/lgbt/ - LGBT

OP here, I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make here, which is about the very real human need for authenticity.

I know this is an utterly taboo idea in our extremely superficial media-oriented capitalist society, but some people are just naturally supposed to be fat, it's part of who they are and changing their bodies and becoming thin to better fit in with mainstream society doesn't make them happy, it makes them miserable.

It's just a matter of self-image, no different than things like gender identity - you see yourself as a certain particular kind of person, that is your internally projected self-image. If you see yourself as a person who is supposed to be thin and you are fat, you will be experience feelings of dysphoria because your body does not match your self-image. Conversely if you naturally see yourself as a fat person but you are pressured to become thin by outside influence, you will experience feelings of dysphoria because your body does not match your self-image. You are who you are.

I feel like we live in this culture/era where authenticity doesn't seem to matter anymore, this "fake it til you make it" social media influencer/self-help ted talk sort of culture where people have no inner sense of self at all, they don't see themselves at all, they see themselves as blanks or wildcards and only think about how they are seen by others, they allow themselves to be defined entirely by outside influence and they live in fear of "cringe" i.e. exposure, having their genuine repressed self publicly laid bare for everyone to see. People see themselves as a broken incomplete work in progress and they put everything in their lives on hold until they are "fixed" and they can conform to social expectations.

So, of course, if someone like me were to come out and say something like "Yes I am fat but that's who I am and I'm perfectly okay with that and I'm not going to change to conform to society; society should change to conform to me." - people who are putting themselves through all this psychological torment by believing they are broken/incomplete and toiling away their lives in vain trying to fix themselves are going to be baffled and likely outraged to hear something like that, to face the possibility that all of their sacrifice and hard work and alienation and depression and pain and suffering, that all of it has been for nothing.

Authenticity, figuring out who you really are and just being yoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>4778
>It makes my saliva feel unnaturally syrupy
worker bee nectar enzymes

>>4800
the modern obesity epidemic is a result of capitalism brother
authenticity is also not a real thing btw, as a living breathing human being you are in a constant state of change
you can choose to be happier and healthier for your own sake rather than needing to impress anyone else
though I would say we have the exact opposite problem in the modern world, too many people (especially powerful people) do not value the opinions of others and do not need to engage in any kind of self-criticism or reflection
under socialism that kind of unflinching individualism would fade away

>>4823
>the modern obesity epidemic

Is this really an epidemic? People have always been fat. There's quite a lot of fatties in the world, billions of them in fact. There have always been fat people, always will be.

Usually disease epidemics eventually end at some point. When is this one going to end? When will I be cured of this disease? When will people who look like me finally be exterminated from the world?

>>4823
>authenticity is also not a real thing btw

Yeah nothing is real this is all a simulation right?

>as a living breathing human being you are in a constant state of change

Yeah, a constant state of change that is largely outside of your control. Sure you can make small adjustments here and there in your life to improve your wellbeing like exercising, moderating your diet, seeing a doctor, deciding whether to transition if you are transgender, etc. but that doesn't mean we have the ability to completely redefine ourselves as we see fit and become avatars. Convincing yourself that you are completely different person is not change, it's just a personality disorder.

Even in the trans community, this kind of thinking is now generally discouraged by gender therapists as outmoded and psychologically damaging, the idea of "re-birthing" and repressing and erasing your pre-transition self and pretending like you never existed. Pretending you don't exist is not healthy, it's psychotic. Authenticity actually matters, regardless of the weird post-truth social media dystopia we now find ourselves living in.

>>4742
1. Transsexualism only became possible relatively recently. How could people in previous centuries have alleviated their dysphoria without HRT? Social transition is also pointless if you look like a man.
2. The cause of gender dysphoria, as far as I know, is a hormonal imbalance and a longer version of the androgen receptor gene.
Testosterone levels in people decline over the years; look at photos of people from about 100 years ago: some women there would now be clocked as trans. Also, due to a decline in natural selection, mutations like a longer androgen receptor gene may be increasingly common.

>>4785
>жду с нетерпением времени открытия науки кастрации
>[I am] impatiently looking forward to the discovery of the science of castration
so based it's unbelievable. book name?

>>4786
Половая Жизнь Современной Молодёжи. 1923 год

"Автоэротизм" 1911: An example of a cis female AGP

Bathroom question in 20th century

>>4720
>very feminine body
resulting from what? if it's mostly due to gynoid fat distribution it's fixable, however since you mentioned being short you'll likely have more trouble adhering to a caloric deficit. you'll also possibly need to gain muscle in some spots after fat loss and eat at a surplus

if you don't want to transition then don't
afab enbies are pretty common. if you don't have dysphoria about your body then don't worry about it and just do whatever alleviates the dyshporia.

that said, it's generally easier to pass if you are FtM than MtF, mostly due to how masculinization works and being irreversible through hormones alone.

>don't understand why people think transition is either the best thing in the world for people with gender dysphoria
Because from what I have heard it is the best way to prevent suicide, and most trans people are very suicidal/depressive and HRT improves their mental health even if they don't pass

>like i really feel whether transition is good for someone comes down to considering 1. will you pass and 2. will you be happy even if you don't pass. and if the answer to both of these is "no" then you probably shouldn't transition. idk!
No, HRT really reduces dysphoria, even without social changes. It’s not placebo

At least you don’t need to hurry. You can pass as FTM even if you start HRT in 30yrs

>>761
Rest in power. Very based.

rest in power

Rest in power.
Really cool to be hearing about this.

>Daisy
>Filipina guerilla fighter
>Died fighting
Is this the sequel to Daisy's Destruction?

China seems somewhat decent when it comes to transgender rights, but societal attitudes still seem to be pretty transphobic. Atleast according to what ive read on prolewiki, that is.

I remember there was a lot of queer users on XiauHongShu well before the TikTok exodus. Comment sections seemed pretty normal, though now that XHS requires face ID I can't check anymore.

>>4629
Were they tiktok refugees or chinese people?

>>4631
Chinese people, yeah. Hence my specificatian that it was before the TikTok exodus.

i too wish i was a twink. or hunkish. i would honestly be anyone else that isn't myself

>>4542
But i just want to be a femboy and possibly also a girl, i dont want to just be relagated to just "non-binary"
>>4493
Is it even worth taking estrogen then if it wont even prevent my twink death? My life is basically over when i hit twink death, besides my body is laready incredibly masculine enough as is. I want to cry, why was i cursed like this

op again and I’ve done some thinking. The thing you’re missing is that non binary isn’t good enough. Being a femboy isn’t right or good enough.

I’ve been promised success in embodying an archetype if only I try, work out, improve my social skills. I can be anything, and that neurosis is buried so deep within me and I don’t know if it’ll ever come out. It’s compounded by contemporary theories of gender that suggest it’s all constructed and I can just choose. I actually agree with that completely, but it doesn’t soothe the ache of being unable to fundamentally, ontologically change my entirety to match an interiority that’s just. Fabricated. It doesn’t exist. It’s all ego. But I can’t square any of it.

I think I just need to meditate and find acceptance or soemthing but it hurts so much

does before hoes

>>4542
I think it sounds like he is fat

>>4595

not so much a desire but a reflex tbh
i was gonna say "desire to be strong" but it's more of a reflex, not so much a desire since what i really wanted was to be able to defend myself.

I have gender dysphoria - i go through HRT. It’s not about your character

>>4599

can't afford that shit here yet

>hard to reconsile their desire to be violent and desire to be feminine?
There is nothing inherently contradictory about femininity and violence.
>>4595
Cis women get spooked into "nonviolence" too despite not being "socialized as men"

You can project strength without acting wantonly violent. Remaining entirely calm and confident while being challenged, like in that yes chad meme, is one of the most female-coded expressions of powers there is. If you are actually prepared to engage in violence or retaliate is ultimately only tangential to both.

repression doesn't eliminate desire it merely distorts it.

>>4562
>Let's create fascism based on LGBT
:^)

>>4571

MARVEL soyboy!

>>2353
It's just social-imperialist labor aristocracy projecting their bullshit on the lumpen. It's no different than Karl Kautsky blaming antisemitism on the lumpen. Our beautiful tradie boys couldn't possibly be bigoted and our beautiful intellectuals couldn't possibly be bigoted so who's left? It all stems from Marx feuding with Bakunin and shitting on the lumpen.

>>4431
Filtered by two intersecting lines. Had I chosen a different flag or no flag at all, which I could've since my opinion has nothing to do with my "religious" beliefs, you wouldn't have read my word salad either way since you're not here to engage different opinions but to circlejerk. My views on sexuality were formed well before I chose to associate myself with Christianity and what I wrote differs little from what others have posted above. Are they mentally harmed by delusions too?

>>3820
Don’t break their heart. Just get it over with

>>4264
Your first point is poorly put but true and your second is absolutely how I experience life

How do you detect closet bisexuals? They can use their het side as a shield.

>>4491
Do something gay in front of them and monitor their reaction.

>>4584
>Gender is a material socio-economic relation
>sex is a superstructure for assigning gender to workers.
Biological sex (male/female reproductive roles, physical labor capacity, etc.) clearly belongs to the material base because it shapes labor organization, inheritance, and class relations. Gender, by contrast, is the superstructure: the set of social and ideological expectations built on top of these material realities.
>You're reversing the base and superstructure.
(You) are reversing them
>"Bio-woman" is an ideal sitting on top of the real working woman.
A biological woman simply is, it's not an ideal to attain. What’s ideal is the notion of ‘womanhood’ as something that can be constructed or purchased

>>4591
Gender is a remnant of feudalism which is primarily about domestic labor. The bourgeoisie do use sex as a means to resolve inheritance disputes but the matter is overhyped. Sex is like race, it's superstructure. Sure, skin color is material but skin color has nothing to do with nations or imperialism.

Semi-relevant
https://www.marxists.org/subject/women/authors/davis-angela/housework.htm
Also read Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital."

>>4591
The "biological woman" is as real as you are a biological redditor. You are so used to bourgoise superstructure trying to muddy any decernment of gender vs sex that simply stating the facts gives you an existential crisis.

Even sex itself is a matter of coincidence, several genes coming together, none totally load bearing. Not the XX vs XY nonsense popsci and unregulated highschool textbooks hammer in, forcing colleges to have to correct and get shit for being "woke" over.

>>4605
I really do think that STEM education should be a package deal where regardless if someone's trhing to be an engineer, doctor, programmer, artist, etc… they should have to take biology, programming, drawing, [insert whatever engineers take idk lol], etc… so that:
1) They're not ignorant to the other stem fields
2) They can draw from the other fields to improve the one they choose to do professionally.

Basically keep the general education going even if someone's clearly going to specialize in something.