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Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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In Reuven Yaron's translation of the Akkadian "Laws of Eshnunna" (1900 BCE), we see in laws 56/57, a disparity between the compensation of a free man and a slave:
<If a dog (was) vicious and the ward (authorities) have had (it) made known to its owner, but he did not guard his dog and it bit a man and caused (him) to die — the owner of the dog 2/3 a mina silver shall weigh out. If a slave it gored and caused (him) to die, — 15 shekels of silver he shall weigh out.
The ratio of shekel to mina is 60:1, and so we can see that the difference between the men is 40:15, or around triple. We can compare this to later Anglo-Saxon law (Æthelberht's laws, 600 CE) to review class inequality:
<[Theft of] God's property and the Church's shall be compensated twelve fold; a bishop's property eleven fold; a priest's property nine fold ; a deacon's property six fold ; a clerk's property three fold. […] If a freeman robs the king, he shall pay back a nine fold amount. […] If a freeman robs a freeman, he shall pay a three fold compensation
So we see the church as the highest class, even above the king, who is equal to the priest, but below a bishop, and a freeman is equal to a cleric. We also see a formal structure of the three estates elaborated (law 26):
<If he slays a lœt of the best class, he shall pay 80 shillings. If he slays one of the second class, he shall pay 60 shillings. [For slaying one of] the third class, he shall pay 40 shillings.
So we see how class is measured according to these codes of compensation. Justice then appears as quantitative and relative.


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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>The USSR was socialist according to Marx
Okay let's look at what he said. Marx had the Paris Communes as his main inspiration of the dictatorship of the proletariat. We can see this here :
<"Of late, the social-democratic philistine has once more been filled with wholesome terror at the words: Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Well and good, gentlemen, do you want to know what this dictatorship looks like? Look at the Paris Commune. That was the Dictatorship of the Proletariat." - Engels, in the introduction of 1891 to the Civil War in France
<"It was essentially a working class government, the product of the struggle of the producing against the appropriating class, the political form at last discovered under which to work out the economical emancipation of labor." - Marx, in the same book
Now, the Commune had : representative delegates, repossession of the means of productions to give to the workers in the forms of co-ops, democractic assemblies to decide on how to govern. Again, this for Marx was meant to be an intermediate state of repossession of the political and economic power.

Now, let's look at the soviets : no representatives in the soviets, bureaucratic management by the Party of the economy, 70 years of "transition"
That's quite a lot of differences. It is true that originally, Lenin had set out to give the soviets (i.e. the local democratic councils) the political power, which would've indeed ressembled closer to the Commune. However, this did not come to be due to a plurality of factors, hence making the USSR a bureaucratic Party-State with peculiar productive relations.


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show articles about white evolution into the cutest and feminine lifeforms possible and reasons for why that is happening for examples diet pollution


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what was the name of that pre-WW2 German author that wrote how stereotypically non "aryan" germans were typically the most fanatical Nazis because they knew that they were on the fringe of being considered racially acceptable. Note how the entire high command of the nazi apparatus were a men who were mostly dark-haired, brown-eyed and somewhat short by german standards and who personally proved the lunacy of the aryan "race" as a concept by their mere existence
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>>25711
>Arthur Kronfeld
>German-Jewish psychiatrist
>Founded the The Institute for Sexual Science
>He claimed that he had scared the living daylights out of those nasty Nazis.
LOL

>>25784
Nazis were and continue to be gay and insecure

>>25848
Fascism and MLism are brothers jackass

>>25850
and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself.

>>25847
<He claimed that he had scared the living daylights out of those nasty Nazis.
Eh, no he didn't…?

Stop reading with your arse


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So, before the site went down there was a thread about serious, rigorous, economic books about socialism, and economics in general, so, not "pop economics", anyway, any good recommendation of serious economics books?
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A lolbert wrote this book on why he thinks education is bad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_Against_Education

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https://www.scribd.com/document/827376624/A-World-Without-Men-an-Analysis-of-an-All-Female-Economy-1

>>25398
>>25933
>serious economics books

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This just got out, however you need to find a free pdf either from Anna’s or zlib etc

>>25933
i hope this is a satire book, i know misandrists are fucking insane but this just genuinely retarded even for them.


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I keep seeing takes on the internet that claim Science™ is Marxist. Is this as wrong as I think it is, and if it's not, why? I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism to pin down exactly where this goes wrong, but I've taken enough philosophy of science courses to say this is diamat woowoo scientism.
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The subject and object are reversed in the formulation. If Marx accurately assesses reality, then Marxism is realistic; reality is not Marxist.

Reality is not Marxist, that's just a clever quip. The truth is Marxism strives to understand reality and has made theoretical developments with strong explanatory and predictive power. That's the real meaning of the phrase.

>>25809
>I haven't read enough of my priors on dialectical materialism
You're misusing "priors", this phrase doesn't make sense.

Teleology isn’t scientific lmao

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Marxism is just a system of analysis, a useful one, and one that holds up well to scientific scrutiny (other, more rigorous analysis) most of the time.

Meanwhile reality is simply there, not analytical itself but infinitely ripe for analysis.


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Is all radfem literature like this?

This shit is some of the most ludicrous, hyperbolic grievance mongering I have ever read. There's interesting shit floating around in here, but it is drifting in a sea of "every man is a wife-beating rapist who caused all the world's problems." Even though the book is directly comparing Zionism and feminism and seems to advocate for a lady Israel, it's mostly just couched in whining about men. Dworkin doesn't even have the fucking stones to be a strong Zionist. She's one of these wishy-washy Zionists who thinks that Zionists and Palestinians can co-exist, and maybe one day Israeli and Palestinian women can come together and unite against their REAL enemy: men! (lol) (lmao)
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>>25843
Having read some Dworkin, I don't know if she ever directly said that because it seems like she never directly says anything ever. All Dworkin does is complain about men, and all positions she is said to hold seems to be more inferred from the exact way that she is complaining about men in any given work rather than directly stated.

>>25742
>this land was promised to women 3000 years ago, we must eradicate all the men here

>>25844
Yeah I mean the other problem is that Dworkin is a coward. Dworkin's conclusions are trivial and she is afraid to state them outright.

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too much of the criticism agaisnt dworkin is just using token anti zionism and pointing out the fact that she isn't the "infallible uberwoman genius" that terminally online radfem like to potray her as and thus fully discarding ANYTHING and EVERYTHING she has EVER said (or at least the strawman version of her) and continuing to feel confident knowing that there is absolutely no need to interrogate or self introspect their deeply held views, opinions, and habits

>>25830

sophie lewis is (mostly) unnecessary and sometimes just horrid from what i know of her and her writing

>>25839

>The very term "women's liberation movement" in this time-period and in a Western context (that she is almost exclusively referring to) is so retarded as to be fucking comedic, if not for the fact that there are stupid entitled burger-women and men that actually subscribe to this ideological bullshit.

semantic bs

>Women are not a separate class, but an identity. Take off that Soviet flag, you bring shame to Marxism-Leninism.

bro dosen't know about the womb or the role of the housewife💀
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>>26028
>fully discarding ANYTHING and EVERYTHING she has EVER said
The more I read of her, the more my criticism of her actually becomes that she never actually says anything ever. She just writes books complaining about men and any positions she is said to hold come from inference about the exact way that she is complaining about men.

Which makes some of the more frustrating discourse around Dworkin more understandable. When you try to talk about some of the more radical implications that Dworkin gestures at, the Dworkinites will come out and say that she never actually said that, and they're not wrong because Dworkin never actually says anything. For instance, the only conclusion you could possibly come to when you read Dworkin write about sex and rape is that all heterosexual sex is rape, but there is absolutely no passage anywhere where she actually says that directly. She complains about men and the implication of the way in which she complains about men is that all heterosexual sex in rape, but she never outright says it.


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Any leftist critique of the racialist religion of Judaism? Apart from Israel Shahak who was an anti-apartheid left-liberal activist that also campaigned against colonialism, I can’t think of any other polemicist that criticised Judaism, as the rest are either secular chuds or fundamentalist theists.

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https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

>>26023
im by no means and expert on judaism or whatever so i probobly should just stay quiet on this BUUUT if i am gonna say something based on the things that i already do know it feels a bit TOO reductive to frame the entirety (not saying thats what you're doing) as a "racialist religion" but like i said im not very familiar on that stuff so i could be wrong or whatever

>>26023
the concept of a "chosen people" is reactionary
cutting baby penises is reactionary


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What's the leftypol take on this book? I'm not trolling - it's existence has haunted my life. I was raised catholic… Christianity has both ruined & saved my life and my opinions on it have only gotten more complex.

Some of the greatest art of all time has been religiously motivated. But the question of Christianity specifically is a big one. On one hand all manner of brown people are more sincerely christian than a lot of white people have ever been. It might be the one thing saving Africa right now!

But on the other hand The first Roman Empire & Greek empire were polytheistic & they might have achieved a civilizational peak that surpasses the situation we live in right now. Christianity is very homophobic & a huge portion of Europe/UK demographics are atheist & seem to be some of the happiest nations on earth. Christianity might even be the reason that the Roman Empire fell & is responsible for a lot of really bad imperialism & colonialism.

What am I supposed to make of it? Jesus was surely a good man, no? The word of god has saved homeless, sick, and morally corrupt. Where does the justification to do evil come from when people read this?
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>>25447
The only bible that has my imprimatur is the skeptic's annotated version. I even have a hard back copy.
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

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>>25741
I love you

God isn't real. Stop this retardation. All religions are false made up inventions, only useful to the modern world as a cautionary example of how large numbers of people can be fooled by manipulative ideas. Eventually the whole world will be atheist and this retardation won't even be studied as a historical curiosity because it's so boring.

>>25950
People will never stop believing in metaphysical bullshit
We replaced angels and demons with AI and other brain worms

But tbh I don’t think people believe in God as a literal cosmic anthropomorphic sapient but rather as a psychosomatic effect

>>25950
>Eventually the whole world will be atheist
I highly doubt it


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