Because what I’m hearing is “I know your right but because I have nothing to say I’ll insult you than confront my dying community and the industries god awful practices”

 No.15353

try cartoons

 No.15354

literally none of this is exclusive to "current" anime lol

 No.15355

op is a faggot

 No.15356

>>15353
What the fuck is the difference honestly?

 No.15357

You kind of have to dig for it these days but there are occasionally gems.
What are you into?

 No.15358

Most contemporary media in general is pretty awful.

 No.15359

>>15357
Anime that don’t contain the above problems or grown ass women that sound like toddlers

 No.15360

>Planetes
>Ping Pong
>Flowers of Evil
>Mushishi
>Tatami Galaxy
>Lain

OP, it is with a heavy heart I must say that u r mr gay

 No.15361

>Tell me again why someone new to anime should join the community
if they are like you i'd rather not

 No.15362

>>15348
>>excessive amounts of pornography
good

 No.15364

>>15360
>Planets
I watched that in junior HS, it wasnt very captivating, guess I wasn't ready for it yet.

 No.15366

>>15364
Planetes*

 No.15367

>>15364
>>15366
it's about office politics, geopolitics, starting a career and young adulthood, and the fallout of unrealistic dreams colliding with reality

it's seinen, targeted at college student and older males, not really something most teenagers would be into

OP's problem is that he watches shonen for middle schoolers and gets mad that they aren't seinen when he should just google seinen anime

 No.15368

>first point
Not true. Anime is way too toned down in order to make it on TV. Anime is almost always censored compared to its source material.
>goofy hairstyles
and that's a good thing, unfortunately looking at YGO for example they've toned this down as well
>dogwater
What does that mean?
>character designs that are overdesigned
Not enough if you ask me.

>why should you join the community

You shouldn't. You should have friends. You shouldn't take a single element in life and 'join' it. Read books, watch movies, shows, go outside, do a plethora of things. This catch-all 'anime' is cringe.

>15364

It's just boring. Don't worry man. Just watch what piques your interest. There will always someone with less life experience telling you how amazing a certain anime is. That doesn't mean it isn't a valid opinion to hold that it's boring.

 No.15369

>>15368
>>dogwater
>What does that mean?
I assume OP means those eyes animated on top of the hair or the general trend of less defined facial features.

 No.15370

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So OP is complaining that anime goes for stylistic choices that are often cheaper than more costly? Animation should be over the top fantastical, for realism you might as-well hire real actors.

 No.15371

>>15370
meant to reply to >>15369

Anime is all about having perspective. Know what it is and what it isn't. OP blaming an anime for using color is stupid.

 No.15372

another fucking recommendation thread (dont pretend that isnt what you wanted faggot)

 No.15388

>15372
Yeah. I think anyone that started recing things should be banned. I don't think he wanted them honestly.

 No.15394

>>15348
>>excessive amounts of pornography
>>rainbow haired characters with the goofiest hairstyles in existence
>>dogwater attention to facial anatomy
>>character designs thatre either overglorified BDSM gear or look so out of place you’d assume it’s your ingame avatar in a cutscene during an important moment in an RPG
All these sound like good things.

 No.15395

>>15394
No no no no no! You have to be a social conservatism or else you're a le redditora man!!!!

 No.15404

my favorite genre of High Internet Intellectualism is when someone complains in broad strokes about media and accidentally reveals they’ve only been consuming content made for teenagers

 No.15431

>15404
Apply yourself. OP is wrong but not because of your sudden broad generalizations.

 No.15442

>sudden broad generalizations
lol

 No.15501

>>12022
>Comrade Sumipe
Who is she? She's a real looker.

 No.15515

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Deleuze spoke that the great fictional classical narratives in cinema were finished and that now we have a world of incredible possibilities for experimentation with formal elements and affective tones without narrative closures, while anime became a mix and match machine of moe characters and tropes.

There has been a turn towards the predominance of small narratives and the moe-based consumption of characters in the production of anime as well as reception since the 90s (notably from Evangelion) onwards. This is the reason why Azuma Hiroki called it the new "database consumption" of otaku, being the industry a factory of simulacra and moe tropes. It is seen in the prevalence in contemporary anime of animation techniques that prioritize the exaggerated effects of relatively immobilized images over the realistic movement based on action (Disney's animation style). This approach in affection is properly exemplified in Chobits, and many other popular romcom and harem anime.

This idea of ​​"database consumption" also occurs in the practice of choosing not to translate certain words (senpai, etc.), not only because of the ubiquity, but also because the (fan)translators understood them at some level as addresses in the "database" instead of natural words. Taking again the example of "senpai", this term almost has a completely different connotation than just say "teacher" due to the tropes that are ubiquitous in moe culture.

 No.15555

Do Japanese teens want to get away from their society that badly, or are the LN writers simply too lazy to do stories that aren't isekai? Have consumers not gotten bored? Is anime gonna get less popular paradoxically as it becomes more mainstream?

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>>15555
>Do Japanese teens want to get away from their society that badly
<or are the LN writers simply too lazy to do stories that aren't isekai
Both. Isekai can be good but it lends itself to shitty cheap and no-effort 'writing' and its popular because people seek to escape their reality, especially in the socially repressive capitalist society that Japan has.
>Have consumers not gotten bored
They liked [X] product and so after they finish it, they want more of the same, trying to recapture the excitement of the first time they read such a story, that's the reason many popular Isekai play on some kind of twist like Konosuba or Shield Hero.
>Is anime gonna get less popular paradoxically as it becomes more mainstream
Being mainstream makes it have more general of an audience, but the Isekai trend is going to die down as the consumer market gets oversaturated and people become tired of no-effort schlock.

 No.15672

>>15555
>>15584
I hate isekai as much as the next person but in the west you never see the few good niche isekai getting translated.

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 No.16648

>>16224
There's certainly something to be said about Hollywood and superhero shit and their infantile impact on people, but some of this shit is kinda going to the extreme other end out of pure contrarianism.

 No.16651

>>16224
Mf quoted Phil Greaves

 No.16728

>>15368
This is in relation to >>15348

 No.16755

>>16224
the last tweet was the only good tweet

 No.16756

>>15362
>>15394
no gay
most of the porn is guro or jailbait and not milf porn

 No.16758

Why do anime fans have such low standards when it comes to anime?
lot of them are poorly written garbage with writing that is even worse than your average children's cartoon or anime
Yet they think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread
Is it literally only because it looks pretty?

 No.16760

>>16758
>Why do anime fans have such low standards when it comes to anime
Because it's become mainstream and computer graphics are much easier to do than the old 2D hand animation as a result Japanese anime series can be practically spammed and the effort into making them is almost zero, especially since very few good western cartoons are being made in the past 5-7 years.
Basically
- Have become easy to mass produce, and a glut of cheap Light Novels means that nobody needs to bother hiring full-time writers
- High demand means that people are going to eat up even shitty products en masse
- lack of competition by Western studios in terms of animated series (and movies TBH) means they dominate the market.
>Is it literally only because it looks pretty
IMO it doesn't even look all that pretty anymore, not like in the earlier decades, but yes, the cutesy big-eye moe-shit is attractive to terminally infantile and/or terminally online NEETs that are steadily becoming the majority of the First World (i.e. areas of significant US influence).
>they think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread
Because they have shit taste and anything to escape from their pointless reality is better than trying to self-actuate or do anything of meaning in their lives.

 No.16761

>>16756
>most of the porn is guro
I wish that were true, there's very little animated guro

 No.16763

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 No.16764

>>16763
You judge me for wanting to watch fictional characters die yet you want to watch me die. Curious!

 No.16765

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>>16764
Reap what you sow /d/eviant.

 No.16767

>>16765
I'm actually going to live until I'm 90 and I'll be watching little girls get split in half by chainsaws all the while

 No.16768

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>>16767
Sick fuck


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