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hi, black cishet moid, i don't post on here because i know my kind isn't welcome around here

i'm friends with this mexican transboy (i recently found this out after years of friendship when he revealed he was deliberately hiding it from me) and he seems extremely brainrotted and miserable about being trans but also hates being cis and would kill himself if he had to return to that

he talks about not wanting me to see him as one of "those" trans people (whatever that means) and how being trans is a medical condition with years of study behind it and how it's a literal medical disconnect with your brain and body

the entire thing reads to me like
>"Wait nazis, before you kill me…"
>Takes out crumpled piece of paper from his pocket
>"I have an OFFICIAL decree of transness from the doctor, I'm not like those other transhumanists who fake being trans."
>Curbstomp scene from AHX

i'm assuming this is one of those brainworms, can any of you give me a perspective of on how you beat this kind of thinking or what i could do to shake him out of this?

There are no wrong trans people. The causes of gender dysphoria can vary, but if you have it, you're trans.

Idk I have a friend that's gay but keeps saying "but I'm not part of the lgbt!" as if that means anything. Some people are just brainrotted and there's not much you can do

>>4809
Whats wrong with that?

>>4807
There is nothing wrong with having a medicalized body. Everybody has medical needs and wants. Gender-affirming care is no different. The problem with transmedicalism is that it is a cowardly attempt to de-politicize medicine and transness. "Biological sex" is a political superstructure principally used to assign social divisions of labor in the family. Avoiding the problem by assimilating gender dysphoria into biological sex is simply misogyny.

>>4807
>my kind



 

/lgbt/, I’m depressed. Say something pro-trans
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>>4812
Something pro-trans

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>>4812
Straight Cisgender guy here, I never go on this board for obvious reasons but I saw this on the overboard so I thought it would be nice to say something pro-trans. “I think trans people are good.” Is that good?

I think it is actually cool trans people exist, I always admired that willingness to reshape yourself into form you desire, mind over matter you know? Despite having no contact with trans community IRL, I lurk trans online places because they tend to be filled with intelligent interesting people. Feels like they have a soul, which isnt as common as you might think.

>>4834
>>4835
>Is that good?
Yes, thank you.

>>4840
Your welcome



 

I feel like such a failure as gay guy. the only thing other gay people seem to talk about is sex, yet im 19 and still havent ever experienced sex. I havent even ever been able to get a boyfriend. I cant relate at all to all the things other gays talk about because of how I have no experience. It makes me feel so pathetic and out of place in any online gay community.
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>>4733
Honestly you just gotta be patient and selective. My worst experiences on Grindr happened when I was just looking for a quick lay, but I've met some really cool guys on there that I fucked around with a bit and stayed friends with afterwards. You just gotta seek out people you'd want to interact with even in a non-sexual context.

i think today a guy flirted with me. first time it's ever happened but since i'm a gaycel i didn't try to flirt back or anything. not sure how i'd even attempt to do that

>>4804
Honestly I don't even know what a guy flirting with me looks like because straight guys are super fucking gay-acting nowadays. They will say and do the gayest shit and then turn around and say something hyper-homophobic.

>>4804
How many times do I have to tell you you are not a gaycel?
You sound like a "femcel"
Today I fucked 5 guys but they didn't made me orgasm and I am a bit psycho, #femcelMoment

>>4836
Calm down buddy this isn't 4chan.



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I'm fat queer and autistic and I feel like my entire life I've been made to feel like I am broken and I am wrong and my body is wrong and my feelings are wrong and everything about who I am is wrong and that I need to be fixed. When I was younger I tried very hard to fix myself and be what society expects me to be and I actually made a lot of progress in that respect, but conforming only made me even more miserable, I felt like I lost myself and didn't even know who I was anymore. Now I try to just be myself and be okay with who I am and I'm not so miserable now and I don't hate myself or hate my body anymore, but I still struggle to make a living or be accepted in this world and I still feel like there's no place in the world for someone like me.
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OP here, I think you're missing the point I'm trying to make here, which is about the very real human need for authenticity.

I know this is an utterly taboo idea in our extremely superficial media-oriented capitalist society, but some people are just naturally supposed to be fat, it's part of who they are and changing their bodies and becoming thin to better fit in with mainstream society doesn't make them happy, it makes them miserable.

It's just a matter of self-image, no different than things like gender identity - you see yourself as a certain particular kind of person, that is your internally projected self-image. If you see yourself as a person who is supposed to be thin and you are fat, you will be experience feelings of dysphoria because your body does not match your self-image. Conversely if you naturally see yourself as a fat person but you are pressured to become thin by outside influence, you will experience feelings of dysphoria because your body does not match your self-image. You are who you are.

I feel like we live in this culture/era where authenticity doesn't seem to matter anymore, this "fake it til you make it" social media influencer/self-help ted talk sort of culture where people have no inner sense of self at all, they don't see themselves at all, they see themselves as blanks or wildcards and only think about how they are seen by others, they allow themselves to be defined entirely by outside influence and they live in fear of "cringe" i.e. exposure, having their genuine repressed self publicly laid bare for everyone to see. People see themselves as a broken incomplete work in progress and they put everything in their lives on hold until they are "fixed" and they can conform to social expectations.

So, of course, if someone like me were to come out and say something like "Yes I am fat but that's who I am and I'm perfectly okay with that and I'm not going to change to conform to society; society should change to conform to me." - people who are putting themselves through all this psychological torment by believing they are broken/incomplete and toiling away their lives in vain trying to fix themselves are going to be baffled and likely outraged to hear something like that, to face the possibility that all of their sacrifice and hard work and alienation and depression and pain and suffering, that all of it has been for nothing.

Authenticity, figuring out who you really are and just being yoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>4778
>It makes my saliva feel unnaturally syrupy
worker bee nectar enzymes

>>4800
the modern obesity epidemic is a result of capitalism brother
authenticity is also not a real thing btw, as a living breathing human being you are in a constant state of change
you can choose to be happier and healthier for your own sake rather than needing to impress anyone else
though I would say we have the exact opposite problem in the modern world, too many people (especially powerful people) do not value the opinions of others and do not need to engage in any kind of self-criticism or reflection
under socialism that kind of unflinching individualism would fade away

>>4823
>the modern obesity epidemic

Is this really an epidemic? People have always been fat. There's quite a lot of fatties in the world, billions of them in fact. There have always been fat people, always will be.

Usually disease epidemics eventually end at some point. When is this one going to end? When will I be cured of this disease? When will people who look like me finally be exterminated from the world?

>>4823
>authenticity is also not a real thing btw

Yeah nothing is real this is all a simulation right?

>as a living breathing human being you are in a constant state of change


Yeah, a constant state of change that is largely outside of your control. Sure you can make small adjustments here and there in your life to improve your wellbeing like exercising, moderating your diet, seeing a doctor, deciding whether to transition if you are transgender, etc. but that doesn't mean we have the ability to completely redefine ourselves as we see fit and become avatars. Convincing yourself that you are completely different person is not change, it's just a personality disorder.

Even in the trans community, this kind of thinking is now generally discouraged by gender therapists as outmoded and psychologically damaging, the idea of "re-birthing" and repressing and erasing your pre-transition self and pretending like you never existed. Pretending you don't exist is not healthy, it's psychotic. Authenticity actually matters, regardless of the weird post-truth social media dystopia we now find ourselves living in.



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That is, the idea that being trans is in some way caused by socialization and has no physiological component (ie brain differences, hormonal abnormalities, etc) to it at all. I keep seeing other lefty people, both trans and cis, repeat this. I'm not even going to get into all the evidence that points towards a physiological origin because my real point is that I honestly find the idea just really invalidating and kind of offensive. It's as if they're saying my dysphoria isn't real, that transness is equivalent to being a fashion choice and I just need to get over it or find a more accepting community or whatever instead of transition being a medical necessity.
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>>4742
1. Transsexualism only became possible relatively recently. How could people in previous centuries have alleviated their dysphoria without HRT? Social transition is also pointless if you look like a man.
2. The cause of gender dysphoria, as far as I know, is a hormonal imbalance and a longer version of the androgen receptor gene.
Testosterone levels in people decline over the years; look at photos of people from about 100 years ago: some women there would now be clocked as trans. Also, due to a decline in natural selection, mutations like a longer androgen receptor gene may be increasingly common.

>>4785
>жду с нетерпением времени открытия науки кастрации
>[I am] impatiently looking forward to the discovery of the science of castration
so based it's unbelievable. book name?

>>4786
Половая Жизнь Современной Молодёжи. 1923 год

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"Автоэротизм" 1911: An example of a cis female AGP

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Bathroom question in 20th century



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okay so i don't even know what but i guess i'll ask people here about this. i'm afab but have gender dysphoria that i've only recently became aware of, but transitioning doesn't really seem to be the best option for me. ik the people on this board will try to convince me otherwise but i'm short as hell, very feminine body, etc. i don't understand why people think transition is either the best thing in the world for people with gender dysphoria or the moral equivalent to 9/11, like i really feel whether transition is good for someone comes down to considering 1. will you pass and 2. will you be happy even if you don't pass. and if the answer to both of these is "no" then you probably shouldn't transition. idk!

>>4720
>very feminine body
resulting from what? if it's mostly due to gynoid fat distribution it's fixable, however since you mentioned being short you'll likely have more trouble adhering to a caloric deficit. you'll also possibly need to gain muscle in some spots after fat loss and eat at a surplus

if you don't want to transition then don't
afab enbies are pretty common. if you don't have dysphoria about your body then don't worry about it and just do whatever alleviates the dyshporia.

that said, it's generally easier to pass if you are FtM than MtF, mostly due to how masculinization works and being irreversible through hormones alone.

>don't understand why people think transition is either the best thing in the world for people with gender dysphoria
Because from what I have heard it is the best way to prevent suicide, and most trans people are very suicidal/depressive and HRT improves their mental health even if they don't pass

>like i really feel whether transition is good for someone comes down to considering 1. will you pass and 2. will you be happy even if you don't pass. and if the answer to both of these is "no" then you probably shouldn't transition. idk!
No, HRT really reduces dysphoria, even without social changes. It’s not placebo

At least you don’t need to hurry. You can pass as FTM even if you start HRT in 30yrs



 

Ka Daisy, a NPA guerilla and trans woman, was martyred after a confrontation with 5 battalions in Barangay Tapi on April 27th. She was known for teaching literacy and math to members of her squad who were uneducated and always carrying a makeup kit in her guerilla supplies.

"As an LGBT youth our role is important in advancing revolution. to change society's views we must change society herself"

rest in power to one of our own!
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>>761
Rest in power. Very based.

rest in power

Rest in power.
Really cool to be hearing about this.

>Daisy
>Filipina guerilla fighter
>Died fighting
Is this the sequel to Daisy's Destruction?

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Asking as a transhumanist, I find it incredibly hard to find reliable resources on how it is in the PRC, and since the Chinese internet is fairly insular and I don't speak Chinese I don't really get the opportunity to talk with queer people from China much. I am aware they very much have their own subcultures and would like to learn about them if anyone has anywhere to point me.

China seems somewhat decent when it comes to transgender rights, but societal attitudes still seem to be pretty transphobic. Atleast according to what ive read on prolewiki, that is.

I remember there was a lot of queer users on XiauHongShu well before the TikTok exodus. Comment sections seemed pretty normal, though now that XHS requires face ID I can't check anymore.

>>4629
Were they tiktok refugees or chinese people?

>>4631
Chinese people, yeah. Hence my specificatian that it was before the TikTok exodus.



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WAHHHH I just wanna be a faggy little deerboy but I’m trapped in this dumb big boy body and it’s so annoying. i just want to be a cute little bisexual dear who beautiful women of all genders fawn (heh) over but instead I have this!!!! I thought I was trans for so long but I think I’m just nb and annoyed by my boy body but doing girl stuf and transitioning made the confusion worse. AHHH!!!!!

Im built too boyish for my outside to match my inside AHHH
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i too wish i was a twink. or hunkish. i would honestly be anyone else that isn't myself

>>4542
But i just want to be a femboy and possibly also a girl, i dont want to just be relagated to just "non-binary"
>>4493
Is it even worth taking estrogen then if it wont even prevent my twink death? My life is basically over when i hit twink death, besides my body is laready incredibly masculine enough as is. I want to cry, why was i cursed like this

op again and I’ve done some thinking. The thing you’re missing is that non binary isn’t good enough. Being a femboy isn’t right or good enough.

I’ve been promised success in embodying an archetype if only I try, work out, improve my social skills. I can be anything, and that neurosis is buried so deep within me and I don’t know if it’ll ever come out. It’s compounded by contemporary theories of gender that suggest it’s all constructed and I can just choose. I actually agree with that completely, but it doesn’t soothe the ache of being unable to fundamentally, ontologically change my entirety to match an interiority that’s just. Fabricated. It doesn’t exist. It’s all ego. But I can’t square any of it.

I think I just need to meditate and find acceptance or soemthing but it hurts so much

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does before hoes

>>4542
I think it sounds like he is fat



 

anyone else born in the gheto finds it hard to reconsile their desire to be violent and desire to be feminine?
i'm drunk so bear with me, i was born and raised by parents who got raised in pretty fucked up backgrounds, grandpa had multiple families and dad has been threatened with guns multiple times, they managed to stay off the streets because they're just fucking excellent at all they do.
dad was the best student maybe ever, and still got his score lowered by teachers who hated him but just couldn't deny him at least a near perfect grade.
mom was a bit harder, i can't think of something that didn't happen to her, she has brothers she doesn't even know, grandpa was an asshole when young, she and her brothers lived in a house they were occupying under shaky legal grounds up to this day.

and i've had a few things, they tried to keep me off the street, quite literally i wasn't allowed outside til i was like 7
and since then a lot of shit happened

up to the point where i'm bordering on lumpen and i can't fucking deal with knowing i was meant to be a criminal, i picked up the habits and i was good at surviving but i didn't want to worry my parents.

and now i'm just here still letting them down, couldn't even join the military because i'm a transhumanist

i guess this is motly a trans issue but what have you sacrificed for being yourself?

i feel so at the edge and at the same time right at the center of the hurricane
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>>4595

not so much a desire but a reflex tbh
i was gonna say "desire to be strong" but it's more of a reflex, not so much a desire since what i really wanted was to be able to defend myself.

I have gender dysphoria - i go through HRT. It’s not about your character

>>4599

can't afford that shit here yet

>hard to reconsile their desire to be violent and desire to be feminine?
There is nothing inherently contradictory about femininity and violence.
>>4595
Cis women get spooked into "nonviolence" too despite not being "socialized as men"

You can project strength without acting wantonly violent. Remaining entirely calm and confident while being challenged, like in that yes chad meme, is one of the most female-coded expressions of powers there is. If you are actually prepared to engage in violence or retaliate is ultimately only tangential to both.



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