/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>6500
no!!! you must care about bullshit!!! you must argue!!!!

>>6502

i don't even wanna be out of bed rn

Change the mainstream LGBT agenda and all theyfabs will disappear - it will simply be unpopular and not edgy.

>>6501
What is They-Fabs powerset?

They’ve been around forever

>>6479
I'm not opposed to Discord in this instance for security/privacy reasons and do have aan account. I just find Discord to be a viscerally disgusting experience to use with how obnoxious and noisy the UI has become over the past few years and try to avoid using it too much.

anyway, aside from everything I said above about how the entire AGP/HSTS thing is pseudoscience that was made up by chaser doctors who mostly just wanted to rape trans women and be able to cope about how the ones that they raped are actually the real valid women, another anon posted something in another thread recently about how "AGP" is a thing that is only applied to trans women to make us feel ashamed for having any degree of positivity about our own appearances and bodies even though there is nothing qualitatively different about trans women feeling good about their appearances as there is in cis people feeling hot. it works into the broader tendency to strip us of as much autonomy and agency as possible where we aren't even allowed to feel good about ourselves without it being made into a pathological thing to gatekeep HRT from us, but this is a double-standard that isn't applied to like literally any other category. certainly not cis people, not even other trans people; it's something that is uniquely weaponized against transfems.

I also think there's some degree of obfuscation that has happened over time because as I said in the 90s the category of "transgender" was created to encompass both transsexuals and transvestites, and then later on in the 2010s things got even more muddled with everyone just being "queer", and once again it's only transfems who have to deal with all the contradictions of these arbitrary categories that were made up by cis people for completely cynical transmisogynistic reasons. you can make the argument that there is something that exists in the world that gets erroneously diagnosed as "autogynephilia" and that the conflation of this with Blanchardian pseudoscience is the result of how discourses around trans people have evolved over time. really, what this more accurately describes is crossdressers and transvestites, men who self-identify as men and that we now recognize as not being transfem because they have no desire to live as women or identify with women as a class of people (speaking of which I highly recommend readingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6479
its not even necessarily that AGP (in the literally interpretation of the term) is fake, its more so the Blanchardian interpretation and construction of it.
The self attraction to one's femininity isn't bad or new, its just sorta normal in a lot of people (but obviously not everyone)
if ur bf is a chud that cant see nuance than its over

>>6478
id have interest in such a thing

my favorite shitty transhumanist thing is that you're basically forced to get srs, it's often the only real requirement even though it's just objectively quite gross, literally a government mandated hole added to your body exclusively for sex
i wish i had a female reproductive system but srs just isn't that, it barely even mimmicks a real vagina
i dont want to have sex with my penis but i also don't really want to go through with the whole thing of gambling on a surgery that i dont even really want, but i feel so forced to because im not considered valid by anyone including the government if i dont

>>6470
The Medical perspective on transgenderism is misplaced imo, the libertarian perspective makes much more sense, do whatever you want, it doesn't matter if you're 'valid' or not.

>>5784
Email Coffeezilla (lol)
This is the sort of thing thats in his ballpark and it would bring a lot of publicity where it matters.

>>5798
>>5805
if this breaches containment it's only going to make the people who run the board harden their security even more, if not delete it entirely and all the other shit on the forum, and will probably not amount to much because there's no smoking gun to link anyone to the forum. if a lot of people became aware of it they would get mad, but not in any categorically different or useful way than how people already feel about the Epstein files. in order to make this info strategically useful someone is going to need to infiltrate this forum.

>>5806

what forum? i just wanted to talk about how much i hate YuGiOh and YuGiOh players

>>5806
>infiltration
Pretty sure Zilla can handle that. Again seems like his ballpark but I haven't watched much of him.

Oh my god these sick fucks have been doing this in my own province wtf

>>5867
>instead you remain in control and can work through the emotions
don't you think there are degrees to this? I have been traumatised by multiple experiences in my life and I've always tried to immediately snap out of the repetitions and to instead focus on survival minimizing the long term damage. this has worked to make the best out of a shitty situation but clearly hasn't worked as well with interpersonal relations. over the years I have observed people with similar issues repeat their traumas over and over and over again, I would like to believe I don't do that.
>Also there's things a therapist does that you can't do yourself.
I am sure having someone who is good at recognizing these patterns and is only bias in the direction of our currently established science CAN help some. I also think that this isn't as infallible as straight forward as you and people like you seem to believe it is. I've been failed by therapy and I've seen so many others around me be, I would really really like to believe that it just is that simple. I believe the existing structure is very much built with horse blinders on and I do believe there is quite a bit of nuance that the science simply ignores.
>Also a therapist can see when we're engaging in denial, projection, etc., or acting out a script/schema. these things are made to not be seen by the one employing them
how do you think regular people act? do you not think that everyone does these things? I am sure that there's some behaviors both you and I have that are completely unhealthy under the analytical lens of a third party, this is a normal part of social existence.
>So they can point these out and from that feedback you can begin to maybe see when you're engaging in those defenses or scripts and regain control
every single one of us, traumatized or not engages in this, every single one of us doesn't have full control over their life. this is a very easy concept to twist and turn, which is why I believe it is very easy to infer something is just a script or a defense when it isn't and they are simply being over-analytical. I believe that the current approach is fundamentally flawed, I believe that we shouldn't treat mental health like physical health as when you do this you end up Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>5912
>don't you think there are degrees to this
Of course. Also i feel like I have to say that not every horrible experience is traumatic (some people come out the other side without it changing them), but the coping mechanisms are part of the thing that makes it trauma. So even if you used really good coping mechanisms that were necessary to get you through, those coping mechanisms can themselves be the problem later on.

>I've been failed by therapy
Same. I've had three therapists, and one was an idiot, one acted stuck up and like she hated me, and the other wanted me to reconcile with my abuser and attributed my (now very obviously) ptsd symptoms to innate causes. So now instead of therapy i just read books. But that's how I learned that there are many models of therapy. Regular talk therapy is one model, made for funneling people towards psychiatrists, helping neurotics and depressives with cbt, and things like that. Then there are psychoanalytic and psychodynamic therapists which focus on long term therapy and forming a therapeutic relationship. This model actually makes sense to me, at least for most people's issues. The first model is i think tailored to no one, since imo it underestimates the extent of the causes of people's issues. Like assuming that a depressed person just needs to be told to try to maintain a structured and active life harder. That might work for some people but many aren't functional enough for just being given the info on what to do and a place to vent to be enough.

>do you not think that everyone does these things
I think everyone engages in defenses, and some defenses are more distorting or harmful and some are more healthy. Projection is a pretty annoying one. Denial gets in the way of trauma recovery. Part of therapy is teaching healthier defenses. Yes most people are somewhat crazy and could use someone to help them with introspection, just like most people also probably need a better education.

>I believe that we shouldn't treat mental health like physical health as when you do this you end up giving up your autonomy to a inherently biased third party who simply lacks your nature and nurture
If a doctor tells you that to stay healthy you should build muscle, eat a balancPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>me and my girlfriend recently broke up over both being traumatized
>in our current superstructure
why are marxists like this? the fuck you mean superstructure!
i'm just imagining a physician saying:
>i just divorced my wife
>E=mc²

>>6465
i meant physicist. why did i say physician? why am i this fucking retarded

idk everyone is different but you probably shouldn't make your ability to maintain relationships ontologically dependent on the global system. If you let itd contradictions dominate you it's not any different from giving in to it. Nobody is coming to save you or change the world, so start with yourself.

Based fascist

>>6456

even Freud knows this is a retarded take

>>6451
what if i dont have any friends

>>6167
>early 20th century Germany
and what political economy contradictions were being heightened? Capitalism was in decay ("liberalism on steroids" fascists consume more gender affirming care than trans people desire, wtf)
>try to erase all record
The collapsing power of traditional ruling class allowed LGBT rights to be recorded into history. But for various reasons, many proletarian revolutions failed, and workers were sacrificed to the satanic altar of capital. This has happened many times before, and we will outlive them, because these soulless "Spartans" are literally abandoning their babies and committing social suicide lol. There is not a single bunker on earth which the Elon Musk transphobes can skitter away to
<When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, …

>>6197
>This leads one to believe that the current trans movement might not be 100% organic. It has hitched itself to bourgeois medical companies.
Mark Fisher's radlib critique of Big Pharma is now being championed by disgusting liberals like RFK jr lol

>>6291
>self-sustaining for reasons beyond pure materialism
The earth is now powered by itself because of orgone oscillations, its the '90s! All we need to do is wait for solar panels to be cheap in the free market and our problems are solved, yaaasss!
>I want to hear—in your words, not Marx'sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6463
>capitalism was in decay
How come? How does capitalism decay?

>>5987
>Why do so many trans allies think sex is immutable?
Same reason they think banning trans women from sports has any sane justification; right wing astroturfing.

>>5996
Aren't the mainstream lib/left and right funded by the same source?
Essentially, if you think about it, they're pushing the same agenda.
>Trans is about self-identification
>Gender is a social construct
>You don't need HRT to be trans
>Sex can't be changed

>>5987
It's all pseudoscience, might be dramatic but its comparable to how abolitionists during the civil war still feared "amalgamation" and refused to refer to black people as "Mister" or "Miss"
Most of it certainly was racism, but the other hand was many of them were so dumb and uneducated that they truly believed black people were inferior
If we make like the kind of stuff Julia Serano and Forest Valkai pushes in mainstream highschool level education I'm sure we'd have less of these issues, as with any sort of social issue education and political lines solve them

>>6436
trans people simply have less inherent value than cis women, they cant give birth
therefore they're not fit for starting a family, and if they want someone to settle for them they have to be pretty much perfect or nobody is ever going to want to date them unless you wanna fuck a bottom chaser in the ass

>>6444
Are you autistic or just an incel lol

>>6442
Fake news. I wanted to be a woman back in elementary school, when I didn't have the internet or even a computer, and I hadn't experienced any traumatic events.

>>6448

what did i even do? :(

>>6436
>i think its actually just IB and incel chud culture more generally. like half of the brain worms come from the concept of passing and half the posters on /tttt/ are not trans theyre fucking polyps pedophiles who think 19yo is too old because they hit the wall and divide women into maddona/whore and "would"/ogre boxes based on like a single slightly dark brown hair on their forearm. their standards are psychotic and based on chinese cartoons wholly separate from even the cosmetic advertising and hollywood industries. i think the answer is to develop a healthy relationship with what real people actually look like

From what I see, there's more people saying 30 is hitting the wall and 18-22 dating anyone outside of their age number is pedophilia and blaming anime for their own self-image problems.

Best and worst experience with all the queers in your life?

>>6151
>Best and worst experience with all the queers in your life?
Well for the best it would probably be all of the family memories with my non-binary sibling and stuff. As for the worst it would probably be that time in high-school where in the bathroom a kid reached his phone down a bathroom-stall gap to show me a dick-pic which is technically sexual-harassment though not assault. I still don't know if that kid was queer, he could have been straight and did it only as a power thing but still. Although this is why it is good to have queer friends and stuff, most cis-het-moids would turn homophobic after that.

>>6439
Were you twinky? A bit feminine? He might have wanted you to suck his cock at the stall

>>6443
>Were you twinky? A bit feminine? He might have wanted you to suck his cock at the stall
No I wasn't, and neither was he which is why I thought that he could of been straight and trying to do it as a power things, he never saw me or what I looked like until I got out of the stall and confronted him.

>>5994
Have you tried DIY T/taking roids or is it too expensive for a Brazilian?

>>5995
I'm a neet can't afford it

I'm taking tadalafil and tribulus at the moment

I got banned on 4chuds lgbt for 2 days for posting my cock there and I think nobody even saw it

>>5703
if you are picrel then I don't think you're feminine. Sexy and playful actually.

>>6159
That's Maluma but he is pretty masculine-looking if you have seen his photos. He gets insecure when standing to more masculine guys, it is all relative, he needs to be the most masculine

>>6159
That's Maluma, I posted him because he's my ideal type of man physically I want to hook up with and look like

>>5883
I used to be neutral on it and in the 1. camp but watching how people have talked about 'uygha' my whole life and the emergence of the whole 'dark woke' thing has made me unironically think the "reclamation" of slurs isn't possible. At all. It's never worked and you'll always have low autism score rightoids (frankly, rightfully) asking "well, if [x] group can say it, why can't I?" and your only explanation is tethering us and a new generation of marginalized young people to a past we should be wanting to move forward from.

We should all just admit there's no deeper reason for wanting to say it aside from finding it funny and being lazy, immature and it being a force of habit from our childhood/teen years spent on chan sites rather trying to rationalize or moralize it with some facetious radfem bullshit of pretending it's 'reclaimative' and that you're keeping the scoreboard even.

Look at how 'gay' as a pejorative became so effectively phased out for practically a decade there even amongst children just to come back in large part because retarded catty Stan twitter gay guys and fujos couldn't stop being homophobic to each other while fighting over Nicki Minaj or fanfiction or Taylor Swift or whatever the fuck else, or how every 2nd post on social media these days is full of people calling each other retards.

Slur reclamation and 'dark woke' as a whole has done absolutely nothing for the progressives except made it slightly more okay to admit to liking Cum Town and Chapo around women. We gave away our ability to say to the next generation of politically curious teenagers coming up online now that "we're the side who isn't ableist/body-shaming/sexist/homophobic/sex negative/transphobic and don't place the value of others on these restrictive hierarchies" just to give in to those hierarchies for the most braindead short-term gains imaginable.

I could go on about how arguably the only real value the American left has to offer the rest of the world*is* shit like concern over language, hand-wringing over idpol, discussions about representation and shit of that ilk since they're frequently unwilling to do anything more disruptive than that or put themselves at risk to do anything actually helpful to the extent that they're unironically getting shown up by the same libs they scorn in places like Minnesota, but that's a tangent for Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6141
>We should all just admit there's no deeper reason for wanting to say it aside from finding it funny and being lazy, immature and it being a force of habit from our childhood/teen years spent on chan sites rather trying to rationalize or moralize it with some facetious radfem bullshit of pretending it's 'reclaimative' and that you're keeping the scoreboard even

Irony is, adults create that kind of humor and appropriate it.
Kids pick it up.

If anything, most adult humor relies too much on slurs.

It is wild compared to other internet spaces where so many words are censored to combat algorithms, "unalived" or "unal!ved" "Isr**l" that sort of thing. I find it refreshing that people can speak freely here.

>>6158
Wrong. There isn't free speech here. You get censored for saying russian saboteur transhumanist uyghur.

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