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Aircraft of all socialist nations. I don’t discriminate. Discuss.
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Continuing on the topic of Yakovlev aircraft, the Yak-24 was a bit of an anomaly since it was a helicopter and not a plane, contrary to almost every other Yakovlev aircraft. It was also the only Soviet helicopter to be produced that featured a tandem rotor design, IIRC (not counting the Mil V-12 as it was a prototype)
It tends to be overshadowed by other designs such as the Mi-2, Mi-4 or Mi-8, though, and I don't think it was as influential as those. However, I appreciate its simple design: it's basically a long box with rotorblades and stabilizers.

MIG JUMPSCARE

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>>4568
Pics 1 & 2 are MiG-31s, pic 3 is a MiG-25. A sexeh beast indeed.
The MiG-25 is pretty fucking awesome. It can reach about Mach 3 under the right conditions, it has an extremely powerful radar that is also resilient to ECM and EMPs, and it does all of that by using engines from a cancelled cruise missile project, vacuum tubes, and being made out of steel.
The MiG-31 modernizes the whole thing with upgraded electronics and perhaps better aerodynamics, although it's a little bit slower (but still really fast).

On a related note, the Mikoyan Ye-150/152 (picrel) used the same engine as the MiG-25 and was also meant to be an interceptor.

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>>4568
I remember reading about how Soviet MiG-25/31 pilots would lock onto SR-71s but they would run away before they could fire. Super cool planes.

I know the MiG 1.44’s first flight was post soviet but it was in design in 86’ so close enough.

>>4570
The MiG-25 could lock-on but the R-40 did have some trouble chasing, so MiG-25s would approach from the front. The MiG-35s R-33s and PESA RADAR did not have this issue and easily forced SR-71s out of Soviet air-space. The SR-71 was only good at being high-speed, it turned like a brick, ate fuel like crazy, the engines constantly broke-down and leaked.



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So what we hear from people like bad empanada is that the people in the US military are all too right wing to do a revolution but Mr Bushnell, who I'm sure you all know by now, seems to contract this. I wonder what his security clearance was in the AF considering his history of being a lefty-ish reddit poster.

thoughts?
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He was studying software, like IT stuff it sounded like from some of his social media posts.

>people in the US military are all too right wing to do a revolution
Nah, they just need the "correct" motivation to join the revolution, remember a large part of the Bolsheviks army was made of former Tsarist officers, including several very highly-renowned ones like Marshal Alexei Brusilov.

>People like Greek Aussie living in the bougie part of Crakeristan, South America, have valid opinions.
The Military is pretty shit these days, so I'm not surprised that Aaron did what he did.

>>4529
>People like Greek Aussie living in the bougie part of Crakeristan, South America, have valid opinions.

I am not online enough to get this. Are you talking about bad empanada?

Who else lives in Argentina and smells like gyros and vegemite?



 

Why have these two weapon systems stood the test of time? I know the UK uses the SA and China uses the QBZ but where else in the world you see other nations adopt these weapon systems? It seems that the m16 line and the Kalashnikovs have the most "mass produced" and used status.
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>>2027
>but it's still just a fuckin AR platform rifle
lolno

>>2078
Oh it is lmao, like especially with military ammo that shit fucking sucks

>>1630
>why have the main rifles of the former two world superpowers stood the test of time

hmmmm

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Cowboy Bebop was predictive programming. we're still gonna be using AK's, M4's and Tokarev's on mars.

>>4515
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.



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(Just in case some /leftypol/ tourist starts yelling 'glow fed', I'm not American, this is purely out of curiosity, if anyone were serious they wouldn't be discussing it on a public pan-african permagrowth-designing forum, and it's not my fault if your opsec is atrociously shit)

The vid rel (from Examined Life) was posted a while ago, the punchline being the El Salvadorean telling the pessimistic American 'don't you have mountains in the US?' 'It's easy, you go to the mountains, you start an armed cell, you create revolution.' A recent reply retorted, absurdly, that the government would 'just McNuke' them.

It got me thinking a bit, the US despite MacArthur's efforts didn't iNuke any country since Japan and I suspect it would be very unlikely to do it on a civilized part of their own mainland. And ultimately, even in the modern age, the US has failed to really utilize their weaponry dominance. It's easy for the naive eye to look at drones, gun-dogs, tanks and planes and forget just how effective asymmetric warfare can be against superpowers.

The questions:
- Is creating a base of operations onnamountains a viable tactic in the US?
- Are there any modern US examples of successful guerilla tactics, urban or rural? Possible examples could include organized crime or rural compounds.
- How is asymmetric warfare changed by proximity? US wars in Asia and further have a noticeable supply issue with distance.
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>>3972
Eye don't know!

>>3997
do you even live in America?

>>3972
The rex from Iraq tell us that if you try to ambush soldiers you tend to die and you will suffer 8 losses per soldier you kill, but plant IEDs and you will kill 3 soldiers per insurgent shot.

This information is already public, I can not be held responsible for what someone might do with it.

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The US seems to lose to guerillas or revolutionaries more often than it would like to. Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Cuba, Nicaragua. Which begs the question: what are some countries that the US/West cannot afford to "lose". I am talking about countries that the US would do ANYTHING to prevent from "falling" or "turning sides", like do occupation of Poland or Manchuria levels of violence to maintain influence or whatever.

>>4670
Their immediate neighbour Canada would be the most obvious and easiest answer.

Following close behind would be Japan and South Korea in that order.

Potential countries the US might go crazy for are the UK, France, Germany and Australia.

Not sure where to put Mexico tbh.



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What kind of comms are accessible to the layman? Are there any encrypted channel walkie talkies that would be good enough for use or what? I have no idea where to even start with these.
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>>3655
>luckily those rules only apply to the US
Almost every country bans encryption on CB and ham bands.

>>3658
not where I live. encryption is only banned in international QSOs

>>3659
Name the country

>>3659
Don't name the country

>>3653
Meshtastic LoRa comms are good. They're encrypted, and don't require a license. You can also combine an ATAK plugin with it. Sends GPS data. Pretty good, but its text only.



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Haven't seen this thread revived anywhere so I thought I'd bring it back myself

ITT: Discussions about stats of Soviet military hardware, tactics etc. Not strictly limited to Soviet stuff despite name.
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New Mustard just dropped

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I just uploaded a full rip of the Epic Soviet Documentaries channel to the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/epic-soviet-documentaries
328 videos, everything subtitled to English

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>>2877
Russia is a poor and corrupt country, they do stuff the cheap and dumb way because they can't do otherwise

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>>4381
As opposed to others who do it in an expensive and dumb way? LMAO.



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well, i think it's obvious Kek is a goverment religious OP, and along with other things we can consider that people have been in a mind-war since the creation of governance/hierarchy as an institution, though messing with these egyptian deities and other things is exactly how a capitalist would ultimately think, especially market-reasoning wise. Their goal in some angles is to control themselves past life and death.

And I think, as communists, anarchists, and other strands which declare liberation in resources, land, and space. We need to develop something for ourselves against these people. I know the DKMU exist, I think they are so far a great little addition as magickal forces out here, but it doesn't seem like we've had much like, people helping out on the areas of fighting against those things. Of course marxists, dumb it down to, "materialism is the one true" science thing, but to me, I still find them to be intertwined in a ultimately occult system of control on death, life, and areas that the capitalist tries to gain domain over, stripped into nihilism/atheism, but though, i think these systems can end up being eventually killed, which goes into the schizophrenictizing of capitalism along with just pure religion/paranoid territory, which the state tries to enforce, embrace, or mediate.

I think we can perform warfare though, at least, in defense from these people along with things, especially with their influence hopefully also. Though, we might be all silly doing it or small groups, but it could be fun along with help disrupt further authoritarian symbol along with language production around these things by attacking the thing in metaphysical space.

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>>4201
nope, those won't help sadly



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So Zastava and the Serbian Army have decided to venture away from the M70 (Yugoslav AK47 clone) as a service weapon and adopt the new M19 Modular Combat System.
It can use the old 7,62 mm cartridge and a proprietary 6,5 mm (based on Grendel) cartridge. Changing the cartridge involves a barrel swap, which can be done on-the-fly.
While it's has a lot of changes from the M70, it still uses the Kalashnikov system.
Is it too weird for a service rifle?

Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_M19
Video by a gun Youtuber from the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CE2wNnmIOg
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>>4180
Yugo-anon have you returned to us?

>>4183
I don't understand why not just keep using 7.62 or 5.56mm though if different new bullet standards don't seem to offer any benefits or performance increases

>>4180
I wonder why so many countries, even small ones seem to be trying to update their small arms.
Functionally, little has changed in the last few decades save the explosion in usage of various attachments. But these could already be accommodated with minor modifications to existing inventories. In the grand realm of warfare, newer small arms ultimately produce little additional effect on the battlefield, fire support (e.g. artillery and airpower) still proves to be the main cause of casualties. Unless whatever new weapon has such a revolution in one area, its effect will always be marginal and the time and effort taken to introduce and update the entire chain of supply might be better used elsewhere.

It's for that reason that Uncle Sam, China and Russia used decades-old weapons (with upgrades) for so long, the M4A1, QBZ and the AK-74 are about as good as it gets until a new revolution in material science.

>>4186
New guns means a new opportunity for arms contractors I guess

>>4185
AFAIK the reason why 6.5mm is the hot new calibre is because 5.56mm is too focused on range and velocity for an assault weapon where everything is mid-ranged at most and sacrifices penetration capability, while 7.62mm was already replaced in the Soviet military primarily for being too heavy, so 6.5mm is in the middle of not being as heavy as 7.62mm while not being a pointlessly light, low penetrating but high velocity round as 5.56mm.

>>4186
>>4187
Guns simply get worn out over time and eventually you need to completely replace your 40 year old rifles since metal fatigue and corrosion and such means overhauling won't necessarily guarantee safety or reliability. They *could* just produce brand new M70s, but they could also design a brand new design with all the improvements desired (weight being a big one) with the possibility of exporting the weapon to make back the R&D costs. M70s might not be competitive export rifles forever and Zastava no doubt wants an exportable rifle that compete's with Kalashnikov's own AK-12 series.



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I like see with my own eys what's going on. I'd prefer footage of fighting over war crimes being commited but let's see it all. If you don't like just don't ge into the thread
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>>3917
In that last clip, what's that thing he puts on the tank?

>>3963
It's a tandem-HEAT warhead from an RPG-7, only the rocket unit is detached. Probably has a delayed fuse. They use some of their spare warheads as sticky bombs essentially.

>>3917
LOL I posted some of those too

Hamas video of clashes in Khan Yunis

why is there so little PIJ/Saraya footage ITT?

>>4111
>111
Checked
I don't know why, post some if you have them.



 

Why isn't the invasion of manchuria ever talked about?
It's easily in the running for one of the greatest feats of warfare ever executed as it was instrumental in the Japanese surrender, yet overshadowed by the enola gay.
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>>1296
Looks pretty good, thanks dude
Posting for everyone else

I mean, yea, that was quite an impressive feat of the red army, and the reason why the japanese surrendered.
But the Enola gay and the other nuke were fucking nukes, the literal two times were nuclear weapons were used. Like, I know it isn't that fair, but the nukes is possibly the more destructive thing ever made and they were dropped unto the civilian population destroying an entire city with just one bomb.
I mean, you could talk about how the dinosaurs became extinc because of their monstrous size requiring tons of food and so on and that we're destined to become extinct sooner or later, but people talk about the meteorite because it was a fucking meteorite.

Also it might be the reason why there aren't any alien civilizations out there, since the earliest space opera technology bullshit available to civilizations are literally nukes with the power to destroy civilization.

>>1315
Japanese sent surrender requests mutliple times before the nukes were dropped, the firebombing of Tokyo and other cities were way more devastating than the nuclear bombs when it came to civilian casualties.

The bombs were dropped so the US military could use their new toy they wasted so much budget on. Could you imagine the embarassment? Japan gains a conditional surrender and the whole Manhattan project was just a gigantic waste of money? It's worse when you consider the Japanese surrender terms, which are the same that the US occupation authorities granted to Japan, which were:

Let the emperor stay as ceremonial head of state,
Let the Japanese war criminals off the hook and
Accept Japanese overseas claims on some islands

Then there was the problem that the US had only fissile material for only three bombs, only uranium and two plutonium, and all three were used in the end, one test and two detonations over civilian cities with no military importance, which shows that it was rushed to be used.

Thankfully the Soviets finished their invasion of Manchuria at that point, or else there would've been an American occupied northeastern China in the worst case or the whole Korean peninsula under US hegemony.

Talking about the Soviets, the bombs were also used as a threat against them, in a grand showcase that the psychopathic US was ready to mass murder their enemies and poison the land with fallout for millions of years to come.

Your other point about the Fermi Paradox, it's more likely that we are the first, there is a serious lack of radio waves trashing through the universe, but nukes are a dangerous great filter. Let's see if the USA can step down without taking the whole world with them.

>>1276
dumbass

>>4140
He's right.



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