/edu/ - Education

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my eh fucking zizek impression is eh getting fucking better you know and so on and eh so on

Hello, anyone has a book about how a socialist economy would work? Beside Cockshott, of course, anyone beside him that tried to envision a socialist economy?

Engels was wrong.

theanarchistlibrary is pretty much a blog platform anyone can submit their diatribes to

wrong link other thread is fixed one

>>23775
>often you don't really make money until you start your own business. It's pushing petite-bourg stuff to disaffected young men.
start an HVAC cooperative, fat

Guys. I think its over for western academia. I've been out of college for years but started taking online courses. Trying to major in STEM, but I have to take a cultural awareness class. Cool, fine. I like social studies and am a bit of an SJW anyhow. This class keeps going on about DEI in online spaces. How the fuck does that make sense? We're fucking online. Unless I see a picture or someone tells me, how the fuck would I know their cultural background? As for the STEM, turns out there's a lot of math in data in analytics I'll never understand. But, with AI that doesn't matter either, since I just put everything through that. Lol, I think it's solidly over for the west and their snooty BS neo-lib institutions.

>>24515
>But, with AI that doesn't matter either, since I just put everything through that. Lol, I think it's solidly over for the west and their snooty BS neo-lib institutions.

People need to stop pushing this meme..AI isn't gonna replave human effort completely. It's just another glorified tool, not unlike calculators.

Also the problem with western academia is that people think it's a golden ticket to cushy desk jobs

>>24381
>I agree and it's why I will never do a trade, particularly when we as a society don't have a sufficient social safety net for anyone who gets a work place related injury. This is why the trades pay even less than what they pay in actuality. Even then, the per hour earnings of a tradesmen suck for quite a few years.

The real reason why trades pay less is because theyre less likely to have student loan debt compared to degrees.
Also while trades aren't guaranteed cushy living, you have more steady employment

The problem is, trades are looked down upon because people think getting a degree will get them big money more efficiently

>The other problem with the trades is that having completed an apprenticeship in {X} is not as transferable as a bachelors degree in {Y}. Many jobs just require the bachelors. Very few jobs require some sort of apprenticeship. It's why I think tech apprenticeships are a horrible idea. If you end up not becoming a developer, that credential is worthless.

Well, Ive heard from a guy who is an IT guy that the main problem with computer industry nowadays is the lack of hardware skills.
Most IT guys are only trained in software but are unable to troubleshoot hardware issues.

>Further, employers are not going to teach you the skills you need to job hop or keep up with the industry for decades like a degree SHOULD by covering the math, theory, etc. of computer science itself. Many CS degrees don't do that THOUGH. I've met people who were straight up failed by their degrees. I didn't even complete my CS degree until after I became a dev so I think I'm qualified to make this claim.

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>>24527
Ya, I know what an LLM is. A lot of people think these chat bots are literally skynet for some reason. Though, I wouldn't say college edu in the west isnt helpful for getting better jobs. Why else in USA would it be as cost prohibitive as it is? USA needs to do something about school cost. Everyone should attend college. People should know shit, and know how to do it. Western academia is just inundated with a multitude of problems and retarded ass ideas.

>>24495
Why shouldn't there be entrance exams to higher education?
Most non western countries have entrance exams for all grade levels of education.
We have screening for working folk yet education is supposed to be universalised in entry?

Don't you understand this is why we are seeing a decline in academic competency in students?
This whole "muh inequality" when it comes to higher education is why it's bourgeois

It's why we have so many students wrecking their livelihoods on electives to finish a degree they may not be fully learned about on

They say that around two-thirds of college students drop out before finishing their degree.

Anyone who wants to attend college should be evaluated to see what competency level they're at
And, it should be multi faceted.

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>>24506
The entirety of your premise hinges on the contingency of entrance exams as being the most suitable proxy. This is way too fatalist.
The reason there's a 'decline in competency' has so much more to do with other factors than exams; digitization of attention spans, AI 'assisted' 'learning' as a means of bypassing all actual work both internal and external, slashing of funding of higher education for decades, cultural priorities conflicting with the objectivity of curricular materials, inconsistent quality of education across different institutions and even professors within the same institution (due to tenure basically immunizing shitty practices), I could go on.
Point is, the insinuation you're making is indistinguishable from conservatives screaming about MUH DEI LOW EYE QUEUE. This outlook is anathema to the dynamism necessarily inherent in the process of learning, and thus, education.

>>24522
And I really should emphasize the funding part a bit more. If you want to be a materialist you'd be better off appealing to actual material circumstances rather than mystifying the pre-existing 'aptitudes' of students in an essentialist way.

>>24522
>much more to do with other factors than exams; digitization of attention spans, AI 'assisted' 'learning' as a means of bypassing all actual work both internal and external, slashing of funding of higher education for decades, cultural priorities conflicting with the objectivity of curricular materials, inconsistent quality of education across different institutions and even professors within the same institution (due to tenure basically immunizing shitty practices), I could go on.

Also it could be that higher education is overemphasised as mandatory for adult living?

We live in a time where most adults spend more time in school than ever before and we see a decline in industrial and social skills.

We have people who can solve algebraic equations without needing a calculator yet they cannot boil auygh or tall to the opposite sex.
Also"digitization of attention spans" is a convenient scapegoat. Irony is, in the old days, curriculum for the average student was way less before the 1970s.
Most kids didn't graduate high school then.
That all changed by the 80s.
Also there has been a recent reduction of playtime for kids.
Alot of educational figures say that playtime is the ultimate brain food.
Forcing kids to sit in class doing paperwork for longer periods of time instead of having more hands on subjects is part of the problem

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>>24522
Why are average adults, especially those born before the Internet, whenever they're asked about what they learned in school, their minds go blank?

But hey can remember all the dumb teenage shenanigans they committed?

Why is it that college educated folk have a harder time finding work and are often outcompeted by people who didn't go to college but did straight up labor from their youth?

I encounter more resourceful folk with no higher education and college educated people who need help in everything.

If you're just getting into studying the USSR then I recommend you read E.H. Carr's books and/or Charles Bettelheim's Class Struggles in the USSR.

I read it a couple of months ago and enjoyed it. I found the discussion about the term ”professional revolutionary” especially interesting.

>>24344 (me)
I have almost finished his Lenin biography, so I can recommend that book and this one also because Lars knows historiography and uses up-to-date sources from the archives released in the 90s.

Better than the ones where Lenin touches upon nationality, for sure.

>>24467
for indigenous societies in brazil read florestan fernandes, curt nimuendaju, ronaldo vainfas, joão azevedo fernandes and eduardo viveiros de castro. there are some indigenous writers such as david kopenawa and ailton krenak
http://www.etnolinguistica.org/
this repository is useful

This one was pretty ground breaking to me, I had no idea that some people in the Owen's Valley were practicing agriculture, and even if I did, I would have naively assumed they were just planting corn.

>>24473
Mexico is a large country because of Spanish colonialism. It's one of the largest Latin American countries, and it shares a border with the US. The mesoamerican ruins aren't responsible for that. It's the other way around.

>>24484
>Mexico is a large country because of Spanish colonialism.
but that was not what i asked

Farming Was Extensive in Ancient North America, Study Finds

A new study has found that a thickly forested sliver of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula is the most complete ancient agricultural location in the eastern United States. The Sixty Islands archaeological site is recognized as the ancestral home of the Menominee Nation. Known to the members of the tribe as Anaem Omot (Dog’s Belly), the area is a destination of pilgrimage, where remains of the settlement date to as far back as 8,000 B.C.

Located along a two-mile stretch of the Menominee River, Sixty Islands is defined by its cold temperatures, poor soil quality and short growing season. Although the land has long been considered unsuitable for farming, an academic paper published on Thursday in the journal Science revealed that the Menominee’s forbears cultivated vast fields of corn and potentially other crops there.

“Traditionally, intensive farming in former times has been thought to be mostly limited to societies that had centralized power, large populations and a hierarchical structure, often with accumulated wealth,” said Madeleine McLeester, an environmental archaeologist at Dartmouth College and lead author of the study. “And yet until now the assumption has been that the agriculture of the Menominee community in the Sixty Islands area was small in scale, and that the society was largely egalitarian.”

The findings of the new survey indicate that from A.D. 1000 to 1600 the communities that developed and maintained the fields were seasonally mobile, visiting the area for only a portion of the year. They modified the landscape to suit their needs, by clearing forest, establishing fields and even amending the soil to make fertilizer.

>Mapping an ancient site

In the spring of 2023, when the snow cover was gone but the leaves had not yet emerged, Dr. McLeester and her team conducted a drone-based LIDAR survey over some 330 remarkably intact acres of Sixty Islands, about 40 percent of the site.

LIDAR uses pulses of laser light to create a detailed map of Earth’s surface. Over the last decade, archaeologists have relied heavily on the technology; drone-based LIDAR has only become practical or possible within the last few years. “It provides much higher resolution, which enables us to recognize subtle features that would otherwise be invisible,” said Jesse Casana, the Dartmouth archaeologPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>24158
I'd recommend Behrooz Ghamari-Tabrizi's books. He was Marxist activist during the revolution and a political prisoner under Khomeini's rule. He's very even handed, has a good insight into both leftists and Islamist activism in the 70s and 80s, he even shared a cell with Khamaeini once. He has a regular column in Counterpunch and his book Remembering Akbar is very good. I'd also recommend the book Critical Introduction to Khomeini edited by Adib-Moghaddam.

The problem with a lot of Iranian history is it was written by the losers, people who fled Iran during the 80s. There are all kinds of specious narratives about the Iranian revolution that diaspora Iranians (including academic historians) like to spread around. One common stereotype in Middle East history is a grand narrative that you have this traditional Islamic bad culture vs secular progressive forces trying to overcome that culture and the entire history of the region is just a culture war between these two factions and you'll see this pop up all the time. Tabrizi sees this as an example of secular fundamentalism and it appears in the books of many Iranian historians too.

>>24158
>the Revolution was hijacked by Islamists and turned Iran into a theocratic dystopia
This is a myth that was promoted by leftists who fled Iran in the 80s. Pretty much everyone in Iran in the 70s and in 1979 was 1. Pro-Khomeini 2. Believed in the importance of Islam or that Islam should have some role in government etc. What that role should be and what role Khomeini should play was where people disagreed. Even the avowedly atheist leftists in Iran had to bend to the overwhelming Islamic sentiment. They often had an attitude of "there is no God but unlike Christianity Islam is a revolutionary religion" etc. and then a good chunk of leftists were devout Muslims or at least sympathetic to Qutb and Shariati. A good chunk of Islamists also had leftist sympathies, especially Ayatollahs Taleghani and Behishti, Ali Shariati etc. there was a whole Islamic left that's been suppressed in Iran since the 80s. Mir Hossein Mousavi and the Green Movement fall into this Islamic left socialist camp.

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>>24204
Marxallah, we found a liberal I was just speaking of your kin.

>>24204
>Tudeh was a minor player in the actual revolution in 1979. The Soviets actually quit funding them because they thought they were a useless non-entity with little actual influence in Iran.
This misunderstands Abrahamian's perspective. By the time of the Iranian Revolution, the Tudeh had indeed become marginalized, but this wasn't always so. I find his focus on the Tudeh interesting precisely because it is important to analyze the historical developments that caused its demise, all while Iran continued and intensified its process of industrialization, modernization and, crucially, subordination to imperialist interests.

It was never a bad idea for a Marxist to ask oneself the question "what the fuck just happened?" after a religious national-bourgeois revolution when conditions were ripening for a communist one. In Iran, often considered the birthplace of modern Islamist politics as a mass movement, the question is yet more urgent.

>>24516
I feel like its possible the Tudeh party was never as popular as people like Abrahamian tell us it was and this is a result of historians like him focusing too much on Tudeh at the expense of other groups in Iran. Abrahamian is an old fashioned new left Marxist and for him the victory of a socialist faction is how history should have played out but didn't. So he goes looking for the biggest Marxist faction (Tudeh) and tries to ask "why did it fail?" and you do that you wind up developing tunnel vision.

>It was never a bad idea for a Marxist to ask oneself the question "what the fuck just happened?" after a religious national-bourgeois revolution when conditions were ripening for a communist one. In Iran, often considered the birthplace of modern Islamist politics as a mass movement, the question is yet more urgent.
The problem is the way in which Marxists approach this history. They are too teleological and misapply Marx's theories. Marx warned the Russian socialists not to take his history of capitalist development as a universal model that could be applied to Russia because his own work was based on studies of Germany, France, and Britain. But Marxists try to interpret Iranian history through Marx's history of Western Europe. "Well, socialist revolution is the next stage, so why didn't it happen? Maybe Iran was too feudal? was Khomeini a bourgeois nationalist or a fascist?" These are the wrong kinds of questions to be asking because Iran isn't Western Europe and stickers like "feudal" or "bourgeois nationalist" aren't something you can just paste onto every human society.

Iran also is a problem for Marxist historians because it defies their theories of revolution. Before 1979, the Iranian economy was growing, inequality was a serious issue but poverty was decreasing etc. The revolution wasn't motivated by socioeconomic grievances. Khomeini himself once declared that 'we didn't overthrow the Shah because of the price of bread.' Before 1978, US diplomats saw Iran as an island of stability. Nobody predicted the revolutionary outbreak between 1978 and 1979. I'd also say that Islamist mass politics really begun in the 1910s, anti-colonial movements based on Islam go all the way back to the 1900s. Foucault's writing on Iran have always been controversial because he pointed these things out. Islam was a drivingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>24425
>Every time you post, it will be at the top of the overboard. Just fucking post in the thread regularly without saging and people will see it.
Why don't you do it then?

>>24429
Huh? I already am bumping this thread when I could be saging it. It's not my thread either, I have no care if it lives or dies, but I am helping you keep it alive at this very moment.

>>24430
Ok bro keep bumping and educating all 0 IPs per 10 years

>All you've done so far is link to youtube videos anyone could find by searching: "Learn Chinese" on youtube.
guy posting baby sensory videos: "its over, I've given up all hope, you can continue if you want, I don't see the point if no one takes my contributions seriously as a geopolitical project that actively avoids touching any school or library"

你们有人会说中文吗？我已经学了八年了。。。