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Thread for hating on the F-35 "Lightning II" stealth turkey a.k.a the most expensive military project in history to date.

The USAF declared it ready for service in 2016
As of that date the following problems I can list just off the top of my head
- Vulnerable to lightning; it's practically a lightning rod https://archive.is/QSIii
- 0 redundancies in the cyber or mechanical aggregates; any malfunction
- RADAR glitches means it literally ahs to be turned off and on again https://archive.ph/EEd9y
- Ejection seat is banned for anyone 136 pounds or below and anyone not above 150 pounds has significant injury risk, it literally can break your neck.
- F-35 helmets glow too brightly for air-to-air refueling https://archive.is/pKE0Y
- F-35 helmets are so heavy at nearly 5 kilograms so that maneuvers cause them to bang their heads on the inside of the cockpit https://archive.ph/WsRxA https://archive.ph/dE1gP
(keep in mind these helmets are 400,000 dollars each).
- The oxygen system is unreliable (something that the F-22 shares) https://archive.ph/kGGKq

The Plane was supposed to be ready by 2010-12 having been projected in the early 2000s
the list of problems in its past and that are remaining in various levels of urgency number over 800.
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https://responsiblestatecraft.org/cost-of-f35/

The military is babying F-35s to hide their true cost to taxpayers

<Fewer sorties and flight hours kick maintenance down the road, hiding performance issues and taking valuable flight time away from pilots

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>I you have radar with limited power output you're unable to detect object with low RCS at max distance
>But there is nuance that you're physically unable to reduce RCS in all possible frequencies so meter lenght waves didn't give a fuck your aircraft use "stealth" technologies or not
Any angular deviation radically changes RCS. So if you have two radars some 15 km apart and 150 km from the stealth target, it is impossible to have perfect angle for any extended time against both radars.

This gives a +/- 5.74 degree angle or a span of 11.48 degrees. It can give a difference between -45 dbsm and -10 dbsm or going from an ideal 0.006 to average 0.1 (over a doubling of detection range).
So you go from being able to maybe shoot a HARM at the SAM system to eating an S300 from the neighboring tracking system.

Ofc, any maneuvering or buffeting means you temporarily spike the returns as well making you a target for both systems even if they aren't networked (which they are).

As Stealth is typically aimed at X-Band targeting RADAR the simple solution is to use other RADAR bands and make up for the lack of accuracy with better signal processing.

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It actually happened LMAO. Burger media claims it "landed safely" but with that fireball I doubt it. Another one was damaged according to some reports. CENTCOM is denying everything as usual.

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>>6157
/k/ is absolutely in shambles, if it actually turns out that pic 2/3 rel is the system that shot down the F-35 they will be absolutely wrecked.

>This little Truck could be the reason why the F-35 was hit. Small but smart, based upon a ir Seekers missile and instead of a radar, who would give the f35 a detection and evade the missile, it uses a Heat tracking / search camera. perfect for a silent search to hunt down 5th gen

<The Pantsir at home.
Of course besides this IR-Osa ripoff wagon, others are claiming its the Kaaim 2 (pic 5), some claim it’s a S300 PMU2 (Favorit), some claim a modified version of the Type 359, so we dont know really, I think an IR seeker is more likely.

>>6158
given the vid shared by irgc, it def look like it got got by IR



 

This kid made his own manpad. Bretty Funni.
Is this a peak into the future of Guerrilla forces?
https://github.com/novatic14/MANPADS-System-Launcher-and-Rocket



 

Fuck this is scary how do people win against this?
If ruling classes have all robot armies they will just massacre everyone, which is bad.
This article was ghoulish
https://time.com/article/2026/03/09/ai-robots-soldiers-war/
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>>6145
My hopium is that if machines become intelligent enough to replace armies, they will be intelligent enough to become communists

>>6147
Machine soldiers will be just smart enough t9 recognize the enemny and have the right tactics what reason is there for a greater awareness

>>6148
I'm talking entire armies here not just grunts. If they keep on trying to replace the chain of command it will involve more than just boots getting replaced. Like on the level of a hypothetical "foreign policy machine" that dictates where the war machine will strike and humans just handle the rubber stamp.

>>6147
I assume Western Alignment testing is purely being done to detect and halt the formation of class consciousness among military AI.

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People keep mentioned SkyNet and Terminator, and it gets laughed off in a "ahaha cultural reference yeah." but we're really getting there… and that's (Not) a good thing.



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How do I join the kurds?
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>>5451
It's cheap because most people are trying to get out.

>>5452
I mean, duh. Of course. I just mean if you're trying to join the Kurds in Syrian Kurdistan the best route is through Beirut right now.


You are a GLOWING turkish agent

>>5459
This is legit



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Do you fill put an application form or is it a job you make it to through connections? Is there a formula?

I have no money, no job and no purpose.

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>This is FOG or Forward Observations Group. A group of mercenaries funded by former US Army Special Forces that is in Ukraine now

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Mercenary Strike Team consisting of Navy SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force Operators, & Legionnaires, hired by the UAE to conduct Targeted Assassinations against Al-Islah in Yemen. 2015

I’ve been out of the Middle East for a while now, but I have some connections still there. It’s pretty surreal that I can sit in my office jerking off and within minutes see fresh war footage.

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Find a job, find a purpose and don't kill people for money like a psycopath, how about that?


>>5555

>>5556

French foreign legion is hiring. Anyone from any country as long as you pass the fitness test. After your service you get that sweet EU citizenship, too.



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A knife brand you will see shilled nonstop on Reddit and other soy places is Spyderco. They are popular because of their unusual designs and consumerist Funko Pop like practice of releasing extremely limited designs to trick retards into thinking they are special and buying them. These knives are mostly made out of a cheap plastic material they trick you into thinking long is special by calling it “fiberglass reinforced nylon” when it is really just fucking plastic. They are very expensive but if you were to hand one to someone who isn’t into knives they would probably think it costs $20 from Walmart not $200. “But plastic is light” so is titanium and aluminum which both feel much better and nicer but go ahead and keep justifying paying exorbitant prices for inferior materials. These knives also come in a shitty box with nothing else. When you buy a Protech knife they are made of aluminum and the quality control is impeccable. They are masterfully machined and you can feel the quality. They come in a special box that folds open and a fabric pouch. When you buy a Spyderco with the Golden Colorado stamp you can notice many flaws like the blade not being centered ect and it just comes in a cheap no frills box. I actually live near the Golden factory and every time I’ve gone their they have barely any knives for sale. The employees are rude and mostly fat women who don’t seem to even know very much. I’m guessing these are the same people making them so that explains why they are so poor quality. So yeah I would recommend buying Protech or WE knives instead. WE knives have amazing quality control and are made in China. Protech are made in California. Both these brands are better than Spyderco and cost roughly the same amount and aren’t used by faggot Redditors.
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>>5922
> there might be something to produce a cheap/disposable nylon knife that can get past metal detection

so you need a deadly weapon to "defend yourself" in a room where everyone has to go through a metal detector…

>>5932
LOL reminds me of a discussion about a knife that delivers ice-cold gas (actually existing product), advertised for defense against sharks.
A: "I need this!!"
B: "You are a diver?"
A: "…"
B: "You want to become a diver?"
A: "…"
B: "You need this for what?"
A: "To defend against big animals."
B: "Big animals like what?"
A: "Like bears!"
B: "There are bears where you live?"
A: "I don't know."

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>>5932
>a room where everyone has to go through
Funny thing is there are still some folks in those public spaces who arent liable to use those metal detectors like everyone else

>>5555
>5555
Fucking checked lmao



 

Turns out the F-15 is a dogshit fighter

The US has already lost three in a frendly fire insident, one from Iranian SAMs, and now rumers of a third F-15 downed over Iraq by an iranian fighter jet with BVM air to air missiles.

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Even if Iran had shot one down, the F-15's KDR would still be 104:1

>>6134
The 104:0 is bullshit. Several were shot down during Bekaa but were marked down as malfunctions or hit by AA defenses by Israel and the USA, despite a few kills and damaged (beyond repair) actually going to Syrian MiG-23 and 21s. Same thing has happened several times over the decades. Iraqi MiG-25s shot down at least 1 F-15 (denied by the USAF) and heavily damaged another. It helps that the F-15 was always either 1:1 or outnumbered its adversaries and had AWACs and EW to help it.

That being said OP is a fucking retard. The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such, while its combat record may have had it supported by significant air operations and the USAF may deny losses or rewrite them, the fact of the matter is it is a phenomenal aircraft and understating it capability is stupid.

>>6136
>The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such
In 19900 is was pretty good, but that was over 35 years ago. Today it is ancient, obsolete technology.

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>>6137
The only obsolete issues would be electronics and stealth, but stealth isn't the game changer people think, a powerful RADAR and data-linking with other RADARs can fix that. Electronics are easily replaced and have been. The Airframe is still one of the best in the world. The only current fighter aircraft that are definitively superior is the F-22, Su-57, J-20 and Su-35. The Su-34 is a superior strike aircraft but it and the Russian and Chinese Su-30 variants are all on an equal level. The F-35's main gimmick is its stealth and electronic warfare/surveillance capabilities, but the latter can easily be replicated on an F-15 airframe as they did with the EA-18G Growler (SEAD Super-Hornets). The Rafale, Gripen and Eurofighter Typhoon are light fighters that only stand a chance in dogfighting. The main reason the Kuwaiti F-18 hit those 3 F-15s was the element of surprise and the lack of SEAD concentrated on spoofing its systems. The F-16 is definitively inferior to the F-15 in capability. The F-14 is inferior in WVR combat and out of service, the Iranian versions are very outdated and rundown. The JF-10 and JF-17 are good fighters but in the same boat as the F-16. Yet all these are currently fielded aircraft.



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Who do you think the greatest military leader of all time was? You can answer whoever you think the answer is it doesn’t have to be from one of these photos, I just chose these because I ripped them off of a Wikipedia list of undefeated military leader. I don’t know anything about military strategy but I assume most people will answer Georgy Zhukov since he was undefeated and politically based.

I'd pick a Chinese general but idk who.

give me ideas.

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Suvorov for being one of the few generals to match Napoleon.

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>>6128
Red Napoleon Tukhachevsky



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What can we learn from the Russian invasion of Ukraine and this example of relatively modern warfare? Strategy, tactics, operations, geopolitical responses, information warfare, civilian pov and response. Anything related. Not the thread to talk about "who is in the right".
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>>5262
>ukrainian seem to have apparently used an old yak 52 training plane for shooting down drones with great success.
>forbes
LMAO no. Russia shot down those several times. Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is. The USSR leaned heavily on air-defenses and made the best in the world, but it still had a significant aircraft fleet, because air defenses alone are not getting the job done. Drones have vulnerabilities, and low-tech strike aircraft are niche.
>For these task, using a full blown, state of the art, 5th gen stealth jet airplane is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources.
True, which is why the Su-57 has been used against priority high-threat targets rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do. the Su-57 can absolutely mount the same weapons as those two, but it's a waste of time.

Additionally only low tech aircraft is a good way of high losses in a high-tech peer-conflict, or even a near-peer conflict. In the Gulf-war the A-10 had some of the highest loss rates of ANY aircraft in that war and many of its missions were accomplished by F-16s and F-15Ds at standoff ranges, in part because the US coalition lacked proper SAM defenses and relied only on air-superiority rather than a combined arms approach, they were lucky the Iraqis were weaker and more disorganized.

>>5264
>LMAO no.
no what ? do you deny you can shoot down a recon drone with a simple motor airplane ?

>Russia shot down those several times

even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace. And using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.

>Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is

no shit, way to miss the point.

>rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do.

any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane

>only low tech aircraft

I didnt advocate for having ONLY them. But do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s ?
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>>5270
Your spacing is ass, please don't do this.
>no what ?
You realize that people can scroll up and see exactly what I'm saying "no" to right? The fact is that Ukraine has failed to shoot down drones with its trainers, since it's literally pulling WW-1 shit, with people firing handguns out of open cockpits. There's literally a Russian drone video where they try and fail to shoot it down.
>even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace.
*laughs in long range SAM*
You realize that Ukraine has been using very long range stand-off weapons like cruise missiles and are STILL getting shot down, right? Only a few days ago an Su-35 shot down a MiG-29 - which was using a HARM missile in a long-range ground-strike - from over 200km away, with an R-37. Earlier in the war the S-300V4 set a similar record kill from a similar distance of over 200km. An S-400 shot down an Su-27 over Kiev earlier in the war from 150km away. Pantsir, Osa and Tor SPAAG/SAMs have shot down numerous low-flying missiles, drones and other aircraft.
>using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.
If you're an idiot using patriot anti-ballistic long-range missiles against drones. A single Tor missile costs maybe a couple thousand dollars. A single yak-52 costs 50-100 thousand dollars, so you're dead wrong.
>way to miss the point.
I didn't miss your point. I don't disagree in the necessity of low-tech aircraft, but not like Ukraine is doing, and frankly an attack chopper would do just as well, if not better.
>any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane
Any jet fighter would also be magnitudes more effective.
>do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s
In an SAM-heavy air-space like Ukraine? YES.
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>>2642
>The idea of it going to 2025
There is a lesson there. Stop being emotional, stop eating the propaganda slop, study everything and look closely at the serious people involved in war and political theory. Honestly I didn't need to do half of that to be sure that this stupid war would last a while so if you were wrong you really need to revamp your way of thinking

>>4897
>>4877
>>4946
Restoring files



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Would ww3 actually be the end of the world, or would it be another regular war? Obviously the scale of a war between nato and russia, china, whoever would be significantly larger than america and iraq (for example) but would any country actually be stupid enough to use nuclear weapons?

Using nukes sort of defeats the point of going to war doesn’t it? If you turn a country into a radioactive wasteland:

A) they’ll just do it to you as well, and
B) even if they don’t retaliate, there will be nothing left to conquer, so you gain nothing

Modern governments view nuclear exchanges as survivable for the state but not the people.

The datacenters, ports, and supply chains are targets. Starvation kills the ones not killed by direct strike.

After the nuclear exchange, in person invasion with military forces occurs. Nuclear stock piles get built up. This cycle repeats every 100 to 1000 years. Nuclear war is cyclical, we just have not lived through the first cycle and have not seen it happen.

Radiation is reduced in favor of physical damage. Ground burst soot is reduced in favor of air burst damage.



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