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 No.1268[Reply]

Why isn't the invasion of manchuria ever talked about?
It's easily in the running for one of the greatest feats of warfare ever executed as it was instrumental in the Japanese surrender, yet overshadowed by the enola gay.
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 No.1282

>>1279
The WW2 /edu/ thread contains good stuff, but to be honest the only complete picture of the Red Army Tactics of the war are going to be in Russian (soviet) literature.

 No.1283

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>>1268
>Why isn't the invasion of manchuria ever talked about in the West?
FTFY, Manchuria and its conflicts are not forgotten in the former USSR
>overshadowed by the enola gay
You've answered your query; it isn't politically expedient for the American people to know that Japan's surrender (and in fact the reason they never attacked the USSR at all) is due to numerous defeats at Soviet hands, specifically Khalkin Gol and "Operation August Storm". On the latter I have a pdf on it that I'll post later.

 No.1296

>>1279
Glantz wrote a good book on Manchuria

 No.1297

File: 1645438804872.pdf (9 MB, 184x255, Glantz-lp8.pdf)

>>1296
Looks pretty good, thanks dude
Posting for everyone else

 No.1315

I mean, yea, that was quite an impressive feat of the red army, and the reason why the japanese surrendered.
But the Enola gay and the other nuke were fucking nukes, the literal two times were nuclear weapons were used. Like, I know it isn't that fair, but the nukes is possibly the more destructive thing ever made and they were dropped unto the civilian population destroying an entire city with just one bomb.
I mean, you could talk about how the dinosaurs became extinc because of their monstrous size requiring tons of food and so on and that we're destined to become extinct sooner or later, but people talk about the meteorite because it was a fucking meteorite.

Also it might be the reason why there aren't any alien civilizations out there, since the earliest space opera technology bullshit available to civilizations are literally nukes with the power to destroy civilization.



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 No.317[Reply]

>wants a gun to “defend himself” from the American government and libruls
>buys guns and ammo exclusively from American govt corporations like the NRA and liberal economies
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 No.320

>>317
>buys guns and ammo exclusively from American govt corporations like the NRA and liberal economies
What the fuck are you talking about? The NRA doesn't sell guns, and it's not a government corporation. Are you high/drunk right now? It's not safe to handle firearms while intoxicated. Sleep it off and post when you're sober.

 No.324

>>320
i think they mean the companies funding the NRA

 No.330

>>317
>>318
This is just blatantly wrong. You shouldn't let ideology lead your life to the point where you get this out of touch with reality.

 No.338

>>324
No. I get giving the guy the benefit of the doubt, but this post was just retarded and he should feel bad.

 No.1298

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>>317
Kek, reminded me of pic rel



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 No.905[Reply]

It’s too fast, so fast to the point where if you were driving a car you would need to be hours away from your destination to properly land this fucking thing when it’s zipping around at hundreds to thousands of kilometres an hour l
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 No.941

>>921
Lol.
Aren automatic weapoms even real at this point? Haven't seen one, except for the murican soldiers that "claim" they use them.
Maybe it's all a conspiracy to prevent the working mases from arasing. Rise workers, with your flintlock muskets!

 No.1108

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>>921
SHIT THEY'RE ONTO US

 No.1109

>>917
Clippy has attained sentience and is accessing your plane, oh no.

 No.1143

>>916
Nah its only a couple dummies

 No.1205

>Chinese jet pilots: Meow over the radio
<US media: Chinese pilots threatened innocent US plane!
LMAO



 No.978[Reply]

What's the most pointless war in recent history?
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 No.1116

>>1103
>this site is under the radar of the government?
Sorry for any misunderstanding, English is not my first language

I mean "it flies under the radar of the goverment" as in "leftypol.org is not a popular or even known site to the government for them to even ban"

 No.1118

>>1116
Ahh ok, I see now. I had interpreted that as leftypol was known by the government but not seen as something to censor.

 No.1152

Second Libyan Civil War. At least it's over now.

 No.1155

>>1070
Pretty sure it was because some dude put a Beer bottle up his ass lmao

 No.1180




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 No.1153[Reply]

The US tried to capture a "terrorist" in Idlib, the helicopter the special forces were using ended up getting shot down.

 No.1156

Who were they going after? That Golani HTS commander? Also did the crewmen of the heli die?

 No.1157

>>1156
I couldn't find anything about the fate of the Crewman. Apparently it was ISIS commander, though we don't know this for sure. It is known that this happened in Afrin.

 No.1158

they did kill him and he was the new isis leader



 No.1094[Reply]

 No.1098

>>1094
The story of this video is the US forces being overwhelmed by the yellow hordes, that is the standard propaganda narrative, so I'm guessing it's not accurate.

On the technical side: China has focused more on rocket forces than air force, they would launch a lot of anti ship missiles instead of jet fighters to sink US warships. Chinese air to air missiles don't seem to be able to hit US fighter planes. I don't know the technical specs but that feels like plot armor for the main protagonist.

 No.1102

>>1098
>The story of this video is the US forces being overwhelmed by the yellow hordes, that is the standard propaganda narrative
Yeah because the scenario involves a single carrier group operating in the China sea. Obviously the Chinese are going to have a numerical advantage since they can deploy forces from the mainland.

 No.1105

>>1094
Is this the simulation where China attacks with aircraft first instead of attacking with missiles first and using aircraft later to finish off survivors?

 No.1117

>>1105
The aircraft are used to "use up" interception missiles from the US destroyers and cruisers so they will be more vulnerable to the DF-21.

 No.1133

>>1117
China has enough rockets in the coastal defense system to drown the interceptors with sheer volume of fire. Seems unrealistic.
The US best option is to draw the Chinese outside of their land missile range while bombarding their sea bases on the artificial islands to cut them off.



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 No.1089[Reply]

Not much of a military fag but was the USSR not even a horde? You always see it portrait as such in the movies that the USSR was a horde of people while the nazis were elite and superior but outnumbered
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 No.1091

Also see this great thread in edu >>>/edu/220

 No.1095

>>1090
> (for political reasons)
What are these political reasons?

 No.1096

le leftypol infographic

 No.1097

Obviously it wasn't a horde. Worth noting though that that info graphic was made by an actual schizo who thinks that the Germans lost 4 million men in 1941 because Stalin said so in a speech lmao. Vid related is an actually competent debunking of the "Red Asiatic Horde" myth.

 No.1099

>>1095
The Nazi ruling class were capitalist and anticommunist, the Soviet ruling class were communist and anti-capitalist. The "Western" ruling class is capitalist and anticommunist and sympathized much more with the Nazis than the Soviets, it even rescued and employed the Nazis after the war to help fight Communism. The west had a need to portray the nazis as stronger and superior but doing a naughty by invading Western Europe and all the heinous genocide and torture and shit that went public. This needed to portray the Soviet Union as having a twisted pipe dream that sounds seductive and maybe even some of you guys think what they're saying doesn't sound that bad but look what happened to the people when they trusted those commies, they had no weapons or technology or strategy, they just had to throw bodies at the naughty nazi ubermensch to defeat them because communists just treat their citizens like flesh sacks.
The western capitalists liked the nazis and fascists, they appreciated their work in putting down communists and worker's movements all across Europe. The people hated them because of how much pain and misery and death they caused, an entire generation of men or more wiped out in many countries. If the western people knew it was the Soviets that defeated the nazis almost single handedly that would cast communism in a much different light. Nor could the Western capitalists fawn over the nazis, for obvious reasons. So what ended up happening was that the achievements of the Soviet's was understated, their war effort twisted to make them look like savage barbarians and the nazis were cast as the sophisticated and powerful elite force of evil that was bad but also really strong and cool. The western capitalists used the actual barbarity of the nazis when it suited them and overshadowed it with shit like wehraboo fetishism in the media at other times. They also secretly supported and bankrolled underground neonazis and quietly installed the old nazis back into governments in West Germany, the EU, NATO, and several American Domestic agencies, even the intelligence agencies of Israel after the war, and this process applied to fascists all over Europe and Asia. Capital wants you to admire the Nazis and hate the Soviets but not know just how cozy they were.



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 No.110[Reply]

>ammo prices still too fucking high
>try making nitrocellulose with nitric acid and ping pong balls
>buy 500 ping pong balls
>they're all made of plastic
>now I just have a bunch of nitric acid and ping pong balls
help a poor uyghur out
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 No.123

>>122
That a golden boy? I’ve been meaning to get a lever-action, how do you like it?

 No.124

>>110
>get attacked
>release the ping pong balls
>attacker trips over ping pong balls
>attacker breaks neck

 No.125

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speaking of chemistry: >>>/edu/5724

>>123
it's not my picture, I found it on /r/socialistra I think. also https://johnbrownprints.com/

 No.126

>>110
I am fairly certain you can do it with just plain cotton as well.
Nitrocellulose was developed from a cotton rag being used to clean up a nitric acid spill, no?

 No.1083

uygha



 No.30[Reply]

As is known, the earliest example of guns, your matchlocks and percussion cap rifles were not really the most accurate things in the world, so aiming was seen as more "point in the general direction and hope for the best" more than a tool to increase accuracy. This would carry over into WW1, while the rifles were indeed much more accurate, to the point of aiming allowing soldiers to hit targets from great distances with great, well, accuracy, the military high commands of that era were sluggish to realize just how industrialization had changed warfare - it was not until the interwar period that there was serious experimentation on how to perfect the new mode of war, and to discard the old Napoleonic era of tactics in favor of what we generally recognize as modern warfare.

This stance in pic 1 being used is an old school sport shooting stance. It's actually a very accurate stance, as it puts the fulcrum of the rifle in line with the shooters center or mass. But, it's an impractical position for warfare, as it requires to be both standing upright as well as fully still. Though, at the time nations started to field snipers, the majority of them were trained by or just were hunters and sport shooters - many of the USSR's snipers were just country boys who enjoyed hunting turning their skills into tools to destroy fascism.

Another adaptation of the era was pistols - though they had existed prior, their mass utilization by infantry was entirely new, and there was very little standardization of shooting stances for accuracy. What ended up getting adopted by most nations was largely their "officer's stances", which was a position that was once used for holding aloft officer's swords, before pistols became the status symbol of the office. Pic 2 is the American army, pic 3 the Germans, and pic 4 the English. The only concern of this stance is getting the shot on target, it was popular with dueling and target shooting. If you've seen videos of people shooting like this, you'll know there's very little recoil control - making it impractical for warfare due to difficulty of follow up shots. You can see an example of these kinds of hold-over firing positions in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP7J-JNSUu4
A lot of these old stances have no modern equivalents in warfare, but others are the ancestors to our modern forms.

 No.31

>>30
>This would carry over into WW1
t. doesn't know about the invention and use of the rifle

 No.311

very interesting thanks OP

 No.1079

>your matchlocks and percussion cap rifles were not really the most accurate things in the world, so aiming was seen as more "point in the general direction and hope for the best"

This isn't true. There were sorts of snipers in the 18th century and you would be expected to aim and hit a target from at least 100 metres away. People just didn't like actually killing each other.



 No.1066[Reply]

https://youtu.be/KoYFE7dXdAk
>Soviet Sniper Describes Hunting Enemy on Eastern Front (1941) // Memoir of Yevgeni Nikolaev


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