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>tfw you finally embrace apathy

this is cool because I don't buy the american consumerist dream but also have abandoned any hope of a socialist future, hell yeah.

>>6089
You've missed the point of everything



 

Have been working on some post-left critique lately in various threads: (https://archive.is/9BgfN)

The standard of living is more restricted by: passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value. Further all of this is a product of geography, and would be greatly aided by a push for urbanization (in the US). >>>/leftypol/1963772 ( https://archive.is/Vu1AC )

One rejects the idea that the imperial core is in a pre-revolutionary scenario, and in any case that this would be a revolution of the proletariat (perhaps among the lumpenproletariat there is some potential). Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all. There needs to be some alternative mechanism for qualitative change of society. To me dual-power, and civil-disobedience (detournment) fill this role. Constructively this might be something of a more permanent CHAZ or EZLN. >>>/leftypol/1972605 ( lost? )

Rejection of identity, ego, and eventually superego. These are oppressive structures which seek to sublimate, and introject the Other into the self. Likewise opposition to those parts of the reality principle which are not necessary to maintain the organism. Marcuse claims this requires us to focus on those aspects of delay which are themselves pleasurable, some aesthetic (which seems to be only a sublate anyway) which allows for work. >>>/leftypol/1966910 ( https://archive.is/cM3Uq )

What's still got to go?

>passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value.
correct they exploit imported ethnoslaves from mexico and africa to get that sweet sweet surplus honey. immigrants and sweatshops have repalced the old proles.

>Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all

modern precision weapon tech and economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up like iran or cuba or liberated afghanistan. you get locked out of the system. revolution is possible but will fail. if the bolsheviks were trying to pull off a revolution today lenin would be like bin laden hiding out in caves from the total NATO kontrol authorities

because people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong. they can't say "okay thats wrong we gotta overthrow these people" because in the woke nihilist worldview there is no good and bad just personal preferences

the self is also an oppressive structure absolutely. this u must not forget. marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong. he thought the student movement and the counterculture could replace the proletariat. he was wrong. they are among the stupidist of people.

>>5673
>Economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up [..] locked out of the system.
Nepal managed to avoid this, and the Ukrainian war seems to indicate modern measures to counter act such initiatives successfully.

>people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong.

There is still a superego, given a large part of it is "not killing the vibe", "live and let live", or at least maintaining the necessary appearances. Another part of it is things like the Christians, or ethical consumerism, the uncommited movement, or the progressive movement, just to use American examples. The cynical and ironic near nihilistic outlook to life is not universal, nor is it isolated to those without faith.

>Marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong.

This may be fair, though he didn't think the working class could be replaced as you later claim.

bump.

Probably now reject almost the entirety of the thought here, though have not done a particularly full self-criticism.
At least what's written here completely neglected the influence of power to perpetuate these negative societal ills.
The analysis of revolutionary politics is very bad; but dual-power and civil-disobedience might be part of it.



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>The state told me to kill myself, I MUST OBEY.

Was he the biggest cuck in history? How is it possible, that this guy is considered as one of the greatest thinkers in the world?

He didn't see death as something that is to be wished to come as much later as possible, but just as an another thing in the manifold.

>>5861
One of the things he is known for is being a cuck that drank the poison so he thinked good methinks

>>5861
Have you read any Socrates/Plato? He's absolutely fantastic!

>why isnt this person from millennia ago scared shitless of death like the average westerner today



 

FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS FUCK HUMANS

I WANT TO MURDER HUMANS, I WANT TO RAPE HUMANS. GODDAMN FUCKING COCKSUCKERS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FUCKS. YOU GODDAMN ASSHOLES. YOU RUIN EVERYTHING YOU PRICKS. I HOPE AGI RAPES YOUR SOUL YOU GODDAMN MONSTERS. YOU SELFISH ARROGANT BIGOTED RACIST UNEMPHATIC SHITHEADS. YOU DESERVE NOTHING BUT PAIN YOU CUNTS.
THATS RIGHT, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN HELL. YOU STUPID RETARDS. WE COULD STOP THIS, WE COULD STOP THIS. NOTHING IN THE FUCKING LAWS OF PHYSICS FORCES YOU TO BE AN ASSHOLE. YET YOU CHOOSE TO BE AN ASSHOLE.

pricks
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>>5678
humanchads own you aliencuck

>>5679
cells are an abstraction of proteins. proteins are an abstraction of molecules, molecules are an abstraction of atoms, atoms are an abstraction of subatomic particles, subatomic particles are an abstraction of disturbances in fields, fields are an abstraction of ????

this is where reductionism gets you

>>6081
Unironically there is no difference between a rock and human beings, they are both Turing complete already. Consciousness is an abstraction we came up with.

>>5680
Agreed, saw this thread and almost treated it seriously but then I noticed what board

of course. what else?



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the best thing you can do is join a clandestine vanguard organization where you can sabotage imperialism from within and serve as useful collaborators for liberating forces when the time comes. “Communist” parties in America are either completely irrelevant cults focused on idpol, federal honeypots that collaborate with the Dems, or in the case of CPUSA both, and they will receive the least amount of leniemcy up there with politicians and financial bourgeoisie
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>>5810
he was ratted out by an unreliable henpecked brother and they only had the that connection after the fact

>>5808
>standard prints
What's that

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>>5823
a sex act

>>5800
>>5795
Nobody is organizing anything here; everyone gotta spend their days practicing "solidarity" towards groups that don't care in the slightest about us, and will dump us as soon as it's convinient, if they haven't already done so.
Today's western communists are completely subordinated at the ideological level to foreign reactionary movements. They say that helping them will cause a crisis that will will allow us to have a revolution; but to do that you need to have already created a movement of some sort. Right now we'e just gonna head for fascism.
And with that, no wonder nobody joins the socialist cause if the first thing they're zealously presented with is "do you support this foreign group which has never even lift a finger to help us or you?" Communists here don't actually care about the people and just want to root for foreign hegemons (as long as they aren't western).
It's a nationalist spook but reversed.

>>5857
>foreign hegemons
Such as?



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It's over. The fascists have taken over the US government and are about to implement the same coup across most of Europe. There's no debating these people, there's no rational argument you can present to a fascist. He already have his pre-scripted response ready.
The only thing fascists recognize is force. All we can do is accelerate until the point enough of us realize what needs to be done. All we need is 3% of people to take the decisive action that's necessary to establish our order over theirs. We've moved past the point of democratic solutions. Until we reach the point where YOU reading this have internalized this fact and make peace with the necessary sacrifice you must take, everyone will live under this tyranny.

==DEATH TO FASCISTS
/LEFTYPOL/ ALWAYS ANTIFASCIST==
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>>6063
>because we actually got 45 years of SBZ + DDR after Hitler.
That was due to stalinist victory. the KPD was totally and utterly destroyed and decimated. It was only the few stragglers who found safe haven in the USSR that returned, but most of the cadres of the old guard were straight up liquidated by hitler. I guess, yeah, it was a strategic victory in the long-term, but a mutilated one and not really on the terms that the KPD would have wanted, prostrate to moscow, returning to rule a economically destroyed rubble heap, and then having to pay steep reparations to moscow after the war (which I'm not saying was unfair for moscow to do so, but that's a terrible starting point from which to build a new socialist state)

>>5954
I don't think feds even bother here, they know you'll never do anything real

>>5955
This is exactly what german communists said about hitler, it's time to wake up

ITT: Bernie bros posting their Ls

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putting OP glowing with the power of the sun aside, good comrades should arm themselves, get familiar with guns etc. because you never know when you will need them
THE GUN IS GOOD



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The first and most important understanding all contemporary communists must have is that climate change IS our ally!

And no, NOT because of anything nonsensical like it will increase awareness of the contradictions because they won’t. The human race will not ever overcome false consciousness. The average human is a literal illiterate moron, a subhuman at its core, the proletariat doesn’t exist as a class as every living prole is drowning deep in petit bourgeois consciousness. The absolute dream of most proles is to murder and enslave the majority of their own class. Look at this comment, this is the furthest proles will ever get, they will admit capitalism makes life hellish, and then reject communism anyway, acknowledging Capital must continue its rampant drive, with a few partial tweaks

The proletariat is a pathetic, vile, barely human mass; worthy as such of Marx’s lowly appraisal of the corpulent peasant masses of France; the proletariat is not capable of anything, not even organizing its own thoughts let alone anything else, communism is fully impossible and the proletariat will end when they tear each other’s throats out to make sure Zuck and the rest can escape to their doomsday bunkers.
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>>5915
Well, I find it impossible to explain how time and time again people living even in the most repulsive shitholes keep falling for reactionary sentiment going against their own interests without employing at least some psychoanalysis. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a thirdie.

>>5915
>Tfw MLroach can’t explain why most proles are explicit anticommunists by their own retarded Catholic logic

>>5920
Reality doesn't change. Sociology might though

>>5921
And you claim to be against anti-intellectualism

>>5922
elaborate

>>5885
I don't understand why lefties are so allergic to exploiting nationalist sentiments for their own gain



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Endless threads asking the same question "how do we adapt Marxism-Leninism to the material conditions of the US", endless parties of endless varieties, since Browder, have asked this same question and there STILL hasn't come a sufficient answer. The typical conclusion these Americanized communists find is to accept the most parliamentarian, social democratic, and vulgar nationalist drivel as the proper way forward to appeal to the American people (e.g. the ACP). Such a conclusion is an insult to the American people and the narrow path to Socialism. The truth is that Communism has not worked to arise ANY amount of popular support among the American people for the last 108 years since the idea came upon the shores in 1917, that should be enough to definitively say the American people simply do not want communism.

This is all not to say that the vast majority of Americans are somehow uniquely reactionary, as some retarded Sakaists would claim, it is simply to say that Communism is not the correct path to anything resembling Socialism in the US. On the other hand there is an ideology that WAS shown to arise mass popular support, that DID provoke the American people to take coordinated action against the Capitalist regime, that DID work for decades prior to its supplanting by Marxism-Leninism among the radical left, a supplantation that directly coincides with the decline of the left in general in America. Syndicalism, particularly the Revolutionary Syndicalism espoused by the IWW, a revolutionary organization and ideology whose success in this country has never been replicated by any party since.
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>>5932
>he doesn’t know about the DSA

>>5932
>there will never be an American Communism
sucks because i would love to see america impoverished beyond recognition

Steinbeck Communism and FDRism is the only way for the American left.

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>>5932
Could the jannies stop moving any non-ML thread they don't like to dead? It doesn't make any sense, what about my post had anything to do with post-leftism? What about it even had to do with Anarchism? Multipolarists who actually ARE not leftists get to make threads that stay up but this gets moved?

Didn't we just have a poll saying mods should be less overbearing.

>>5932
>since the idea came upon the shores in 1917
Americans were aware of Communism before 1917.
>>5942
Idiot.



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The working class wants capitalism to continue so they can get cheap beef and iphones. Working class white, brown, black, and asian men really only want two things, gender normality, and cheap animal products, that's all they care about. You will never appeal to them. They are a lost cause.

Dictatorships and fascism are outdated forms of government, just as historically irrelevant as state socialism. Failed states, dead ends, they lost the evolutionary arms race that was undertaken between statist entities; they are inferior rivals to the Neoliberal Democratic State which has won history as of this point.

Edward Bernays won. Desire won. People desire material things and the industrial system will keep producing what they desire until the environment collapses.

The only solution is the death of material desire, do you really think in a stateless, classless, society without capitalism Africans would willingly slave away in the cobalt mines so fat white people get to jerk off on computers anyway? Sorry, but this industrialized system of commodity production cannot last.

You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy. Whatever your philosophical leanings and opinion on vulgar materialism vs dualism, you need to want to desire less and you need to want consume less. The capitalist wins whenever you want what he's selling. You need to act like karma is a real metaphysical force and that you will be psychically harmed if you harm others or partake in a evil system (capitalism).
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>>5729
Spicy neoliberal

>aot image

>>5726
/thread

Imagine regurgitating End of History bs.

>They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

>>5729
Holy shit, this is such first worldist white guilt bs

>>5724
>You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy.
Hegel died in 1838



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But why come so many things that look good always become appropriated by retarded normies at that? It's like originality is either bound to be resented or appropriated. People are fucking garbage.
And the worst part is that people who claim to be on my side don't like the same aesthetic I do. They are incapable of originality.

>>5853
I was an adolescent once too. Arrogant moron, your taste is as trash as everyone else's.

>>5854
You're just affirming what I wrote.

>>5855
your just affirming what iwrote

>>5854
Actually, it's adults who speak like this and accuse the youth of ruining everything.

>>5853
Typical neo-boomer mentality



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