/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>7910
Never took a social science course in your life, I take it?
Your claim that the social construction of (social) facts does not have social consequences falls at the first hurdle in that social facts are exactly only real in their (social) consequence. To put it in another way: women are not women because of any (sub)set of signifiers, but are women because of their treatment based on those signifiers.

If you struggle with this, I recommend re-reading Theses on Feuerbach until lightning strikes.

>>7910
> if gender is an abstract, a set of styles, aesthetics, and attitudes
Engels saw gender and family relations in the context of social relations with regards to capital formation.
>Meaning incels are right
scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, everytime lmao
>Here I am, a hetero normative male, and I am acknowledging you as a woman
<Women's work is generally unpaid or paid less than "men's work" and is not as highly valued as "men's work"
>What is this actually about for you?
zero historical materialism Christoid thinks his alienated goy cattle love being slaves and merely want his Elliot Rogers class of PMC eugenics farm managers to correctly milk the correct type of feminine commodities or male commodities.

>OP picrel is pointing out the idiocy of so called "progressives" falling for the grift that biology is immutable
>Threads discussion is instead about the influence of social constructs
Both of these are meaningful, but I really fucking wish people would talk more about the first one instead of always arguing for trans rights from the perspective that all the fascist narratives are true.

Twitter poisoning thread

>>7989
Are you manic?

1. Those two greentexts discuss the same topic: exactly the (im)mutability of "biology" (and other spooky concepts).
   
2. There is one (1) person regurgitating fashy narratives and they got two (2) replies, both negative.
   

>>7911
>Sapphire
sounds low-key clocky or like a stripper pseudonym

https://www.ncertbooks.guru/scientific-name-of-flowers/
>naively scrolls down the page
<"Clitoria: Clitoria ternatea"
<"Cocks comb: Celosia cristata"
its like that TikTok meme of someone looking around and seeing overly sexual names of things and being shocked

>>7912
Couldn't have said it better. Sounds like the name of a ghetto trans prostitute, unironically.

>>7223
Well, you've already gotten pushback on feminizing your current name, which is what I would've done, so my only other idea is to ask your parents what they would've named you had you been a girl. I know mine picked Zoe(y?)

>>7223
>worried Claire might be too much of a stereotypical transgirl name
>sees no problem with Vivian, literally one of the most well known transgirls in fiction
I think Claire is my personal favourite of the names you presented. Never really thought of it to be stereotypical.

>>7952
skill issue

>>7972

that's it i'm getting the sack

What the fuck did I just read?!?!

>>7980

a dream i had a couple weeks ago

>>7988
That’s no dream, it’s a drug trip

I found out I was bisexual when I had sex with a transvestite, but I have a strong preference for feminity hence trans inclusion, non trans men rarely look or act feminine so I'm basically straight and don't really identify with the LGBT culture although I sympathize.

i found out that i was bisexual when i fell in love with a boy in my high school, i never got to talk to him since he left the school and never returned

i'm bi - i still don't know how to process the fact that my sexual awakening was caused by a gay furry chiptune musician from the late 2000s/early 2010s

I'm cis and bisexual so there wasn't really a turning point but more of an escalation, from finding boy characters in cartoons cute when I was a kid, to finally making out with a dude in my early 20s.

I lied to myself about being straight for my entire life. I just kinda pushed the question of attraction to the same sex, or anybody trans, to the back of my mind. It's really easy for a man to do this if he's attracted to women, don't you think? Unless he couldn't get any and was desperate for any kind of romantic attention.

I read some post online one day where someone described the idea of being attracted to either some degree of femininity or masculinity and it just completely clicked. You can hide a part of yourself from others. Especially if it's not necessary for self expression. But hiding it from yourself? That doesn't work long term.

Islam?
Any religion (or ideology) that causes mass hysteria and the murder of people for merely showing a drawing without judgement does not deserve to exist. This is on top of >>7524

Muslims?
Plenty of nice people. Hope you get over your mania :)

>>7916
I figure that false equivalences like this are wheeled out to deflect criticism. While anti-woke soldiers do exist, not every critique of LGBT positions is equal to Sam Walsh level reaction.

There's an irony that Western queers are anti-normative, but when it comes to foreign sexual cultures they don't understand they are obsessed with asserting their moral superiority and imposing their own normativity onto them. LGBT is held up as a sort of end stage of queer history, the final model the whole world must evolve towards. Anything that doesn't align with it is branded reactionary or patriarchal or marginal. Why should they be dismissed as reactionary or regressive? This issue requires nuance because the critical context is omitted: the conquest of Islamic peoples by imperialism.

>The people looking for historical incarnations of themselves are missing the point though.
I'm really not interested in that, which is a problem by itself. What bugs me is why do historians of sexuality in the West (e.g. Foucualt) omit colonialism? LGBT identity was invented in the West, but how this construction was shaped by the project to heterosexualize Native Americans or colonize Algeria is simply never asked. All we get are "the British spread anti-gay laws" but no real concern for how gay culture was shaped by the reality of conquest e.g. the Arab Islamic East was often portrayed as a place of barbaric sexual perversion, as a safe haven for homosexuals, as a sex tourism destination for gay men in the 70s, as a place that needed to modernize through heterosexualization.

>>7920
>LGBT identity was invented in the West, but how this construction was shaped by the project to heterosexualize Native Americans or colonize Algeria is simply never asked.
Patriarchy has been the dominant mode of social reproduction in every sedentary society, most of the surviving tribal communities even, ever since it ostensibly spread during the neolithic in the form of sun worship. The fact colonialism forced western gender relations on non-western nations, and similar to christianity specifically utilized them to control and assimilate the local populace, today represents more a historical quirk than any real difference in sex relations.

Lgbt is the product of both lessened material pressure and sharpened cultural contradictions. A return towards "sane" sex roles or sex without gender is no longer possible, therefore anti-lgbt sentiment is a form of superstition. Materially it is entirely unsubstantiated and should only be endorsed tactically. Similarly, instead of advocating for a wholesale restoration of pre-colonial religion, any principled communist should seek to promote atheism instead.

idk but I secretly have a desire that a habibi will feminize me and make his wife. i'll wear a burqa and be submissive and obedient

>>7960
It must be hard to be gay over there
I wonder if they underground speakeasies/teahouses and stuff like back in the day in western countries to meet up
I would be afraid of using an app and matching with a homophobe who just wanted to beat me up
I live in Burgerland where almost everyone has mutiliated their dick (⋟﹏⋞)

>>7879
But when you're born, your parents would assign you into a set gender without your opinion because you haven't grasped the concept of gender yet. So they would canalise you into the gender of their choice. Girls get dolls and tutus. Boys get toy guns and footballs. Then school would also try to socialise kids into their "gender" with gendered sports and uniform expectations.
In short, the "there are only 2 genders" doctrine is a treat for rightists that we're going to have to eliminate

>>7521
The problem is that the underlying contradictions of capitalism/liberalism have polarized into two equally asinine extremes of anarchism and fascism which are really the same anarcho-fascism. I have no interest in a trans-inclusive anarcho-fascism. The trouble is that socialism does not have a driving mythology and all efforts at Sorelianism, God-building, cults of reason and so on have been extremely shit. I don't think there's anything wrong out of building a hero-cult of various "historically progressive" trade-unionists, communists, revolutionaries and so on of the past but it is true that a hero-cult is not enough.

I think it's fair to acknowledge the construction of the transsexual identity as simply incomplete at this point in time. There's no point pretending you have things worked out more than you do. We can point to a few heroes of the past and some mythology. But we just do not have a full transsexual identity at this point in time.

>>7904
one thing i think should be quickly pointed out is that by lumping in sorelianism in with god-building you are making the myth to be something far more ideal and reflective than it actually is
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2026-03-27-Between-Materialism-And-Aeonics.html
<Not only should we support other cooperatives and movements, but we should mount up alternate temporalities within ourselves. Each locality of the greater federation should be taught self-initiative in order to facilitate this and to also prevent external interference. Through this, we would have a relatively distributed mode of governance. From these nodes, various activities that would further aeonic influence such as charities, events, etc can be hosted which are abstracted from the usual logic of capitalist exchange relations. In such activities, there is the presence of Myth. There is often a subtle oversimplification of Sorel's understanding of myth to make it more consonant with idealism than it actually is. We should understand that what he meant by myth was something very much connected to this world's events. To really understand the myth, we must understand that he is not coming from either an idealist or materialist metaphysics, but rather from the vitalism of Bergson. This is a sort of slanted understanding of existence which is somehow in between a dualism and monism. What differentiates spirit from matter in such a perspective is not that of substance, but that of temporal quality. Moreover, for Bergson, intuition is a faculty that we have access to by virtue of being living beings. It results from our capability of entering into the actual duration of other living things that are existent in reality. Bergson often gets accused of being an "irrationalist" but he could just as well be characterized as a sort of radical empiricist. What we discover through intuitive sympathy is a deeper unity in whatever process we are observing. One could compare this to the intuition of Eternity that one reaches after going through all of the different shapes of consciousness laid out in the course of Hegel's Phenomenology, the difference is that this intuition is grasped in experience rather than Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>7544
> Sex is what you're born as, according to your chromosomes.
Falsenvke
Sex is a combination of sexual characteristics, not just muh chromosomes.
Transsexuals are called transsexuals because they change their sex.

>>7951
Huh. Guess I don't need these Normoid Pills.
By the way, thanks for the correction :-)

>>7887

for a year's worth shipment it might be worth it, still have to ask because it's my dad's house and my bf been helping me too

however i'd need to know exactly what i'm asking for and not just say "some trans girls on a communist 4chan told me"

syringes are… "cheap" they sold me a pack of 4 for like 2$ USD

but the needle kinda big, and it made my buttock hurt for a couple of days,

getting help from my dad's girlfriend atm but when she can't imma go pay 10 pesos for the shot tho i have to get in line early.
and should probably still study the diagram they gave me in case neither option is available at some point.

>>7888
Afaik youre supposed to use a thicker needle to get the fluid from the vial and then swap it for a thinner needle for injection. I'm not trans though so take it with a grain of salt

>>7897
not using vials atm, it comes in ampules.

>>7899
It should work then, no? You're supposed to use filter needles for extracting from the ampules. Then you swap the needle, push the air out if necessary, and inject it. Try asking a medical professional, cuz you're gonna be doing this injection thing for a long time and it's better if you're not sore

>>7900

well the person injecting me doesn't seem to say nothing and my nurse friend says there is just no way for a glass fragment to be ever small enough to get through the needle caliber

>>6811
This post is why screenshots of posts on this site should be spread to other platforms whenever Leftypol wants to advertise about revolutionizing

interesting manifesto though rather long. a lot of these points seem very tied to south asian politics and hence it does not look beyond the horizon within which trans rights are still threatened even after marriage legalization. if there is a problem with this focus, it isn't that marriage rights are useless or that they should not be advocated for (indeed there are as you point out important material reasons for which this is something to secure). the problem is that marriage presents a very limited collective existence. you are correct in dismissing intersectionalist subversivists that are not interested in policies that would actually give trans people any real determinate agency, but you should plan further beyond just this

a conclusion which ive come to is that a fundamental issue of all hitherto forms of organizd struggle has been a lack of consciousness concerning the means with which any revolutionary apparatus is capable of reproducing themselves. you can only perform strikes as long as you are able to afford food and rent. moreover without any actual ownership of the means of production, there is ergo no control over ideological apparatuses, hence the framing of any organized struggle will always be designed by bourgeois hegemony

in order to have true leverage over society then, a movement needs genuine ownership of production to the point that in times of crisis the movement is able to largely reproduce itself in isolation from the greater economy. this ownership can not be something that can be gained immediately, as such behaviour will provoke immediate bourgeois retaliation. we must gain power immanently to the bourgeois system, in order to ultimately negate it. this is why i suggest the proper way forward will be a federation of cooperatives. it can be stratified over different administrative levels (the lowest of which is the cooperative itself) and at each stage there are elected representatives. i am also thinking at different levels there can be other parallel forms of political organization for instance guilds in order to better represent different spheres of production in the organization of how resources are moved internally to the federation.

key priorities will be securing supply lines and funds for hrt and surgeries

you do not seem to be coming from a western context so i am not sure to what extent the strategy i am suggesting is very feasible for you. we have plenty of white transhumanist laborPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6871
> the issue with your strategy (at least taken universally and applied to the west) is that it will just be used by the ruling class as a pretext for sending us all to asylums.

I'm not the original OP. I'm not interested in collaborating with the labor aristocracy and IMO riots are undisciplined and pretty useless. I want straightforwardly to combine protest and draining money from the state (particularly the cops). Blocking a road is what I'm thinking about, not riots. We don't have near enough people to organize riots.

>>6881
>I'm not interested in
and what is the substance of this disinterest? maybe lenin and mao should have just concluded that they weren't interested in collaborating with the peasantry or national bourgeois despite the indisputable strategic advantages that came with securing the support of even just the peasantry

you want, straightforwardly, to do such and such while ignoring that what you are suggesting is both weaker and more impotent than failed strategies of the past (as events such as '68 also featured the disruption of capital), but would also be performed against a bourgeois surveillance state that is even more powerful than before

maybe to add something constructive to what you want to do, gathering information on the behaviour of law enforcement would be absolutely essential to avoid getting v-coded. you might also have to watch for the increase in law enforcement within a particular area that would inevitably result from these strategy requiring a guerilla sort of strategy in which there are periods of disruption and retreat across a wide region and this disruption may not necessarily be coordinated to be simultaneous across this large region

>>6508
There you go. Epstein says sucking feminine penis isn't gay.
Eat shit Jason Unruhe

>>7894
So the rightists are just snowflakes trying to defend their """religion""". How ironic, considering how they think of the left (as a whole) as "snowflakes".

>>7895
I wouldn't use term such as "snowflakes" here, but my personal understanding of this situation is that this phenomenon is not based upon some grounded theories, talking points or related to any real information they may have read somewhere. It's a result of ages of right-wing voters consuming propaganda at a pace that's not possible to be digested properly through normal means - the subconscious reinterprets vague links and buzzwords into a coherent "gay men are pedos" message, while the conscious mind simply cannot process it. These people *can't* send you any credible statistics or articles that would back up their claims - because they don't exist. They've been hearing these claims for over 30 years and it's become an integral part of their internal meta-narrative. Their political viewpoints are now based *upon* the idea that LGBTQ+ people are the ultimate evil of the 21st century, not vice versa.

To put it simply, it's memetic warfare at it's finest.

>>7893
>becoming
It's been like this for decades.
All you have to do is bring up their support of the Epstein pedophile class (Trump, Elon, etc) and tell them to shut the fuck up. They are projecting.

>>7893
Nah Harry Hay, Guy Hocquenghem and a few other figures in gay liberation history were pedos or pedo advocates. So it doesn't entirely come from nowhere. Fucking libertines.

>>7898
Conservacucks are almost always Zionists

>testosterone makes you obese!
It does the opposite it makes being lean easier. Just look at/listen to bodybuilders.

>>7789
Now im scared that if i start estrogen i wont be able to starve myself as easily

>>7795
depends its surely subjective. your Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis should change to match your new TDEE. idk how fast it the changes would happen tho.

its definitely not a reason not to start and starting will probably give you motivation and willpower to be healthy with food and exercise

all of you skinny bitches should die and give me your eating "disorders" thanks

>>7789
It's a combination of testosterone, more bone density, typically taller and more muscle mass per unit of weight
So yes what would normally be like 1500 for a woman could easily be 2000 for a man. Especially if it's a man who does labor. I'm not even tall, but when I was working full time I was easily going through like 2500 a day.

You'll never get the numbers exactly right anyway. A lot of it is guessing and estimating. It really just comes down too eat healthier to promote muscle over fat retention, and actually do shit to jumpstart what's otherwise a pretty standard metabolic rate.