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(Just in case some /leftypol/ tourist starts yelling 'glow fed', I'm not American, this is purely out of curiosity, if anyone were serious they wouldn't be discussing it on a public pan-african permagrowth-designing forum, and it's not my fault if your opsec is atrociously shit)

The vid rel (from Examined Life) was posted a while ago, the punchline being the El Salvadorean telling the pessimistic American 'don't you have mountains in the US?' 'It's easy, you go to the mountains, you start an armed cell, you create revolution.' A recent reply retorted, absurdly, that the government would 'just McNuke' them.

It got me thinking a bit, the US despite MacArthur's efforts didn't iNuke any country since Japan and I suspect it would be very unlikely to do it on a civilized part of their own mainland. And ultimately, even in the modern age, the US has failed to really utilize their weaponry dominance. It's easy for the naive eye to look at drones, gun-dogs, tanks and planes and forget just how effective asymmetric warfare can be against superpowers.

The questions:
- Is creating a base of operations onnamountains a viable tactic in the US?
- Are there any modern US examples of successful guerilla tactics, urban or rural? Possible examples could include organized crime or rural compounds.
- How is asymmetric warfare changed by proximity? US wars in Asia and further have a noticeable supply issue with distance.
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>>3972
Eye don't know!

 

>>3997
do you even live in America?

 

>>3972
The rex from Iraq tell us that if you try to ambush soldiers you tend to die and you will suffer 8 losses per soldier you kill, but plant IEDs and you will kill 3 soldiers per insurgent shot.

This information is already public, I can not be held responsible for what someone might do with it.

 

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The US seems to lose to guerillas or revolutionaries more often than it would like to. Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Cuba, Nicaragua. Which begs the question: what are some countries that the US/West cannot afford to "lose". I am talking about countries that the US would do ANYTHING to prevent from "falling" or "turning sides", like do occupation of Poland or Manchuria levels of violence to maintain influence or whatever.

 

>>4670
Their immediate neighbour Canada would be the most obvious and easiest answer.

Following close behind would be Japan and South Korea in that order.

Potential countries the US might go crazy for are the UK, France, Germany and Australia.

Not sure where to put Mexico tbh.



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Picsrel (top to bottom):

>UAVs

>reconnaissance drones (these are quadcopter drones used for aerial filming that were disguised as toys)
>unmanned submarines that operate autonomously and navigate using GPS
>"ayyash" missiles (made from metal pipes leftover after the zionists got kicked out of Gaza, some warheads lifted from a WWI-era sunken British naval ship and a fuel engine w/ pumps that has a range of over 200km and can hit anywhere in Israel)

Is this the final intifada? Are they capble of ever standing a chance against Israel?
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>>4033
>I mean the original chaff used in WW2 was essentially metal strips being dropped by bombers to create false reflections in RADAR imageing, considering the limitations on RADAR size in a missile it would make sense for such a method to have some success
You basically answered yourself why adding tinfoil to the rocket is the most retarded thing ever.
Fixing chaff to a rocket just makes the target look bigger.

 

>>4045
You fail to understand what foil does to spoof low-power RADARs. It not only creates a RADAR profile, but distorts it, so that you can't actually get a good idea of the target's actual location or proximity, thus the Tamir missile seeker may 'think' that its on top of the target and detonate, when in fact it is ahead or behind the rocket, since the target is so imprecise.

Now again I'm just postulating this based on what I know about RADAR and chaff, so I could be wrong, but I wasn't the person that suggested foil as a method to begin with, I was only repeating a claim by a Raytheon engineer I heard of and thought interesting.

 

>>4047
>You fail to understand what foil does to spoof low-power RADARs. It not only creates a RADAR profile, but distorts it, so that you can't actually get a good idea of the target's actual location or proximity, thus the Tamir missile seeker may 'think' that its on top of the target and detonate, when in fact it is ahead or behind the rocket, since the target is so imprecise.
False for two reasons. Tinfoil doesn't distort radar that much and the Tamir uses a laser fuse together with the radar seeker at shortest range.

>Now again I'm just postulating this based on what I know about RADAR and chaff, so I could be wrong, but I wasn't the person that suggested foil as a method to begin with, I was only repeating a claim by a Raytheon engineer I heard of and thought interesting.

These rumors are lies in 99% of time and just cite authority to look more credible.

 

So in review, Hamas drones were an absolute failure once the invasion kicked off.

 

>>3825
Very well. The weapon market is at an all time right and there is now a popular demand from both side for more public spending. Every single weapon manufacturer get filthy rich from the taxpayer's money. This war is a total American victory.

>But all the people who die?

Leave that detail to the unwashed masses. Come on do you think the war on terror was about fighting terror? It's over, we need something new.



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What kind of comms are accessible to the layman? Are there any encrypted channel walkie talkies that would be good enough for use or what? I have no idea where to even start with these.
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>>3655
>luckily those rules only apply to the US
Almost every country bans encryption on CB and ham bands.

 

>>3658
not where I live. encryption is only banned in international QSOs

 

>>3659
Name the country

 

>>3659
Don't name the country

 

>>3653
Meshtastic LoRa comms are good. They're encrypted, and don't require a license. You can also combine an ATAK plugin with it. Sends GPS data. Pretty good, but its text only.



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Haven't seen this thread revived anywhere so I thought I'd bring it back myself

ITT: Discussions about stats of Soviet military hardware, tactics etc. Not strictly limited to Soviet stuff despite name.
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New Mustard just dropped

 

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I just uploaded a full rip of the Epic Soviet Documentaries channel to the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/epic-soviet-documentaries
328 videos, everything subtitled to English

 

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>>2877
Russia is a poor and corrupt country, they do stuff the cheap and dumb way because they can't do otherwise

 

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>>4381
As opposed to others who do it in an expensive and dumb way? LMAO.



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well, i think it's obvious Kek is a goverment religious OP, and along with other things we can consider that people have been in a mind-war since the creation of governance/hierarchy as an institution, though messing with these egyptian deities and other things is exactly how a capitalist would ultimately think, especially market-reasoning wise. Their goal in some angles is to control themselves past life and death.

And I think, as communists, anarchists, and other strands which declare liberation in resources, land, and space. We need to develop something for ourselves against these people. I know the DKMU exist, I think they are so far a great little addition as magickal forces out here, but it doesn't seem like we've had much like, people helping out on the areas of fighting against those things. Of course marxists, dumb it down to, "materialism is the one true" science thing, but to me, I still find them to be intertwined in a ultimately occult system of control on death, life, and areas that the capitalist tries to gain domain over, stripped into nihilism/atheism, but though, i think these systems can end up being eventually killed, which goes into the schizophrenictizing of capitalism along with just pure religion/paranoid territory, which the state tries to enforce, embrace, or mediate.

I think we can perform warfare though, at least, in defense from these people along with things, especially with their influence hopefully also. Though, we might be all silly doing it or small groups, but it could be fun along with help disrupt further authoritarian symbol along with language production around these things by attacking the thing in metaphysical space.

 

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>>4201
nope, those won't help sadly



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So Zastava and the Serbian Army have decided to venture away from the M70 (Yugoslav AK47 clone) as a service weapon and adopt the new M19 Modular Combat System.
It can use the old 7,62 mm cartridge and a proprietary 6,5 mm (based on Grendel) cartridge. Changing the cartridge involves a barrel swap, which can be done on-the-fly.
While it's has a lot of changes from the M70, it still uses the Kalashnikov system.
Is it too weird for a service rifle?

Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_M19
Video by a gun Youtuber from the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CE2wNnmIOg
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>>4180
Yugo-anon have you returned to us?

 

>>4183
I don't understand why not just keep using 7.62 or 5.56mm though if different new bullet standards don't seem to offer any benefits or performance increases

 

>>4180
I wonder why so many countries, even small ones seem to be trying to update their small arms.
Functionally, little has changed in the last few decades save the explosion in usage of various attachments. But these could already be accommodated with minor modifications to existing inventories. In the grand realm of warfare, newer small arms ultimately produce little additional effect on the battlefield, fire support (e.g. artillery and airpower) still proves to be the main cause of casualties. Unless whatever new weapon has such a revolution in one area, its effect will always be marginal and the time and effort taken to introduce and update the entire chain of supply might be better used elsewhere.

It's for that reason that Uncle Sam, China and Russia used decades-old weapons (with upgrades) for so long, the M4A1, QBZ and the AK-74 are about as good as it gets until a new revolution in material science.

 

>>4186
New guns means a new opportunity for arms contractors I guess

 

>>4185
AFAIK the reason why 6.5mm is the hot new calibre is because 5.56mm is too focused on range and velocity for an assault weapon where everything is mid-ranged at most and sacrifices penetration capability, while 7.62mm was already replaced in the Soviet military primarily for being too heavy, so 6.5mm is in the middle of not being as heavy as 7.62mm while not being a pointlessly light, low penetrating but high velocity round as 5.56mm.

>>4186
>>4187
Guns simply get worn out over time and eventually you need to completely replace your 40 year old rifles since metal fatigue and corrosion and such means overhauling won't necessarily guarantee safety or reliability. They *could* just produce brand new M70s, but they could also design a brand new design with all the improvements desired (weight being a big one) with the possibility of exporting the weapon to make back the R&D costs. M70s might not be competitive export rifles forever and Zastava no doubt wants an exportable rifle that compete's with Kalashnikov's own AK-12 series.



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I like see with my own eys what's going on. I'd prefer footage of fighting over war crimes being commited but let's see it all. If you don't like just don't ge into the thread
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>>3917
In that last clip, what's that thing he puts on the tank?

 

>>3963
It's a tandem-HEAT warhead from an RPG-7, only the rocket unit is detached. Probably has a delayed fuse. They use some of their spare warheads as sticky bombs essentially.

>>3917
LOL I posted some of those too

 

Hamas video of clashes in Khan Yunis

 

why is there so little PIJ/Saraya footage ITT?

 

>>4111
>111
Checked
I don't know why, post some if you have them.



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Why isn't the invasion of manchuria ever talked about?
It's easily in the running for one of the greatest feats of warfare ever executed as it was instrumental in the Japanese surrender, yet overshadowed by the enola gay.
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>>1296
Looks pretty good, thanks dude
Posting for everyone else

 

I mean, yea, that was quite an impressive feat of the red army, and the reason why the japanese surrendered.
But the Enola gay and the other nuke were fucking nukes, the literal two times were nuclear weapons were used. Like, I know it isn't that fair, but the nukes is possibly the more destructive thing ever made and they were dropped unto the civilian population destroying an entire city with just one bomb.
I mean, you could talk about how the dinosaurs became extinc because of their monstrous size requiring tons of food and so on and that we're destined to become extinct sooner or later, but people talk about the meteorite because it was a fucking meteorite.

Also it might be the reason why there aren't any alien civilizations out there, since the earliest space opera technology bullshit available to civilizations are literally nukes with the power to destroy civilization.

 

>>1315
Japanese sent surrender requests mutliple times before the nukes were dropped, the firebombing of Tokyo and other cities were way more devastating than the nuclear bombs when it came to civilian casualties.

The bombs were dropped so the US military could use their new toy they wasted so much budget on. Could you imagine the embarassment? Japan gains a conditional surrender and the whole Manhattan project was just a gigantic waste of money? It's worse when you consider the Japanese surrender terms, which are the same that the US occupation authorities granted to Japan, which were:

Let the emperor stay as ceremonial head of state,
Let the Japanese war criminals off the hook and
Accept Japanese overseas claims on some islands

Then there was the problem that the US had only fissile material for only three bombs, only uranium and two plutonium, and all three were used in the end, one test and two detonations over civilian cities with no military importance, which shows that it was rushed to be used.

Thankfully the Soviets finished their invasion of Manchuria at that point, or else there would've been an American occupied northeastern China in the worst case or the whole Korean peninsula under US hegemony.

Talking about the Soviets, the bombs were also used as a threat against them, in a grand showcase that the psychopathic US was ready to mass murder their enemies and poison the land with fallout for millions of years to come.

Your other point about the Fermi Paradox, it's more likely that we are the first, there is a serious lack of radio waves trashing through the universe, but nukes are a dangerous great filter. Let's see if the USA can step down without taking the whole world with them.

 

>>1276
dumbass

 

>>4140
He's right.



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What do we do about e guns, e cannons, drones and other electronic based weapons in future wars? How will these machines respond to tech like EMPs and multilayered radars?
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I don't know about these weird electric firing mechanism but the idea I had was a rifle with a barrel that adjusts itself automatically to aim for heatsignal. An autoaim of sorts. Also maybe with a camera as a scope that shows what it's seeing zoomed in, you could use this to aim without having to lay your head on the rifle and practically aim and shoot arround cornoers by only exposing your hands and the rifle.

 

>>4076
That's such an easy method to cause friendly fire. You'd need to have an identification system as well.

 

>>4079
to go into further detail, there would be a button and a screen that shows what the camera is seeing, you would have to hold the button to make the barrel adjust itself, and if your targets are mixed in with friendlies just don't hold the button and try firing without the autoaim or not fire at all at friendlies, idk

 

>>4053
https://topwar.ru/231286-rabotu-rossijskih-sistem-rjeb-v-sevastopole-vidno-iz-kosmosa.html

Apparently Russian Electronic Warfare and jamming is so strong that it's visible from satellites. It's part of the reason AWACs and Global Hawk drones are used by NATO to support Ukrainian operations for missile strikes in Russian territory.

The EW environment of the war means a lot of FPV drones on both sides use analog systems that are grainy as shit, since they're more resistant to jamming. Analog is also cheaper and it helps that drones are designed like a more advanced RC system that is resistant a lot because of the need to operate in areas like cities where Wi-Fi and other interference is everywhere. On top of that non-standard frequencies are used as back ups. Antennas, range extenders/repeaters and other relay systems are also used to actually make any sort of operations possible.

 

>>4129
>>4129
>Apparently Russian Electronic Warfare and jamming is so strong that it's visible from satellites
I'm fairly certain that a lot of that is due to inexperienced EW troops heavily jamming both Russian and Ukrainian stuff, as well as the relatively small size of the battlefield relative to the amount of EW weaponry



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I, for one, appreciate the PLA's effort to make Touhou real.

 

>>4095
I dunno who created this compilation, but I appreciate them sneaking Wargame footage in.



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