/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>6811
This post is why screenshots of posts on this site should be spread to other platforms whenever Leftypol wants to advertise about revolutionizing

interesting manifesto though rather long. a lot of these points seem very tied to south asian politics and hence it does not look beyond the horizon within which trans rights are still threatened even after marriage legalization. if there is a problem with this focus, it isn't that marriage rights are useless or that they should not be advocated for (indeed there are as you point out important material reasons for which this is something to secure). the problem is that marriage presents a very limited collective existence. you are correct in dismissing intersectionalist subversivists that are not interested in policies that would actually give trans people any real determinate agency, but you should plan further beyond just this

a conclusion which ive come to is that a fundamental issue of all hitherto forms of organizd struggle has been a lack of consciousness concerning the means with which any revolutionary apparatus is capable of reproducing themselves. you can only perform strikes as long as you are able to afford food and rent. moreover without any actual ownership of the means of production, there is ergo no control over ideological apparatuses, hence the framing of any organized struggle will always be designed by bourgeois hegemony

in order to have true leverage over society then, a movement needs genuine ownership of production to the point that in times of crisis the movement is able to largely reproduce itself in isolation from the greater economy. this ownership can not be something that can be gained immediately, as such behaviour will provoke immediate bourgeois retaliation. we must gain power immanently to the bourgeois system, in order to ultimately negate it. this is why i suggest the proper way forward will be a federation of cooperatives. it can be stratified over different administrative levels (the lowest of which is the cooperative itself) and at each stage there are elected representatives. i am also thinking at different levels there can be other parallel forms of political organization for instance guilds in order to better represent different spheres of production in the organization of how resources are moved internally to the federation.

key priorities will be securing supply lines and funds for hrt and surgeries

you do not seem to be coming from a western context so i am not sure to what extent the strategy i am suggesting is very feasible for you. we have plenty of white transhumanist laborPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6871
> the issue with your strategy (at least taken universally and applied to the west) is that it will just be used by the ruling class as a pretext for sending us all to asylums.

I'm not the original OP. I'm not interested in collaborating with the labor aristocracy and IMO riots are undisciplined and pretty useless. I want straightforwardly to combine protest and draining money from the state (particularly the cops). Blocking a road is what I'm thinking about, not riots. We don't have near enough people to organize riots.

>>6881
>I'm not interested in
and what is the substance of this disinterest? maybe lenin and mao should have just concluded that they weren't interested in collaborating with the peasantry or national bourgeois despite the indisputable strategic advantages that came with securing the support of even just the peasantry

you want, straightforwardly, to do such and such while ignoring that what you are suggesting is both weaker and more impotent than failed strategies of the past (as events such as '68 also featured the disruption of capital), but would also be performed against a bourgeois surveillance state that is even more powerful than before

maybe to add something constructive to what you want to do, gathering information on the behaviour of law enforcement would be absolutely essential to avoid getting v-coded. you might also have to watch for the increase in law enforcement within a particular area that would inevitably result from these strategy requiring a guerilla sort of strategy in which there are periods of disruption and retreat across a wide region and this disruption may not necessarily be coordinated to be simultaneous across this large region

>>6508
There you go. Epstein says sucking feminine penis isn't gay.
Eat shit Jason Unruhe

>>7894
So the rightists are just snowflakes trying to defend their """religion""". How ironic, considering how they think of the left (as a whole) as "snowflakes".

>>7895
I wouldn't use term such as "snowflakes" here, but my personal understanding of this situation is that this phenomenon is not based upon some grounded theories, talking points or related to any real information they may have read somewhere. It's a result of ages of right-wing voters consuming propaganda at a pace that's not possible to be digested properly through normal means - the subconscious reinterprets vague links and buzzwords into a coherent "gay men are pedos" message, while the conscious mind simply cannot process it. These people *can't* send you any credible statistics or articles that would back up their claims - because they don't exist. They've been hearing these claims for over 30 years and it's become an integral part of their internal meta-narrative. Their political viewpoints are now based *upon* the idea that LGBTQ+ people are the ultimate evil of the 21st century, not vice versa.

To put it simply, it's memetic warfare at it's finest.

>>7893
>becoming
It's been like this for decades.
All you have to do is bring up their support of the Epstein pedophile class (Trump, Elon, etc) and tell them to shut the fuck up. They are projecting.

>>7893
Nah Harry Hay, Guy Hocquenghem and a few other figures in gay liberation history were pedos or pedo advocates. So it doesn't entirely come from nowhere. Fucking libertines.

>>7898
Conservacucks are almost always Zionists

I swear every other thread I see on this board makes me a little more right wing just because of the stupid retardation of chronically online lgbt culture. It honestly makes you wonder if its some kind of psyop. There needs to be some god damn quality control on this board.

>>7883
lots of words to justify being an annoying terminally online autist

i really really like all the braindead discourse middle class queer people, including other trans people, have every day while more and more laws to get trans people killed pass

>>7886

Claudia Sheinbaum won't let me carry a big iron

>>7862
>i dont know what the obsession is with comparing male puberty with rape
Find batter alter friends? Where is there a place that does this,
>reenter the real world where most people would disassociate themselves from you for comparing puberty to rape
do you need Police action?
>its like all things that happened to trans women that they personally disliked must be compared and powerscaled and being willing to make light of rape clearly isnt a sign of being so solipsistic that they have no empathy for women who were raped or abused.
I don't know if this is a organization or something but someone who makes light of that is asking for serious trouble, and thinks they're going to find like minded people and they probably will, in a bad way.

I don't really know too much on how diffrent women handle abuse, and i don't want to talk about it because it hurts me, maybe someday i can use the power i have to help them.

>notice how i did not put "cis" before the second mention of women because they also despise and wish harm on trans women who disagree with them
I'll send a wellness check. The trans-person and woman "of tomorrow" can defend themselves pretty well, now thanks to the gods.

Ernest: "Lex Luthor".
Ray: "Mister Mxyptlk".
Jake: "Two-Face".
Steve: "Clemente Carpe".
Bundy: "General Zod".
Mike: "Tiger Shark".
Ellen: "Sofia Maria Gigante".
Diane: "Harley Quinn".
David: "The Joker".
Jack: "Lord Death Man".
Charles: "The Riddler".

The Tale of the Matrix:

"Switch": The understanding of Tank and Dozer, as mathematics..
"Morpheus": Switch's pimp, dumped out of "The Matrix" as a vice offender.
"Trinity": A prostitute, lured in by Morpheus; the selection of Jesus, as "Christ"; not choosing "Mary Magdelene", Prussian Blue, as a prostitute.
"Cypher": The understanding of Cypher, Mouser, and Neo, as Trinity's choices. The jump inside "The Matrix", to dump; an NSA.
"Agent Smith": Cypher's defeat; moving out of Agent Smith, after an assist jump, while inside "The Matrix"; to save "Morpheus".

>>7857
i will have relatively healthy kidneys by avoiding meds and alcohol except for the occasional rakia (because beer is kind of over-commercialised and rakia gives a harder kick)

>>7858
Rakia and rakia based drinks are really nice. This is my fav

>>7859
Mmmm yum yum- *smacks myself*
I love all rakia though

>>7860
Me too I never say no to rakia. I wish I had some now but I only have scotch and beer tonight.

>>7861
Oh. I feel like most beer tastes like dog piss and whiskey tastes like cheap petrol from an ecocidal multinational corporation. Rakija just has a subtle fruity taste

>>7803
listen, in my culture™ we used to take pretty boys to the forest and fuck them in beautiful outdoors, like men are supposed to

>>7798
Nambla was Trotskyist lol.

why are people arguing about terminology like this at a time where trans people are actively losing basic legal rights and incinerators are being built in the concentration camps

genuinely tf is wrong with you

Sorry maybe I should not have taken twitter slop drama to this board, I infected it with twitter hitler particles.

the US is advancing their policy of extermination via medical experimentation on their transgender prisoners (which does and will include anyone on mones who's caught up in anti fascist actions)

is now the time?

>>7766
I just want to make you feel bad about being homosexual but I can't come up with anything that's related to the thread's theme… Help me smart guy

>>7768
That's pretty mean… You could just stick with the classics and call me a faggot or something

>>7619
trvke as well
they just want to be feminine gay bois (which they view trans women as)

>>7802
The average stereotypical homosexual is far more feminine than the average transhumanist.

>>7658
Women have the same flaws. Your impression of women is purely ideation.

>>7649

internalized? or normal?

Isn't it also more common for Trans Women to be bisexual too than cis women? Statistically speaking 18.9% of Trans Women are bisexual compared to 5% of Women as a whole, and from my personal every Trans Women I know is bi and two of them are literally dating each other.

>>7489
Every fucking normalfag meme on the vein of OP's feels like this.

>>7506
>4b. Why can’t trans women be into “Guns, mechas, engineering, combat sports”? Why must we ghettoize our interests and indulge in vain self-denial and artifice to try and convince ourselves that there’s some kind of woman organ, a cluster of girl neurons, a female soul hiding somewhere in our brain? Why must we contribute to the many millennia long project of sexually ghettoizing humanity?



Everyone intuits another person's gender with social markers. If you want to destroy gender o algo, why transition?

>>7573
>https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/researchers-reaffirm-famed-ancient-viking-warrior-was-biologically-female-180971541/

We wuz vikings and shit

>A liberal reductionist view of SOCIAL RELATIONS. Marxian sociology is focused on revealing the historical political economy which forms the material base, underneath the idealist superstructure of gender ideologies of "culture" (a German word that describes plants btw). Our socialization is in response to economic needs and desires for survival, and to thrive once our basic needs are met

Capital breaks down culture and social conditions. Holy fucking shit you progressoids are actual bourgeois shills larping as Marxists.

boys will be boys

>>7200

Why you so angry uygha, we're obviously talking about online spaces because we're in a literal online space.

>>7201

it was probably because of the massive map

i wish one day we could see a generative Fallout game like Starfield did, like have some places in the story stay the same but then have lots of fucking desert you can get through in a car or a fucking Vertibird, would be great for modders to fill the empty land which is the main attractive of literally every Beth game.

>>7204
you could include gta-style 'ghost cars' and other fun easter eggs desu

>>7206

a ghost vertibird would be scary af

>>7029
try not being terminally online for starters. at this point i just hang out with normal people because at least most of them have a live and let live you do you approach to queerness whereas every component of the queer "community" including our own has formulated exotic and exquisite ways to hate us

bumping to prevent another general.

>>819
We need a gay misandrist general

reminder