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Queer label discourse is so stupid why do people put so much importance on labels, especially the fact they don’t mean anything. Plenty of cis people use the trans label, a lot of bi women call themselves lesbians, many straight men also sleep with guys like labels unironically mean nothing. I saw this discourse about whether lesbianism includes people who aren't women or people who are attracted to men, like 😭 okay, why are people even spending their life energy arguing this stuff, like online people talk a lot of shit they don't stand on in real life and they can argue all day about that online but what really matters it what occurs IRL.
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>>2513
They actually had that option? That is amazing, straights are miles behind on this, they are only now implementing height filters.

>>2512
Why not other things too? Maybe I want to fuck a dominant vegan maoist, and directly asking everyone I match with whether they are dominant vegan maoist is awkward.

>>2429
Narcissism. Its a surrogate for religion, which post-Stonewall queers are apparently allergic to. The labels never meant anything objective to begin with. They were always flawed and fake. Human sexuality is too polymorphous and fluid to ever be nailed down to labels. But people have built identities, communities, marriages, mythistory on labels. We subconsciously acknowledge they are fake, but we keep up the pretense because the reality of fluid sexuality is too mentally disturbing. Since queers are fanatically anti-religious fundamentalists, they have replaced Christianity with their own theological structure. Interpreting one's self and debating identity labels instead of interpreting scripture and doing theology. Its the classic secular thing of trying to plug the spiritual hole that they created by destroying religion in the first place.

One day, I hope we can reach a world without these labels.

>>2510
socializing on the internet at all requires clear personal labels tbh
being mysterious doesnt get u far online

>>2517
>being mysterious doesnt get u far online
this was definitely not the case 10-20 years ago oti

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>>2429
I feel like there is nothing more meaning less than the lesbian label right now.


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Would /lgbt/ appreciate completely fake dogboy slop? Wanna test my creative writing skillz.

Also there isn't really a dedicated fagslop thread, for shame.
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Go off post that dogboy vagina hammering a chickengirl cloaca slop. 🔥🔥🔥

Dogboys are best boys so slop away.

>>2525
What's a dogboy, is this like puppy play? But sure go for it sounds cool

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>>2525
Eagerly awaiting for OP to drop his written kibble on us, provided it isn't AI-kibble that is.

>>2717
Rest assured, you'll know it's human-made because I can't write greentexts for shit. Thank you for the visual motivation. It goes a long way when my pace is 2 words per hour, gomenasorry

>>2532
Actual gemmy story ideas need not apply.


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Taken from some retarded radlib zine going around.

Other than how stupid moralizing consumption generally is (you could use this argument for all medicine - sorry, lil Billy, but we're gonna have to take that epipen until we can find an ethical solution!), I love the blood and soil nationalism but wokely shit. Hell I actually even agree with the basic premise that yes individual trans people will have to make sacrifices for greater liberation and I also agree with their criticisms of the healthcare system (one reason I DIY), but the conclusions they draw are just so fucking vapid.

<Many settler trans people, myself included
Lmao.
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>>2588
Utopian bullshit like this was literally the reason that Leftypol was founded. I remember back when people like this were called out as the bad actors they are. Sad that Leftypol lost its way and you now have people unironically shilling Settlers.
>>2611
>>2616
Whoever wrote that zine is probably a Fed like Sakai.

Such a shame zines in the modern day are almost exclusively Reddit shit.

>>2588
The retarded guilt-tripping and "settlerism" aside, it's hilarious how the writer managed to insert nationalism somehow inside this: "the medical system in Thailand has pivoted to prioritise Thai patients!"

Much of the talk about healthcare from leftards (especially turd worlders) is essentially a thinly veiled nationalism. They have nothing to say about bourgeois society, they are just resentful that places like Mexico, Turkey, etc are popular medical destinations for "foreigners".

>>2588
>Hell I actually even agree with the basic premise that yes individual trans people will have to make sacrifices for greater liberation
yeah im not delusional enough to pretend there wont be issues with supply lines etc during a revolution and having to temporarily go off HRT in such a scenario like the revolution wont be a souped up student protest but the zine is still stupid larpy nonsense not proposing anything remotely revolutionary

>>2589
I love zines… From the 80s and 60s. It was like the pre-internet of underground message boards


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I probably shouldn’t be looking for advice on leftypol, I don’t know if I am even supposed to be on here in the first place because I am confused if leftypol is 18+ like 4chan or not, but I’m here anyways:

>Minor
>Come out to mom
>She’s accepting
>We talk about it and she’s willing to pay for my HRT
>Healthcare in my area is abysmal
>Schedule an appointment but the wait time is rather long
>Talk to her about it and ask if she would be ok with me DIYing and a fight starts over it
>She isn’t willing to pay for DIY

Like what exactly am I supposed to do? Because I don’t exactly want to transition late and I feel the more I wait the more I will regret not starting earlier. How am I gonna afford HRT? Do I just continue going medical? I don’t really want to. Should I try to convince her?? Should I get her to cancel the appointment? If so what would the excuse be?
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>>2699
I mean I talked to her about how most trans people do DIY which she said that’s because they all live in 3rd world countries or have unaccepting parents (lol), but I didn’t tell her about how most DIY isn’t homebrew and from actual pharmaceutical manufacturers. I also told her about how there are trusted sites for ts (like diyhrt.info, hrtcafe.net, etc.) but she just replied “Well the internet isn’t trustable!” (???). Which is silly because these are entire groups of people vouching.

>>2702
dont say DIY and simply say buying hormones off the counter

>>2703
I stated it as “buying HRT via the internet”, I should tell her that it commonly is just shipping HRT from foreign pharmaceutical manufacturers (I believe a lot comes from India?), I don’t know how to start that conversation, and I am worried she will just dismiss the conversation.

Look into monotherapy >>12
You should be able to get estradiol injections for a low price ($6-12 per month). Getting the cryptocurrency to pay homebrew vendors is tricky though, i don't know how far you can get as a minor.

>>2697
Yet, when people start having existential crisis over their looks in their late twenties, you encourage them to transition even though they were fine and dont need to do it.


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• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

See following post for a pharmacy list.

Survey: https://1drv.ms/xs/s!AudRJceTA5C9c2G5lCV2Avq0kQ0
▶ Survey data: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AudRJceTA5C9cyIWo6_X14AvHyM
▶ HRTGen Data Analysis: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gRLLWnbpdzlIxe4r
▶ HRT Info Sheets: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gQnyM7wxZcBGWRzW
▶ Pill ID: https://www.drugs.com/imprints.php
▶ DrugBank: https://www.drugbank.com/
▶ Basic HRT: https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_MTF.pdf
▶ HRT ranges: https://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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update the quickguide with actual citations to peer-reviewed sources so that we know it's safe to do this because of said sources. kthxbai.

How do HRT femboys go about getting their meds? Do they have to pretend to be trans or enby to get it? My bf was considering taking it.

finally a good fucking thread

>>2553
all enbies just call themselves that to steal resources from trans people, this is well known

>>2555
Actually trans people are a CIA psyop to deprive gay dudes of prime femboy material.


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>be on E for 5 years
>gets sexually harassed at work by being asked "have you had the surgery" and being stalked by lower rank coworker.
>talk to same rank level coworker about it.
>doesn't give a shit.
>then tells that same rank coworker that a cisfem heard his sexual discussion, and she told predator coworker to stop. Then predator-chan got all mad and said "what is her issue"
>Broski gasped for air like that was her daughter and was apauled that cissyf went through that.
<mfw sexual assault is okay to do to me because dik n ballz
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>>2535
What the hell is a tribbing bed? I think I get cockholster but tribbing bed?

Seems my little yoke upset the mods enough to remove it. How about you remove vent thread #10291329 instead?

>>2549
Someone who lays there with their legs spread so a pussy-haver can go to town. Much like cocksleeve it implies the bottom is more than willing.

>>2530
It's not acceptable that you were subject to intrusive questions like that and is disappointing that you didn't have solidarity from your co-workers.
Although it does not surprise me that your dignity is not respected.

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>>2551
Well with how common it is for trans people to be harassed at work, I am not surprised about it. Although my fear of going through SA again is terrifying, Like I complain about the signs of someone acting like a predator, and people are like "So what" and it happens again or worse I get killed.

>>2570
There isn't anything I can do but sending hugs


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Trying to put together a reading list for Queer Socialist Theory/ Trans Liberation.
While we agree that LGBTQ people should be free to live their lives under socialism, unfortunately this hasn't been the case for all socialist govs.
Past reactionary behaviours/ policies have also emerged in certain so-called Socialist orgs like the ACP who use the USSRs past homophobia to justify their bigotry.
As a result, I think it's important that we assemble resources to ensure that future/ existing parties, platforms and orgs don't repeat the same mistakes.

Any recs?

Quotes and examples of pro-LGBTQ policies in Socialist Govs are also welcome.
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>>1167
>-The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State by Engels.
Feminism is a mythological project built around an essentialized subject (“woman”) that has never existed as a coherent class. Engels wasn’t doing a heccin feminism. He was dismantling the family as a unit of private property and inheritance.

Read up on James Baldwin!
Look at American society from the lens of a queer person of color. The "gay MLK" as was known at the time

>>1166
>you cant take transgenderism as part of materialism since like 99% of the people reject bio-essentialism
<materialism
>essentialism
holy shit 😲😲😲😲😲

>>2546
when marx was talking about materialism he was talking about being a smug new atheist reactoid ok

Practical feminist politics in the modern day seems to be entirely based on deciding whether or not and/or how often you throw vag to the moids.


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too doomer to hang around reddit traaaanie's
too brown to hang around 4tran servers

where do sad dialectical transhumanists like me belong?

all my trans friends are too optimistic i need a place to doom
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>>2365
>go to 4trans for advice ig
>board in the absolute shitter
I mean I knew the board was bad before, but it seems after it came back from the hacking it's practically unusable.
Anyways any ftm here? I'd like to ask for advice.

>>2438
Ye the board feels very unmoderates, even more than before
My bf is ftm. Idk if I'm qualified for advice but I can ask him his opinion if you want

>>2462
It was always shit, I guess this is just the kick in the ass to fuck off and stay out.

I'd be grateful if you asked him a few things for me.
1. Any unforeseen health complications from HRT?
2. What'd you have liked for your male friends to have done when you began transitioning? Theoretical male friends, if he didn't have any starting out.

>>2506
>1
Acne
>2
He didn't understand the question

>>2518
Yeah acne's a bitch.
Sorry for the wording on my question, what I meant to ask was. Anything I can do to help him in the beginning of his transition?


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Ah, pride. That special place where I can go to get told to "unlearn my male socialisation" by a guy who figured out that putting he/they in his bio can score him pussy after I tell him that I don't want to hear his slam poetry recitation.
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>>2501
the fact that you are literally trying to deny what im calling you out for, openly, publicly, and for everyone to see with ledgers of each statement made is fucking gold.
I called you out for trying to make things a competition, and now you're crying out that you didn't mean what you said, that you didn't infer men weren't victims when you wanted to overtly create a special status as "THE" victim, shows the world how dishonest people of a certain ilk, your ilk, are.
If you really wanted to express an idea that "although men suffer immensely, women generally get the worst of it" - an idea that, although makes sense at first, collapses when you start arguing if being murdered in cold blood for essentially being ugly and poor and not having ovaries is any better or worse than being raped for being a woman. One gets to live, the other gets to have dignity - you would say it outright, not silently try to dismiss my concerns for the male sex.
Enjoy the hole as much as you're enjoying digging.

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>>2502

>"you wanted to overtly create a special status as "THE" victim"

no, you dumb faggot, the point was literally you claiming "men get shamed for being men >:("

you're the one that were trying to get into the victim role while i was actively avoiding the topic by condensing it and going back to the topic of violence

again, your attempt at threadjacking ends up failing miserably

put words in my mouth all you want, everyone knows you're just a salty faggot who tries to make every serious thread about your conflicted self.

>"you would say it outright, not silently try to dismiss my concerns for the male sex."

Woe you, middle class gayboy.

>>2503
>no, you dumb faggot, the point was literally you claiming "men get shamed for being men >:("
and the point is that you wanted to make it a competition. what I said is true, end of. Get out.

>>2504

Suure, it's a competition, and I won.

>>2491
Male socialisation by itself isn't abusive. It's the machismo imposed on boys that is.

Anyone who grew up in second and third world would see that girls would rough house and room just like boys do. Even if they like girly things.

>>2489
>>2490
As a general rule, anytime I say any article talking about male nature and it has a feminist/progressive author, it's gonna be shit.
They take the most comical stereotypes and try to essentialise it as male nature.

Irony is, when men behave the exact opposite of said stereotypes, these same authors will then complain about men not behaving like men.


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What's the explanation behind the fact hetero males represent over 90% of every crime and atrocity perpetrator?

How come almost everyone who's a homophobe, racist, misoginist, xenophobe and generally an antisocial hateful piece of shit an hetero male?

How come absolute majority of right wingers and general reactionary scum globally are hetero males?

How come hetero males are incapable of showing empathy, love, compassion, tenderness and any positive social emotion and interaction because apparently doing so is """gay""" (and for breeder moid, it's apparently worse than having terminal cancer)?

Is hetero male mentality and brain similar to that of a chimp? Is this why they're usually particularly vile, antisocial, unpleasant and violent creatures? Is segregation between them and women and queer men the only solution?

I took this pride month to wonder about such things. Are queers who treat hetero men nicely nothing but cucks?? I don't insult them directly but I make sure they know their presence is unpleasant whenever I'm forced to engage with one by being abrasive, short worded and harsh

I also don't tip hetero male waiters and deliveries(Neoliberal analysis is ultimately reactionary analysis )
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>>2419
Another curious thing is the fact at least half of male great scientists, invetors and thinkerers were queer such as Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Newton, Tesla…

Hetmoid truly are subhumans whose only purpose is to breed, and that can actually be done by our bi bros

oh my fucking god who cares, keep this shit to siberia you fucking retard

>>2422
They were straight guys with homo tendencies.
Also, heteroandrophobia based on that urban myth alone is just idpol.

Also. gay and bi are not innocent.
They're notorious for domestic abuse

>>2422
Alot of your male queer historical figures were also kinda misogynistic

i blame tiktok


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