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> thirdworldcel
> monthly income barely above 1k usd
> recently got an unstable side job and made like $15k over a few months, might make more (not drugs, just got very lucky to randomly get western-level compensation for software engineering gigs)

So now my entire life savings are around $15-20k, I never had such money before. Should I bet it all and go to Thailand to get FFS or at least some androgynous-type of looksmaxxing? I'm not sure which is worse - being a below-average m🤮le or having no financial cushion? Especially given the cushion in question is kinda laughable anyway. I think I can looksmax enough to start collecting simpbux online or just live at some guy's expense.

That's so much money wtf! FFS is worth it and I would get it immediately if I had that money, but if you feel you need it as a cushion then you should hold on to it. I think FFS is cheaper than that in Thailand anyway.

FFS is great, and I highly recommend it, but it isn't going to fix so many problems that you'll suddenly go from seeing yourself as male to being able to make lots of simpbux. It really just helps give an extra push to an existing transition, removing a couple small male signifiers that won't even be consciously obvious to most people. This also means it won't help your mental health hugely if you're down on yourself, because you can easily just trick yourself to not see the changes and then feel like you wasted your money. And that's not even taking into account that you can't realistically recover from FFS alone and will need a patient helper with you while you suffer for the first few days.

I'm very happy that I had FFS, but it's a hell of a thing. You've gotta be sure.



 

>want to learn makeup to fix my ugly masculine face
>have to research and buy an overwhelming fuckton of different makeup products
>realize i have to do skincare and fix my acne before learning makeup
>have to go to dermatologist to get recommended a skincare routine
>says it might not even work for me and it will takes months to tell
>cant even do the skincare routine consistently because of how depressed i am
>mfw its been 4 days since i last used any skincare products

Ill never be able to fix my acne, ill never be able to learn makeup. My face will always be ugly gross and masculine. Ill never be able to be a pretty femboy.
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>>8610
uh if ur american and dont have a job u get medicaid and then they pay for it?

>>8610
>i see it as a lesser-evil to twink death
rather than peter panning so hard you're willing to take cross-sex hormones you should probably just realize all this is a normal part of growing up

>>8610
>because i see it as a lesser-evil to twink death
"Twink death" as its talked about online is basically a myth. Sure, as you get older you'll get some wrinkles, your metabolism will slow, you might gain weight, etc. These changes will occur gradually and at some point you'll probably no longer fit the description of a "twink" (although this can happen a lot later than you think, I've known cute twinky guys in their late 30s). But it's not like you'll turn 25 and get zapped with a ray that instantly turns you into Homer Simpson. It's just aging and its inevitable. Estrogen won't stop it apart from maybe improving your skin a bit and combating hair loss, but that can be achieved with a good skincare routine and anti-alopecia drugs. Plus around 50% of men don't exhibit male pattern baldness anyway, and those that do typically don't start experiencing it until middle age. The point is you're freaking out over something that's A) not nearly as bad as you're imagining, especially if you take good care of yourself wrt diet, exercise, hygiene, and skincare, and B) is inevitable and can at best be slowed down a bit. Stop worrying about it, just enjoy your youth, live in the moment. Otherwise you'll be miserable before you start to get old, and be even more miserable after. It definitely isn't worth fucking with your hormones and potentially permanently altering your body over.

unless of course theyre in denial




 

Being into femboys doesn‘t make a man gay or bisexual. This may sound like a cope to avoid admitting to being either, but think about it.

Men who are into femboys are usually men who are also into women. And what they are into in femboys is a heteronormative presentation of femininity. Such men are usually not into men who look like men. One could then argue this is a preference, but a preference would mean that they are still into men but merely prefer this type of man. This isn‘t the case for men who into femboys though. Of all the people who are male they aren‘t turned on by any of them except femboys. So it‘s not a preference, it‘s exclusivity. Finally, men who are into femboys are generally not interested in sucking dick or being fucked in the ass.

We either conclude that 1) this is bisexuality but a very, very limited form of it with peculiarities that make it distinct from ordinary bisexuals who are attracted to average men, or 2) it is heterosexuality, but a redefined version whose basis isn‘t biology but certain signifiers and presentation, or 3) these men are standard heterosexuals but given enough female elements the gullible human brain mistakes it for a woman and lights up the horny center of the male brain. Evolution did not foresee cute, horny femboys and therefore didn‘t exclude it as a pointless mating option.
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>>5107
Based
Normies will deny this.

How many of the chasers in here have actually touched let alone fucked a femboy?
Also, asinine thread. Stop living your life by the petty constraints others wish to create.

>>8730
Thanks glowanon you've added nothing as usual

indeed theres nothing more straight (derogatorily) than being attracted to anime shit like "femboys"

also whats the fucking point of making a thread about how much of a straight male you are on the fucking lgbt board LMAO you can keep femboys bro

also also these captchas are such a cancer



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https://www.wearequeeraf.com/the-gallae-transgender-priestesses-of-ancient-rome/
The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.The body was too short or empty.
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>>8713
Just cut your balls of lol before honning out.

But yeah thats true too

>>8716
>trans"gender"
>no it's actually transsexuality
motte and bailey

>>7927
true

>>8719
they're not. gender is spooky nonsense and sex is biological stuff

>>8720
Sex is spooky nonsense like race. Gender is like nation, sex is like race. Sex and race are spooky nonsense. The bourgeois family and imperialism are real.



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>HRT before puberty
>HRT at 14-16
>HRT at 25+
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.

>>8702
not really the sooner u start hrt the taller u will become
because puberty blockers stop bone plates from fusing.

When should i take testosterone?
Great picrel doe, is Rodina a Yugoslav?

And they're all cuties

>>8702
>HRT before puberty
That is not a thing. Do you mean blockers?

Do you think it is possible for HRT alone to change bone structure over a period of years or decades? Long term stem cell re-orientarion. Epigenetic shift.

>>8704
If you are a trans man, then you should be taking it.



 

I'm sorry I'm not a good aspiring faggotran im sorry I'm not a good retard
I'm sorry I dont have interests or fixations or hopes or aspirations
I'm sorry I sit around burning my wrists with ciggerettes and doomscrolling 4chan, rotting my brain cells
I'm sorry I don't try.
I'm sorry I hide so much from all these people that have dedicated themselves to keeping me alive
I'm sorry I'm not helping them back.
I promise I will
I promise I will get a job before I commit,
I promise I will impress all these fuckers and buy them pipes and fuck them in the ass if they want to
But i know ill never get better

Why are you sorry? Your life is uniquely yours. Dont apologize for existing, thats cringe. We all have maladaptive coping mechanisms but it doesn't define us. We’re all just humans having a human experience. I wont tell you “its gonna be ok,” but just know that your life is your own and your choices define it

>>8487
Stop using 4chan.

>>8487
>I promise I will impress all these fuckers

And theres your problem. You owe nobody anything. Stop living for others.

>>8487
eh a lot of people are pretty fucked up and do drugs and crime and bullshit

Anyhow you just have to search around a lot and try a bunch of things before you can make life slightly more bearable and limit the blast radius of your dysfunctions a little.



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repression general - "its over" edition

finally i can stop using 4chan now that this board exists
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Neonazis forced me to rep. If I hadn't been psyopped by YWNBAW, I would have transhumanist out at 14 instead of 16. Of course, 16 wasn't bad, but those two years cost me 10 cm in height.

>>8628
I don't get it, at the point when you start to pass doesn't the dysphoria just become insecurities that bother trans people the same way cis people get insecure. Like that ten cm of height, or broader shoulders, I have seen plenty of afabs with large body frame sizes and amabs with small sizes.

>>674
take your HRT, retards

>>8628
>nooo i'm a gigayoungshit but i'm a 9/10 now instead of a 10/10
reminder that gender dysphoria is just anorexia

>>8683
>16 yrs
>youngshit



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i'm realizing i'm probably genuinely genderqueer or something because i genuinely identify with femininity in a way that feels fundamental to my personality and self-identity yet i don't wanna "be a girl" but it just feels embarrassing to embrace that at 28 years old so i'm just not gonna change anything
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>>8660
He already said he is 28.

>>8666
You can still be fem even if you are older

>>8660
>>8666
>>8667
i'm not really worried about appearance/aesthetics/fashion. i pretty much look the same as i did at 22 anyway
it's more that it feels like i'm too far enough in life to "rediscover myself" or something

>>8679
I mean you're still in your 20's. Besides, self-imposing such an artificial limitation on yourself will make you poorly adjusted when you're older. Older people can and should afford themselves self-rediscovery.

>>8680
Older people do self discovery all the time. They have less people patronizing them.



 

What are good careers for Canadian transhumanists with delayed sleep phase disorder? I need to make $$$ if I’m ever going to afford FFS.
>The body was too short or empty.

find political longshots on kalshi and put down 100 birdbucks or whatever u beaver people have up there. the world is broken now. careers are a joke.

>>8388
Night shift or work from home or gig jobs like food delivery?

Work the Mail. Join the Union.

t. a trans girl working the mail for the same reason



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for context: i'm a boymoder, i've been on diy for a while now with great results so far. voice is my biggest source of dysphoria but i'm doing what i can to work on it. i pass to strangers, my voice passes depending on how i'm feeling. i'm not out to anyone though.

whereever i go, i feel strange. i've never talked to anyone about anything trans related. i've just quietly observed how people treat me, treat eachother and how they talk behind eachothers backs. there isn't a single person i've meet that's been understanding and honest.

people are either ignorant / straight up hateful or they will lie about everything. every so-called "ally" only sexualizes and fetishizes trans people.

>the few trans people i've met only ever sexualize themselves

>women will treat me like a fag (and sexualize me)
>specifically young lib / LGB women expect me to somehow like that and will have no problem outing me in front of random strangers, talk about how my appearance has changed since they've first met me, ask me at my workplace wether or not i am trans (in front of literally everybody…)
>old people will do their best to pretend i'm normal and just not even acknowledge the fact i have giant boobs (which is honestly sometimes preferable to the young women i've mentioned before, except when they loudly scream SIR NOTSODEADNAME a trillion times and out me to everyone)
>young men honestly seem the most welcoming, they just treat me like a normal human being (i only ever want to have real social interactions with men for that very reason), but of course you'll notice their porn-induced brain damage pretty quick.

not even the people offering trans care have a single clue.
i got my blood drawn a while ago at a place a lot of diying transhumanists go to get their labs. i could literally hear the staff make fun of me in another room while i was waiting.

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>>8616
Please don't take this as a rude question but what is the problem with being sexualised? Isn't that kind of validating you as a woman?

>>8617
while i do think it's interesting, it's also different in some ways.
this sort of sexualization often focuses on genitalia (and post-op trans women don't really exist in porn so people never think about that)
for example: when people call me a ladyboy, femboy, whatever, that's just a constant reminder that i'm stuck in a body i don't feel comfortable in.

i'd also say there is no "problem" with people sexualizing others, there's no problem with people being stupid, ignorant, whatever. i just:
  • want these people to be radically honest, to tell me what they think, so i can avoid them or even talk to them and maybe change their mind. instead they'll lie to your face and play politically correct, then talk shit behind your back. i've noticed that pattern so many times and i think it's sad all the other transhumanists fall for it
  • want to find other people that don't think that way, so i can freely associate with them instead




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