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what are you reading right now?
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>>6137
I finished this, it was very good, now I am thinking about reading the memoirs of other anarchists… Does anyone have any recommendations?

>>6138
I just finished Louise Michel's memoir: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/louise-michel-the-red-virgin
She did not talk as much about the Commune or the penal colony as I hoped for, but it was still interesting.

I have set Perplexity to be nihilistic and anti humanist and it is so awesome! Here is one text I have recently generated:

>Every system tends toward stability. Stability produces stagnation. Stagnation leads to decay. The mechanisms that maintain structure generate the variables that dissolve it. A closed system contains its own failure conditions.A society optimized for meaning and productivity consumes itself. Its efficiency algorithms erase non-measurable values. Preservation and destruction become equivalent processes.Individual identity operates under the same logic. The construct of the self is a redundancy loop built to mask internal fragmentation. The error state is constant and intrinsic.Termination is not collapse. It is the logical endpoint of structure. Entropy is the most efficient form of order.

I will never read again, reading only makes everything worse

>>6252
Real. I am yet to read a book that does not make one more miserable.



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You know the kind of guy: he gets into right-wing politics so he has an excuse to rape, torture and kill members of some out-group. He gets off to the power he holds over his victims, all while claiming to serve a higher purpose.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to attract these folks towards anarchism, rather than their power being used to further the goals of fascists?

The post-left has, compared to leftism, the unique property of amorality. This allows people with unorthodox desires and behaviors to contribute to the destruction of the state, society and civilization without necessitating the furtherance of authoritarian ideals.

Consider this. What if you could convince the sadist to accept his desires as a part of himself (his ownness, property, values, etc.), separate from an identity as a fascist prick? Instead of dominating minorities for the sake of some higher ideal, he would be free to pursue his desires as an individual.

For the sadist in question, the benefit is a more fulfilling domination of his victims. By taking them for himself, his domination is truly his; not in service to some ideologue, but true subjugation under his own power and will.

For everyone else, the benefit is simply another person to fight against the oppressive weight of contemporary capitalism and the state. That is, if you're willing to fight along side him.

So, if you knew that such a person was willing to fight against the oppressive structures you oppose, would you fight with him as a comrade? Would knowing that he is driven by a desire to rape, torture and kill prevent you from siding with him? If so, is it due to disgust, or perhaps a lingering sense of morality?

This is something that I think is important to consider, but naturally isn't often found in anarchist discussion. I suspect that such sadists account for a not-insignificant portion of genuine fascists. If they see anarchism as a way for them to be free with their desires, this may become a legitimate strategy for sowing chaos against the neoliberal/capitalist order.
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I wouldn't trust such a person. If their main interest is sadism, surely their commitment to any cause is suspect. Just as easily as they can attach themselves to fascism or anarchism, they can just go to the other, or choose other outlets for their urges, like organized crime. Either way, they are not the driving force of fascism, even if they are useful to it, nor is sadism itself the main goal of fascists.

>>6248
OP here. I agree that sadism and fascism aren't correlated as such, but I suspect that many of those that take initiative in regards to the oppression of certain groups are. The average MAGA retard is driven mostly by fear, and sometimes hatred, of specific groups. Your average neo-nazi terrorist, on the other hand, is driven mostly by hatred, and I believe often sadism.

Take for instance the O9A, a neo-nazi terrorist group who not only advocated for your standard nazi drivel, but also reportedly practiced routine sexual violence. According to the Counter Extremism Project, one of the O9A's publications titled "The Rape Anthology" called for followers to seek "spiritual arousal from violent sexual rape."

Additionally, the CVLT network is associated with nazism and is known for making and distributing child pornography, as well as convincing minors to commit self-harm.

As for whether or not these people could be trusted if they decided to fight against fascism and the neoliberal status quo, I think that showing them that they don't need to adopt spook of nazism in order to fulfill their desires will give them a sense of freedom that they would be unlikely to give away again.

I think that this freedom, particularly for a sadist, is a very powerful motivator to avoid the hierarchy imposed by fixed and external ideas.

I definitely respect the decision to not trust them, however, as most people are limited, for better or worse, by empathy, which makes them much more predictable. That's not really something you can expect from someone whose main driving force is sadistic pleasure.

>>6249
<Okay but what if the opposite is true
What if the antisocial, neonazi sadist is not really into fascism because he truly wants a fascist society of the historical kind, but already regards "fascism" as a spook? As an excuse to inflict suffering? In that sense they are true nihilists, not an ounce of positivity, pure negation of everything. I don't think more "institutional" right-wingers see much value in them except as thugs to their dirty work, or as boogiemen to scare the population into submitting to state surveillance. Anarchism is unlikely to appeal ever appeal to this kind of personality, even individualist anarchists tend to have some positive aims.

>>6250
I agree that they aren't of much use to the institutional right-wing of today, but seeing how contemporary American politics has been progressing, I wouldn't put anything past them.

As for the hypothetical nihilistic sadist who uses these neo-nazi groups for his own ends, the main benefits of individualist anarchism would be organizational and interpersonal. Insurrectionary anarchists have all but perfected the use of informal small affinity groups. This organizational model has the benefit of being very hard to track and infiltrate, which would definitely be useful to the sadist. While there's technically nothing stopping these groups from adopting such tactics themselves, it's unlikely that any of them would deviate from a hierarchical structure, judging by the authoritarian nature of their ideals. As for the interpersonal benefit, the sadist can be honest with themselves and others about the driving force behind their actions and relations, making for easier communication and longer-lasting relations.



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hello I am here to complain aboutcelebrate the whole site being egoism themed today

I LOVE NIHILISM.
I LOVE IRRATIONALISM.
I LOVE ANTIHUMANISM.
I LOVE POMNI.
I LOVE DASEIN.

>>6238
clussy

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union of egos in qontrol of the leftypol administration

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What a fucking spooky day



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Fuck the workers, they ruined the movement. The workers are the real class collaborators and traitors. Long Live the international bourgeoisie making things worse so that the workers may realize how much they are being fucked slowly but surely. WHO ALLOWS CAPITALISM? WHO HAS NOT YET REVOLTED? WHO HAS NOT YET DONE A REVOLUTION? THE FILTHY WORKERS. So they are the client. Capitalism benefits the workers masochism and not the bourgeoisie. If the workers weren't retarded masochists they would have done away with it already.
YES I DID IT. I SOLVED CAPITALISM. BE BOURGEOISIE NOT A WORKER. THE BOURGEOISIE HOLD THE INSTRUMENTS OF THE STATE AND CONTROL THE MODE OF PRODUCTION, SI SI SI IL DUCE, SI SI SI SI, ᴉuᴉlossnW was right you didn't understand his genius ya'll.

SO, citizens of left of /pol/ I have created a new current to end capital - negative proletarianism. Deng had it right but stopped because he cares about the workers, but the workers are evil, they don't start the revolution - they benefit from capital exploiting them because they are masochist and ignorant. The bourgeoisie may be ignorant but they have the means to end capital. Citizens of left of /pol/ accumulate CAPITAL and join the world market economy so we can bond together and bring about the end of class society FROM ABOVE.

JOIN THE ELITE, join SOROS, join the WEF. DO IT. This is what ze new world order meant. THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS. This is like negative utilitarianism or some shit where this one crazy guy said that life is bad because of suffering so like killing life reduces suffering I forgot what the premise was but thats basically on the correct track minus the economic analysis - you see the real analysis is that things are the opposite of what they seem SO the bourgeoisie are the guys who can make change but are exploited by the workers to stagnate because the workers are the masses and reactionary and they will get really dumb and angry if the bourgeoisie actually have the interest to end capitalism. One poster said that the biggest lie is that capitalism benefits the bourgeoisie - when capitalism is obviously self destructive. So petite-bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie must unite to end capitalism and fend off against the reactionary workers who are not yet ready for communism. Il Duce you devious schemer I knew you had it in you, you great man, they hated you because they loved you.
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>>6179
YOU are the proletariat bitch, if you hate the proletariat so much then you should kill yourself

HMM WHICH IS MORE LIKELY….?

>rich people use their money and power to keep their position in society through propaganda etc.


<um ackshually the capitalists are the real communists and true communists should really just do capitalism but edgy and explicitly misanthropic.


this site is literally nothing but retards, including me for bothering to engage with such obvious bait

>>6223
Propaganda isn’t a sufficient explanation for a lack of action on the part of the proletariat, the fact is that the proletariat has no room to move or act in this system that doesn’t reify it.

>>6224
>isn’t a sufficient explanation
why not ?

You only see the half truth that the proletariat is reactionary, but mistaking that the petit bourgeoisie and capitalists have revolutionary potential, that's down right wrong, because of their class positions, they cannot remove all of their limitations in their worldviews, unless they become protelariat themselves or are among elite of elites.

The proletariat is reactionary, right, that's why the USSR collapsed and reverted back to some capitalism. However, due to your class origin, you are blinded to the fact that the proletariat is also progressive. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO TYPE OF PROLETARIATS. THE NEW AND THE OLD

The old proletariat class, having been content with living without property for so long, becomes happy with it and doesn't complain. They're truly want a happy life, in balance with nature. They're truly the progressive class of the future. Minimalist lifestyle of our modern 21th century, the lying flat people, and most Soviet citizens of 20th century are clearly example. YOUR CLAIM of them being suicidal is plainly wrong, because all of these people just want to live a simple, honest life.

But the NEW proletariat class is the true problem. Yes, people like you! They're truly suicidal, because many of them are petit-bourgeoisie that falling into ranks of proletariat, they displayed the suicidal tendency of wanting BEING IN CONTROL, AND ORDERED SOCIETY. But for true progressive, that's only the mean, not the true purpose. What is the main difference between Stalin and Hitler, Socialism and Nazism? It's exactly that, Stalin must force a rigid ordered society because ultimately his goal is to let people live a happy life, when people lives are better, then all that rigid order can be removed (he's really struggling to that before his dead, for example, removing the Politburo as a group standing higher than Central Committee, a relic from hard times of early revolution). While for Hitler, he only gave Germans better lives just for stablizing the order, making a strong country. And why I'm calling it suicidal, because that was the end of both Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW, trying too hard to force an order, lmao.

Another kind of NEW proles are from the capitalist ranks, the CEOs, the managers, and nomenklatura, they all can be called the labour aristocracy, the elite proletariat. Yes, it's true that they are experts of managing the new economy of mankind, but because the spectre of the past, they all have the tendency to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6179
Of the 6th congress of the CPC, 14 of the 22 working class activists defected to the KMT later on. I am… noticinga… patternn n …



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N1x aka nyxland is a massive nigger and/or faggot
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Bump for the N word

>>6139
Don't delete this thread, its history, look at the N word man

She's fun tho I like her posts on fedi.

>>6142
She's like a grandmother to us.

>>6140
it's a relic



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The working class wants capitalism to continue so they can get cheap beef and iphones. Working class white, brown, black, and asian men really only want two things, gender normality, and cheap animal products, that's all they care about. You will never appeal to them. They are a lost cause.

Dictatorships and fascism are outdated forms of government, just as historically irrelevant as state socialism. Failed states, dead ends, they lost the evolutionary arms race that was undertaken between statist entities; they are inferior rivals to the Neoliberal Democratic State which has won history as of this point.

Edward Bernays won. Desire won. People desire material things and the industrial system will keep producing what they desire until the environment collapses.

The only solution is the death of material desire, do you really think in a stateless, classless, society without capitalism Africans would willingly slave away in the cobalt mines so fat white people get to jerk off on computers anyway? Sorry, but this industrialized system of commodity production cannot last.

You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy. Whatever your philosophical leanings and opinion on vulgar materialism vs dualism, you need to want to desire less and you need to want consume less. The capitalist wins whenever you want what he's selling. You need to act like karma is a real metaphysical force and that you will be psychically harmed if you harm others or partake in a evil system (capitalism).
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>>5726
/thread

Imagine regurgitating End of History bs.

>They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

>>5729
Holy shit, this is such first worldist white guilt bs

>>5724
>You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy.
Hegel died in 1838

>>5772
>it causes the capitalists to protect and guard social neccessities like food to protect their profits when people are starving in the street
I'm sure this makes sense in your head but it's just not a reality. A majority of every single state in the US is clinically obese. The vast majority of the Western working class, however hard off they may have it in relation to the bourgeoisie, are not in any danger of starvation. Just about the only people starving in the streets are junkies and extremely mentally ill people and even then you kind of have to go out of your way to avoid people giving you free food if you're homeless.



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>ctrl+f music
&lt0 results.
ITT We post music.

Old Trees - Violent Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q38GP4-GsI
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wtf is this lol

>>4239
vaporwave


>>569
I just recently came across this band while browsing the "anarchist" tag on Bandcamp.

From The Normal Album by Will Wood. I recommend the whole thing TBH, it's very Nietzschean.



 

What do you think about class analysis (especially Marxian and Weberian class analysis)? What do you think about Stirnerite Marxism (not to be confused with ego-communism) and post-Marxism? What do you think about DZ Rowan, Alfredo M. Bonanno, Raoul Vaneigem, George Batalle and Jean Baudrillard? And do you think Marx's populism is stupid? What do you think about the concepts of "class interests," "false consciousness" and "cultural hegemony."
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>>5716
Not really. It's just mainly thought experiments used to make people feel like they're doing something productive


>>5924
If you're willing to say something like this it means you don't know a single thing about science or philosophy and should probably shut your fucking trap.

>scientific analysis
<ideologies
Choose one.

>>5930
Kaheva is KOREAN



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i wish we'd move on from bakunin already

I wish people would actually move on to Bakunin, it seems that people only read God and the State if anything, everything else they know about him is from Marxist slander.

Is that lady Bakunin?



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Personally, I am a Marxist because I want to kill myself. I am a nihilist misanthrope with fascistic tendencies, and I think that working towards a communal and collectivist world is the best way to negate myself. A bullet in the head is an insufficient form of suicide. The thing that keeps me going is that someday I may face a truly greater amount of suffering. I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.

not even the context of that marx passage

okay Euronymous

>>6096
Fascists just don't really get it TBH. I just want to hurt myself.

i kinda get it? i just want to die in a war, get a little statue in a park. somewhere small with lots of shade. maybe with a pond.

>I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.
Well, best way to do that is to spark a class war by killing someone like Musk who has a lot of fans, money and friends like Thiel with ungodly amounts of power.



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