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A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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Starting to nibble at Harding and Lih's analyses of Lenin's thought as far as political theory goes—one embarrassing note being that I just discovered Cottrell's response to that Austrian Engelhardt about his work and have only come out of it resolute that I don't know nearly enough about optimization


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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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pdfs are proletarian


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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>The USSR was socialist according to Marx
Okay let's look at what he said. Marx had the Paris Communes as his main inspiration of the dictatorship of the proletariat. We can see this here :
<"Of late, the social-democratic philistine has once more been filled with wholesome terror at the words: Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Well and good, gentlemen, do you want to know what this dictatorship looks like? Look at the Paris Commune. That was the Dictatorship of the Proletariat." - Engels, in the introduction of 1891 to the Civil War in France
<"It was essentially a working class government, the product of the struggle of the producing against the appropriating class, the political form at last discovered under which to work out the economical emancipation of labor." - Marx, in the same book
Now, the Commune had : representative delegates, repossession of the means of productions to give to the workers in the forms of co-ops, democractic assemblies to decide on how to govern. Again, this for Marx was meant to be an intermediate state of repossession of the political and economic power.

Now, let's look at the soviets : no representatives in the soviets, bureaucratic management by the Party of the economy, 70 years of "transition"
That's quite a lot of differences. It is true that originally, Lenin had set out to give the soviets (i.e. the local democratic councils) the political power, which would've indeed ressembled closer to the Commune. However, this did not come to be due to a plurality of factors, hence making the USSR a bureaucratic Party-State with peculiar productive relations.


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I just watched the Matrix Trilogy (AGP classic; literally made by trans women and is trans culture) and it inspired me to get into continental (and even analytic) philosophy; I especially want to get into the former as the latter seems to be getting at about the same conclusions but it takes them longer and is dogmatic (and also Chomsky is tied to Epstein). Regardless of Deleuze's character I was going to start with schizophrenia and capitalism but I discovered the reading list in linkrel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz4DvIJlZow

So I'm going to start with Kant's critique of pure reason for now and work my way up.

At the same time I have also read about half of the Ego and it's own and fear that I am wasting my time doing this as I can already intuit some of the ideas and their implications while consciously knowing that I'll gain far more insight doing it the hard way.

For people who have read a lot of philosophy, what do you think? Is it better to be patient or start with the harder texts and reread them?


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Wtf do I actually read to understand him? I've bought Philosophy of Right, and Phenomenology of the Spirit, which I tried reading 3 times and fell asleep every single one. Tried reading Kant's Crit. of Pure Reason to understand his influences, but no.
What am I actually supposed to read to make Hegel legible?

Apparently his lectures are more accessible, so start with them.
Try read different translations and commentaries, there are a few different interpretations, the traditional metaphysical view, the revised metaphysical view (Beiser, Holgate, Stern) and the anti-metaphysical view (Pinkard, Pippin) and the esoteric view (Glenn Magee, Cyril O'Reagan

The Science og Logic (1812) us the most comprehensive starting point.

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>>26212
Thank you anons. Wasn't aware there were so many different ways to view Hegel (though I shouldn't be surprised really). I'll report on my findings in… maybe a month. Or more.

I tried to read Hegel once, but I'm to low I.Q to fully get.


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Should I drop aspirations of being a conservationist? I find myself lucky enough to be able to go back for a second degree and have wanted to get a degree in biology since before I finished my first, entirely unrelated to that field (though much more marketable), degree. Everyone seems to be in love with environmental rape and collapse now and I can't muster much hope in regards to the importance of futilely trying to keep the various floundering ecologies of the world afloat anymore.

I'd resigned myself to the truth of environmental collapse but reading daily about how America has decided to kill another endangered species, actively, entirely without any remorse, has become more than I can handle.

I don't want to be doing shit in an office 'till I die, but I don't know if going back to follow what I'm actually interested and passionate about will yield much fruit, if any at all.
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>>26061
Growing up I would see villains in fiction whose ideologies are so retarded that it de-immersed me from what I was reading, but as an adult I've come to realize that reactionaries are simply like that and have podcasts and substacks where they say so plainly.

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>>26172
I used to hate how cartoonishly evil villains were in some work of fiction, and thought moral ambiguity and all sides doing bad things was closer to the truth. Now I am an adult ruled and I realized real life is full of cartoonishly evil villains.

>>26061
Why did he not use horrors per square meter? It is a much more common measurement.

>>26063
Utilitarianism would be conservationism funnily enough

We need 100 Kaczynskis in every Chinese fast fashion factory


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Any leftist critique of the racialist religion of Judaism? Apart from Israel Shahak who was an anti-apartheid left-liberal activist that also campaigned against colonialism, I can’t think of any other polemicist that criticised Judaism, as the rest are either secular chuds or fundamentalist theists.

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https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

>>26023
im by no means and expert on judaism or whatever so i probobly should just stay quiet on this BUUUT if i am gonna say something based on the things that i already do know it feels a bit TOO reductive to frame the entirety (not saying thats what you're doing) as a "racialist religion" but like i said im not very familiar on that stuff so i could be wrong or whatever

>>26023
the concept of a "chosen people" is reactionary
cutting baby penises is reactionary

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<In this provocative book, Benjamin Ginsberg examines the cycle of Jewish success and anti-Semitic attack throughout the history of the Diaspora, with a concentrated focus on the “special case” of America. For Ginsberg, the essential issue is not anti-Jewish feeling, but the conditions under which such sentiment is likely to be used in the political arena. The Fatal Embrace identifies the political dynamics that, historically, have set the stage for the persecution of Jews.


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Why do you justify the Russian Revolution? Didn't the Eserys win the 1928(?) election? If so, why did the Bolsheviks start the revolution anyways?

>words words words words make the body longer

>Why do you justify the […] Revolution?

iirc the handwave justification is that the SRs were split between their left and right, with the left underrepresented because of outdated candidate lists, which justified ignoring the constituent assembly. the left-SRs backed the bolsheviks in shutting down the constituent assembly. they had both the numbers and the power to pull it off in practice, even if the parliamentary arithmetic didn't work out in their favor.


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ITT post information about the history and anthropology of the New World. A lot of new anthropological work has been done in this field in recent decades that has not yet entered public consciousness.
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Basketmaker Culture and Puebloan Origins

Settlement containing a stela with Maya influences found at the site of a new housing development in Coatepec, Veracruz


New Classic Maya site with Rio Bec style temple and multiple monuments containing inscriptions found in the central Maya lowlands in Campeche. The site is notable for having no signs of looting.

Palenque: Discoveries You Haven't Seen Before
from Archaeologist Ed Barnhart (his personal youtube channel), who led the Palenque Mapping Project (1998-2000). He's an excellent communicator about Archeology and his professional focus is central and south America. This video is covering some lesser known details about the site.

>>20613
i know this is years ago but in that case, you could make a career out of that my man… ever thought of that?


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<Nearly all self-proclaimed Marxists are frauds who haven’t even read Marx, let alone understand him. They use the label Marxism, despite knowing nothing about it, as a pseudo-intellectual obfuscation for their liberal ideology.

To begin, what is Marxism?
>Marxism is not a theory of equality. It is not a diagnosis of injustice, nor is it a specific prescription of how to remedy society’s ills. Marxism is a method for acquiring knowledge about the laws governing the historical development of societies. Marxism thus regards itself as a type of science. Most people think of science as something purely descriptive.
<But the reason Marx’s contemporaries called him Prometheus is because he bequeathed a science that did not just describe reality, but participated in its development. This makes Marxism totally contrary to modern science.
>Modern science places knowledge above its object. To know, means to strip something naked to consciousness and turn it into a utility for the knowing subject. He who knows an object, can control, master, and alter an object. But the ‘object’ known by Marxism is none other than human society itself. And the paradox lies in the obvious fact that society is not just an object, but also a subject. Marxists (subjects) are themselves part of the very object they make knowable.
<To complicate matters further, Marx does not claim knowledge of society alone can transform society. Instead, he proves that society is already coming to know and transform itself materially in the form of the then growing proletarian class. Most people think Marx is ‘Promethean’ because he wanted his ideas popularized. But the REAL reason was because he had the courage of declaring the return of knowledge back to being itself, and human beings in particular. He created a science that ceased to be above its object.
>For Marx, the knowledge of historical laws arrived at by consciousness, was being reflected in history itself. Knowledge of humanity does not dominate humanity, but reveals that it was there, and part of it all along. “Communism is the riddle of history solved.”

Why the need for class consciousness?
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“Western Marxism,” yesterday and today

https://www.newintermag.com/against-losurdo/

>In recent years, the writings of the late Italian Marxist-Leninist Domenico Losurdo have exerted increasing influence over sections of the Anglophone left. So far ten of his books and more than a dozen articles he wrote have been translated into English, along with a number of interviews. During his lifetime he was praised as an “almost unbelievably well-read” historian of ideas,[1] celebrated as “one of the great contemporary authorities on Hegel.”[2] Posthumously, Losurdo was eulogized as a boundlessly erudite militant and scholar.[3] Today he is held up by the organizers of the Critical Theory Workshop and the owners of the Red Sails website as one of their leading lights. A couple of his texts have been the subject of intense controversy, however. When Stalin: History and Critique of a Black Legend first appeared in Italian in 2008, it generated a storm of outrage. Losurdo’s final written work, Western Marxism: How it was Born, How it Died, and How it can be Reborn, has similarly stirred scandal among commentators. Even before the English edition appeared in September 2024 under the auspices of Monthly Review Press, this polemic garnered a highly critical review in the pages of a major leftwing journal.[4]

>Many of Losurdo’s most outspoken promoters in the English-speaking world have suggested that there is a conspiracy to suppress the translation of his more controversial works. Whether or not this is the case is difficult to ascertain. They are right to point out, in any case, that it is mistaken to treat his books on Stalin or on Western Marxism as if they were somehow aberrant within his broader corpus. No doubt writers produce works of uneven quality; some texts will always be more worthwhile than others. But the comparative approach he adopted with respect to these topics is identical to the one he employed in his inquiries into liberalism, class struggle, nonviolence, Bonapartism contra democracy, and revisionist history, as well as his studies of philosophers like Hegel, Nietzsche, and Heidegger. Losurdo even recycled a number of arguments he made in these works for his reconsideration of Stalin and diatribe against Marxists in the West. It is therefore futile to diPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>The following essay will take Losurdo’s book on Western Marxism as its point of departure, but will refer to many of his other works along the way. For ease of readability, it will be divided into three parts. Part one will interrogate how “Western Marxism” was historically articulated, especially how it was taken up by journals influential on the New Left. It will be seen that the notion was evaluated differently depending on how these journals oriented themselves toward “actually-existing socialism,” toward the question of defeat, and toward the prospect of revolutionary politics in the present. Here the methodology utilized by Losurdo will also be examined. Next, a second part will make reference to the various Marxists he disparaged, to see whether his characterization of them withstands scrutiny. Some of his careless, and at times even unscrupulous, scholarship will be demonstrated in this section. Finally, a third part will challenge Losurdo’s antirevisionist credentials.[5] Revisionism is a topic he wrote about at length, mostly when it came to the history of war and revolution, but Losurdo himself revised the teachings of Marx, Engels, and Lenin in two major respects: first by denying the need for coordinated international proletarian revolution, and then by denying that the state would ultimately dissolve in a classless society.

No, I'm not a Marxist, I think Marxism has already run it course

>>26201
Whwt do you think has replaced it?

Bunch of irrelevant wannabe-intellectual bullshit. None of this is doing the working class any good


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