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Graeber's new book dropped, it is said to really change what we know about early human history, so I thought it would be of interest here.

Post about it here. I'll try to read it in the next weeks (months? It's pretty long).
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I finished this book.

 

>>2826
so, what did you think?

 

>>2827
I am still thinking about it. It was a bit overwhelming with the seemingly endless descriptions of the practices of past societies, but I guess that's what makes it a book of anthropology. The subtitle of the book says it is a "new history" but it did not feel like it, it's more like an attack on the current understanding of history. Well, I guess history is a lot more complicated than we were told in school. It's probably too long and dry to achieve mainstream success but hopefully it will at least make a dent or inspire people to do more research in these ways.

 

Plus it's kind of funny that they start from criticising Rousseau but end up pointing at the concept of property in Roman law as the possible reason for why we are stuck with the current social form.

 

>>2746
just read one, don;t let it pile up comrade

>>2809
hw do i go back to hunter gatherer mode?
maybe i'll go out tommorrow and get lost buying vegetables

or i'll pick a day and just woooolk everywhere



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>Get all those ghosts out of my sight, they devour all of my might

 

you want racist songs?

 


 


 


 

>>3683
this entire record kicks ass



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How should we relate to history? Is there any point to studying it? If yes, how should we go about it?
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>>1746
it's kind of a meme. so how can communism work in such a scenario where people act for their own interests?

 

I'm afraid that the established narrative runs too deep in the general public (i mean the one about the emergence of the state) and mentioning the scott and graeber theories gets you the weird stares

 

>>1766
what was graeber's theory again? i don't remember him addressing this issue in the debt book

 

>>1403
Bumping for this.

 

>>3680
Civilization and Capitalism by Fernand Braudel deals with population. It's a relatively limited time period, but goes into detail on specific abstracted elements like population, among others. I reccomend it unless you're specifically looking for work on early states (which, Graeber and James C. Scott are basically my go-to for that so if they haven't said more then all the worse for the rest of us! But there's not a ton that can be said confidently, since it was so long ago and the evidence still existing is limited. I'm surprised they've been able to milk what evidence they do have for the the mileage they get out of it.)



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😂😂
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>>3475
Unlikely. Stirner didnt really mention marx in the unique. he talked about communism, but it reads more like a saint-simon-type conception of communism rather than a marxist one. Like we have to keep in mind that in the times Stirner wrote the Unique Marx was not a well known theorist. If at all, he was known as a journalist. Proudhon, Feuerbach and Bauer were just much more relevant before the 1848 revolution, which is why they are mentioned directly.
Of course I agree that Stirner definetly used irony or provocation in the Unique, but even then the goal wasn't to mess with Marx specificly. Imo Stirner probably didn't know Marx or only as part of the rheinische, his journal.

 

>>3476
I was referring to the meme above, not to the book. Like, imagine Stirner saying that to a pissed-off Marx. I mean, in Philosophical Reactionaries we had this paragraph of Stirner making fun of his contemporaries:
>Do you philosophers actually have an inkling that you have been beaten with your own weapons? Nothing but an inkling. What retort can you hearty fellows make against it, when I again dialectically demolish what you have just dialectically put up? You have shown me with what “eloquence” one can make all into nothing and nothing into all, black into white and white into black. What do you have against it, when I turn your neat trick back on you? But with the dialectical trick of a philosophy of nature, neither you nor I will cancel the great facts of modern natural research, no more than Schelling and Hegel did. Precisely here the philosopher has revealed himself as the “clumsy” subject; because he is as ignorant in a “clumsified” sphere in which he has no power, as a witless Gulliver among the giants.

I would imagine that if he read The German Ideology he would mock the hell out of Marx's ass.

 

>>3471
this is the stupidest thing. If marx really had that in mind it only would serve to prove his total intellectual ineffectiveness against stirner's ideas.

 

>>3485
I would kill for a time machine so I could go back, hand Stirner a copy of "The German Ideology", and get a snap shot of his massive forhead. I've always wondered how he would respond to his critique of his use of lumpenproletariat. Something tells me it would be a bit more nuanced than Marx anticipated.

 

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How come that "green politics" two decades ago was much more radical than today even though the situation today is so much more obviously very dire? You would think that now that more people are interested in "green politics" there would be proportionally more direct action and whatnot but it seems that people's interest is limited to being scared shitless of the/no future.

 

because green politics got intergrated into the neoliberal status quo since then. same thing that happened to socdem and everything that tries to take part in parliamentarian politics.

 

because it was tied to the alter mondialisme movement and died with it

 

All political movements were much more radical a century ago. Nothing that good ol' political persecution, police violence, a couple of assassinations and decades of nonstop propaganda couldn't fix, though.

 

>>3647
What's that



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Stalin did nothing wrong
Except possibly being so kind and benevolent as he was he didn't kill enough people
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Reminder that Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Castro were unironically history's best realization of Nietzsche€n übermensch.
Commies are life-affirmers, liberals are last men, fascoids promote slave morality, etc etc

 

>>3640
life affirmation is when you kill everyone you don't like

 

>>3641
Liberal detected

 

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>>3640
>they think that that is somhow a positive thing

 




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How to prepare for the end of the world as we know it so we can feel fine?

 


>Whatever result was obtained in Satya yuga by meditating on Visnu, in Treta yuga by performing sacrifices and in Dvapara yuga by seeing the Lord's lotus feet can also be obtained in Kali yuga simply by chanting the Hare Krsna maha−mantra. – Srimad Bhagavatam 12.3.52



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Wtf pedophile dead?
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>>3577
good choice

 

who?

 

>>3580
Hakim Bey.

 

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crakkker imperialist larping as arab

 

everyone was a pedo in the 70s, can't blame him
i liked Pirate Utopias



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Due to the techno-industrial city, doesn't matter the ideology, or society which possesses it; it will always need many people to keep it alive, and for this reason smaller languages cannot survive in this harsh environment. Let's assume a group of people who speak a minority language with around 300 speakers, they live in a poor small village, next to it is a city where a major language is spoken, if people want to have a industrial life, they will need to move to the city, commune, whatever is more convenient for your industrialist society, and there they will stay for better life conditions.

When this happens, there are two possible outcomes:
> 1 - They won't teach their native to their children preferring them to only speak the major language, because their native language is "useless"
> 2 - They will teach their language to their children, let's assume the best case scenario and let's say they taught the most traditional form with no loanwords, only native words, and the children speaks the minority language perfectly; here is a more case by case thing, but probably this kid will only speak this language with his family, and with no one else, so many things could happen here, loanwords enter his language when talking to their parents, they start speaking more and more of the majority language with their parents, and in the future they will spread a more majority languicized version of the original language, and with each generation the language is slowly(or maybe even faster in worse scenarios) disappearing until it is finally gone. This being the best case scenario for the language.

This is the natural process for smaller languages, which are the majority of our world's languages today on the techno-industrial system by its pure nature. But now let's make a case, how could we revive this language? A fake idea of national identity could bring up many nationalists puppets who would only speak the original language in its pure version, and would force their children and relatives to only speak it; this is a similar case to Ukrainian which is a language that I know fairly well, but it also brings all the nationalist spooks, fights, racism, class division and way more stuff(evidence for this is the state of the Ukrainian language today) that all of us know so I don't think anyone here would agree in doing this as a long term solution.

So as we can see, language Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>3533
you could translate that anytime you want, maybe keep the loanwords. as people move over time and the language spreads it will take over if people have no reason to learn english anymore. also have you noticed the latin/french loanwords in scientific disciplines? it sounds so ugly and out of place.

 

>>3531
The CPC at one point was seriously proposing to change the national language of China to Esperanto, as relatively neutral intermediaty between commonly spoken languagea that was adopted by many inernationalist socialists. This was before the national chauvinism shit though.

 

>>3531
>We need languages that are artifically manufactured in a lab and enforce it upon everyone in robotic fashion.

 

>>3534
>also have you noticed the latin/french loanwords in scientific disciplines? it sounds so ugly and out of place
True, they should have used Swahili instead. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

Everyone will speak chinese, accept your new masters



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>A revolutionary movement offers to solve all problems at one stroke and create a whole new world; it provides the kind of ideal for which people will take great risks and make great sacrifices.
Have truer words ever been spoken?
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>A revolutionary movement offers to solve all problems at one stroke and create a whole new world
It aint. Revolutions don't really offer anything aside from a change of personnel at the top of any given hierarchy.
Insurrection on the other hand…

 

Lenin said something similar
I wanna love ted, if only he were class pilled

 

>>3497
if u dont know where his ideas are based ur the retard objectively

 

>>3498
fucking inusrrectos

 

>>3499
ye
I can really sympathize even with his primitivist spooks
idk if he was actually an ecologist but I also care deeply about nature regardless of it's impact on humanity



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