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 No.1430[Reply]

Is the punctuation in The Unique and Its Property typical for German texts from its era? It makes me feel like it was written to be read aloud.
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 No.1538

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>>1537
hier, hab auch quelle

 No.1539

I asked because some people seem to be fixated on the fixed idea even though to me it does not seem to be the best term to describe a spook. Many seem to think that it means that the idea itself is fixed or unchanging, which is misleading. First of all, ideas are obviously changing all the time. If you attack the spooks of the priestly person they will start inventing all kinds of bullshit to defend their delusion. The idea might change in all kind of ways but if it is not destroyed, they will still have a fixed idea. Second, it implies that a willingness to change your mind is a possible way of escape. But weak conviction is not ownness. Changing your clothes every day does not make you a nudist. For whatever it's worth, I think Stirner would agree. Below are some quotes from the Spook book for an appeal to authority. In Art and Religion he describes religious thinking as "Understanding", which in Hegelian terms apparently means that it can only think about its object, but never beyond it. Stirner describes it as an obsession (without actually using the word), something that captures thought and does not let it go. However, Understanding consumes its object, and ceases to be as soon as it is understood. Therefore the object has to be constantly renewed, to preserve the mystery that fuels the obsession.

> So if criticism says: You are only human when you are restlessly criticizing and dissolving! Then we say: I am human in any case, and I am I as well; therefore I only want to take care to secure my property to myself, and to secure it, I continually take it back into myself, destroy in it every movement toward independence, and consume it before it can fix itself and become a “fixed idea” or an “obsession.”


> The good, returning under a thousand names and forms, always remained the premise, remained the dogmatic fixed point for this criticism, remained the—fixed idea.


> The idea of right is originally my idea, or it has its origin in me. But if it has sprung out of me, when the “Word” is out, then it has “become flesh,” a fixed idea. Now I no longer get away from the idea; whichever way I turn, it stands before me. So human beings have not again become masters of the idea “right,” which they themselves created: the creature is running away with them.

 No.2022

>>1452
It's called character development

 No.2602

bump

 No.2605

>>1534
>that that in german 'fixe Idee' also is a compliment for a good idea (which he probably uses ironicly)
he doesn't use it ironicly 'fixe Idee' always had a negative connotation it's an Idea which was developed very in a short period of time (fix) and therefore is stupid.



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 No.2041[Reply]

NO! I'm working on a 9-to-5 job and it's fucking awful. I barely get time for my own life.

 No.2042

I will get a job soon and not having enough free time scares me so much

 No.2043

at least it isn't retail…….. right?

 No.2044

I make $?00k a year, I'm still a commie.

 No.2601

When I got a job the only thing I stopped being was happy.

 No.2604

I was a liberal at university and became a communist when I got a full time job so idk where the fuck this meme comes from



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 No.1467[Reply]

How do I get rid of the spooks in my head that tell me that I am worthless and the world would be better off if every trace of my existence was erased?
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 No.1525

>>1518
>>1524

Also a sidenote: i think often we need a reason to live or justify what we do in general. This is interesting cause it poses itself as a high-level value that plugs into a low-level spot, by morally allowing action basically. But i think ultimately this is a necessary cope - the real desire that's hard to access is just to live and enjoy, but we need for some reason to give a proximal reason to it. This is why i say basically that we need spooks. We're never going to get rid of acting under the influence of irrational forces. If we get rid of the irrational forces, we lose all desire and reason to live or act. But we cant critique these things because they are too vulnerable to it and at the same time totally slippery to it. They're not able to be put under the blade of rational critique, and there is no "honest election" of choice when it comes to choosing what you value - its circular. So the best we can do is try to nurture what we see as positive meaning and value in our lives, and if we see none, then we need to somehow awaken it. And usually its various loves that do that. A love of nature, family, fellow workers, a passion project, a language, whatever. We need some kind of reason to say to us "hey, its okay to exist and make yourself happy", but without being that explicit about it. Thats exactly the unspoken part. We need something to put our libidinal energy into in order to be happy. And we need it to be irrational, and also our own "free choice" to obey this thing. It's higher powers all the way down, but thats egoism too i think, so dont get me wrong i dont see myself as against stirnoids and egoism or anything, just the basic ghostbuster mindset isnt always the cure - i read this article maybe? by Latour, known for being a big name in the critique of science, and he said that he still thinks that a lot of scientific ideas are vulnerable, but that doesnt necessarily mean we should tear them down in every way possible to see what we're left with, but rather we should nurture them. Maybe our power of critique/dismissal are too strong and dont unleash truth, or they give us a cold sort of truth like "i think therefore i am" type of useless truth, and to get anywhere good with our beliefs, we need to nurture what seems promising, and help grow our littPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1526

>>1518
on the last point about theory, hmm
this is a fun one
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.00697/full
idk i havent read anything that gives these ideas all as one together, i can tell that i base my thinking though on zizek and deluze a bit, deluze mainly for framing things and language i guess, and some freud too i guess. And probably others…. and of course my own experiences

 No.1950

>>1467

By realizing that those spooks were installed in your consciousness by institutions that have economic and political interests in keeping you subservient to them and the mode of production that sustains them, and the people in your life who have negatively sanctioned you for not adhering to said spooks live horrid existences centered around the reproduction of capital and simply bluff to feel less bad about themselves.

 No.1951

>>1467
Get swole

 No.2603

>>1951
how would that help



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 No.2588[Reply]

test poast


 No.2544[Reply]

Who are some underrated thinkers that gets ignored because they don't fit into the Marxist canon?
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 No.2564

>>2562
how are you underrated? stfu and stop humblebragging

 No.2565

>>2564
You wouldn't understand.

 No.2567

Erich Mühsam doesn't get mentioned enough
>badass music
>badass theory
>participated in an actual popular revolution that took care of Bavaria's monarchy and established a council republic that wasn't an authoritarian hellhole
>murdered by the nazis in a concentration camp because he was to based to be left alive
like seriously, he should be in the same league as Luxemburg, but just because he's an anarchist he was ignored my ML's and thusly by the left in general

 No.2568

>>2567
he even looks metal as fuck, wow

 No.2572




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 No.2511[Reply]

Was Diogenes our Greek?

 No.2537

the real diogenes was probably nothing like the one we know today and was made up in the late roman period

 No.2538

Link to OP's picrel?

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 No.2526[Reply]

So this is it
I found /dead/

 No.2527

maybe the /dead/ found you
also fuck your cringe ass flag



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 No.2017[Reply]

>wake up
>eat commodity
>sleep
>repeat
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 No.2260

>>2259
1. projection
2. all you can say about it is go back to leftypol, obviously you know somewhere deep inside i'm right and this thread is a weird as shit circlejerk for people who have lost all imagination, never played outside as kids, and want constant validation for their pessimism

 No.2261

>>2238
Marxism was invented to depress people

 No.2263

>>2260
>never played outside as kids,
The fuck are you on? I have fucking played outside as a kid, what does that have to do with anything? Are you really so fucking patronising that you think ppl on here are depressed cause they didnt have a dumb, mythical, petite-bourgeois picture-book childhood? Get fucking over yourself.
It must be fucking nice though, to delude yourself about the state we are actually in. When >>2258 said that there are no other things, no things outside of capitalism anymore, that is undoubtedly true.
What is there to do? You say 'do some hobbies' (wow what a fucking revelation, are you also the type that tells depressed ppl to be happier?). Like for example one could join a sports team. Sport teams, as we know them today, came up with fordism and the new demand for past-time activities . So it's a structure thats directly born out of capitalist development. But sports also reproduces capitalist ideology, seeing any field as a field of competition, with the winners eligible for big-money sponsorships and semi-prominency. If your arent able to fulfill the specific perfomance standarts, your are useless. Also, sports are being consumed as commodites (just like literally everything surrounding us) and thus also produced as commodities. Ones it gets proffesional, sports is no longer done for intrinsic value as sports, it is only a way to accumulate money, sport is only made to be sold.
Same is true for the next example I'm gonna look at: arts. No matter if you are drawing, making music or movies, it has all become commodities. If you draw, you are better ready to lower yourself to drawing pregnant furry commisions for small money. Forget doing something just for its own sake - the market for art is big and inflated, so you better lower your standarts. But at least the field of drawn art isnt as dominated by giant mega-businesses as movies or music are, squashing any creativity in favor of marketability. But what's even worse than them are their counterparts on the "indie" scene - pumping out one dull nightmare after another in desperate attemps to subvert the culture - sadly not understanding that they reify industry norms by doing so.
What other hobbies are there? Im sure there is a hole host of stuff Im not evenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.2523

>>2184
Yeah I'm in prison, a prison called society

 No.2524

>>2263
damn all that text just to say "i'll only see the reality i want to see"
good luck at living. I'm actually sorry that everything you do, you feel like you end up trying to make money off of or being forced to spend excessive money on, or that other people are trying to make money off it and that ruins it for you.

On what you said "hurr get over your childhood or something", it's nothing like "get over your childhood" or "you're sad because you didnt have a mythical perfect petite-bourg childhood", its literally the opposite in both cases.
I meant that you obviously have no idea of how to do things that don't involve buying or selling (except writing essays about your anger at everything on leftypol dot org) because you're leaving out the dimension of play - which imlies you never fucking did it, or else you'd understand that not everything is about buying shit and selling shit or formal organizations or any of that. But you refuse to see this. Idk how or why or if you've just been having a bad week or something or who knows what. But its ridiculous as shit.


And I mean I have to add, that I'm here because I have generally the same politics and views of society. What I don't share is the pessimism and small-mindedness about my own range of action. I do agree that much of what we do does unintentionally support or buy into capitalism. But I also think there's space for a neutral ground (which is trying to be impinged, and may need more and more courage of subversive attitude to carry out as anything not pro-empire is seen as criminal and anti-empire) of just meaningless and informal play, and there's also the space of subversion of capitalism, which is a whole set of activities and relations in itself which you could put your time towards. So I can't understand at all why there's all this vitriol to support the idea that there's nothing we can do that's not commodified. For example, why do you have to draw furry art if you draw? You can just draw. The point of a hobby is that you just do it, without making money. And you can do it without expending excessive money too, on specialty items or things that make you feel good and supplement your identity. Those things are an option, and an option which we can opt out of. Obviously it's super fucked up that so much is commodified, and I'm not saying we can opt out of society or aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 No.2448[Reply]

<Some weird version of Anarchy and Christianity by Jecques Ellul
>The anarchists’ attacks on God, the Church and religion are strictly correct, on condition that the God in question was the God remodeled by this very particular theology of Church-became-Power. and by the peculiar and capricious association of Church and social and political power following the sixteenth century. This theology to support this Church-State relationship is in no way an expression of biblical Christianity: indeed it is a contradiction. The roots are, rather, time after time in the theological heresy of a God conceived exclusively as the All-Powerful. The error of the anarchists and of Marx was to believe that they were face to face with Christianity itself, whereas they encountered merely its bourgeois metamorphosis. By adhering to this judgment they have overvalued those very features-be they in the early Church or during the Middle Ages-which confirm their point of view, instead of considering them only one among many other possibilities. For example, the death of Ananias and Sapphira are evidence that the apostles were terrible dictators. The Inquisition became the symbol for the medieval church. The construction of cathedrals was seen as the symbol for the enslavement of poor people crushed by the clergy.

>Everything that was real regarding love and joy and Christian freedom the anarchists overlooked, joyfully. In other words, the anarchists-justly fighting against the Christian totalitarianism and authoritarianism of the seventeenth to the nineteenth centuries-had a totally false view of the fundamental reality of Christianity and the God of Jesus Christ


Do you agree?

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 No.2503

>>2500
i'm sorry anon i'm just taking issue with invoking history as an authority à la "it didn't succeed so it's bad". it's the same type of thinking that makes you reduce religion to domination because the catholic church is still around while the revolutionary peasants aren't. as walter benjamin once said one has to brush history against the grain.

 No.2504

>>2503
The revolutionary peasants were not anarchists either. They still wanted kings and shit.

 No.2507

>>2503
>à la "it didn't succeed so it's bad"
it didn't happen so it didn't happen
I don't care about things might have happened, like religion aiding emancipation
also werent you invoking history as authority too?
>but if you actually knew any history you'd understand the role millenarian movements played in the middle ages

 No.2508

>>2507
secular anarchist theory hasnt lead to shit, but secular statism has created the largest and most oppressive empire ever….. time to give up secular theory and organizations too fam :(

 No.2509

>>2508
>secular anarchist theory hasnt lead to shit
this is /dead/, I know
still not an argument for spiritual theory

>but secular statism has created the largest and most oppressive empire ever

ISIS never happened
or taliban rule in afghanistan
or spanish inquisition or the saxony wars of charlamagne

>time to give up secular theory and organizations too fam

this is sooo dumb. just because secular theory didnt work doesnt mean that spiritual theory does. in fact, all social anarchisms, be that spiritual or secular are trash. get into post-left theory fam ;)



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 No.2385[Reply]

I don't get the hype over Desert. I think it's an important read for people drunk on copium that think that "revolution" or succdem shit will save us, but a lot of the book seems like common sense presented in a pompous and medoicrely written way. Plus, it's all just a bunch of speculation—speculation that I mostly agree with, but speculation nonetheless. Also, the author keeps metioning the "ethics" of anarchism—pretty lame, Milhouse.

What does /dead/ think of Desert? Overhyped or hyped correctly?
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 No.2399

I had no idea it was hyped that much, I don't see it mentioned that often, but apparently it is by far the most popular book on the library: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/stats/popular/1

 No.2419

>>2399
Burger retard Invis Committee have been shiling ut offensively heavily since almost its release.

 No.2420

>>2399
Honestly page 2 has all the better reads.

 No.2427

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>>2420
>dude living a sheltered life in amerikkka is totally like getting interned and killed by the nazis

 No.2428

>>2427
I sort of agree, it would have been better as a book about Holocaust resistance without forcing the ITS and "jouissance" shit into it.



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