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It is no exaggeration to say the reason we are heading towards catastrophe and possible extinction is due to losing the propaganda war.

Its not that the system is so oppressive that people cant rebel. Police violence. Threat of homelessness and hunger. Rent. Fear. People can overcome all of this and more. History has shown this. Information is where the true battle takes place.

The reason the revolution does not happen is because the masses are severely brainwashed. Most people believe Capitalism is natural and unavoidable. That humans are inherently evil. And thus a better society is impossible.
Schools and media have perfectly done their job.

Deprograming takes too much individual, conscious effort and time to pretend to reeducate the masses. I can not see the way out of this bros
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>>5583
>The years will pass, and we'll get to work producing more babies than ever before
It's so cool how literally every world leader views their populace as nothing more than cattle

>>5583
>Was it "too late" when the savagery of WW1 was killing people in the millions?
Yes, unironically. WW1 broke the back of international solidarity and ushered in fascism, and genocided the mobilized working classes, causing leftism to be unprepared to capitalize on the great crisis in capitalism (the depression). we would be travelling to alpha centauri today if WW1 didn't happen with leftist collaboration. all we got was some shitty rump states that later collapsed.

>>5598
WW1 revealed to all that none of these people making promises were what they purported to be, and the people were left with no one. That was the purpose of all of this - to destroy any concept of democracy, what little existed, because they hated the people and wanted to subsume them in some cockamamie system or another. It was inmposed by force, by insinuation, and by the vices of the human race, which really were the human spirit. The aspiration for it to be different was always a faint one, made possible because people would for the first time really have any way to speak of the rest of the world. For most of history, people don't move that far from where they are born, and don't have much to do with anyone outside of that world. States are weak and have little interest in the working class, and this was assumed when they were shoved into cities and made to starve by this callosu and Satanic order.

What was carried out privately and at a local arena became the civic cult of modernity, which was made completely alien by insinuation to serve aristocracy - to restore serfdom and the filthiest impulses of Germanic culture and the vices of the human race generally.

Germany wasn't defeated enough, basically. But, it will be defeated utterly, its way of life eliminated and kept in a museum of degenerate art where it belongs. That would then start the process of allowing this society to heal, if its excesses can be described as what they were, and no more excuses regarding this are tolerated. When you go down that rabbit hole, history makes a lot more sense. These stupid people have this completely undeserved reputation and insist that this time their plans will totally work and can't lose. It's the same song and dance since the cope of 1914.

That won't solve our problems, of course. I doubt humans have it in them to want this situation to be different in the public. Too many of them allowed this to go on in ways that were wholly unnecessary and not prompted by anyone, except an impulse of aristocracy that humasn learned by the example - the only example we are allowed to see of what humans can be.

Anywhere there is a hint of sentiment other than the thrill of torture, it is mocked, made unseemly, and declared heretical against the spirit of the human race. The human spirit is a monstrosity and history has judged.



 

I think Alex Dugin is based. Not because of his tradorth-eurasianism mumbo jumbo. This is just his storefront truth to appeal to normies. Deep in his heart he is a nihilist and he knows there is no universal truth. He knows, that you can freely choose your truth how you wish. I absolutely love this interview and I've listened to it multiple times. Our existence is just larping.
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=GGunRKWtWBs&listen=1

>>5515
The best american that ever existed. Hunanity was not read for him, and the american people betrayed their savior, Alex Dugin. They shall be punished in the last day of all days for their sin.



 

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>>5438
whta mod?

>>5438
He looks so old. The real Stirner died at 50 of a bug bite

>>5439
no clue, i copy pasted from here
>>>/games/35828

>>5427
That was me, kind of. I was a hardcore libertarian in my teens, largely but not entirely influenced by Ayn Rand. I was interested in Stirner because I knew he was an egoist like Rand, and on reading him, I came to realize that I was looking at things from the wrong direction.



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ITT: post PRAXIS
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What direct action can be done from the comfort of my home? I can't go out because of the virus.

>>940
learn programming and create viruses that attack the digital communication of capitalist corporations and bourgeoi states


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hehe ha

>>735
Big pp.



 

I think the left is too nice, and doesn't feature enough comic sadism and spite.
I genuinely have a deep desire to be hurt and controlled, and to hurt and control others.
I think such self-defeating desires are as legitimate as any others, and cannot be reduced to madness or ideology.
I do think I should probably just pay for a dom when I save up enough neetbux.
Or maybe ERP online.
But I'm kind of a coward though.
Anyhow, that's the biggest reason why I don't like the left.
>inb4 but if you don't like the left then why are you a leftist
Easy, I don't like myself either.
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>>5212
It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.

>>5213
>It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.
Well, I technically have nothing against it, but as Stirner said, by embracing one drive you repress many others. Embracing suffering isn't embracing the totality of life.

holy fuck put /dead/ back in the crypt agin and get it off the overboard. fucking hell.

>>5430
This thread was moved here from /leftypol/. It's an attempt by the mods to destroy /dead/.

>>5432
What is /dead/ may never die



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So now that the 'socialism' fad is petering out, what will be the next outsider ideology to that captures the attention of disaffected western youth? Fifteen years ago it was 'libertarianism,' and fifteen years before that it was alter-globalization and anti-establishment anarchism.

What will the zoomers and their progeny believe in? Esoteric fascism, a resurgent Kaczynski-inspired primitivism, or some other as yet unimaginable set of principles?
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>>4895
>What will the zoomers and their progeny believe in?
It sure isn't post-left anarchism.

The zoom-zooms are only starting to form their ideas. I think fourth-wave feminism and alt-rightism still have some time to grow before they reach a boiling point. Until then I don't see the zoomers' beliefs to drastically change. They pretty much feed into each other, with one group standing for what the other one opposes. The centrists are too apathetic to really be a proper resistance to these two belief systems so maybe dirtbag leftism will become more popular. Or NazBols perhaps? Yeah, NazBolism is such a meme these days, zoomers like memes.

Obviously post-leftism is the only reasonable alternative to this culture war nonsense but not like the majority of people posesses critical thinking skills. It's all just an overreaction to an overreaction to an overreaction.

>>4895
The new ideology for the kiddos is CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME WATCH WATCH WATCH CONSUME NICOTINE PRODUCTS WATCH WATCH WATCH
Also probably Neo-Nazism

>>5178
>>5415
>>4895
>Failed adults trying to "figure out" the youth.


Yall are too obsessed with generational strawmen

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Probably some even more fucked up version of Eurasianism

>>5418
Well, if Breadtube will start openly supporting neoliberalism there's not that much competition tbh.



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Communism is dead and died in 1922. The USSR basically became another imperialist bloc and then died, there is no relevant Marxist power on Earth, and the revolution hasn't happened after +150 years. Trade unions are pretty dead (not that they're progressive in the first world) and people join them for workers' rights without caring about internationalism or communism at all or because the industry itself is already unionised; hustle culture, part-time jobs, reverse army of labour, etc, means it's harder to unionise jobs. There isn't a righteous bloc between the first world or third world/BRICS/China, it's which favelas and former colonies are exploited by economic imbalance, colonial infrastructure, and the USD. I'm not sure how unequal exchange could be stopped without communism and it seems like a form of intersectionality so I'm not going to talk about it too much.

I feel like most people here have tacitly accepted that communism is dead and it's just band kids, or intellectuals, or nostalgia-boos. Endlessly regurgitating the same talking points and having literal near-zero impact. It's a glorified history club with some "happenings" about sectarian moralist garbage. Can anyone agree what communism is or what they want after le revolution? And why anyone would listen to Marx' and Bukharin's schizo-ramblings from over a century ago instead of doing something immediately useful like studying for something, or jerking off and playing video-games. I don't think you could scientifically prove Marx and Stirner (lol) btfod him anyways. Communists or Anarchists can't even take over a small island or a city or something. How many people have read Marx in full and how would you distil it without turning it into dogma or agitprop.

Anybody who is sort of successful and is absorbed by western media (which is 90% of the world) will be a liberal by default. Then alt-right/neo-nazis or religion captures other people because they're provocative and lean on perceived real life experiences and spirituality. There is no logistical reason why you couldn't implement communism tomorrow if you wiped every other ideology off the Earth, it's that aesthetics matter way more than "materialism" (Yes, I'm using the human nature argument.)

My point is I'm bored and I don't have anything to do or any meaning in my life.
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>>5083
It definitely happens. There's a lot of horror stories about people being locked in for years.

>>5084
Not for just telling your doctor you're depressed lol. If you say you're about to kill yourself or someone else then maybe but Reagan closed most of the asylums years ago.

>>5084
>There's a lot of horror stories about people being locked in for years.

Like the joker!

>>5079
>>5046
>>5047
>>5053
>>5054
>>5059


OP you are right.
Politics is just lazy intellectual exercises.
A moral convenienxe by adults used for appearing "profound"

>>5051
>Most of the "socialist young people" are really just liberals mad because their wages are being depressed
Well why is that a problem? Why do they need to believe in some metaphysical cause of communism when their egoist motivation is already at odds with capitalism?



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If u feel alone with ur beliefs, never, you may be alone, but u are not without nothing, you may be on the ground in loneliness, but never, and I mean never, give up on life, if all you have are ur beliefs, believe in them, and tell no human that u hold differently, everyone believes in their own things, and remember, when u speak, to at least always have a heart, not in the capitalist sense, but for everything, in a sense deeper than their contradictions and falsehoods even if they end up trying to use their own intellectuals to down u, there is always something useful to resistance and forcing around, always will be

if no one will hold the line, at least u will, or at least believe u will, form friends you can, and care about others, fight for how u feel is right or what made u feel so alone in the world, ur feelings are probably not the first, hit the wall of death as much as you can believing that this is not ur first life because it isn't, it might be feeling like from the future comes a better life, and it is, along with can be from many other people



Let this fire burn in you always, don't let it melt you down to nothing, get outside, walk around, grab the nearest shovel or tool, if u must work, at least u have worked and believed with what you can, hold the line, because you are the only one, and ur only solution is to keep the fire you have, let theirs die and keep hope in all things, you are not alone, you are a piece of them, but you'll know many things, learn to know many things, and have things to share. Always write, never let anyone take this ability from you, learn to write safely, and bury urself in the best of respect. Whatever friends you have are important, tell them this, and hold them. Create a campfire of spirit, if you can not do this in real life, do so in ur mind or draw one on paper, and know at least, u are alive, you will never not be heard, if no human hears you, make them hear u, don't let urself be the fool of doubting you, being fool is a act, if no one must remind them of the suffering they have caused and that u must succumb to for pleasures? Give them hell. Suffering is worth every minute if it expels such men from the earth. You may be small, but you know a world exists

sit next to the campfire, don't give up ur life so easily, and breach all things where they may feel like they can stop u mentally, many of us barely had anything at times and in lots of areas, from all sorts of placePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>4869
Wait, what the fuck

>tell them to never give up mang

>Ok thats nice and not false-hope pilled

how does typing something out to people, make it, false-hope? I am trying to muster the anons strength and tell them to not give up

>>4877
>how does typing something out to people, make it, false-hope?
<Ok thats nice and not false-hope pilled
That was meant literally. You somehow read it as an ironic statement when it wasn't.

>>4878
Lol I am bad at reading things sorry anon

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Meat can be weak, Mind can be strong

Post-leftists are truly the most oppressed minority frfr.

Well, at least we're freethinkers unlike all those sheeple, right? Society will not enslave us.



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I'm fully black pilled, even just talking to fucking Western normies has me begging Putin to unleash his entire nuclear arsenal yesterday. I think I finally realize why I hate our species. Because humans are servile. People are like cattle in a way, real go along to get along fucking faggots. Almost all humans bask in slave morality and their only purpose for existence is to toil for their masters, almost no westerner can think outside the confines of capital, the only ways they can envision bettering their lives is by serving the market better or simply becoming capitalists, which is what 90% of people aspire to. Unlike past generations, no amount of suffering or poverty can make modern normies change, they are fundamentally different from the labor movement of the previous century, normies cannot rebel, mentally or emotionally, if you try critiquing capitalism, even subtly, they will call you a filthy Marxist communist and reject whatever you have to say.

Normies are infinitely more retarded than they were in the late 2010s, because like animals they have decided they want to be ruled so long as they're fed pig slop, they hate politics now, they hate communists explicitly because communists think about society deeply and want to change the world for better, normies do not think the world can be improved and don't want it to be.

Nuclear war is the most revolutionary act that can be taken in modern society.
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>>5111
Song?

>>5103
>you point out their tendency to live on the knees and gobble up dirt in their mouths
<"I'm fully black pilled,"
Zero self awareness lol
> If you post on a communist board and can't even pull off reading some paragraphs
"Read these worthless radlib paragraphs to prove you aren't a liberal" nah

>>5098
>deserve
Sounds like a moralistic language to me. Are you included in that "deserving" group? Am I included? Because I sure do not want to die.
>Almost all humans bask in slave morality and their only purpose for existence is to toil for their masters
I think it's the fault of our class society.
>like animals
But we're already animals…
>Nuclear war is the most revolutionary act that can be taken in modern society.
If I can't dance, I don't want to be a part of your revolution.
>talking to fucking Western normies has me begging Putin to unleash his entire nuclear arsenal yesterday
Not gonna happen and you know it.

>>5114
>>5114
>All the tax money that goes to social security and gibs for ghetto rats
Based ghetto rats gaining the system.



 

i just checked /lit/ and half the threads and posts are off topic nazi stuff
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>>3445
>the politics that was liquidated in 1945, if not even before, is relevant in this century

>>3446
>I won't buy the pessimism, or ideas about how fascism is libidinally strong or some bullshit. Socialism is sanity, its tradition, it's love, its acceptance, etc. This will prevail over ideologies hateful of life i believe.
This naivety is preceisly why the left never works out.
hate is what life runs on, we're literarly darwinian beings, selfishness and hate are built in. love and empathy are secondary accidents in limited capacities.
we're lucky to have them, but we're also incredibly unlucky we because we don't have enough of them.

Closest I ever got to using /lit/ was asking /fur/ for pdfs of the Warriors series by Erin Hunter.

>>3361
4chan is actually unusable, it's pretty much all /pol/ posting and overused memes. The most enjoyable thing on there is redditors making up greentexts to repost to their instagram accounts.

>>3369
This post would've been accurate if you made it in 2016. Back then, leftistism was generally viewed through the anti-SJW lens that saw us all as uptight blue-haired faggots that spent all day making up genders and complaining about inconsequential bullshit. There really wasn't a place for non-idpol politics in mainstream internet culture, and the "side" we fell on was seen as cringe.

Fast forward eight years, and there's this general sentiment that, while maybe "the left" still isn't cool, "the right" has proven itself to be just as uncool. The reactionary current brought about by GamerGate lost its cool factor as it was absorbed into and consumed by mainstream partisan politics, and the general consensus on certain social issues, particularly homosexuality, has shifted in a way where even most self-identified "conservatives" find alt-right politics offputting.

There's also a lot more people that are willing to reject the premise of American red vs blue politics outright. Something like the pro-Palestine protests simply wouldn't have happened back then.



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