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 No.986[Reply]

What do we do about e guns, e cannons, drones and other electronic based weapons in future wars? How will these machines respond to tech like EMPs and multilayered radars?
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 No.4052

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Gauss Rifles, like coilguns and railguns, it uses electro-magnetic force to fire caseless ammunition.
https://archive.ph/N96NA

 No.4053

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https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/11/23/russia-is-starting-to-make-its-superiority-in-electronic-warfare-count
>Ukraine discovered in March that its Excalibur GPS-guided shells suddenly started going off-target, thanks to Russian jamming. Something similar started happening to the JDAM-ER guided bombs that America had supplied to the Ukrainian air force, while Ukraine’s HIMARS-launched GMLRS long-range rockets also started missing their targets. In some areas, a majority of GMLRS rounds now go astray.
>Even more worrying has been the increasing ability of Russian EW to counter the multitudes of cheap unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that Ukraine has been using for everything from battlefield reconnaissance and communications to exploding on impact against targets such as tanks or command nodes.
>Ukraine has trained an army of some 10,000 drone pilots who are now constantly engaged in a cat-and-mouse game with increasingly adept Russian EW operators. The favoured drones are cheap, costing not much more than $1,000 each, and Ukraine is building enormous quantities of them. But losses to Russian EW, which either scrambles their guidance systems or jams their radio-control links with their operators, have at times been running at over 2,000 a week. The smitten drones hover aimlessly until their batteries run out and they fall to the ground.
>Neither hardening them against jamming nor investing them with artificial intelligence to fly without a live link to a human operator are feasible options yet, at least for mini-drones. Quantity still wins out over quality, but Russia may have an advantage there too. The skies over the battlefield are now thick with Russian drones. Around Bakhmut, Ukrainian soldiers estimate that Russia is deploying twice the number of assault drones they are able to.

 No.4076

I don't know about these weird electric firing mechanism but the idea I had was a rifle with a barrel that adjusts itself automatically to aim for heatsignal. An autoaim of sorts. Also maybe with a camera as a scope that shows what it's seeing zoomed in, you could use this to aim without having to lay your head on the rifle and practically aim and shoot arround cornoers by only exposing your hands and the rifle.

 No.4079

>>4076
That's such an easy method to cause friendly fire. You'd need to have an identification system as well.

 No.4085

>>4079
to go into further detail, there would be a button and a screen that shows what the camera is seeing, you would have to hold the button to make the barrel adjust itself, and if your targets are mixed in with friendlies just don't hold the button and try firing without the autoaim or not fire at all at friendlies, idk



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 No.201[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

P1.
Alright, so I won't go too much into it, but as I'm sure you've all noticed, there is a distinct lack of competent organizations and combat readiness in the left. While it may just be a stereotype, the idea of the skinny and weak anarchist can sum up most of the left that wishes to engage in direct action, mostly by using outdated manuals and romanticized ideas of war. As such, I had, a few years ago, taken it upon myself to release training videos to some of you in order to get you up to speed on the basics of the basics. That, unfortunately, seems to have fallen through on the account of my job, which often has me traveling and doing other things that I won't go into because they are totally uninteresting and unrelated to the topic at hand. As such, we will go into a few key steps you should be taking in order to prepare yourself for introductory training, should it ever be offered to you. Yes, you read that correctly, you must train yourself to be trained. You do not have the luxury of being part of an organized military force, though I would not critique you if that is the route you are wanting to take, as it would be hypocritical. I will limit the topic to individual training, equipment, and self-selection because the whole of military science is a broad topic that is not wholly known by any one individual. Please understand this so that my limitations do not become a hindrance to your growth as a potential combat soldier. Seek training from experienced individuals, even if you have to hide your power level. Consider me just another voice on the internet. I do not intend to use credentials or authority on the subject to get you to do as I say, but I would appreciate it if you thought about a few things. Thank you for reading.
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 No.2824

>>2823
i'm not a leftist you faggot

 No.2825

>>2257

This is ok advice but not great, I want to make note of the gulf wars as one gap frequently noted in the Americans arsenal was the 500-1 mile range


American assault rifles where incapable of putting effective fire on targets in that range, but you know what wasn't? Bolt action rifles used by the Taliban.


A common tactic of the Taliban as such was to just pitch up snipers in mountains and have them take pot shots at people within that ranging then fucking run, rinse repeat.

Know your enemy

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 No.3184

>>3175
Thanks man. Scan anything here before opening it.

 No.4083

Is there any utility to studying strategy as a supplement(as long as you don't consider a substitute to actual training like many do) or would it be useless without the wisdom of a more experienced mentor?



 No.2478[Reply]

Thread to talk about drone warfare in general.

There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.

In my experience something that is sorely lacking in protests going wild is intelligence about police postions, while the bad guys usually have a QG with plenty of operators gathering and distributing intelligence to police officers trough cameras, helicopters and, you guessed it, drones.

So, what's keeping us from using drones? Those for kids which are 50 bucks on amazon could do the trick, it would take a team of two, one pilot and one operative relaying intel trough a phone or a radio to someone in the front of the protest.

I know there are anti drone weapons, but they don't work that well and these aren't well established yet. In case of capture though it's good to prevent or render difficult a trace, so it would be smart to buy those drones trough proxies and false adresses, and scratch whatever number they have on them.
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 No.3906

China's massive Divine Eagle drone is supposedly meant to locate and possibly hunt stealth aircraft. It's an interesting usage of drones, and speaks to an advancement in drone air-to-air capabilities, considering that 2 decades ago manned fighters were easily shooting them down (the Iraqi MiG-25 taking out the American Predator drone)

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/divine-eagle-china-s-massive-new-drone-designed-to-seek-and-destroy-f-35s
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shenying.htm

 No.3908

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As a result of the rapid development of drone warfare in Ukraine by Russia a new program called Дронница is being developed with 2023 holding an expo and 2024 being planned as the beginning of mass integration and production of this new military force. It is seen as the future of combat, and probably correctly.
https://topwar.ru/228460-bespilotnoe-buduschee-sozdaetsja-sejchas-o-slete-dronnica-2023.html

 No.3909

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the Chinese Hypersonic drone is an interesting mystery, it's probably going to have an armed version at some point.
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/china-worlds-only-hypersonic-aircraft

 No.3936

Hamas has posted a video with their underwater drone Al Asef , made to strike Israel's navy. While Israeli ships are limited to fast lightly arms boats, a few submarines and corvettes, they are relatively well armed, but still a weak link for the primarily air and ground focused military. It's interesting considering how rapidly the SMO has accelerated the usage of small drones in combat, as opposed to the more traditional unmanned strike aircraft previously being used by nations like the USA.
https://topwar.ru/229564-hamas-predstavilo-podvodnyj-dron-al-asef-dlja-nanesenija-udarov-po-izrailju.html

 No.4080

Another instance of intentional drone vs drone warfare. A Russian terrestrial drone for transporting supplies was attacked by FPS suicide drones. One was taken out by the mounted Electronic Counter-Measure system, while the other managed to crash and detonate, though significant damage to the Russian drone wasn't caused.



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 No.1824[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Is an AR-15 the best rifle to get if you're looking to arm yourself? I know it's incredibly popular in the US, but I'm not sure how much of that is just people trying to operator larp.

Pros:
- Cheap ammo
- Ample parts
- Easy to use

Cons:
- Complex
- Low powered round
- High-profile sights
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 No.3928

>>1824
>- Low powered round
Compared to what?

>- Complex

again, compared to what?

 No.3929

>>1847
they're great for hunting

 No.3930

>>2715
>most armor above level III is designed to stop shotgun blasts and pistol round
level III armor can stop lead-core 7.62x39 and 5.56

 No.4077

>>1824
Is this thread still active? Damb I posted this one years ago as low effort reply bait

 No.4078

>>4077
this is a very slow board



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 No.1028[Reply]

excavating tunnels, trenches, ditches, ramparts, moats, holes, any kind of defensive earthwork where industrial machinery isn't viable

you can get most stuff off of amazon or any hardware or milsurp store
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 No.4036

>>4035
broke: Ukraine war is just like WW2
woke: Ukraine war is just like WW1

 No.4038

>>4036
bespoke: war never changes

 No.4042

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>>1028
With only one or two people you're gonna need full size pickaxe and shovels. The little infantry shovels are only useful for carrying in a kit. Only really viable when you have military unit sized groups. You know dozens of dudes all digging at the same time.

One modern anecdote I'll say is I've seen in Ukraine that both sides use the "spam can" ammunition tins as containers. They put them into little dugout shelves. Also have seen whole firing positions built out of ammo cans filled with dirt. Stuff like that is only really doable in wartime measures. I do find it interesting tactic though.

 No.4072

>>4036
this is probably a better comparison
ended at a standstill almost immediately
literal trench warfare with thousands upon thousands turned into mincemeat just to secure a kilometre of land
constant accusations of backstabbing
weird dehumanization propaganda

 No.4073

>>4072
>[Russia-Ukraine war] ended at a standstill almost immediately
not really in



 No.426[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Just don't talk about gun control
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 No.2560

>>2555
>Flea Market Socialist
Based
AFAIK the SRA still doesn't have that kind of influence, unfortunately. The one gunshow I went to didn't really have any good deals, and from what I've heard, you're probably better off vising a gun store. Did have a fair selection though.

 No.2564

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVhBnX-LLw
Как спастись от американского тепловизора? ATN MARS 4 | How to fool a thermal scope

 No.2610

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 No.2776

asked in a different thread, but might not get seen so: i intend to complete my higher education, but after that, is it worthwhile to consider the military or at least go into military reserves? i doubt i can give myself a truly equivalent training or mindset and i cant see any other way to give myself adequate, if albeit in all likelihood unnecessary, preparation

 No.4070

>>437
>>What would happen if someone fired off an entire magazine of a Type 56 AK when engaged in combat in an enclosed space (interior of a cargo ship in this case) where no-one participating has hearing protection? Does everyone just go deaf from it?
Their ears would certainly be ringing

>>Is .38 special enough to stop a man in one shot? If not can you recommend a better revolver cartridge?

It can certainly kill in one shot if the bullet hits the heart or central nervous system

>any recommendation for operator gear for maximum operating for that period? Kevlar vest and tactical rig recs would be especially appreciated.

Ranger body armor vests for armor and these two items for rigs:
https://kommandopost.com/2023/03/18/us-navy-modified-vbss-vest-1984-early-1990s/

https://kommandopost.com/2023/03/17/modified-blackhawk-chest-rig-panel-late-1990s-early-2000s/



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 No.3151[Reply]

Thread for hating on the F-35 "Lightning II" stealth turkey a.k.a the most expensive military project in history to date.

The USAF declared it ready for service in 2016
As of that date the following problems I can list just off the top of my head
- Vulnerable to lightning; it's practically a lightning rod https://archive.is/QSIii
- 0 redundancies in the cyber or mechanical aggregates; any malfunction
- RADAR glitches means it literally ahs to be turned off and on again https://archive.ph/EEd9y
- Ejection seat is banned for anyone 136 pounds or below and anyone not above 150 pounds has significant injury risk, it literally can break your neck.
- F-35 helmets glow too brightly for air-to-air refueling https://archive.is/pKE0Y
- F-35 helmets are so heavy at nearly 5 kilograms so that maneuvers cause them to bang their heads on the inside of the cockpit https://archive.ph/WsRxA https://archive.ph/dE1gP
(keep in mind these helmets are 400,000 dollars each).
- The oxygen system is unreliable (something that the F-22 shares) https://archive.ph/kGGKq

The Plane was supposed to be ready by 2010-12 having been projected in the early 2000s
the list of problems in its past and that are remaining in various levels of urgency number over 800.
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 No.4040

>>3745
>>3744
>There are more F-35s!
<counts all F-35s produced including for other countries
By that metric we should count every MiG-29, Su-27 (and variants) and other classes of fighter and count them… Hell even just counting Su-27 variants from China, India and Russia already dwarfs the F-35 production line, let alone China's hundreds of other indigenous jets.

 No.4056

>>4032
>>N-no source becuz I sed so!
>>Everything is ad hominum!
Who are you quoting?

 No.4064

>>4040
>Hell even just counting Su-27 variants from China, India and Russia already dwarfs the F-35 production line,
Wow an obsolete 20 years + older aircraft that has a higher accident rate btw was more produced you say? Incredible zigger cope

 No.4066

>>4064
>>obsolete
it’s still blowing up new overpriced NATO dogshit and helping nazi hohols reach their space program so i wouldn’t call it obsolete :^)

 No.4068

>>4064
>Seething so hard that he can't write a proper sentence.
1 - by that metric the F-22 is obsolete too, and frankly so is the F-35 since it was originally developed over a decade ago. Age is also not a metric of effectiveness, the Su-25 continues to be effective as does the A-10. The F-15 Eagles is still a superb platform and is even older than the Su-27. The MiG-25 was only retired recently, and contended with the peak of American Engineering, including USAF fighters decades newer than itself while its variation the MiG-31 is still one of the most significant air to air threats to this day.
2 - The Su-27 does not in fact have a higher accident rate than the F-35, in fact its a very rugged plane that can take off and land in harsher conditions, has 2 engines in case of failure or damage to one, and so on. The F-35 is a plane that flies only due to its computer systems which aren't very reliable either.
3 - The production numbers for the original Su-27 and its variants, 680, the Su-30 and its variants, 630+, the Su-35 151+ airframes. All together that's over 1460 Su-27s produced, not counting Chinese Su-27 copies. There are 975+ F-35s of all variants built as of October of 2023 and many of the older ones are those produced prior to being accepted into service and are essentially defective units, not to mention that only 450 of those are actually in US service with a scattered handful in NATO operation, (a few dozen in Japanese and Israeli service for example) and the initial operation capability of those aircraft delivered is barely half, of the 46 received by the Netherlands in 2021, only 24 were capable of operating actively at the time, as the others needed adjustment… a critical issue for an aircraft that is supposed to be a fighter-bomber and the mainstay of Western airforces, not much of a mainstay when battle-readiness of a freshly delivered F-35 cannot be stated as 100% from the get-go.

So TL;DR: Cope more NAFOid.



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 No.4063[Reply]

Technically, would a 22. cartridge, hidden in a slightly bigger piece of jewelry,wrapped
in celophane sealed with etoxy and the whole thing painted gold ever be able to be discovered by any police means? This is only a hypothetical.


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 No.3549[Reply]

Picsrel (top to bottom):

>UAVs

>reconnaissance drones (these are quadcopter drones used for aerial filming that were disguised as toys)
>unmanned submarines that operate autonomously and navigate using GPS
>"ayyash" missiles (made from metal pipes leftover after the zionists got kicked out of Gaza, some warheads lifted from a WWI-era sunken British naval ship and a fuel engine w/ pumps that has a range of over 200km and can hit anywhere in Israel)

Is this the final intifada? Are they capble of ever standing a chance against Israel?
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 No.4012

>>3913
>Wrapping unguided rockets with aluminum foil will confuse the monopulse/mechanically steered active radar seeker inside Tamir interceptor missile of the Iron Dome. An engineer from Raytheon who helped develop Iron Dome stated this acts as chaff and decreases intercept probability.
This is the dumbest shit I ever read.

 No.4033

>>4012
I mean the original chaff used in WW2 was essentially metal strips being dropped by bombers to create false reflections in RADAR imageing, considering the limitations on RADAR size in a missile it would make sense for such a method to have some success.

 No.4045

>>4033
>I mean the original chaff used in WW2 was essentially metal strips being dropped by bombers to create false reflections in RADAR imageing, considering the limitations on RADAR size in a missile it would make sense for such a method to have some success
You basically answered yourself why adding tinfoil to the rocket is the most retarded thing ever.
Fixing chaff to a rocket just makes the target look bigger.

 No.4047

>>4045
You fail to understand what foil does to spoof low-power RADARs. It not only creates a RADAR profile, but distorts it, so that you can't actually get a good idea of the target's actual location or proximity, thus the Tamir missile seeker may 'think' that its on top of the target and detonate, when in fact it is ahead or behind the rocket, since the target is so imprecise.

Now again I'm just postulating this based on what I know about RADAR and chaff, so I could be wrong, but I wasn't the person that suggested foil as a method to begin with, I was only repeating a claim by a Raytheon engineer I heard of and thought interesting.

 No.4048

>>4047
>You fail to understand what foil does to spoof low-power RADARs. It not only creates a RADAR profile, but distorts it, so that you can't actually get a good idea of the target's actual location or proximity, thus the Tamir missile seeker may 'think' that its on top of the target and detonate, when in fact it is ahead or behind the rocket, since the target is so imprecise.
False for two reasons. Tinfoil doesn't distort radar that much and the Tamir uses a laser fuse together with the radar seeker at shortest range.

>Now again I'm just postulating this based on what I know about RADAR and chaff, so I could be wrong, but I wasn't the person that suggested foil as a method to begin with, I was only repeating a claim by a Raytheon engineer I heard of and thought interesting.

These rumors are lies in 99% of time and just cite authority to look more credible.



 No.1376[Reply]

Since tank warfare is a hot topic right now I'll drop some good tank vids.

First vid is a long one covering American tanker school.
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 No.3981

>>3975
> even though other forces in the Gulf War coalition, which used Soviet tanks of various models of their own
what countries are you talking about?

 No.3982

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>>3981
Kuwait had several M-84s during the war (A T-72 modification) which took part in Operation Desert Storm and Operation Desert Shield. It also had a large park of BMP-2s

Egypt has Ramses II (T-55 modernization), T-62 and BMP-1 which were involved in operations. The Egyptian army was the second-largest contingent of the allied forces.

Syria was also involved and had massive numbers of various types of T-72s, T-55s and T-62s. The 9th armored division was part of the Northern reserve.

Also UNIKOM (United Nations military enforcement) has a large park of Soviet military vehicles and was present in Iraq.

 No.3986

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>What do you think about the potential of hybrid or electric engines in tanks? I think it could significantly reduce noise and thermal signatures and you could also potentially generate the power in the field.
Diesel engines are probably the way to go. Hybrid engines are prone to breaking down over time because of the switch system constantly going on and off when starting/stopping. That said, a separate electric motor assembly that can be activated and run on accumulators would be a good third redundancy in case the main diesel engine and auxiliary diesel engine was knocked out or ran out of fuel and would be a good option for stealth ops at night, similar to how some DE submarines have separate electric motors to 'creep' under water and remain nearly soundless. Alternatively a multi-fuel turbine like the T-80s paired with a diesel alt and an electric-motor redundancy would be very useful, fast and economic.
Regardless, electric motors are definitely something to think about, even if hybrid ones would be a bad idea on an AFV.

Also before someone mentions Hydrogen fuel cells - they're violently explosive and unlike gas tanks which can be armored and filled with a "honeycomb" that reduces damage and likeliness of explosion, we currently lack good internalized protection of these cells. It would be useful, not needing to refuel for much longer, but then there's power-concerns and again reliance on the armor to protect such a weak point.

>inb4 Increasing complexity of technology used for war is inevitable

This always was balanced with logistics and education. When it wasn't what we got were the Tiger-tank and Panther, chock-full of technology yet breaking down constantly, being overweight and lacking a proper engine (instead using aviation engines) resulting in constant problems. The inability to repair in the field meant that most breakdowns or damages to the internals would force the tank to be sent back to the factory. The complexity also forced longer training times compared to the Panzer IV or T-34, so the human factor cannot be discounted as well.

People often misunderstand the meaning of Stalin's quote, "Quantity has a quality all its own" to mean "cheap massproduced shit can equal single craftsmanship" which in fact misses the point. Yes, Mass produced, simpler items that are available overshadow singular high-quality items, but more importantly, tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.3991

>>3986
Tank transmissions are complex, so replacing with two electric motors makes sense. Gas turbine electric is the way to go because you can creep around on battery power and then turn on the turbine for long range.

 No.4044

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The Пластун-СН is a small Russian all-terrain transport vehicle converted from a civilian vehicle. Recently popped onto the news because one of them was photographed destroyed and recently circulated the internet. From what I read and observed on its capabilities and role it appears similar, smaller version of the roofless MT-LB from the early 50s or the K-75 and GT-LB. However because its roughly half the size of the MT-LB I think its not the replacement that some news sources purport it to be.

- https://topwar.ru/231000-zarubezhnaja-pressa-zafiksirovana-pervaja-poterja-vs-rf-novoj-bronemashiny-plastun-sn.html
- https://www1.ru/news/2023/10/30/vezdexod-razvedcik-ili-ognevaia-platforma-cto-mozet-armeiskii-plastun-sn.html
- https://dzen.ru/a/ZULL7p_ZBlk3XUlq
- http://parm.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=498



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