/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>8066
>missing the point this badly
its a fucking drawing retard

>>6979
Is it 4 t's to keep lgb out?

>>6993
Mastectomy isn't anywhere near equivalent to vaginoplasty. It's more closely equivalent to facial feminization surgery. How do you know that the trans woman isn't post-op FFS and that the trans man doesn't have a pussy?

>>8185
what's it called if you just want bottom surgery but want to still appear as your assigned gender

>>7883
lots of words to justify being an annoying terminally online autist

i really really like all the braindead discourse middle class queer people, including other trans people, have every day while more and more laws to get trans people killed pass

>>7886

Claudia Sheinbaum won't let me carry a big iron

>>7862
>i dont know what the obsession is with comparing male puberty with rape
Find batter alter friends? Where is there a place that does this,
>reenter the real world where most people would disassociate themselves from you for comparing puberty to rape
do you need Police action?
>its like all things that happened to trans women that they personally disliked must be compared and powerscaled and being willing to make light of rape clearly isnt a sign of being so solipsistic that they have no empathy for women who were raped or abused.
I don't know if this is a organization or something but someone who makes light of that is asking for serious trouble, and thinks they're going to find like minded people and they probably will, in a bad way.

I don't really know too much on how diffrent women handle abuse, and i don't want to talk about it because it hurts me, maybe someday i can use the power i have to help them.

>notice how i did not put "cis" before the second mention of women because they also despise and wish harm on trans women who disagree with them
I'll send a wellness check. The trans-person and woman "of tomorrow" can defend themselves pretty well, now thanks to the gods.

>>7862
>its wholly unnecessary. it really seems more like a one sided proxy war of laundered resentment.
generally true, it's tw*tter after all

I can totally understand the impulse to compare them however, right? Something that is forced on your body, and despite how much you wish for it to stop it will continue. Provokes feelings of disgust, violation, powerlessness; that lines up. Of course it's not exactly one to one, I can see how a victim would just reject this idea on the face. At the same time, you don't know if the people making this comparison haven't experienced both anyway. It also goes both ways, I think. I draw on my experiences to construct my understanding of other things. I don't think I would be quite as fiercely for the right to access abortion if I did not find the concept of being forced to go through a pregnancy intensely horrifying due to my own experience of bodily changes I desperately do not want to happen.

when i was a really little kid my view of gender was pretty much "yeah it would be better to be a boy, but we cant all get what we want. someone has to take one for the team, feminism and girl power exist to make us less upset about that" and then i found out what trans people and gender dysphoria were and realized that was why i felt like that

i was a boy scout, that's all it took

When I was 12 I played MMORPGs presenting as a girl and felt much more comfortable being treated and perceived like a girl to the point life irl started to feel depressing and shit in comparison.
At the time I didnt even know what transness was. Wish I had known.

pretty embarrassing. actually thought i "couldnt be trans" as a full on adult for over a decade because the internet told me i wouldnt pass. realized from reading some communist adjecent philosophy that its not exactly a choice and then continued to repress for years because of the intellectual justifications of said theory leading me to believe that just because medical intervention wasnt necessary to identity that meant is wasnt critical for me. that was an incorrect assumption. in the end reading too many books was harmful and i knew what needed to be done all along but was avoiding the work, sort of like other things…

I found out I was bi in the late 00s when emo was still huge. I was a teenager then, I remember being really jealous of emo guys because of how androgynous and cute they were and wishing I could look like them. Then somewhere down the road that envy gave way to attraction. Surprisingly I didn't have any guilt about it despite growing up in a homophobic area and family, I just thought "huh guess I'm bi. cool." and went on with life.

Gender took a lot more time to deal with. I know as a teen I only hung out with girls (though only the tomboyish/nerdy ones) because I hated the way guys acted, how everything they did seemed to be for the purpose of helping themselves get laid. But I still considered myself a guy, just one with an androgynous personality. During the early/mid 10s there started to be an increasing presence of trans people, and after learning about how people transition I really wanted to start, but then soon after I wound up in a shitty reactionary phase that had me repping so hard I forgot all about it. I even hated trans people for a while, though instead of the usual muh bathrooms/sports/etc reasons it was online bullshit like "they're just doing it for oppression points and clout".

Then in late 2024 I finally escaped that phase, opened my mind back up, and came to terms with being trans. Still in the closet to everyone but my friends, though.

>>8123
but unironically

>>8123
Won't I grow boobs?

>>8126
problem?

Just take finasteride or dutasteride if you dont want boobs. It will prevent twinkdeath.

>>8126
you wont wake up with a huge rack overnight + you can look into using raloxifene

Resurrecting (I'm not OP), I need info and inspo. How the fuck do I search clothing by type and have a lot of options for torso/jackets that aren't PLASTIC SLOP?

how do i get rid of body hair easily without waxing or having chemical bath
like some trimmer with longer handle and flexible head? gotta exist right? is there a name for this? because i cant find it

>>8086
>trimmer with longer handle and flexible head?
oneblade

>>8104
>oneblade
I have that one and cant recommend it. It works fine on coarse facial hair, but struggles removing finer bodyhair. My advice to >>8086 would be getting an epilator for back, and normal razor for the rest.

>>8106
hmm i use it everywhere and its great and pretty smooth and get no burns or ingrowns. havent had to buy replacement carts yet and not looking forward to that tho

All religion can fuck off. Substitute religion for national culture as was done in Albania. Convert all religious sites of worship into museums and cultural centres, if religoids continue to misuse these centres then they must be demolished. Being religious should be a thought crime, same as being a liberal or conservative. Public execution of religious figures.

>>7987
Ironically, it was the secular Enlightenment that pushed the two gender binary hard. Modern conservatism is actually anti-conservative.

>>8036
How

>>8050
Since the Renaissance, Western medicine begun to slowly move to a two sex binary model where male and female were fundamentally separate biological categories with a person's sex being determined by science, rather than theology or some other ideology. This binary model was supposedly validated by science and secular Enlightenment values against superstitious and religious dogma, especially those of non-Western natives in the colonies who lack a proper understanding of sex.

>>7919
>Best religion for trans people
A cohesive armed movement for self defense.

>>8057
>I have noticed this a lot here, recently: posters will just post something as if it has a quantum of meaning.
That does seem to be what you're doing, yes. Any plans to actually address anything I said, or are you just going to project and redirect like a MAGAtard?

You are literally half a percentage of any given population, why should anyone give a fuck?

>Are they being paid to delegitimize the trans movement?

If you care so much about influencers supposedly delegitimatizing the trans movement on the Internet then why are you obsessed with like two washed-up nobody streamers/YouTubers and don't focus on like the two biggest trans influencers on the entire internet with millions of subs and views, toobz and hontra, being unironic opportunist war and genocide supporters? If anything this is more damaging to the supposed trans movement than another shitty clip by destiny that was botted to thr top of reddit.

loling @ the twitter thing last week where randoms thought having breasts mean you had surgery

>>8065
On what part are you confused so that I might help you understand why your response was a non-sequitur? The part where your sample size is too small? That your samples are bad and non-representative? That this entire endeavor is pointless fucking about driven by a fixation on spectacle?

>project, act like a MAGAtard
That's rich coming from you lol.

>>8063
>Describing yourself as "gynesexual, femsexual and more rarely finsexual"
brother you simply misread the fucking posts. Your interpretation of the meaning of the sentences is analytically erroneous. Then you flew off the handle,
>If anon isnt willing to get together with men and copes with "I like 'some' ftm"
and entered the strawman championships
>If anon isnt willing to get together with men […] describing himself as bisexual is useless
They're willing to have sexual relations with androgynous, enby, agender people, women. Just not all genders. That's bisexual, just not pan. But maybe this really rustles your jimmies for some dumb reason.
If you're gonna keep this going re-read it again and take some deep breaths. Hopefully you're open to the possibility of making faulty analyses, hell, even conclusions.

>>8075
Excuse me how many genders are there. If your answer is more than three then there's no way we can have a conversation.

>>8076
>>8077
>If your answer is more than three
>Or rather, more than two
>then there's no way we can have a conversation
Bitch you dumb as hell!

>>8041
>I AM COMING FOR THEM AND I AM A STORM OF DEATH. RED GUARDS MASS MURDERING TERFS.
The transgenders are VIOLENT PSYCHOPATHS who want to MURDER US HORRIBLY simply for the COMMON SENSE DECISION to HARMLESSLY GENOCIDE them.

>>7910
Never took a social science course in your life, I take it?
Your claim that the social construction of (social) facts does not have social consequences falls at the first hurdle in that social facts are exactly only real in their (social) consequence. To put it in another way: women are not women because of any (sub)set of signifiers, but are women because of their treatment based on those signifiers.

If you struggle with this, I recommend re-reading Theses on Feuerbach until lightning strikes.

>>7910
> if gender is an abstract, a set of styles, aesthetics, and attitudes
Engels saw gender and family relations in the context of social relations with regards to capital formation.
>Meaning incels are right
scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, everytime lmao
>Here I am, a hetero normative male, and I am acknowledging you as a woman
<Women's work is generally unpaid or paid less than "men's work" and is not as highly valued as "men's work"
>What is this actually about for you?
zero historical materialism Christoid thinks his alienated goy cattle love being slaves and merely want his Elliot Rogers class of PMC eugenics farm managers to correctly milk the correct type of feminine commodities or male commodities.

>OP picrel is pointing out the idiocy of so called "progressives" falling for the grift that biology is immutable
>Threads discussion is instead about the influence of social constructs
Both of these are meaningful, but I really fucking wish people would talk more about the first one instead of always arguing for trans rights from the perspective that all the fascist narratives are true.

Twitter poisoning thread

>>7989
Are you manic?

1. Those two greentexts discuss the same topic: exactly the (im)mutability of "biology" (and other spooky concepts).
   
2. There is one (1) person regurgitating fashy narratives and they got two (2) replies, both negative.