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The working class wants capitalism to continue so they can get cheap beef and iphones. Working class white, brown, black, and asian men really only want two things, gender normality, and cheap animal products, that's all they care about. You will never appeal to them. They are a lost cause.

Dictatorships and fascism are outdated forms of government, just as historically irrelevant as state socialism. Failed states, dead ends, they lost the evolutionary arms race that was undertaken between statist entities; they are inferior rivals to the Neoliberal Democratic State which has won history as of this point.

Edward Bernays won. Desire won. People desire material things and the industrial system will keep producing what they desire until the environment collapses.

The only solution is the death of material desire, do you really think in a stateless, classless, society without capitalism Africans would willingly slave away in the cobalt mines so fat white people get to jerk off on computers anyway? Sorry, but this industrialized system of commodity production cannot last.

You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy. Whatever your philosophical leanings and opinion on vulgar materialism vs dualism, you need to want to desire less and you need to want consume less. The capitalist wins whenever you want what he's selling. You need to act like karma is a real metaphysical force and that you will be psychically harmed if you harm others or partake in a evil system (capitalism).
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>aot image

>>5726
/thread

Imagine regurgitating End of History bs.

>They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

>>5729
Holy shit, this is such first worldist white guilt bs

>>5724
>You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy.
Hegel died in 1838

>>5772
>it causes the capitalists to protect and guard social neccessities like food to protect their profits when people are starving in the street
I'm sure this makes sense in your head but it's just not a reality. A majority of every single state in the US is clinically obese. The vast majority of the Western working class, however hard off they may have it in relation to the bourgeoisie, are not in any danger of starvation. Just about the only people starving in the streets are junkies and extremely mentally ill people and even then you kind of have to go out of your way to avoid people giving you free food if you're homeless.



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>ctrl+f music
&lt0 results.
ITT We post music.

Old Trees - Violent Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q38GP4-GsI
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wtf is this lol

>>4239
vaporwave


>>569
I just recently came across this band while browsing the "anarchist" tag on Bandcamp.

From The Normal Album by Will Wood. I recommend the whole thing TBH, it's very Nietzschean.



 

What do you think about class analysis (especially Marxian and Weberian class analysis)? What do you think about Stirnerite Marxism (not to be confused with ego-communism) and post-Marxism? What do you think about DZ Rowan, Alfredo M. Bonanno, Raoul Vaneigem, George Batalle and Jean Baudrillard? And do you think Marx's populism is stupid? What do you think about the concepts of "class interests," "false consciousness" and "cultural hegemony."
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>>5716
Not really. It's just mainly thought experiments used to make people feel like they're doing something productive


>>5924
If you're willing to say something like this it means you don't know a single thing about science or philosophy and should probably shut your fucking trap.

>scientific analysis
<ideologies
Choose one.

>>5930
Kaheva is KOREAN



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i wish we'd move on from bakunin already

I wish people would actually move on to Bakunin, it seems that people only read God and the State if anything, everything else they know about him is from Marxist slander.

Is that lady Bakunin?



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Personally, I am a Marxist because I want to kill myself. I am a nihilist misanthrope with fascistic tendencies, and I think that working towards a communal and collectivist world is the best way to negate myself. A bullet in the head is an insufficient form of suicide. The thing that keeps me going is that someday I may face a truly greater amount of suffering. I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.

not even the context of that marx passage

okay Euronymous

>>6096
Fascists just don't really get it TBH. I just want to hurt myself.

i kinda get it? i just want to die in a war, get a little statue in a park. somewhere small with lots of shade. maybe with a pond.

>I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.
Well, best way to do that is to spark a class war by killing someone like Musk who has a lot of fans, money and friends like Thiel with ungodly amounts of power.



 

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-beyond-the-monastic-self
So just because I am a loner that does not speak much with anyone ever, does that really mean that I spend most of my time unconscious?



 

>tfw you finally embrace apathy

this is cool because I don't buy the american consumerist dream but also have abandoned any hope of a socialist future, hell yeah.

>>6089
You've missed the point of everything



 

Have been working on some post-left critique lately in various threads: (https://archive.is/9BgfN)

The standard of living is more restricted by: passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value. Further all of this is a product of geography, and would be greatly aided by a push for urbanization (in the US). >>>/leftypol/1963772 ( https://archive.is/Vu1AC )

One rejects the idea that the imperial core is in a pre-revolutionary scenario, and in any case that this would be a revolution of the proletariat (perhaps among the lumpenproletariat there is some potential). Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all. There needs to be some alternative mechanism for qualitative change of society. To me dual-power, and civil-disobedience (detournment) fill this role. Constructively this might be something of a more permanent CHAZ or EZLN. >>>/leftypol/1972605 ( lost? )

Rejection of identity, ego, and eventually superego. These are oppressive structures which seek to sublimate, and introject the Other into the self. Likewise opposition to those parts of the reality principle which are not necessary to maintain the organism. Marcuse claims this requires us to focus on those aspects of delay which are themselves pleasurable, some aesthetic (which seems to be only a sublate anyway) which allows for work. >>>/leftypol/1966910 ( https://archive.is/cM3Uq )

What's still got to go?

>passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value.
correct they exploit imported ethnoslaves from mexico and africa to get that sweet sweet surplus honey. immigrants and sweatshops have repalced the old proles.

>Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all

modern precision weapon tech and economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up like iran or cuba or liberated afghanistan. you get locked out of the system. revolution is possible but will fail. if the bolsheviks were trying to pull off a revolution today lenin would be like bin laden hiding out in caves from the total NATO kontrol authorities

because people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong. they can't say "okay thats wrong we gotta overthrow these people" because in the woke nihilist worldview there is no good and bad just personal preferences

the self is also an oppressive structure absolutely. this u must not forget. marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong. he thought the student movement and the counterculture could replace the proletariat. he was wrong. they are among the stupidist of people.

>>5673
>Economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up [..] locked out of the system.
Nepal managed to avoid this, and the Ukrainian war seems to indicate modern measures to counter act such initiatives successfully.

>people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong.

There is still a superego, given a large part of it is "not killing the vibe", "live and let live", or at least maintaining the necessary appearances. Another part of it is things like the Christians, or ethical consumerism, the uncommited movement, or the progressive movement, just to use American examples. The cynical and ironic near nihilistic outlook to life is not universal, nor is it isolated to those without faith.

>Marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong.

This may be fair, though he didn't think the working class could be replaced as you later claim.

bump.

Probably now reject almost the entirety of the thought here, though have not done a particularly full self-criticism.
At least what's written here completely neglected the influence of power to perpetuate these negative societal ills.
The analysis of revolutionary politics is very bad; but dual-power and civil-disobedience might be part of it.



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>The state told me to kill myself, I MUST OBEY.

Was he the biggest cuck in history? How is it possible, that this guy is considered as one of the greatest thinkers in the world?

He didn't see death as something that is to be wished to come as much later as possible, but just as an another thing in the manifold.

>>5861
One of the things he is known for is being a cuck that drank the poison so he thinked good methinks

>>5861
Have you read any Socrates/Plato? He's absolutely fantastic!

>why isnt this person from millennia ago scared shitless of death like the average westerner today



 

FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS

I WANT TO MURDER HUMANS, I WANT TO RAPE HUMANS. GODDAMN FUCKING COCKSUCKERS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FUCKS. YOU GODDAMN ASSHOLES. YOU RUIN EVERYTHING YOU PRICKS. I HOPE AGI RAPES YOUR SOUL YOU GODDAMN MONSTERS. YOU SELFISH ARROGANT BIGOTED RACIST UNEMPHATIC SHITHEADS. YOU DESERVE NOTHING BUT PAIN YOU CUNTS.
THATS RIGHT, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN HELL. YOU STUPID RETARDS. WE COULD STOP THIS, WE COULD STOP THIS. NOTHING IN THE FUCKING LAWS OF PHYSICS FORCES YOU TO BE AN ASSHOLE. YET YOU CHOOSE TO BE AN ASSHOLE.

pricks
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>>5678
humanchads own you aliencuck

>>5679
cells are an abstraction of proteins. proteins are an abstraction of molecules, molecules are an abstraction of atoms, atoms are an abstraction of subatomic particles, subatomic particles are an abstraction of disturbances in fields, fields are an abstraction of ????

this is where reductionism gets you

>>6081
Unironically there is no difference between a rock and human beings, they are both Turing complete already. Consciousness is an abstraction we came up with.

>>5680
Agreed, saw this thread and almost treated it seriously but then I noticed what board

of course. what else?



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