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There is an assumption among some in the staff that the users here on /dead/ prefer for it to remain a secret board as opposed to a main board among the roster listed on the main page and top header.

Is this true? Let us know on this thread.
If the opposite were to be true, then we might consider putting the board on the main page up to a staff vote.
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>>6366
welcome to the club



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Welcome to /dead/, the endless magical nihilist gulag. This is not 8/grim/, but it is the continuation 8/grim/. Think of it as partly an /r9k/ for anti-capitalists, partly /dprk/ with skeltals, and otherwise whatever you make of it.

Now in amazing Techni-nocolors!

Rules:
>1. Global rules apply
<2. Please keep /r9k/-tier & tfw no gf shitposts to one thread. Capitalism is only one of the many, many reasons why you don't have a gf.
>3. Meta posts belong in this thread
<4. This is a #SAFE space_ for anarkiddies and nihilists; cheka yr authoritarian privilege fam
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This board is dead

I crack myself up



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Any fellow legbutts here? As a transgender woman, it just seems incredibly hopeless to organize or do anything at all. Honestly, I mostly cling on out of spite. Between the chuds and the liberals, I just don't have any hope. I just don't think I'll ever live to see the time where I'm not treated like shit and forced into unemployment and lumpenness.



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You know the kind of guy: he gets into right-wing politics so he has an excuse to rape, torture and kill members of some out-group. He gets off to the power he holds over his victims, all while claiming to serve a higher purpose.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to attract these folks towards anarchism, rather than their power being used to further the goals of fascists?

The post-left has, compared to leftism, the unique property of amorality. This allows people with unorthodox desires and behaviors to contribute to the destruction of the state, society and civilization without necessitating the furtherance of authoritarian ideals.

Consider this. What if you could convince the sadist to accept his desires as a part of himself (his ownness, property, values, etc.), separate from an identity as a fascist prick? Instead of dominating minorities for the sake of some higher ideal, he would be free to pursue his desires as an individual.

For the sadist in question, the benefit is a more fulfilling domination of his victims. By taking them for himself, his domination is truly his; not in service to some ideologue, but true subjugation under his own power and will.

For everyone else, the benefit is simply another person to fight against the oppressive weight of contemporary capitalism and the state. That is, if you're willing to fight along side him.

So, if you knew that such a person was willing to fight against the oppressive structures you oppose, would you fight with him as a comrade? Would knowing that he is driven by a desire to rape, torture and kill prevent you from siding with him? If so, is it due to disgust, or perhaps a lingering sense of morality?

This is something that I think is important to consider, but naturally isn't often found in anarchist discussion. I suspect that such sadists account for a not-insignificant portion of genuine fascists. If they see anarchism as a way for them to be free with their desires, this may become a legitimate strategy for sowing chaos against the neoliberal/capitalist order.
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I wouldn't trust such a person. If their main interest is sadism, surely their commitment to any cause is suspect. Just as easily as they can attach themselves to fascism or anarchism, they can just go to the other, or choose other outlets for their urges, like organized crime. Either way, they are not the driving force of fascism, even if they are useful to it, nor is sadism itself the main goal of fascists.

>>6248
OP here. I agree that sadism and fascism aren't correlated as such, but I suspect that many of those that take initiative in regards to the oppression of certain groups are. The average MAGA retard is driven mostly by fear, and sometimes hatred, of specific groups. Your average neo-nazi terrorist, on the other hand, is driven mostly by hatred, and I believe often sadism.

Take for instance the O9A, a neo-nazi terrorist group who not only advocated for your standard nazi drivel, but also reportedly practiced routine sexual violence. According to the Counter Extremism Project, one of the O9A's publications titled "The Rape Anthology" called for followers to seek "spiritual arousal from violent sexual rape."

Additionally, the CVLT network is associated with nazism and is known for making and distributing child pornography, as well as convincing minors to commit self-harm.

As for whether or not these people could be trusted if they decided to fight against fascism and the neoliberal status quo, I think that showing them that they don't need to adopt spook of nazism in order to fulfill their desires will give them a sense of freedom that they would be unlikely to give away again.

I think that this freedom, particularly for a sadist, is a very powerful motivator to avoid the hierarchy imposed by fixed and external ideas.

I definitely respect the decision to not trust them, however, as most people are limited, for better or worse, by empathy, which makes them much more predictable. That's not really something you can expect from someone whose main driving force is sadistic pleasure.

>>6249
<Okay but what if the opposite is true
What if the antisocial, neonazi sadist is not really into fascism because he truly wants a fascist society of the historical kind, but already regards "fascism" as a spook? As an excuse to inflict suffering? In that sense they are true nihilists, not an ounce of positivity, pure negation of everything. I don't think more "institutional" right-wingers see much value in them except as thugs to their dirty work, or as boogiemen to scare the population into submitting to state surveillance. Anarchism is unlikely to appeal ever appeal to this kind of personality, even individualist anarchists tend to have some positive aims.

>>6250
I agree that they aren't of much use to the institutional right-wing of today, but seeing how contemporary American politics has been progressing, I wouldn't put anything past them.

As for the hypothetical nihilistic sadist who uses these neo-nazi groups for his own ends, the main benefits of individualist anarchism would be organizational and interpersonal. Insurrectionary anarchists have all but perfected the use of informal small affinity groups. This organizational model has the benefit of being very hard to track and infiltrate, which would definitely be useful to the sadist. While there's technically nothing stopping these groups from adopting such tactics themselves, it's unlikely that any of them would deviate from a hierarchical structure, judging by the authoritarian nature of their ideals. As for the interpersonal benefit, the sadist can be honest with themselves and others about the driving force behind their actions and relations, making for easier communication and longer-lasting relations.

But I'm a masochist and I'm an anarchist



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would you use it, or is /dead/ a sufficient space

>pic unrelated
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>>4211
Brennan got digusted by what happend to 8chan, so the moderation of new 420chan could be stricter.

>>4206
>coming soon…
I really enjoyed 420chan while it was around. Glad to see it's back

НУЛЬЧАН LIVES

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100% anarchy no exceptions, no retreat.

>>6408
Democracy? Autocracy? Who cares? Governments prevent a just society from being formed. If one person has more power over another, there will be an imbalance that can be prevented by anarchism



 

Hey everyone, my name is Alina, you can follow me on Twitter by searching for anarchsoul. My ideology is Anarcho-Egoism, Transhumanism. My philosophy is Pragmatism, Hedonism, and Progressivism.

Hello Alina, nice to meet you.

>>6381
Hi, Alina. I've got like 3 or 4 names but my friends call me Marcia. I'm god's weakest boymoder and I'd follow you if I didn't hate twitter. Boa sorte, mana

>>6381
Make a busky

Greetings, Alina.
I am Prof. Liene Palinka, the fictitious young scholar who dwells at the Daugava riverbed. I believe that authority and order prevents a just society, as all "ordered society" uses a hierarchy that prevents equality and unity. I am anarcho-individualist. Death to fascism.

>>6381
> AI pfp
> unironic anarcho-transhumanist
> hedonist
> 'kunin despite being an egoist(Rule 15, Soyjacks are spam.)



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no need to call 112 for a useless ambulance, i have already been brought to the dimension of the dead and unused by the oak tree overlords……..

my body is too empty, only l41m4 can fill it



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What is this place? meow.
meow. meow. meow.

Its the post-leftist goon cave



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i just realized that there is no point to being intellectually rigorous anymore. nobody cares. human beings do not concern themselves with truth. we are just selfish animals who love violence and imposing our will on whatever and whomever we can.

even if you do find some people who see through the madness and refuse to go along with it, you are completely ruled by the material reality and the enforcement of consensus from the masses and the ruling class. isolation is the only solution, but capitalism is like a predator that never sleeps, never stops, never rests. it comes for you eventually like death.

Life is a curse, not a gift.

>>6397
Real Engels on 'Socialism, Utopian and Scientific'.



 

For those who are unaware, left-communism is an umbrella term that emerged from the left-opposition in the 3rd International.

The left-communist term encompasses Italian Left-Communism – which is split between the ideas of the ICP and of the ICT –, what ever the fuck the zionist ICC is, Council Communism, the ideas of the Situationist International, and Communization Theory (which itself is split between the various interpretations of what communization is.)

Arguably, appelism (the ideas of Tiqqun and the Invisible Committee) can also be included but it seems like they are more focused on alienation rather than communism, at least that's the impression I got after finishing reading Bloom Theory. Also, their French counterparts are dicks.
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>>6387
Those who adhere to the ideas of the ICP are not councilist, as they still support unions. This can be illustrated with the (many) ICP('s) working with trade unions across their international branches. The meta party stuff you talk about, are you talking about the historical and formal party theory that they believe in?

Those who adhere to the ideas of Onorato Damen/ of the ICT are a lot more sympathetic to Council Communism, as they see the unions as mediators and suggest that ICT members should join these unions in order for them to create revolutionary groups which will break away from the unions and form a workers' council.

>>6389 (me)
However, both are still Leninist (forgot to finish my post).

>>6390
>However, [ICP and ICT] are still Leninist
How would you justify your claim in regards to the latter? From what I've seen they almost systematically replace Leninism with Luxemburgism / dutch-german leftcom influence. Isn't this what the whole falling out between Damen and Bordiga was about? It seems to entire hinge on (if I'm not missing something) Damenites believing Luxemburg was right vs Lenin on multiple areas and Bordigists, completely disagreeing, having to split, leading to PCInt (Damen) and ICP (Bordiga) in the 50s.

Left communism is too optimistic.

>>6392
The split between Damen and Bordiga was due to how they preferred to organize the party (with Damen wanting to retain Democratic Centralism while Bordiga wanted to abolish the voting system within the party, creating Organic Centralism) and which terms they used (e.g. Damen and co. defined the Soviet state as State Capitalist while Bordiga defined it as State Industrialist). Another difference between Damnites and Bordigists is the subject concerning the historical and formal party, a theory that had come up from the ICP which Damenites reject.

Here are some articles by Damen outlining why they split:
https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2011-01-21/amadeo-bordiga-beyond-the-myth-and-the-rhetoric-0
https://www.leftcom.org/en/articles/2014-10-13/you-can%E2%80%99t-build-the-party-playing-with-paradoxes

>>6389
I would like to correct my statement concerning the ICT's stance concerning unions as I have gottenit wrong due to fault memory. Damen, in "You Can’t Build the Party Playing with Paradoxes," states that:

"To this end the "Italian Left" aims to create with the permanent organisation of "factory groups", even in the midst of enormous difficulties, as training centres for ideological and political dissemination which become in fact vehicles for slogans critical of the unions. Factory groups solve the problem of contact with workers in the areas which are socially and politically the most sensitive to party propaganda, a prime and indispensable condition for a policy of recruiting new worker cadres on the basis of active militancy and revolutionary struggle."

Thus they do not suggest that ICT members infiltrate the unions and create workers' councils unlike what I said.



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