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Might as well ask the queer community because they've thought about this more than I ever will.

I think the gender binary (and coping mechanisms like a gender spectrum) is nonsense, and the concept of gender whatsoever is increasingly obsolete in society. I have no problem with all the coping mechanisms people have for reconciling themselves with our society's dumbassery, I'm not a prefigurative idealist, but if asked to make a choice, I consider myself non-binary. This is purely a political stance, outwardly I fit neatly into the 'cis man' label and that has about 0 affect on my mindset and life. I face no societal oppression for my sex, sexuality or gender so I'm effectively only involved in the queer movement in solidarity, rather than being a part of a queer community.

What is a succinct way to sketch this position to people? Postgenderism? Gender abolitionism? I definitely want to avoid using the wrong words and having people mistaking my position for "gender critical" bigotry.

i have always found gender to be such an obtuse thing; you will see things like "gender is how you present yourself" but run into contradictory perspectives like "clothes aren't gendered" or "body types aren't gendered", and it really waters down what is actually trying to be articulated by the word. i don't really think it's pointing to any one thing at all; trying to think about how i perceive gender as a concept with for instance my trans friends and it's like we're in a whole different fucking universe.
language kinda fucking sucks none of this shit actually makes any sense i think. i consider myself a gender abolitionist but even that is like fuckin, not even really true? in a way? i really don't even try to talk about it anymore with people because it's just so alien to most people, even most queer people

The world you are looking for is "privileged". As a cis man you have the luxury to be dismissive about gender as your own identity is based on the "default", the unsaid assumption, the general reference point to which everything everything else is compared. You can call yourself whatever you like, as it has zero consequences. The very real, evidently intensifying struggles that queer people face will not go away just because some cis man on leftypol.org considers themselves to be above the concept of gender.

>>1340
>misgendering
ok grace

>>1340
>The very real, evidently intensifying struggles that queer people face will not go away just because some cis man on leftypol.org considers themselves to be above the concept of gender.
It literally will. OP clearly detailed how this will happen with more than enough citations and references to peer-reviewed journals. Read Marx.



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Straight friends can be so cruel sometimes, I have a straight friend who always jokes flirtly with me, I find him super hot and with high sex appeal but I know I have no chance of every sucking his cock hut he does that anyway because he wants just to inflate his ego with my compliments and flirting
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>>1188
> just look at any locker room
never been in one. sounds dreadful tbqh

dang, sorry ur going through it

wish I were ace so I could do stuff with my gay homies & not think much of it

>>1154
I hate anal I just wish I could suck his cock but I know it will never happen and he'll just keep torturing me with his teases to fish compliments :')

>>1148
>Is not like that
Talk to any bi person. You are wrong.

>>1186
>>1188
Straight women do the same

>>1121
Dont act like your kind are that innocent
I see a lot of gay dudes being low-key flirting with each other and their straight friends.

>>1155
Adoration is better than sex.
Prove me wrong.



 

What you think are the odds of the Trump Regime attacking World Pride in DC? They started encouraging local police to raid gay bars as evidence last night (May 2nd)



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Is it misogynistic/lesbophobic if I want to see my girlfriend have sex with another woman but would absolutely hate it of she did it with another man?
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It is hard to be upset at you partner for having sex with someone you would like to have sex with. Would be very hypocritical.

>>1135
youre just jelly i did your dad first before you

>>1107
No that’s called being straight.

>>1107
Tbf women are - for the most part - cuter than men so I can't blame you too much.
Also sauce on the horse?

>>1124
>that + sign on the priest
Perfect OC, arigato-domo Anon

>>1177
wonder woman



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transitioning is so absurdly hard that you've got to be a grade A moron to get far enough to have any actual changes to your body if you aren't actually trans. any "detransitioner" who got that far is either a victim of conversion therapy or one of the dumbest humans alive.
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just be yourself

>>1118
Don't most detransitioners end up retransitioning at some later point?
Admittedly I have heard the largest regret rates are among ftm who started in adolescence. Seems testosterone takes effect more immediately and in lesser amounts.

>>1131
IIRC there was some survey done in the UK I think with a sample size of a few thousand trans people, and the overwhelming majority of people who detransitioned did so for external reasons. Like family pressure, political reasons, lack of access to healthcare, etc. I've known people in the UK who have emmigrated to other countries specifically because its so hard to receive trans healthcare. The NHS themselves admit that the waiting list for a mere consultation for trans healthcare is in the range of like 5-10 years at many clinics, and temporarily detransitioning because of that is not uncommon. What is uncommon for detransition is the cited reason being that it wasn't for them, ie they decided they were cis.

>>1134
>Like family pressure, political reasons, lack of access to healthcare, etc
>What is uncommon for detransition is the cited reason being that it wasn't for them, ie they decided they were cis
Pretty much. When they detransition is because of some external pressure, even if it's something as simple as inability to access healthcare - like hormones or surgery.
Feel bad for trans people in the UK, ever since capitalists decided to scape-goat them things have been getting that much harder for them. Petty little island with delusions of grandeur and masculinity, this shrieking over transwomen will get them nothing.

>>1118
Gender is such a nebulous and wishy washy thing that I really don't blame them. Especially nowadays where gender roles get blurred more and more. Capitalism really is the destroyer of all traditions, even those that even today people believe are so profoundly in us that they are in a way, as essential a quality as anything else. As if wearing lipstick and skirts, and wearing pants and not wiping your ass are all contained in the sex chromosomes.
>All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.



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I don't attend pride (and usually protest it) because the police take part. But is it fundementally a bourgeois event? I mean, it was not founded by the bourgeois, just co-opted by them. It is just like any other folk festival.

But in the end it is impossible to defend it and say it is not bourgeois. It is clear whenever you attend that it does not represent all queer people. It represents the petit-bourgeois, financially secure gays and lesbians, and old trans people. The very essense of pride has become firmly bourgeois. I probably would not go even without my political objections to it, because I can't really relate to that kind of display.

Of course, this was not by accident. I highly recommend K. Murali's book 'Of Concepts and Methods', in which some of the essays / chapters go into detail on identity politics. The fact is, every single non-class based movement will eventually be co-opted into capitalism. This is because capitalism is the perfect class system. All it needs is capitalist and proletarian, it does not need any of the small classes and sects previous systems did. They didn't need to persecute gays, so they stopped doing so.

This is precisely why the communists should organize with these social minority groups. If we do not organize them, the bourgeois will integrate them. We need to get to them first and prove we can be the ones who solve their issues, not the class enemy. The Communist party needs to be the one leading the opressed social groups against the capitalists. If an active part is not taken to mobilize them, we are squandering resources. This will take the form of a democratic front. Identity politics? Well, certainly the democratic front will be organized around identity politics, and that's the whole point. This is the way of organizing marginalized groups whilst keeping the party, and class struggle, central.

Therefore, we need to set up an anti-pride, a communist party front group pride.
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>>9
like most anti-capitalist/anti-status quo movements, it is eventually integrated by the bourgeoisie into supporting what it should be going against. Pride parades support the bourgeois status quo, therefore we should oppose pride parades while allying with queer groups.

>>784
How is that anarchist? Democratic fronts are not new concepts, it is an ML thing.

>>781
Yes. Probably nothing.

>>9 Pride, revolutionary, identity politics, lib bourgeois.

Whatever benefit identity politics as a blanket term may have had in the past it has been ruined by the last decade of lib cringe in mainstream media.

smth smth It's dialectical.

ok in seriousness, the way that idpol has been carried out as so far, is bourgeois, it is a liberal Thing. Of course, liberals aren't wrong about *everything*, LGBTQ+ people need their rights. But the liberal way of carrying it out is shit. The protection of the LGBTQ legally (this goes for all marginalized groups) kind of pre-supposes the oppression of said group. My general philosophy is that the emancipation of all oppressed groups cannot happen until the workers are emancipated



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>what's happening dork
-what do you want commie
>this is him guys, this is the facsist i told you about
>haha what a stupid facsist
>conservative dork
-i'm not conservative i'm altright, not like you and your stupid friends will understand
>the only thing i understand is my mao little red book, unfortunatly your mom is borrowing it from me
-you know you're a bully commies
>maybe if you stopped sharing pragerU videos and doing ok handsigns like a dork you won't be bullied for it
-screw you!
>screw me? why? do you like me? i thought you hated gays
-you know what i meant
>haaa! haaa! concervatard is gayyy, concervatard is gayyy
-BACK OFF Dumb SJW Soyboy bully!
>you know we were planning to give you a swirlie and hide your screams with the automated voice of bernie sanders but since you acted in the closet, why don't we pull you out!
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>>37
it's only manly and based when you cum in his ass

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>>668
yeah i have actually what about it

>>791
post some for us fagGODS

>>16
>racist balls
peak literature
<leftist is the bottom
nvm literally unreadable

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>>824
somone should write a sequel dedicated to leftists cleaning his racist fash bussy in the gym showers as tops



 

Hey gays, straight tourist here.

Why do gay men like musical theater? Why is musical theatre so popular within the LGBT community? From the high school theater club to hollywood LGBT are disproportionately represented in the arts?

Bro, I dunno. I think it's biological
Because I don't understand why straight men like things they like and do things they want
All I know is what I like what I like

Liberal idealists are like:
<"why do Ukrainian immigrants love doing low paid babysitting jobs? Why do they disproportionately choose to be caregivers?"
They do not!

A historical materialist look at political economy will show that NATO finance imperialists sent them into abject poverty to be the servants of nazis. Similarly the gays/Jews/etc struggling to survive on Broadway in the finance imperialist hive of New York City have also historically been excluded from other careers besides 'fascist settler minstrel show writer'. LGBT workers are only more prominent in art/culture industries due to their alienation from normal forms of labor

Everyone loves song and dance. Donald Trump is very queeny, and his Jan. 6th qanon cult literally made their own musical in prison. Every human is a creative worker, despite what hipster Apple computer consumers believe after absorbing neoliberal ideology. They weirdly think you have to be a metrosexual gay to ever be successful in the so called "creative class" (corpo propaganda about how you are a special snowflake who doesn't need unionized protection like the WORKING class, bleak)

>>1100
> I think it's biological
google Kropotkin Mutual Aid evolution
Theatricality is a historically progressive evolutionary trait for everyone to have. All of humanity's stories before written language was invented needed to be memorized. The oral tradition of theater can use narratives to pass down and transmit wisdom to help the next generation grow their social consciousness. It might be that LGBT people have that trait for oral tradition more often, but I doubt evo-psych pseudoscience, being creative is the best adaptation humans have, why would only 5% of them have it?

>>893
Idk, why do heteros like cars, guns, beer and football so much??



 

In this thread all nihilistic arguments and thoughts will be deconstructed by facts and logic. Bad thoughts will be disproven by the science of dialectical materialism. /tttt/ brainworms will be dispelled by the spook busters. Your self-hate will turn into revolutionary self-assurance. Try to tell me how 'over' it is for you, and I will prove you wrong. Any repressors or boymoders feel free to say how bad things are and I will tell you how you are incorrect. This is the idea of positive brainwashing, removing the reactionary brainworms and replacing them with better things. But the most important work comes from you yourself, I know you can get out of this rut, I believe in you!
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>>1084
My health is great, I do lots of exercise and martial arts so I guess thats to be expected. My apetite has always been massive, I'm vegan so I just kind of eat how much I want and I stay slim. Idk I'm worried I might be gaining weight which would make sense because of oestrogen, but when I weighed myself I'm only a little bit heavier than I was last time I tried as a teenager and its healthy. Mood has improved massively but I think thats mainly other reasons and isn't to do with hormones. I got into a much happier social situation and I guess I grew up. Generally I'm really energetic and positive, though I do struggle sleeping sometimes, and I wake up very early in the night at times with no way for me to go back to sleep. As for the feminising effects I am very happy with them. I wasn't getting anything on oral + bicalumatide, and in fact I think it was making my hormones dangerously low. I hope that helped!

>>1094
Thank you! A lot of this is also heavily dependent on personal lifestyle and genetic factors, but your perspective on the matter currently makes the most sense to me.

>>1075
>what kind of resources?
Idk… like, I wanted to say basically what you said but
the first part would have come across as transphobic and the second as dismissive. Plus I am not an expert in left political philosophy so I don't know how connect it whith that.

What are you doing here (as I see) is kind of social-work psychological-help so something about that? And more specifically in relation to transgender care?
I just don't want to do more harm then help. Maybe it's just my anxiety.

I will look for it tomorrow and post it here, is it ok? Would be cool to have a list of resources at the head in the future, no?

>>892
Yeah, what S in the >>1075 said

I said in siberia that this site doesn't need an /lgbt/ board but I had a feeling that the mods would, in the end, make this ill-advised decision. As a member of the working-class some may call queer, I am dissapointed by this thread, this board, and yet again this website. This is not an expression of nihilism. It is the negative identity, the lumpenproletarization, imposed on us by the ruling class that is nihilistic. Why would I aim to define myself on their terms? Do not forget the dialectical part of dialectical materialism which urges us to move beyond LGBT and leave the rainbow ghetto behind. All I see is here is the expressed desire to do the opposite.

>>1099
well, as long as leftypol has the opposite views of the sharty then having a /lgbt/ board is worth it in my opinion.
>It is the negative identity, the lumpenproletarization, imposed on us by the ruling class.
>Why would I aim to define myself on their terms?
is the rulling class in the thread with us right now?



 

hey guys I've been boymodinh for 7 years how bout u

also do u have any mental illnesses
it's interesting how like trauma makes you have some mental illnesses that look similar but are just different from the version that ur actually born with

my psychologist thinks I havebcptsd and bpd blehhhhhh

like 6.5 years on and off boymoding here post hrt
I'm just too tired to do anything more

>>748
oh yea I've been told variously I have bpd, bdd, autism, ADHD, bipolar, PTSD
but like half of those have been withdrawn or are ""in remission"" or basically invented



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