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What can we learn from the Russian invasion of Ukraine and this example of relatively modern warfare? Strategy, tactics, operations, geopolitical responses, information warfare, civilian pov and response. Anything related. Not the thread to talk about "who is in the right".
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>>5262
>ukrainian seem to have apparently used an old yak 52 training plane for shooting down drones with great success.
>forbes
LMAO no. Russia shot down those several times. Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is. The USSR leaned heavily on air-defenses and made the best in the world, but it still had a significant aircraft fleet, because air defenses alone are not getting the job done. Drones have vulnerabilities, and low-tech strike aircraft are niche.
>For these task, using a full blown, state of the art, 5th gen stealth jet airplane is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources.
True, which is why the Su-57 has been used against priority high-threat targets rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do. the Su-57 can absolutely mount the same weapons as those two, but it's a waste of time.

Additionally only low tech aircraft is a good way of high losses in a high-tech peer-conflict, or even a near-peer conflict. In the Gulf-war the A-10 had some of the highest loss rates of ANY aircraft in that war and many of its missions were accomplished by F-16s and F-15Ds at standoff ranges, in part because the US coalition lacked proper SAM defenses and relied only on air-superiority rather than a combined arms approach, they were lucky the Iraqis were weaker and more disorganized.

>>5264
>LMAO no.
no what ? do you deny you can shoot down a recon drone with a simple motor airplane ?

>Russia shot down those several times

even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace. And using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.

>Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is

no shit, way to miss the point.

>rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do.

any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane

>only low tech aircraft

I didnt advocate for having ONLY them. But do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s ?
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>>5270
Your spacing is ass, please don't do this.
>no what ?
You realize that people can scroll up and see exactly what I'm saying "no" to right? The fact is that Ukraine has failed to shoot down drones with its trainers, since it's literally pulling WW-1 shit, with people firing handguns out of open cockpits. There's literally a Russian drone video where they try and fail to shoot it down.
>even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace.
*laughs in long range SAM*
You realize that Ukraine has been using very long range stand-off weapons like cruise missiles and are STILL getting shot down, right? Only a few days ago an Su-35 shot down a MiG-29 - which was using a HARM missile in a long-range ground-strike - from over 200km away, with an R-37. Earlier in the war the S-300V4 set a similar record kill from a similar distance of over 200km. An S-400 shot down an Su-27 over Kiev earlier in the war from 150km away. Pantsir, Osa and Tor SPAAG/SAMs have shot down numerous low-flying missiles, drones and other aircraft.
>using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.
If you're an idiot using patriot anti-ballistic long-range missiles against drones. A single Tor missile costs maybe a couple thousand dollars. A single yak-52 costs 50-100 thousand dollars, so you're dead wrong.
>way to miss the point.
I didn't miss your point. I don't disagree in the necessity of low-tech aircraft, but not like Ukraine is doing, and frankly an attack chopper would do just as well, if not better.
>any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane
Any jet fighter would also be magnitudes more effective.
>do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s
In an SAM-heavy air-space like Ukraine? YES.
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>>2642
>The idea of it going to 2025
There is a lesson there. Stop being emotional, stop eating the propaganda slop, study everything and look closely at the serious people involved in war and political theory. Honestly I didn't need to do half of that to be sure that this stupid war would last a while so if you were wrong you really need to revamp your way of thinking

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>>4946
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Would ww3 actually be the end of the world, or would it be another regular war? Obviously the scale of a war between nato and russia, china, whoever would be significantly larger than america and iraq (for example) but would any country actually be stupid enough to use nuclear weapons?

Using nukes sort of defeats the point of going to war doesn’t it? If you turn a country into a radioactive wasteland:

A) they’ll just do it to you as well, and
B) even if they don’t retaliate, there will be nothing left to conquer, so you gain nothing

Modern governments view nuclear exchanges as survivable for the state but not the people.

The datacenters, ports, and supply chains are targets. Starvation kills the ones not killed by direct strike.

After the nuclear exchange, in person invasion with military forces occurs. Nuclear stock piles get built up. This cycle repeats every 100 to 1000 years. Nuclear war is cyclical, we just have not lived through the first cycle and have not seen it happen.

Radiation is reduced in favor of physical damage. Ground burst soot is reduced in favor of air burst damage.



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it's killing me;
what's are the major difference between the VZ-58 with it's short-stroke system and Type-81 attempt to improve the AK's shortcomings?

besides stamped/milled receiver?

would it be worth it trying to bring back the VZ58?
or has modern Chinese production AKs ended the AK pattern arms race?



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am I spiritually sick for feeling "less than" JSOC\Special ops\ex-SO PMCs and such elite soldiers?
Maybe it's a (((cope))) but I'm learning to have hyper-realistic lucid dreams so I can have tier-1 missions there with full realism.
I know war is evil, maybe it's even fake\a CGI+ crisis actor huge hoax but…I do really feel spiritually cucked and lucid dreaming seems the only realistic solution for me out of this

>>6117
Stay in your lane, the division of labour in capitalism means that someone has to specialise in some way.

>>6118

also i think spec ops are more likely to get fragged as they're dumb enough to go back for another tour meaning they're either war tourists who know they'll be jerking off in a tunnel and driving FPV drones or dumb cannonfodder just wanting to either have their relatives to cash what little insurance they leave behind / disposable retards with nobody to cash their insurance

see
https://www.youtube.com/civdiv
a radlib confident enough he'll be in a cushy spot, as soon as shit got real in the YPG he bailed out and left all those dumb brown people to die alone

rest assured he'll do the same in Cuckraine if he hasn't yet already.

>>6119
Civ Div has done more for leftist ideology than you've ever done in your life.

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>>6120

>leftist



 

For those who aren't lawyers, injury is generally illegal. Because of this, obstruction or neutralization of class enemies and class traitors is often restricted to adventurism or fantasy, maybe even intimidation if you and others are organized well enough (congratulations!)

Let us explore a potent but seemingly unexplored (or at least underground) counter-strategy. A safe, simple, long-term strategy of stochastic opportunistic biowarfare.
This is not biowarfare in the conventional sense of directly poisoning enemies, so if you want to culture your own mold and plant it in a chud's HVAC then this isn't for you.
Instead, we intent so seize an opportunity to accelerate the self-poisoning of (overwhelmingly) reactionaries. I want you to envision a land of raw meat and dairy, tallow and ghee, supplement cocktails and Ivermectin doping. Oh, that's the world the reactionary grifters are already implementing… if these obviously dangerous diets and medication are so normal among the anti-communists, perhaps we can kick this up a notch. It's easy to poison someone with seemingly-innocuous things: beef liver, brazil nuts, water intoxication. It's very easy to demonize treatments like vaccines and healthier alternatives to traditional habits. It's simple to trick reactionaries into rejecting things seen as progressive, like soy, veganism and seed oils, and jumping up to mirror it with ridiculous excessive meat over-consumption. Simply tell them that warnings and regulations are liberal disinformation and a significant amount of these idiots will want to believe it.

The best part is, you can make money from slowly poisoning reactionaries. Millions of well-funded capitalists are investing millions and billions into selling unhealthy products, they want as many sold as possible. Look at how the dairy industry in the USA has managed to normalize cow's milk as an essential nutritional component. Look at how propagandist streamers and podcasters are throwing supplement pill ads at their audience. These capitalist companies don't care about long-term effects, they're fatally bound to the short-term lines and how far they go up. And for those in the USA, bourgeois deregulation will make more and more of these tactics completely legal.
We can help dismantle the right and make them pay for it. What's not to love?
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>>5960
type shit I would do If I wanted to kms

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You can literally poison these fuckers with the All Meat Diet and bad advice, and they'll blame da devil.

>>6104
Anyone who blames any sort of mishap on the devil is usually not cognitively fit.

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Sometimes you have to accept the cost of standing up for something.

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you said biowarfare and now i'm scared of braapfrens swarming the thread at any moment.



 

Post your fave gun of the week here

starting with my week favorite's:

>Jezail Musket AKA Tortobak

>CETME Ameli
>SHMT-1 Vietnam's Galil ACE clone in 5,56

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pretty fond of the yugo m56



 

I am planning on getting a pistol I can hopefully concealed carry when get a permit for that. Currently, I’m considering the H&K VP9SK because I’m an H&K shill, but I am open to suggestions.
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>>5659
I've never fired anything less ergonomic than those boxy pig pistols. Literally anything but a block that isn't gonna blow upnin your hand. I despise those shitty little shit guns, no safety, throwin hot brass in my face, god damn.

hellcat

i carry an echelon 4.0c and it's pretty nice

Depends on what I'm wearing.

Generally if I'm just around the house or running to town quickly, I carry a Smith and Wesson Bodyguard 2.0 in my pocket.

If I'm in winter clothes, usually it's a Ruger RXM with the full size frame.

Summer carry (I usually wear Hawaiian shirts and shorts) I carry my SA-35 or M9 Centurion in an owb concealment holster.

You really just need to get out, go to a range that has rentals and shoot some. See what you like and purchase from there.

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A big fucking revolver loaded with +P ammo and a bunch of loose rounds in every single pocket you have



 

excavating tunnels, trenches, ditches, ramparts, moats, holes, any kind of defensive earthwork where industrial machinery isn't viable

you can get most stuff off of amazon or any hardware or milsurp store
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>>5470
>infantry using self made fortifaction will die (even though those manholes were invented to succesfully defend against artillery) so let me pull up things that are completely useless when it comes to surviving artillery

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You need a shovels, big and small for dirt and sand, a pickaxe to remove the bigger rocks in the dirt which stop you from shoveling, axe or a separate very sharp shovel for cutting roots in the way but ideally you wouldnt dig near obvious giant tree roots, buckets and ropes and ladders and hardhats and pulleys for removing all the rocks and dirt, if youre throwing rocks out of the hole, call out first, If youre lifting rocks out of the hole with a pully get out of the hole first. Reinforce the walls and roof of the tunnels with something, make the tunnels a oval or circle shape to help it not cave in. Its going to get really cold down there so get some wooden or plastic chairs / beds that are up off the ground or it will suck the heat out of your body and kill you, rain flooding and drainage and pests are other considerations to think about, tape up your boots around your ankles or youll get sand in them all day. I had a ton of fun digging a 5 foot wide 15 foot hole deep in my buddies backyard in south California summer time and I swear to god I got so cold down there. They say its a constant 54 degrees F I think? Men love digging for some reason I'd totally do it all over again just for fun.

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Risk: Flood the tunnel
Countermeasure: Insert floor gaps for water to exit. Don't make it water tight.

Risk: Ground Penetrators.
Countermeasure: Windy tunnels, blast doors. Valves.

Risk: Concrete that is harder than ground but softer than concrete.
Countermeasure: Just keep digging.

Risk: Synthetic Aperture Radar and Wide Area Motion Imagery notice your release of mined material.
Countermeasure: Do it in bad weather in deniable ways. Grind everything up first.

Risk: Soil Testing validates that mined material has been released here.
Countermeasure: Mix it up. Scatter lightly?

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>>6102
Clarification: I posted an OSM Image at random. The goal is to say, you won't be digging in rural nowhereville. You will be digging in big city where 80% of the surface is building or road.

>>6102
Is there any way we could use GPR to our advantage? Tunnels already exist under cities, from sewers to weirder stuff. We need to either avoid them or use them as existing infrastructure to expand on. Also there's really no way to defeat GPR, it can now penetrate up to 100ft, which is first of all way too deep (every entrance from a building would require an elevator or very long sloped descent), and they would be able to see the entrance points anyways, just not a whole map of the tunnel system.

Also how would we get rid of mined material? The best civilian vehicle for the job is a pickup but they don't hold very much, progress would be super slow that way. Anything larger, or constant revolving pickups, would draw attention.

I think the only answer to all of these is that tunnels are only viable in communities that can resist surveillance, or which are already functionally independent, making surveillance useless in the short term. Even if they can map the tunnels, tunnels help mask movement, hide from bombs, and could house facilities for weapons production



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Hello, I am mister CIA Glowmongerer, how traceable (easy to find) are drone kaboom attacks? Are they 100% anonymous kabooms if you handle the drone with gloves to not leave fingerprints? If you buy a generic drone w camera remote antenna thing and somehow manage to put kabooms with remote trigger on it, how could they possible figure out it was you if you're not in America and CIA aren't satellite tracking your microwave brainwaves?
Like if you live in turd world shithole where police are not CIA level skillz and get drone and kabooms from flea market?

The government can track the signals of an antenna drone. If you were to do this in your minecraft server you'd want a fiber optic drone like seen in Ukraine. Though if they find the drone itself they can track the manufacturer and buyer. Your absolute best bet is 3d printing as many components as possible and buying the wiring and hardware with cash.

Forensics:
The Camera is a HD 720P Bob Bill Copywrited 2023.
The frame is made of this type of composite.
The filament is eSun PLA+ Grey 2.
Of the town of 100K, who bought that type of camera and that type of Filament? Only 2 people. Bring both in and wait until 1 confesses.

Considerations:
The future is urban. Drones require on board intelligence to do well in urban indoor spaces. Anyone you are targeting will run indoors and underground.

Onboard compute requires very unique chips and knowledge. Vibe coding this system won't be possible without uncensored 250B Q8 models that require thousands of dollars of NPU/GPU systems.

Governments have radio sensor arrays that detect signals across the RF band. They can observe stuff.

Airport Radars can see drones. The airport radar that sees a Cesna at cruising altitude at the horizon can see your 1M VTOL Drone at 5 to 10 KM.

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Getting away with it. In this thread. We discuss important details about egressing from a hypothetical scene of a crime without being detected.

Secret Aerial Surveillance Program Watched Over Baltimore for Months
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Mangione showed his face.
Robinson was ratted out by his father.
Its very simple if you don't want to be caught.

Depends on the crime. Never show your face, leave your phone at home, wear unassuming clothing (blue jeans, dark shirt. All black is suspicious. Clothing can be used to hide your build if you're particularly identifiable. Just don't wear what you normally would.), leave no trace, don't tell a soul (that includes people on anonymous message boards.)

If you're so inclined, 3d print a gun. Upper kits (slide, barrel, everything except the receiver) for some glocks can be bought for ~400 USD. They're reliable enough to shoot a magazine without jamming (if you build it right) and not blow up in your hands. Main benefit is they aren't serialized/tracked by the ATF. "ghost guns" or whatever.

One of the most important factors: people. You're infinitely more likely to get away with it if you have nobody close to you at all (family, friends, colleagues, etc.)

The world has never been more surveilled yet people get away with low-profile murders, robberies, etc. more often than you'd think. the US government takes shit seriously but they're not infallible. Unless you're already on their radar (making terroristic threats online, prior criminal offender, etc.) you're probably not being actively monitored. Even moderate attempts to obscure your online identity are better than nothing. just don't be an idiot.

not real (or exhaustive) advice. all jokes

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It's not enough to just be smart, you also have to be a sociopath to get away with doing bad things. What if some random child happens to witness your crime? Do you have it in you to kill an innocent child and chop up his corpse to cover your tracks, or would you rather go to prison forever? Are these the kinds of choices you want to be forced to make in your life?

T. Robinson was caught because of his friends and family, and frankly, L. Mangione probably was too.

You know how you can recognize which of your family members is walking around the house purely by their gait? Yeah, masks/clothes/whatever aren't going to help you if your crime is high profile enough for your mom to see footage.

A ghost FPV drone could probably get the job done, but that'll only work once or twice before they start putting jammers everywhere. (Actually, is it possible to put jammers without disabling telecom in general? Maybe it's a catch-22)

>>6002
Always on jammers use power and create a baseline. Hidden, sudden, directional, pulses are the way to go.

"Find the bomber, not the bomb". They want to find the drone makers. Forensics for drone purchases will increase.



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