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So you think you are a worthless NEET? Let's see what uncle Ted has to say:
>The people whose behavior is fairly well under the control of the system are those of the type that might be called “bourgeois.” But there are growing numbers of people who in one way or another are rebels against the system: welfare leeches, youth gangs, cultists, satanists, Nazis, radical environmentalists, militia-men, etc.

NEETs are rebelling against the system! We are part of the rebellion! Ted is based!!!
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-society-and-its-future
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Ted on Marx:

>Many writers, beginning with Karl Marx, have noted the fundamental importance of technology in determining the course of society’s development. In effect, they have recognized that it is technology that rules society, not the other way around.


https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-forward-to-technological-slavery

>>5422
That is right, just like bureaucracy
"The bureaucracy is a circle from which no one can escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge."
And
"Technology discloses man's mode of dealing with Nature, the process of production by which he sustains his life, and thereby also lays bare the mode of formation of his social relations, and of the mental conceptions that flow from them."

Ok, here is my take on Ted K. :
His ideology and his actions are just his personal way to cope with existence. You read it in his manifesto, he dedicated an entire section to "surrogate activities". In his view, these activities are fake and therefore bad. But since there is no truth and no meaning in existence anyway, there can't be fake activities. ANY KIND of activity is a surrogate activity. So no matter what you do, it doesn't matter in the end. You will die and the universe will also die someday. He did the same thing we all do: He created his ideology purely out of psychological needs in order to cope with existence! Nihilism says: There is no goal. Many people don't want to accept this and so they just create their own goals/meaning. For some people it is "god", for others "socialism", "community" etc. and for Ted K, he created his primitivist ideology. Or in other words:
Pomni: So, our entire existence here is just…LARPing?
Nietzsche (chad face): Yes.

based on what?

>>5245
Ted wasn't an anprim. We was only against Industrial Society. Anprims are against both Industrial and Agricultural society.



 

Genuine question from a none communist/anarchist.
first, I sympathaise with those two ideas, I really do. I have a burning passionate hatred for all the negative aspects of humanity, from greed to sadism.
I'm not very well read on anarchism or communism (the likes of marx and even hegel never interested me), so I'm mostly going by personal observation. from what I understand communists believe that money (capitalism) corrupts the human being and that by removing the cultural meme of capitalism, communism would florish. at least in simple terms, correct?

whenever I engage in chatter about this topic, eventually it comes down to human nature. almost all far leftists believe some form of the blank-slate. I don't. I never understood why this idea is taken seriously at all. isn't it obvious that a lot of human bias is hardwired into us from birth rather than influnced by enviornent?
especially the more basal desires and behaviours like greed? do you really believe that money is what corrupts people rather than that they're born greedy? and if you're a communist/anarchist that doesn't blieve in the blankslate, how do justify what you believe?
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>>5662
>>5663
I think you ought to take your meds.

>There were members of the commoners and capitalists who never wanted "bourgeois values",

They're irrelevant. Why was the French revolution able to abolish feudalism? Because French society had reached a point where decaying feudal relations were a barrier to the futher development of society, which could only take place with the destruction of these relations.

HUEMON NATUR is not real lol, finds proofs(you cant). No one goes around pointingat oak trees and salmon like "every individual of this organism is imbued to be ontologically evil and greedy for the rest of time" or "yeah every southern red oak on earth is has a natural tendency towards greed and theres just nothing we can do about it" This is basically textbook idealism where you pull some random philosophical concept out of your ass and say the all of material reality is actually controlled by this random ass ideal(i.e. mind over matter).


Humans are animals in material world there are no inherent set of fixed morals and ethics that come with it, these "basal desires" you speak of are just primate behavior and no one goes around saying every baboon on earth is a good or bad person. Libs that invoke my muh human nature might as well invoke the soul or actual fucking magic. Not to mention 9 times of 10 the human nature arguement just devolves in cringey ass misanthropy "everyone is evil wahwawah we can never have anyhting good happen wahwahwah" like if thats the case just kys fr

HUEMON NATUR is not real lol, finds proofs(you cant). No one goes around pointingat oak trees and salmon like "every individual of this organism is imbued to be ontologically evil and greedy for the rest of time" or "yeah every southern red oak on earth is has a natural tendency towards greed and theres just nothing we can do about it" This is basically textbook idealism where you pull some random philosophical concept out of your ass and say the all of material reality is actually controlled by this random ass ideal(i.e. mind over matter).


Humans are animals in material world there are no inherent set of fixed morals and ethics that come with it, these "basal desires" you speak of are just primate behavior and no one goes around saying every baboon on earth is a good or bad person. Libs that invoke my muh human nature might as well invoke the soul or actual fucking magic. Not to mention 9 times of 10 the human nature arguement just devolves in cringey ass misanthropy "everyone is evil wahwawah we can never have anyhting good happen wahwahwah" like if thats the case just kys fr

You'd think a board for people against moralism and eternal values would be less retarded.

>>5664
Feudalism ended because a new ruling clique were kicking out those who didn't get in the big club, not because of "abstract social forces" that exist in a grand narrative. This was understood at the time. By destroying the feudal order, the Assembly was saying "we're in charge, not these assholes" - and they were also not too happy that the peasants took matters into their own hands, basically because they could and the Jacobins / agentur gave them the signal that doing so wouldn't really be punished as it would be any other time.

But really, "feudalism ended" a long time ago, because it was kept alive by selling venal office to the sort of people who decided they could just make a republic and vote themselves free money basically. That's what they always do, and it didn't take long for the Jacobins to do it with the assignot, and then set up a revolutionary dictatorship to try and keep it together. I think you should also figure out from that example by the way - revolutionary dictatorships are a terrible idea. That's why Marx recommended them - to derail the socialists and make sure they would fail and be as unpleasant as possible, until it was time to really shit up humanity with his next stunt.



 

>be born
>parents fuck you up
>unable to grow into an independent adult due to fuck up
>society demands you pull yourself by your bootsraps
what the fuck is this bullshit? no wonder there are so many mass shooters out there.

>do not mean to fuck you up
lol if only

>>5637
lol grim



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Ahem

Marxism has no reality at all in the West. Nearly all self-proclaimed Marxists are frauds who haven’t even read Marx, let alone understand him. They use the label Marxism, despite knowing nothing about it, as a pseudo-intellectual obfuscation for their liberal ideology. To begin, what is Marxism? Marxism is not a theory of equality. It is not a diagnosis of injustice, nor is it a specific prescription of how to remedy society’s ills. Marxism is a method for acquiring knowledge about the laws governing the historical development of societies. Marxism thus regards itself as a type of science. Most people think of science as something purely descriptive. But the reason Marx’s contemporaries called him Prometheus is because he bequeathed a science that did not just describe reality, but participated in its development. This makes Marxism totally contrary to modern science. Modern science places knowledge above its object. To know, means to strip something naked to consciousness and turn it into a utility for the knowing subject. He who knows an object, can control, master, and alter an object. But the ‘object’ known by Marxism is none other than human society itself. And the paradox lies in the obvious fact that society is not just an object, but also a subject. Marxists (subjects) are themselves part of the very object they make knowable. To complicate matters further, Marx does not claim knowledge of society alone can transform society. Instead, he proves that society is already coming to know and transform itself materially in the form of the then growing proletarian class. Most people think Marx is ‘Promethean’ because he wanted his ideas popularized. But the REAL reason was because he had the courage of declaring the return of knowledge back to being itself, and human beings in particular. He created a science that ceased to be above its object. For Marx, the knowledge of historical laws arrived at by consciousness, was being reflected in history itself. Knowledge of humanity does not dominate humanity, but reveals that it was there, and part of it all along. “Communism is the riddle of history solved.” Why the need for class consciousness? This is where people misunderstand Leninism as an attempt to turn politics and state power into a tool for realizing some goal of the mind. In reality, the role of Marxists lies in spreading the ‘good news’ to the despairing proletariat. Class consciousness, the so-called ‘vanguard party,’ and the CommunPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>5626
>>5628
>>5630
Sorry, I'm not terminally online and I only visit leftypol once in a blue moon, what is the immediate hostility to 'infrared' and whoever 'haz' is?

>>5627
I do think the critique of Western academic Marxism (the divergence into neo-kantian and spinozist strains) is especially cogent and resonates with my own experiences in academia (and particularly with Deleuzians). The rest of the Dugin shit I'm not sure I can get behind.

>>5632
>I'm not terminally online
then the fact that you don't know should be a good enough hint

Do mods just move threads they don't like to /dead/? What does this have to do with post-left anarchism?

>>5634
Yes they do. Anything that's too pessimistic/realistic is a 'psyop' that has to be deleted or moved to here.

>>5634
this thread was made in /dead/ believe it or not



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Eighty eight years of the day Trotsky directed the suppression of the anarchist uprising in Krondstadt, a group of bandits scaled the walls of his former house in Mexico City during the late hours at night. We broke the lock on his mausoleum and we expropriate the content inside it: a silver large vase that bears the inscription of his name, wrapped in the red scarf that he carried around the neck, containing the ashes of the corpse inside. We replace with care the lock in the monument with a reproduction that was similar in the appearance and escaped into the night.

The vase along with its content then was taken far away to a place where the vase was discarded and the content (a combination of ash and bone) were baked in cookies. These cookies then were sent, along with a letter that explains our actions, to newspapers, to organizations of Trotskyists, and to the groups of anarchist around the world.

While we will not repeat everything of our full letter, briefly we propose to give new light to the idea that history does not end with the past and still a small group of bandits can give new direction to fights thought long to be frozen in the time. We want to expand the fight to include dead objects of the past that hold hostage us in the present.

Nevertheless, if Trotsky is right about the history, we do not determine anything, but we are only characters whose actions were written in the revolution of October. As was his destiny, coincidentally, to come to be a cookie.

The ones that receive these cookies have a decision. Through time, the act to consume enemies have been seen as a way to absorb their powers. On the other hand, consuming the body and the blood of the dead person as a sacrament have also been a form of worship. We would want to indicate that, at any rate, the result is always shit.

For those a little delicate, we have tried them, and although they be a little sandy, they are delicious. The green dots, by the way, they are just candies.

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It is no exaggeration to say the reason we are heading towards catastrophe and possible extinction is due to losing the propaganda war.

Its not that the system is so oppressive that people cant rebel. Police violence. Threat of homelessness and hunger. Rent. Fear. People can overcome all of this and more. History has shown this. Information is where the true battle takes place.

The reason the revolution does not happen is because the masses are severely brainwashed. Most people believe Capitalism is natural and unavoidable. That humans are inherently evil. And thus a better society is impossible.
Schools and media have perfectly done their job.

Deprograming takes too much individual, conscious effort and time to pretend to reeducate the masses. I can not see the way out of this bros
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>>5583
>The years will pass, and we'll get to work producing more babies than ever before
It's so cool how literally every world leader views their populace as nothing more than cattle

>>5583
>Was it "too late" when the savagery of WW1 was killing people in the millions?
Yes, unironically. WW1 broke the back of international solidarity and ushered in fascism, and genocided the mobilized working classes, causing leftism to be unprepared to capitalize on the great crisis in capitalism (the depression). we would be travelling to alpha centauri today if WW1 didn't happen with leftist collaboration. all we got was some shitty rump states that later collapsed.

>>5598
WW1 revealed to all that none of these people making promises were what they purported to be, and the people were left with no one. That was the purpose of all of this - to destroy any concept of democracy, what little existed, because they hated the people and wanted to subsume them in some cockamamie system or another. It was inmposed by force, by insinuation, and by the vices of the human race, which really were the human spirit. The aspiration for it to be different was always a faint one, made possible because people would for the first time really have any way to speak of the rest of the world. For most of history, people don't move that far from where they are born, and don't have much to do with anyone outside of that world. States are weak and have little interest in the working class, and this was assumed when they were shoved into cities and made to starve by this callosu and Satanic order.

What was carried out privately and at a local arena became the civic cult of modernity, which was made completely alien by insinuation to serve aristocracy - to restore serfdom and the filthiest impulses of Germanic culture and the vices of the human race generally.

Germany wasn't defeated enough, basically. But, it will be defeated utterly, its way of life eliminated and kept in a museum of degenerate art where it belongs. That would then start the process of allowing this society to heal, if its excesses can be described as what they were, and no more excuses regarding this are tolerated. When you go down that rabbit hole, history makes a lot more sense. These stupid people have this completely undeserved reputation and insist that this time their plans will totally work and can't lose. It's the same song and dance since the cope of 1914.

That won't solve our problems, of course. I doubt humans have it in them to want this situation to be different in the public. Too many of them allowed this to go on in ways that were wholly unnecessary and not prompted by anyone, except an impulse of aristocracy that humasn learned by the example - the only example we are allowed to see of what humans can be.

Anywhere there is a hint of sentiment other than the thrill of torture, it is mocked, made unseemly, and declared heretical against the spirit of the human race. The human spirit is a monstrosity and history has judged.



 

I think Alex Dugin is based. Not because of his tradorth-eurasianism mumbo jumbo. This is just his storefront truth to appeal to normies. Deep in his heart he is a nihilist and he knows there is no universal truth. He knows, that you can freely choose your truth how you wish. I absolutely love this interview and I've listened to it multiple times. Our existence is just larping.
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=GGunRKWtWBs&listen=1

>>5515
The best american that ever existed. Hunanity was not read for him, and the american people betrayed their savior, Alex Dugin. They shall be punished in the last day of all days for their sin.



 

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>>5438
whta mod?

>>5438
He looks so old. The real Stirner died at 50 of a bug bite

>>5439
no clue, i copy pasted from here
>>>/games/35828

>>5427
That was me, kind of. I was a hardcore libertarian in my teens, largely but not entirely influenced by Ayn Rand. I was interested in Stirner because I knew he was an egoist like Rand, and on reading him, I came to realize that I was looking at things from the wrong direction.



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ITT: post PRAXIS
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What direct action can be done from the comfort of my home? I can't go out because of the virus.

>>940
learn programming and create viruses that attack the digital communication of capitalist corporations and bourgeoi states


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hehe ha

>>735
Big pp.



 

I think the left is too nice, and doesn't feature enough comic sadism and spite.
I genuinely have a deep desire to be hurt and controlled, and to hurt and control others.
I think such self-defeating desires are as legitimate as any others, and cannot be reduced to madness or ideology.
I do think I should probably just pay for a dom when I save up enough neetbux.
Or maybe ERP online.
But I'm kind of a coward though.
Anyhow, that's the biggest reason why I don't like the left.
>inb4 but if you don't like the left then why are you a leftist
Easy, I don't like myself either.
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>>5212
It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.

>>5213
>It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.
Well, I technically have nothing against it, but as Stirner said, by embracing one drive you repress many others. Embracing suffering isn't embracing the totality of life.

holy fuck put /dead/ back in the crypt agin and get it off the overboard. fucking hell.

>>5430
This thread was moved here from /leftypol/. It's an attempt by the mods to destroy /dead/.

>>5432
What is /dead/ may never die



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