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I genuinely struggle to imagine what automated warfare would be useful for outside of defensive purposes. The idea of trying to use a self functioning machine for practical warfare feels pointless. That’s not to say automated weapons don’t exist. After all, automatic rifles, auto cannons, self propelled artillery, guided missiles, and other forms of self-firing and self-guided weapons are used all the time in warfare—hell most countries’ governments have mechanized their militaries already. However, the idea of completely relying on machines to perform every primary task a soldier would normally do, and to leave soldiers to perform all the other work necessary in wars feels as unrealistic as it would be difficult to pull off.

There’s a few questions that would have to be asked about how something like automated warfare would work. Whose gathering and analyzing all the data, what types of machines are supposed to be fully automated for combat, whose going to be maintaining and repairing the machines once they finish fighting, is it even cost efficient or necessary to automate warfare in all settings, what types of machines are going to be responsible for the things infantry men do, what are the carry limits of a machine, and more. Obviously, as humanity’s currently most used weapons incorporate more already-existing machinery, soldiers of the future can come to expect that their weapons have some level of self functioning, but the idea that wars at some point will become fully automated sounds unrealistic; it even sounds utopian even.



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Got any questions about guns, equipment or combat? Have some knowledge you can share? Ask and answer away
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>>339
not very

Guys I was about to drop 1.5g on basic armor and plate carrier, combat uniform and war belt.

But then I realized I probably wont buy a firearm just yet since fam is scared of em and cant have em in the house. Is there a point to buying anything gear without the gun/rifle which seems like the primary thing? I was thinking plates might be good to have and I could conceal them in a backpack or something, but the rest I dont really see a practical use for without a weapon?

>>3629
ask /msg/ on /k/

>>286
The Rifle part goes back to the feature of rifles themselves - rifling of the barrel of a long-barreled fire-arm, usually requiring or having a stock.

If one was going to be doing a lot of camping, presumably where mountain lions reside, what, if any handguns would you take? Multiple killed out innawoods/mountains here last few years, caught without any way to defend themselves.



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I'm looking for weapon advice. I want to destroy or temporarily shut down a local factory making ordnance for the genocide in Gaza. I want to avoid explosives because they're hard to test and easy to kill yourself with. I think incendiary is a good idea. Because this is an ordnance factory, the fire department might evacuate instead of trying to put out a fire. I also have access to firearms.

I'd like this to be lightweight so that I can deliver it by air and avoid climbing onto the roof myself. My first plan was a road flare pointed at the roof with a tripod, the idea being to hit it with a long sustained flame. But two tests on a wood platform covered in roofing material charred the wood underneath without actually igniting the platform. Commercial roofing is going to be thicker and more fire resistant than what I've got. What should I do?
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>>5105
Could probably do thermite with my existing igniter (which I will share if there's interest). I just doubt small quantities of thermite have the penetrating power.

Firearm purchases are tied to my license so I can't use them in bulk. Anyway, powder deflagration probably wouldn't impact enough to break the roof and wouldn't have enough energy to set it on fire.

High explosives would. But I would not trust a homemade primary explosive not to go off during transport (especially via drone). Has anyone made an electric det cap from commercial firearm primers? Can confined primers detonate HE or are they only enough to deflagrate gunpowder?

>>5107
gunpowder can't set off HE?

>>5113
Smokeless powder is designed to deflagrate, not detonate. Some blends can be confined and detonated, but it is not commonly used for improvised det caps. Likely too unreliable or low-velocity.

In trhe event you want to use primary explosives:
Do a LOT of research on how to handle explosives in general, like ESD, impurity sensitivity, storage. Then never make more than you need to, and spread out storage by a lot (secondary detonations are a thing)

Anyway, consider just attaching a long spool of thin steel wire to the drone on one end and a droppable heavy nut or bolt on the other end and then flying the wire into a power line to start a fire.

In fact don't mix primary explosive at all if you can avoid it. Get primers from guns or nailgun blanks. and don't go for them unless you can't really avoid them. Worth remembering that steel wool ignites and gets damn hot with only a couple volts to start it.



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i’m from >>>/pol/. my assumption would be AK larps, but i am genuinely intrigued.
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>>5133
are you referring to this or what appears to be their modern CIWS?
>linkrel
>https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a36533533/china-testing-20-barrel-gatling-gun/

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>>5139
oop picrel

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>>5139
neat weapons system

>>5141
>>4903
>AK larps
Nah, crossbow for the win MF!
>>>/akm/5136




 

Thread to talk about drone warfare in general.

There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.

In my experience something that is sorely lacking in protests going wild is intelligence about police postions, while the bad guys usually have a QG with plenty of operators gathering and distributing intelligence to police officers trough cameras, helicopters and, you guessed it, drones.

So, what's keeping us from using drones? Those for kids which are 50 bucks on amazon could do the trick, it would take a team of two, one pilot and one operative relaying intel trough a phone or a radio to someone in the front of the protest.

I know there are anti drone weapons, but they don't work that well and these aren't well established yet. In case of capture though it's good to prevent or render difficult a trace, so it would be smart to buy those drones trough proxies and false adresses, and scratch whatever number they have on them.
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New anti-drone air-defense system:
>Type-625E Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun Missile System SHORAD, is China's cutting-edge air defense gun-missile system engineered to tackle drones and various aerial threats. Featuring six 25mm gun barrels and eight surface-to-air FB-10 missiles with a maximum range of 10 kilometers, the Type 625E represents a formidable asset in modern warfare. With the increasing threat of drones, this system offers rapid response capabilities and can fire air-burst 25mm rounds for enhanced effectiveness. Equipped with a 360-degree scanning radar mounted on the turret and augmented by thermal imagers, the Type 625E ensures comprehensive aerial surveillance and defense.

This feels like a take from Soviet gun-missile Air-Defense systems, Western militaries are only just reaching this idea. China's design reminds me of the Kashtan CIWS visually and conceptually. It's equipped with a six barrel 25mm rotary cannon, Eight FB-10 surface-to-air missiles possessing a 10-kilometer missile range. The important part is its Air-burst 25mm rounds, basically it's combining a machine-gun with controlled shot-gun buckshot/slug , making it immensely deadly, and effective against drones. It has 360-degree radar scanning and uses thermal imagers for enhanced detection and back-up.

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China's joint Golden Dragon 2024 exercise with Cambodia recently included drone dogs with armament: https://topwar.ru/243371-v-odnom-stroju-s-bronevikami-kitajskaja-armija-pokazala-kadry-primenenija-sobak-robotov-na-uchenijah.html

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>>5100
On a similar note, US troops did training with special drones during African Lion 2024 which were used in assisting the clearance of tunnels. Considering how this came out relatively soon after this recent Israel-Palestine war began, I have a feeling the USA may be preparing for involvement or for similar combat situations and opponents.

https://topwar.ru/243504-pokazany-kadry-uchenij-po-tunnelnoj-vojne-s-primeneniem-specialnyh-dronov-mtgr.html

https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2003474576/

because the actual purpose of >muh cucklege protests is for the protestors to mentally distance themselves from final exams, and drones do not help with that

>>5119
What is this responding to?



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P1.
Alright, so I won't go too much into it, but as I'm sure you've all noticed, there is a distinct lack of competent organizations and combat readiness in the left. While it may just be a stereotype, the idea of the skinny and weak anarchist can sum up most of the left that wishes to engage in direct action, mostly by using outdated manuals and romanticized ideas of war. As such, I had, a few years ago, taken it upon myself to release training videos to some of you in order to get you up to speed on the basics of the basics. That, unfortunately, seems to have fallen through on the account of my job, which often has me traveling and doing other things that I won't go into because they are totally uninteresting and unrelated to the topic at hand. As such, we will go into a few key steps you should be taking in order to prepare yourself for introductory training, should it ever be offered to you. Yes, you read that correctly, you must train yourself to be trained. You do not have the luxury of being part of an organized military force, though I would not critique you if that is the route you are wanting to take, as it would be hypocritical. I will limit the topic to individual training, equipment, and self-selection because the whole of military science is a broad topic that is not wholly known by any one individual. Please understand this so that my limitations do not become a hindrance to your growth as a potential combat soldier. Seek training from experienced individuals, even if you have to hide your power level. Consider me just another voice on the internet. I do not intend to use credentials or authority on the subject to get you to do as I say, but I would appreciate it if you thought about a few things. Thank you for reading.
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>>5050
>>5049
To make it painful, if you die, you get no dinner for the evening, because dead men don't eat dinner.

>>5034
tactical larpers and gun people on yt say airsoft can be useful to train small unit tactics and basic weapon handling etc. i guess there is a difference between "speedsoft" and "mil-sim" type of play. i have no experience in either but i guess that learning to work with a team on the field could be a good thing.

>>5042
>Paintballs and airsoft really hurt
don't hurt enough to emulate getting shot.

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>>5093
Sometimes getting shot doesn't hurt at all.



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>Sir, we forgot to give the bad guys in our first person shootie game an assault rifle
<we did? which ones? whatever, just use this.
>for all the levels?
>does it matter? everyone knows the african tribalists, the arab terrorist jihadists and the russian autocrats all use rusty aks with no modifications, oh and don't forget to give cool gimmicks to the M16s of our good guy
>the grenade launcher, the dual mag or the Infrared vision optics?
<everything
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They even still use them in the 26th century in the Halo canon lol.

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>>5023
> african tribalists
>the arab terrorist jihadistsand
>the russian autocrats

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litsen here bud, around here we call them by fake names like Kastov or Vaznev, don't wanna get a lawsuit.

>>5029
wouldn't be surprised if that happened assuming that warfare didn't become complete transcendental or something. people still use the 1911 and it's over 110 years old now.

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>>5077
i get this feeling around india and pakistan, some families, probably ones with grandparents in the colonial army are still using grandpa's old pre 1900s rifle from the raj era for hunting because, why buy a new thing when the old thing works just fine?



 

I am planning on getting a pistol I can hopefully concealed carry when get a permit for that. Currently, I’m considering the H&K VP9SK because I’m an H&K shill, but I am open to suggestions.

>>4091
What about the hkp30?

>Carry pistol suggestions?
Steyr C9-A2 MF

Don't think you can go wrong with any of the top brands anyways. Beretta, CZ, Glock, etc.

>>5073
And the best thing about it is that it has a very low bore axis and angled grip work to signigicantly reduce recoil because the more offset the barrel is from the axis of your arm the more it will rotate your arm upwards.



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The engineers behind the t-34 understood the logistical struggles of maintaining entire battalions of tanks where before they only existed in handfuls. Such an exponential expansion of the deployment of tanks, in tandem with the increasing complexity of tank parts and intricacies of tank design, meant that the modern war effort would require logistical feats never before preformed by any army. Innovations of the t-34 would include everything from sloping armor to increase deflection and grazing rates from enemy shells without substantially increasing production cost to simplifying turret design while not stripping functionality to maintain the maximal performance and accessibility while cutting down on logistical profile. The general design ethos of the USSR was to think smarter so they could fight harder, and longer. One of the innovations was its tank treads - rather than being fully bolted on both sides, only one side was bolted, and a raised metal plate was installed to prevent these bolts from slipping out from their position, decreasing the work needed to replace tank tracks while still maintaining full functionality.

This industrious and pragmatic design philosophy is what drove the war machine of the Red Army, making its constituent components consistent and interchangeable, and to make such work easy to preform. Any man or woman, from Siberian tribespeople to West Russian urbanites, could fight with equal skill and capability under the red banner. Meanwhile every German vehicle or weapon required specially trained crews, specially trained engineers, specially trained gunsmiths, all required to jump through the hoops of different corporate designs and methods to keep their weapons of war functional. Where the Germans had tanks so finnicky that only 50% of spare parts would be accepted in any given German tank, you could disassemble 100 T-34s, mix up the parts, and assemble 100 of them again, and they'd all run equally well. In a war of logistics, this streamlining and accessibility is what allowed for the USSR's tanks to stand against the Germans even with numerical inferiority, because of shorter time out of action for logistical or repair work. As the number of T-34s increased, they started to geometrically outnumber them. then, exponentially outnumber them.

Simplified and streamlined designs with accessibility and consistency will win out against the most "advanced" and "complex" of designs, because war is not waged in a way thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Uralvagnzavod responded to the mocking about T-55s & T-62 & the T-34 being next (such as pic rel) by "proposing" a T-34 upgrade that will make it a Leo II killer.
https://rusvesna.su/news/1680360945

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvkwuGcWC_w
Танк Т-34, установленный возле городского дома культуры имени Ленина в память об освободителях Антрацита от немецко-фашистских захватчиков, был отреставрирован специалистами Казачьей Национальной Гвардии. Боевой единице спустя 70 лет вернули возможность снова стать на защиту народа от фашистов. Эта та самая площадь где Укры заметили российскую технику. Т-34 действительно русский,а точнее-советский танк.

T-34 schematics

С ДНЁМ ПОБЕДЫ!
Т-34 это символ победы Советского Народа и Социалистической Системой над Фашизмом!

>>2802
>Finally the tank STILL operates in combat to this day in its original form (i.e. not a T-34 chassis mounting a larger gun or new engine, like the Israeli M4 upgrades), a feat no other armored vehicle of WW2 can claim.
I need to amend my statement to "a feat no other TANK of WW2 can claim" because there is at least 1 other armored vehicle from WW-2 operating to this day - usually in the same areas as the T-34-85 for that matter - the SU-100 tank destroyer. the Су-100 is a casemate self-propelled gun mounting a 100mm D-10S anti-tank gun (Д-10С is also known as the 2A48 and was later mounted on the T-54/55 series). The cannon remains quite powerful even to this day and unlike the 85mm D-5 / Д5 gun used by the T-34-85 (and SU-85 the SU-100 was based on, and which in turn was based on the T-34's chassis and hull) has a lot more ready ammunition today that can be used.

Production began in 1944 and was produced in the USSR and Warsaw Pact up until 1956, with post-war models having updated electronics and being more 'refined' due to less rushed production in post-war conditions, as well as using T-44 road wheels, however the basic design remained unchanged.

It's currently used in Yemen and is in the arsenals of several countries today and took part in Cold War and 21st Century conflicts.
Yemen Su-100s: https://rg.ru/2019/02/12/legendy-v-boiu-su-100-prodolzhaiut-voevat-v-jemene-naravne-s-t-34.html

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%A3-100?useskin=vector

>СУ-100 ПОСЛЕ ВТОРОЙ МИРОВОЙ ВОЙНЫ // ОТ ЕГИПТА ДО ВЬЕТНАМА by Kupershtain

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How many FAB bombs does Russia have?



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