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What does /dead/ make of Agamben's new book? It is a collection of his recent articles written about the pandemic.
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Is supporting the Green Pass a post-left position?


idk, ask a post-leftist


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you think everybody here is required to hold a certain ideology to post?


Yes. I had to send the admin my certificate. I thought that was standard procedure.

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Why does everyone always make fun of anarcho-primitivism? Is it actually as bad as people make it to be?
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Anarcho primitivism is communism minus dialectics (hence anarcho) and a distrust of technology (hence primitivism).


/leftypol/ tier post


>communism minus dialectics (hence anarcho)
damn,first time I read this here,I don't even know if I want to hear the logic behind it.


>These things are going to happen, whether we like it or not, bucko.
Can you tell me why you think that? Yes, of course, a major ecological catastrophe is right in front of us, but that doesn't mean the death of 7 billion people nor the end of agriculture and cities. It will be hard and people will die, but what you're saying is a bit exaggerated.

>Nice spook

Yes well perhaps I used a spooky word, what I was actually trying to say was that Heidegger's thinking and what is based on it is itself ideological, spooky and moralistic.

>Explain to me how Heidegger's critique of technology relates to fascism.

As an example:
Heidegger „held the Holocaust to be the logical result of the Jewish acceleration of technology, and thus blamed the Jewish genocide on its victims themselves“
di Cesare, Donatella (2018). Heidegger and the Jews: the Black notebooks


>that doesn't mean the death of 7 billion people
Neither does a return to hunter-gatherer or nomadic forms of living

>nor the end of agriculture and cities

They won't disappear, but ecological collapse will open up spaces for societies that make due without them, just like in ancient times the desert was a refuge for people seeking to escape the great cities like Ur.

>Heidegger's thinking and what is based on it is itself ideological, spooky and moralistic

Except it's not. Heidegger's whole philosophical career is a sustained critique of the hidden presuppositions behind our modern (i.e. capitalist) way of thinking.

>the Holocaust to be the logical result of the Jewish acceleration of technology

Strike the word "Jewish" and you end up with exactly what Adorno & Horkheimer said. I'm not disputing Heidegger's early sympathies with nazism, it's just that nothing in his philosophy is inherently fascist, in fact it's quite the opposite.

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Why does civilization take so long to collapse?
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americans arent white


es ist gut, deutscher zu sein


Ist sehr premium


what does that have to do with anything?
ppl who were under roman rule ended up under langobard or frankish rule or whatever. in these new conditions their way of life changed and was no longer roman.


> civilisation and mode of production arent the same thing.
Doesn't even matter, after the collapse of Rome their "productive forces" were left to rot. The only continuity is through the Church and that's dogshit.

They stopped living under Roman rule, and they liked it. This is not the first time this happened. Civilizations used to collapse all the time and the people living under their rule usually rejoiced. When "barbarians" invaded their civilizations, they welcomed them. That people living under someone's rule should like and defend their rulers was an innovation of the European liberals and nationalists centuries later.


Can you be an anarchist and a buiness owner?

Or am i approching Anarchism the wrong way but asking about what dosen't make an anarchist? I haven't done that much theory reading, but i've run into anarchist who disregard theory all together.
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Sorry it is written in the big book
> Ass is all perfect! Because, in each moment, ass is all it can be, and never need to be more.


Sewerage systems how build?


Tankies don't understand this because their small pseudointellectual brains can't comprehend recursion in a social solution:
throw it next door.


quoting the meme line thats always taken out of context by ego-liberals


tf is a ego-liberal?
and from what perspective is this written, ego-conservative?

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how do u deal with loneliness and poverty and no friends and depression and no future and nothing to look forward to
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how do u deal with:


just watch media at ALL TIME. seek ou a few podcasts and youtuoe/twitch streamers and just have them running in the background 24/7. you should put that content as your alarm clock and from your first waking second be listening to it. after a while, the people will feel like friends.


seeing as you have internet, you might wanna look into setting up online scams. otherwise steal old ladies' purses on the street.


numb yourself with substances. ppl can live years drinking alcohol everyday.

>no future

thats just wrong. everybody has a future. some ppl's future is just in jail or psychiatry


one millisecond at a time


Can't we all fight loneliness by posting on /dead/?


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that only makes it worse though


>how do u deal with loneliness and poverty
>no friends
I see…
drugs, healthy diet and exercise
>no future and nothing to look forward to
revolutionary optimism

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I thought endchan was going to be shut down.


end/dead/ BO here, you can create boards by making an account and making a board. Simple process really.


>5 posters
thats actually a lot considering that most of the users there are from lefty/dead/ and have really done nothing but rarely posting


another anarchist success story


in comparrison to /leftypol/ it clearly is.
not existing means not being shit.

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What does /dead/ think about this article by an anarchist?

Are we approaching a new state of consciousness? or is it just bullshit?
I think the writer doesnt really understand the book that well, since they seem to not get that the idea of non-conscious volition is thought to be itself a form of authoritarian repetition of outside will, which is basically what they say we're turning into with technology and modern epistemological fears.


It does not make much sense to me. The original thesis sounds doesn't sound really convincing, and applying it to our present situation does not seem to help us at all. I much prefer this article: https://www.e-flux.com/architecture/superhumanity/66877/engineering-self/


IIRC Jaynes seems to frame "consciousness" as being a bit too foundational to our psychology. What he discusses seems more along the lines of a theory of self, something contained within your language or your "software." Different modes of consicousness make more sense as a tool for interpreting the more fundamental drives and biological states we have. Moving into some new mode of consciousness or theory of self does make sense in theory if the mode of production is transforming.

I see where the article is going and sure it makes some important points about where people's heads are at right now, but I think that the change we're seeing now is a different one. The bicameralism-to-consciousness change is a change in theory of self, but the current breakdown is in our relationship not to ourselves but to the reality around us. We mostly have a sense of who we are, but the heuristic failure being described indicates a breakdown in our ability to trust information about the world. Many alternative interpretations of reality are competing for our acceptance, so perhaps the change to happen here would be in our ability to imagine a "multiverse" of different interpretations that different people believe in, and someone with the new mindset would be more adept at "traversing" across different "alternate realities" by internalizing and understanding different beliefs about the way the world is, without necessarily accepting those beliefs themselves.

The capacity to do this sort of thing is already apparent when it comes to fiction. People love to get engrossed in fictional realities and to develop an understanding of some comic book universe and so on. The same kind of obsession with "lore" can be applied to the real world (as we see with people like history nerds), but also to the different political and social theories that compete with each other. Maybe in a similar way to the fiction Jaynes was using as a reference point to explore a change in psychology, contemporary fiction can tell us something about where people's minds are going. The multiverse concept has become pretty popular in recent years in fairly mainstream movies and TV.


> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvUzdJSK4x8
Something to consider. I was watching this and they mention the bicameral mind at around 7:30. It is mentioned as a theory that posits that humanity needed a long historical development to reach consciousness. They claim the opposite, that (pre)history is best understood if we disregard the usual trope of the "stupid savage" living in blissful ignorance and assume that people in the past were aware of themselves and knew what they were doing.

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>ctrl+f music
&lt0 results.
ITT We post music.

Old Trees - Violent Resistance
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Plague Mass - Union of Egoists


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Came across this band recently, apparently they share some members with Iskra and Leper. Very good blackened crust.


Cant go wrong with bad brains


They have a nice dissociative sound


that show looks really fun

yeah it's pretty good


Why are the people on leftypol such utter porkified faggots? All these people literally think in the confines set by capitalists, they all suffer from capitalist realism, I think the reason so many worship the USSR is largely because it wasn’t that far from regular porky society
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I understood that you are making fun of reddit, that's why you should go back there.


the ussr existed for a few use after that though and ever moved any closer to their goal


how about you get the fuck off this board you authoritarian stalinoid bootlicking looser?
if you wanna sniff the farts of long dwad dictators go back to /leftypol/


Perceptive post.

A distraction from the matter at hand. The matter for discussion here isn't really the relative merits of the USSR, or of Marxism-Leninism versus Anarchism, or so on, it's about the pathology of latching onto these things, making them an identity, and then engaging in little ingroup-outgroup battles using them as a prop.

It's helpful to map this sort of thing onto sports. Yes, the Slurforindians have beaten the Slurforblacks in the world series and that's great, that's an objective sign they played the game better, etc. But you feel yourself part of a little group here - you see your team's victory as your own and it makes your own boring life feel more interesting, more exciting. You laugh in the faces of the other team, the losers, oh how they're hurting. But the thing is: you and them, you're the same. You didn't play the game, you didn't win anything, you're an observer rather than a participant in these events. But deep down inside the part of the monkey brain that once recognized your monkey gang had beaten the other monkey gang sees the ingroup fighting the outgroup and kicks into action.

People often warn that there's a skeleton inside you, but feed him milk and he will serve you well. The monkey inside you on the other hand is an eternal liability, he is a cheeky monkey, he wishes only to get up to monkey business and get you into trouble.


This is such a gay and dishonest strawman. No fucking shit they couldn't "just do" communism. What they could have done was opened up their productive forces to the Democratic will of the prolotarates. But you faggots have a power fetish so. >Muh heckin

Go back to Reddit fag.

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Give me some good shit to watch.
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do you guys have any good terrorwave/illegalist stuff to share?


Not the best place to ask but who cares
Does anyone have the onion link for the anarchist bookstore? I tried to access it but the link didn't work. Did they take it down? I think it is unlikely but asking just in case


whats the anarchist bookstore?



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Watched this talk, it was pretty entertaining.

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