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Negative Proletarianism - To End Capitalism Anonymous 19-09-25 01:07:24 No.6179[Reply]

Fuck the workers, they ruined the movement. The workers are the real class collaborators and traitors. Long Live the international bourgeoisie making things worse so that the workers may realize how much they are being fucked slowly but surely. WHO ALLOWS CAPITALISM? WHO HAS NOT YET REVOLTED? WHO HAS NOT YET DONE A REVOLUTION? THE FILTHY WORKERS. So they are the client. Capitalism benefits the workers masochism and not the bourgeoisie. If the workers weren't retarded masochists they would have done away with it already.
YES I DID IT. I SOLVED CAPITALISM. BE BOURGEOISIE NOT A WORKER. THE BOURGEOISIE HOLD THE INSTRUMENTS OF THE STATE AND CONTROL THE MODE OF PRODUCTION, SI SI SI IL DUCE, SI SI SI SI, ᴉuᴉlossnW was right you didn't understand his genius ya'll.

SO, citizens of left of /pol/ I have created a new current to end capital - negative proletarianism. Deng had it right but stopped because he cares about the workers, but the workers are evil, they don't start the revolution - they benefit from capital exploiting them because they are masochist and ignorant. The bourgeoisie may be ignorant but they have the means to end capital. Citizens of left of /pol/ accumulate CAPITAL and join the world market economy so we can bond together and bring about the end of class society FROM ABOVE.

JOIN THE ELITE, join SOROS, join the WEF. DO IT. This is what ze new world order meant. THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS. This is like negative utilitarianism or some shit where this one crazy guy said that life is bad because of suffering so like killing life reduces suffering I forgot what the premise was but thats basically on the correct track minus the economic analysis - you see the real analysis is that things are the opposite of what they seem SO the bourgeoisie are the guys who can make change but are exploited by the workers to stagnate because the workers are the masses and reactionary and they will get really dumb and angry if the bourgeoisie actually have the interest to end capitalism. One poster said that the biggest lie is that capitalism benefits the bourgeoisie - when capitalism is obviously self destructive. So petite-bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie must unite to end capitalism and fend off against the reactionary workers who are not yet ready for communism. Il Duce you devious schemer I knew you had it in you, you great man, they hated you because they loved you.

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Anonymous 19-09-25 03:39:57 No.6223

>>6179
YOU are the proletariat bitch, if you hate the proletariat so much then you should kill yourself

HMM WHICH IS MORE LIKELY….?

>rich people use their money and power to keep their position in society through propaganda etc.

<um ackshually the capitalists are the real communists and true communists should really just do capitalism but edgy and explicitly misanthropic.

this site is literally nothing but retards, including me for bothering to engage with such obvious bait

Anonymous 19-09-25 04:13:43 No.6224

>>6223
Propaganda isn’t a sufficient explanation for a lack of action on the part of the proletariat, the fact is that the proletariat has no room to move or act in this system that doesn’t reify it.

Anonymous 19-09-25 13:21:49 No.6225

>>6224
>isn’t a sufficient explanation
why not ?

Anonymous 20-09-25 20:00:20 No.6229

You only see the half truth that the proletariat is reactionary, but mistaking that the petit bourgeoisie and capitalists have revolutionary potential, that's down right wrong, because of their class positions, they cannot remove all of their limitations in their worldviews, unless they become protelariat themselves or are among elite of elites.

The proletariat is reactionary, right, that's why the USSR collapsed and reverted back to some capitalism. However, due to your class origin, you are blinded to the fact that the proletariat is also progressive. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO TYPE OF PROLETARIATS. THE NEW AND THE OLD

The old proletariat class, having been content with living without property for so long, becomes happy with it and doesn't complain. They're truly want a happy life, in balance with nature. They're truly the progressive class of the future. Minimalist lifestyle of our modern 21th century, the lying flat people, and most Soviet citizens of 20th century are clearly example. YOUR CLAIM of them being suicidal is plainly wrong, because all of these people just want to live a simple, honest life.

But the NEW proletariat class is the true problem. Yes, people like you! They're truly suicidal, because many of them are petit-bourgeoisie that falling into ranks of proletariat, they displayed the suicidal tendency of wanting BEING IN CONTROL, AND ORDERED SOCIETY. But for true progressive, that's only the mean, not the true purpose. What is the main difference between Stalin and Hitler, Socialism and Nazism? It's exactly that, Stalin must force a rigid ordered society because ultimately his goal is to let people live a happy life, when people lives are better, then all that rigid order can be removed (he's really struggling to that before his dead, for example, removing the Politburo as a group standing higher than Central Committee, a relic from hard times of early revolution). While for Hitler, he only gave Germans better lives just for stablizing the order, making a strong country. And why I'm calling it suicidal, because that was the end of both Hitler and ᴉuᴉlossnW, trying too hard to force an order, lmao.

Another kind of NEW proles are from the capitalist ranks, the CEOs, the managers, and nomenklatura, they all can be called the labour aristocracy, the elite proletariat. Yes, it's true that they are experts of managing the new economy of mankind, but because the spectre of the past, they all have the tendency to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Anonymous 21-09-25 20:39:07 No.6230

>>6179
Of the 6th congress of the CPC, 14 of the 22 working class activists defected to the KMT later on. I am… noticinga… patternn n …

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Comrade 21-12-20 05:26:00 No.338[Reply]

N1x aka nyxland is a massive nigger and/or faggot

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Anonymous 02-08-25 22:40:11 No.6139

Bump for the N word

Anonymous 02-08-25 22:40:43 No.6140

>>6139
Don't delete this thread, its history, look at the N word man

Anonymous 02-08-25 23:19:18 No.6142

She's fun tho I like her posts on fedi.

Anonymous 03-08-25 08:16:47 No.6143

>>6142
She's like a grandmother to us.

Anonymous 19-09-25 15:34:38 No.6226

>>6140
it's a relic

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Anonymous 22-11-24 18:28:12 No.5724[Reply]

The working class wants capitalism to continue so they can get cheap beef and iphones. Working class white, brown, black, and asian men really only want two things, gender normality, and cheap animal products, that's all they care about. You will never appeal to them. They are a lost cause.

Dictatorships and fascism are outdated forms of government, just as historically irrelevant as state socialism. Failed states, dead ends, they lost the evolutionary arms race that was undertaken between statist entities; they are inferior rivals to the Neoliberal Democratic State which has won history as of this point.

Edward Bernays won. Desire won. People desire material things and the industrial system will keep producing what they desire until the environment collapses.

The only solution is the death of material desire, do you really think in a stateless, classless, society without capitalism Africans would willingly slave away in the cobalt mines so fat white people get to jerk off on computers anyway? Sorry, but this industrialized system of commodity production cannot last.

You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy. Whatever your philosophical leanings and opinion on vulgar materialism vs dualism, you need to want to desire less and you need to want consume less. The capitalist wins whenever you want what he's selling. You need to act like karma is a real metaphysical force and that you will be psychically harmed if you harm others or partake in a evil system (capitalism).

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Anonymous 24-11-24 09:49:10 No.5790

>aot image

Anonymous 12-12-24 17:56:15 No.5837

>>5726
/thread

Imagine regurgitating End of History bs.

>They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

Anonymous 12-12-24 17:57:55 No.5838

>>5729
Holy shit, this is such first worldist white guilt bs

Anonymous 31-01-25 05:24:18 No.5931

>>5724
>You people need secular and westernized Buddhist philosophy.
Hegel died in 1838

Anonymous 18-09-25 22:17:01 No.6178

>>5772
>it causes the capitalists to protect and guard social neccessities like food to protect their profits when people are starving in the street
I'm sure this makes sense in your head but it's just not a reality. A majority of every single state in the US is clinically obese. The vast majority of the Western working class, however hard off they may have it in relation to the bourgeoisie, are not in any danger of starvation. Just about the only people starving in the streets are junkies and extremely mentally ill people and even then you kind of have to go out of your way to avoid people giving you free food if you're homeless.

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Comrade 21-12-20 05:26:16 No.548[Reply]

>ctrl+f music
&lt0 results.
ITT We post music.

Old Trees - Violent Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q38GP4-GsI

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Anonymous 22-07-23 22:07:56 No.4239

wtf is this lol

Anonymous 30-07-23 11:40:44 No.4244

>>4239
vaporwave

Princess Dusk - Mausoleum Adventure 2 Anonymous 24-12-23 14:13:40 No.4371

Anonymous 28-06-25 09:20:19 No.6122

>>569
I just recently came across this band while browsing the "anarchist" tag on Bandcamp.

Anonymous 28-06-25 17:16:23 No.6124

From The Normal Album by Will Wood. I recommend the whole thing TBH, it's very Nietzschean.

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Class analysis and post-Marxism Glownonymous 26-10-24 20:15:19 No.5682[Reply]

What do you think about class analysis (especially Marxian and Weberian class analysis)? What do you think about Stirnerite Marxism (not to be confused with ego-communism) and post-Marxism? What do you think about DZ Rowan, Alfredo M. Bonanno, Raoul Vaneigem, George Batalle and Jean Baudrillard? And do you think Marx's populism is stupid? What do you think about the concepts of "class interests," "false consciousness" and "cultural hegemony."

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Anonymous 21-01-25 20:57:04 No.5924

>>5716
Not really. It's just mainly thought experiments used to make people feel like they're doing something productive

Anonymous 21-01-25 23:38:20 No.5930

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Anonymous 13-05-25 18:35:57 No.6110

>>5924
If you're willing to say something like this it means you don't know a single thing about science or philosophy and should probably shut your fucking trap.

Anonymous 13-05-25 18:38:12 No.6111

>scientific analysis
<ideologies
Choose one.

Glownonymous 13-05-25 18:42:34 No.6112

>>5930
Kaheva is KOREAN

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Anonymous 28-06-23 13:27:56 No.4149[Reply]

i wish we'd move on from bakunin already

Anonymous 28-06-23 17:34:40 No.4172

I wish people would actually move on to Bakunin, it seems that people only read God and the State if anything, everything else they know about him is from Marxist slander.

Anonymous 09-05-25 21:49:23 No.6106

Is that lady Bakunin?

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Anonymous 23-02-25 05:31:15 No.5950[Reply]

Personally, I am a Marxist because I want to kill myself. I am a nihilist misanthrope with fascistic tendencies, and I think that working towards a communal and collectivist world is the best way to negate myself. A bullet in the head is an insufficient form of suicide. The thing that keeps me going is that someday I may face a truly greater amount of suffering. I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.

Anonymous 23-02-25 07:15:35 No.5951

not even the context of that marx passage

Anonymous 03-05-25 17:38:08 No.6096

okay Euronymous

Anonymous 06-05-25 02:09:03 No.6099

>>6096
Fascists just don't really get it TBH. I just want to hurt myself.

Anonymous 06-05-25 02:17:04 No.6100

i kinda get it? i just want to die in a war, get a little statue in a park. somewhere small with lots of shade. maybe with a pond.

Anonymous 08-07-25 01:34:01 No.6126

>I despise others and I think I would really detest seeing a happier and better world.
Well, best way to do that is to spark a class war by killing someone like Musk who has a lot of fans, money and friends like Thiel with ungodly amounts of power.

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Anonymous 05-05-25 19:46:47 No.6098[Reply]

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-beyond-the-monastic-self
So just because I am a loner that does not speak much with anyone ever, does that really mean that I spend most of my time unconscious?

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Anonymous 29-04-25 01:11:08 No.6089[Reply]

>tfw you finally embrace apathy

this is cool because I don't buy the american consumerist dream but also have abandoned any hope of a socialist future, hell yeah.

Anonymous 04-05-25 07:14:02 No.6097

>>6089
You've missed the point of everything

Party What has to Go? Anonymous 16-09-24 14:58:55 No.5672[Reply]

Have been working on some post-left critique lately in various threads: (https://archive.is/9BgfN)

The standard of living is more restricted by: passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value. Further all of this is a product of geography, and would be greatly aided by a push for urbanization (in the US). >>>/leftypol/1963772 ( https://archive.is/Vu1AC )

One rejects the idea that the imperial core is in a pre-revolutionary scenario, and in any case that this would be a revolution of the proletariat (perhaps among the lumpenproletariat there is some potential). Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all. There needs to be some alternative mechanism for qualitative change of society. To me dual-power, and civil-disobedience (detournment) fill this role. Constructively this might be something of a more permanent CHAZ or EZLN. >>>/leftypol/1972605 ( lost? )

Rejection of identity, ego, and eventually superego. These are oppressive structures which seek to sublimate, and introject the Other into the self. Likewise opposition to those parts of the reality principle which are not necessary to maintain the organism. Marcuse claims this requires us to focus on those aspects of delay which are themselves pleasurable, some aesthetic (which seems to be only a sublate anyway) which allows for work. >>>/leftypol/1966910 ( https://archive.is/cM3Uq )

What's still got to go?

Lolitron 16-09-24 15:44:31 No.5673

>passive spectator lives, lack of independent thought (via propaganda), disintegration of community and family, and unhealthy eating patterns, etc. than by extraction of surplus value.
correct they exploit imported ethnoslaves from mexico and africa to get that sweet sweet surplus honey. immigrants and sweatshops have repalced the old proles.

>Revolution will occur in the periphery or not at all
modern precision weapon tech and economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up like iran or cuba or liberated afghanistan. you get locked out of the system. revolution is possible but will fail. if the bolsheviks were trying to pull off a revolution today lenin would be like bin laden hiding out in caves from the total NATO kontrol authorities

because people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong. they can't say "okay thats wrong we gotta overthrow these people" because in the woke nihilist worldview there is no good and bad just personal preferences

the self is also an oppressive structure absolutely. this u must not forget. marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong. he thought the student movement and the counterculture could replace the proletariat. he was wrong. they are among the stupidist of people.

Anonymous 23-09-24 16:45:37 No.5674

>>5673
>Economic warfare techniques mean any revolution will end up [..] locked out of the system.
Nepal managed to avoid this, and the Ukrainian war seems to indicate modern measures to counter act such initiatives successfully.

>people are now moral relativists there is no way first worldies can pull off a revolution because they have no way of knowing whats right and wrong.
There is still a superego, given a large part of it is "not killing the vibe", "live and let live", or at least maintaining the necessary appearances. Another part of it is things like the Christians, or ethical consumerism, the uncommited movement, or the progressive movement, just to use American examples. The cynical and ironic near nihilistic outlook to life is not universal, nor is it isolated to those without faith.

>Marcuses assessments are broadly correct but wrong.
This may be fair, though he didn't think the working class could be replaced as you later claim.

Anonymous 25-11-24 19:51:32 No.5791

bump.

Anonymous 20-04-25 23:15:07 No.6088

Probably now reject almost the entirety of the thought here, though have not done a particularly full self-criticism.
At least what's written here completely neglected the influence of power to perpetuate these negative societal ills.
The analysis of revolutionary politics is very bad; but dual-power and civil-disobedience might be part of it.

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