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Let's talk about state armies, the people employed in them, and how they can relate to the socialist movement.

State armies are particularly interesting:
>they are inherently a powerful force
>their members are employed to serve the state, whether performing imperialist invasion or suppressing internal threats beyond the scope of the police
>their members are often well-trained in skills useful for militant and revolutionary activities
>their members may have unique experiences and expertise in both military tactics and understanding of countering enemy tactics, which may apply equally to local enemies of the people
>they are highly-abused, with high rates of traumatic experience, guilt, disability, economic neglect and suicide
>regardless of drafting and compulsory service not existing in many Western states, large proportions of recruits join purely for economic reasons, rather than any specific desire to join

Considering these starting points, let's ask:
- Which modern military personnel (from support staff to technicians to grunts) would have skills most useful to the socialist movement?
- Are there any reasons military personnel would be inherently incompatible with the socialist movement? Are comrades right or wrong to ostracize them based on their job?
- How did movements like Nazism/Fascism recruit ex-military members so effectively? How about counter-examples like the 43 Group? Is this the same dynamic we see with US 'Patriot' militia movements today? What place do ex-military members currently hold among the socialist movement?
- How should military be considered differently to police and other state law enforcement agencies?
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>>5576
>Which modern military personnel (from support staff to technicians to grunts) would have skills most useful to the socialist movement?
All are useful, frontline personnel are of course the most valuable, but even the support staff are needed because "the tip of the spear don't fight for free."
>Are there any reasons military personnel would be inherently incompatible with the socialist movement? Are comrades right or wrong to ostracize them based on their job?
Absolutely not, any comrade may hate them the imperial enforcer for what they've done and how they have contributed to upholding the empire, but on a pragmatic level, anyone who knows how to fight and is willing to do so MUST be allowed to, and must be allowed to teach and train. The Bolsheviks would never have won if substantial portions of the White officers had not gone over to them.
>How did movements like Nazism/Fascism recruit ex-military members so effectively? How about counter-examples like the 43 Group? Is this the same dynamic we see with US 'Patriot' militia movements today? What place do ex-military members currently hold among the socialist movement?
The military as a institution and an occupation is inherently conservative and will almost always trend conservative for the simple reason of being so strictly hierarchial.
>How should military be considered differently to police and other state law enforcement agencies?
To quote a certain Battlestar Admiral
<There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.
>Do any particular state armies have a different dynamic? For example, do the PLA (China), KPA (North Korea) or PAVN (Vietnam) have a different relationship to Western armies?
Military doctrine (how a military do the thing?) can be looked at as a sum of the country's historical experiences (with war especially), national culture, economic need and geopolitical position.
Take Germany for example, up until the second half of the 20th Century, Germany had always been a resource-poor, not very industPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>5608
><There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.
>>Do any particular state armies have a different dynamic? For example, do the PLA (China), KPA (North Korea) or PAVN (Vietnam) have a different relationship to Western armies?
<America today is not much different from the America of the early colonists, who had to contend with British soldiers who were allowed to “enter private homes, confiscate what they found, and often keep the bounty for themselves.” This practice is echoed today through SWAT team raids and the execution of so-called asset forfeiture laws, “which allow police to seize and keep for their departments cash, cars, luxury goods and even homes, often under only the thinnest allegation of criminality.”
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/are_police_in_america_now_a_military_occupying_force

>>5609
China does in fact have a militarized police unit, its called the PAP, People's Armed Police, And they are VERY heavily armed even compared to other gendarmerie/militarized police units, straight up having heavy mech units (though not with tanks). They mostly do the same thing that other gendarmerie do, internal policing, riot suppression, counter-terrorism that sort of heavy duty thing that regular police don't do.

Their special units are supposedly involved in a lot of cross-border counter-drug smuggling in the indochina region, though that stuff isn't well reported on.

Uncertain on how PAVN and KPA do, find the /SEA/ general and ring up NLFanon, he can probs tell you more.

>>5576
check out "eyes left" podcast on spotify. It's run by a former green beret comrade. highly raccomanded.

>>5626
He wasn't SF, but he's a combat vet.



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it's why most of Europe has a manlet issue aside from the Netherlands and some Scandis. Being a manlet means you're a smaller target which means you're less likely to get hit.

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retarded thread. average height in europe was lower before ww1

Height rose during WW1



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>I kinda miss it when the military was portrayed as a hyper badass cool boys club, where there was beer and hot chicks everywhere, constantly.
>Why can't we go back to that?
>I wanna play a new call of duty, starting off as some kind of special operations unit
>And in the tutorial, when you do basic tasks an NPC says some shit like
>"Good we have you on the side of the US ARMY, we could really use a soldier like you"
>I wanna watch a movie, and it somehow ties into the US millitary and they film with real military vehicles doing cool shit like in the old transformers movies
>For fucks sake, can't I just have a ton of games that "totally weren't" sponsored by the millitary while subtly nudging you to join
>Like you just spawn in with a brand new sig spear and the character mumbles some shit like "only the best for the army"
>I wanna go and play a new game set in Ukraine or some shit, and the game portrays Russians as mustache twirling supervillains who clearly want to destroy America and everyone in it in the name of being evil

Now we get shit like "I have 2 moms" or some quirky E girl doing stupid shit.

What the hell is Psyops doing?

>>5590
I remember when the us army made a game from, unreal engine called America's army I think it was called?

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What the hell is Psyops doing?
Evolving, they need the fresh meat recruits from the young generation so they appeal to what's currently popular. It's sort of like following your prey wherever it goes. If the deer goes in the snow or heat. You follow him or starve. It used to be appealing to boomeroids christian crusading fanfics or to destroying the enemies of the free world. But by the 2000s less kids attended bible studies or watched burgerstani propagand about communists on tv with the family. Too focused on epic p13 action movies and games. Gotta follow your prey where it goes. So they meddled in action games totally for kids and adult teens by showing off how could you could be too when you join the US army. Gotta follow your prey where it goes. Then it became anime and egirls for depressed teens. Gotta follow your prey. There's also the rise of progressvist ideas in the US. Hence the two moms ad. The US army saw that wave becoming more mainstream than ever. Gotta follow your prey..



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This thread is dedicated to discus and post stories about paranormal encounters of soldiers,marines, sailors, airmen etc. Stories about "military urban legends" like Kandahar giant and mothman, soloman island giants etc. are welcome.




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Welfare queens invading developing countries to make others rich, then complaining about their PTSD they got from a job they chose to do. Maybe in the distant, distant past when people didn't know any better but now?

>>5597
It’s actually great that poor proletarians are in the military instead of rich aristocrats



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We had a chance to liberate Europe in the 60's and 70's, when we had military parity with americans

body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn shortbody too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short body too god damn short



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>On December 9th, 2024, Yinpiao Zhou, a 39-year-old Chinese national and permanent U.S. resident, was apprehended for allegedly operating a drone over Vandenberg Space Force Base (VSFB) in California and capturing aerial photographs of the installation. This incident has raised significant concerns regarding national security and the potential for espionage activities targeting critical U.S. military infrastructure.

Space Force security, is it literally that easy to breach your defenses? How lazy are the Air Force security forces elements?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/brentwood-man-arrested-allegedly-flying-drone-over-and-photographing-vandenberg-space
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/los-angeles-man-arrested-for-flying-drone-over-taking-photos-of-vandenberg-space-force-base/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-investigating-whether-chinese-citizen-charged-flying-drone-over-base-committed-more-serious-offenses

seems a bit racist to report that he was chinese for no reason whatsoever
they're just trying to get pogroms going

>>5592
But fox said there were Iranian space ships

based droner
I demand more drones in US air space

CEO Killahs know what to do



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Navy thread
Thread for all naval, maritime, ship, submarine & water craft discussion, seas, oceans, lakes, rivers & other bodies of water. Soviet & American shipping alike is welcome, as are civilian vessels. Video & images encouraged. Ekranoplanes & other marine aircraft also count.

Russian / USSR Naval sites: https://flot.com/
https://war-book.ru/nashe-vremya/flot-ww3/
https://вооружение.рф/armaments/sredstva-voenno-morskogo-flota/

US / Western Navy sites (consume with copious amounts of table salt): https://www.naval-technology.com/
https://www.navysite.de/index.htm
https://www.navyrecognition.com/

P.S. Be civil on this Polynesian raft-roping forum.
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As posts >>5147 >>5132 >>5103 >>1969 demonstrate, the US Navy ship-building for the future is disorganized, the only ships I can think of being constructed properly in these past few years was the recent Gerald R. Ford Class Nuclear Aircraft Carriers. Everything else has been a mess. Russia has had a similar problem, but that was primarily due to the dissolution of the USSR fucking up its industry and other socio-economic aspects in general. The depiction of e.g. "rusting Soviet-era hulks", has some basis in fact, but conceals as much as it reveals. Russia's famously "old" submarine fleet, for example, isn't older than the US submarine fleet and ships in general have expected service lifespans of 35-40 years, with many US Naval ships easily being older than some of Russia's. The real problem for the Russian Navy has not just been the retention and poor-maintenance to date of late-Soviet-era ships, but the low rate of production of new vessels to replace them, with the largest warships produced since the USSR being the 6,600t Ivan Gren landing ship and the 5,400t Gorshkov class frigates. And that's an entirely different discussion.

The USN is just an example of Capitalism in decay: - The USS Bonhomme Richard was scuttled because repairing it after the fire damage in San Diego would have cost a little over 3 billion dollars and take 3 years. Meanwhile, the cost of replacing the ship outright in 2020 (when it was decided to be decommissioned) was 4 billion, so rather than repair a damaged but seaworthy ship that exists, the Navy is opting to replace it in the future for an extra 1 billion dollars, even as costs go up, with the cost of a replacement for the Wasp-Class light carrier rising to over 4.1 billion dollars as of 2023. Considering that constructing a new ship of the class takes 3-4 years, it the Navy's decision was idiotic, but in part due to a lack of repair facilities.
- The larger USS John C. Stennis and George Washington have had their RCOH delayed heavily, with the two carriers only expected to come back into service at the end of 2026 and 2027 respectively.
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Ukrainians launched a salvage dive on one of their patrol boats sunk in 2022 at Snake Island. Honestly I don't think people understand how heavy the fighting there was in the brief time that it was relevant.

https://topwar.ru/246120-vms-vsu-proveli-operaciju-po-obnaruzheniju-unichtozhennogo-vks-rf-v-mae-2022-goda-u-ostrova-zmeinyj-dshk.html

A while back the Ukrainians hit a DE submarine and a Landing ship that were in dry dock, using the Storm Shadow missiles. The Ukrainian side and naysayers in the West and Russia claimed the submarine was a total loss. I knew differently, and the result is that the submarine is repaired, out of Dry Dock and completing its refit. Pic related was the damage inflicted and subsequently repaired

https://southfront.press/dock-repairs-of-russian-submarine-damaged-in-ukrainian-missile-attack-completed-report/

Why the U.S. Can’t Build Icebreaking Ships
https://www.construction-physics.com/p/why-the-us-cant-build-icebreaking

>Because polar bodies of water are often covered in ice, accessing these regions by ship requires specially designed ships which can break up the ice and create a path for other ships to follow. The need for icebreaking vessels will remain even as climate change reduces the extent of sea ice: paradoxically, as new polar routes become accessible and sea ice becomes more mobile, the demand for icebreakers is likely to increase. Russia has an aging fleet of more than 40 icebreakers, with several under construction. China has somewhere between 5 and 7 icebreakers (depending on exactly how you define “icebreaker”), with more under construction.1


>The U.S., on the other hand, has allowed its icebreaking capabilities to wither. The Coast Guard has handled all U.S. icebreaking since 1966, and estimates that it needs 8-9 polar icebreakers (4-5 heavy and 4-5 medium) to fulfill its needs. But it currently has only two: the heavy icebreaker Polar Star, and the medium icebreaker Healy. The U.S. hasn’t built a heavy icebreaker since 1976. In fact, no existing U.S. shipyard has built a heavy polar icebreaker since before 1970. A 2017 National Academies report stated that “The nation is ill-equipped to protect its interests and maintain leadership in these regions and has fallen behind other Arctic nations, which have mobilized to expand their access to ice-covered regions.”




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Do you stand up, applaud, and take off your hat to them? Do you praise your country's army every morning in school?

What are your thoughts on your country's military?

I don't care about it at all. But keep killing Russians.



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So I already have an ar15 and some 9mm pistols. So shtf/prepping is already covered. What I'm wondering is about getting an "Intimidation" setup. Which is basically as loud as possible and using really heavy bullets. The idea is that people would get freaked out and stay away from your area. I'm thinking an ar10 and a 10mm glock 20 would do this well. Maybe even throw in a 460 revolvers. I'm only interested in things a normal guy can buy in the US. So no super heavy weapons or explosives.

Is this a stupid plan? Feel like it's decent idea but also very retarded at the same time. What do you guys think?

I've never fired anything above 10mm so forgive me if I have a stupid idea of how larger calibers sound and function

>>5577
>le doomsday fantasy
peak american brain rot, have this book. there is no going back to le wholesome small farmer utopia - does that frustrate you?

Ah yes, a hummer with a protective punisher decal (red so it makes the vehicle faster) and some prefab guns and loudener attachments. Can totally tank a space laser.

>in a disaster situation it's gonna be hecking mad max
>I need to fearmaxx!
why are burgers like this? just talk to your neighbors. it's not hard



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