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How do we combat the LaRouchites?

Recently spokespeople for the LaRouchite movement have gained notoriety in communist circles online.
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If basically everyone hates banks, (commies nazis anarchists lolberts) why doesnt everyone just team up against them?
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Bush Era (2001-2008)

What's /leftypol/'s opinion of the "Bush Era", I mean junior not senior, 2001-2008. 9/11, the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan, Nickelback, 50 Cent.

What was the left doing in this era, and what, if any lessons can be learned from it?
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2022 Olympics thread!

Thread revolves around the 2022 Olympics! What do you guys think about the Games? What do you guys think of the boycott? Would this game gross high on tickets? Would this game be a time when China flexes its new stuff to the world? Would this game invite huge protests (particularly in the Western world)? Would this game Would this game be a safe one, or would it be a super-spreader event? Would you like to buy its merch, or wouldn't you?
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Bordiga and Fascism-Democracy

Can some anon explain me what's the deal with bordiga and fascism? Why did he call Stalin an crypto-bourgeoisie while had call Hitler and Mussolini proletariat-revolutionaires?
What was his problem with democracy?
Is he the proof of horseshoe theory by going too much left to the point that siding with fascists?
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Black Hammer and Petty-Bourgeois Radicalism

Why does this sort of shit keep happening to the PSL?

First you had the Austin Red Guards, and now you have Black Hammer.

It is one thing to be a post-trotskyist movement that seems to lack organization but is still making an effort regardless and another to be unrelentingly radical to the point of suspicion. Petty bourgeois radicalism as experienced from Maoists and now Black Hammer will always provide material for right wing opportunists to portray us as petty, warmongering, and divisive.

Thoughts on this?

The video can be seen here, since the webm takes too long to upload:
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Brownshart and Lolbert Orgs

I've seen a lot of threads about various socialist organizations, but what about some analysis of "right wing" organizations? What is the state of them? Are they dying or thriving from the problems of capitalism and of the rainbow capitalist neo-liberalism culture shock? Are they even more toothless than socialist orgs, just militia LARPing and masturbation? Or have they managed to have more societal influence or impact?

This includes any "right wing" groups with offline presence (i.e. LARP, not RP), including neo-Nazi organizations like Atomwaffen and The Base not to be confused with al-Qaeda, American ultra-libertarian militias, Proud Boys-like organizations, Christian White Nationalist groups, etc.
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.

Original threads:
leftypol.org archives:
bunekrchan.xyz archives:
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New Atheism

Europeans and Asians, and even Canadians will never understand how absolutely christcucked America is EVEN TODAY. EVEN NOW, the average american, according to polls is more religious than the average IRANIAN. yes, you heard me right. The average burger is more religious than an average citizen of a theocratic republic, and the literal only thing stopping it from having been a theocracy long ago was that secularism was built right into the constitution and a bunch of civil rights/free speech litigation by atheists in the late 20th century.

Europeans see american hollywood movies and TV and new york and LA and just assume thats all of America when in reality that’s just a little bit of it. Outside the major cities, it starts getting deliverance-y. In small town, “real” America 90% of the population is dominated by conservative christian white boomers who are still living like its the early Bush era, if not even earlier like the 80s. Lil Nas X’s satan video or w/e may seem trite and noncontroversial to jaded urbanites who listened to Marilyn Manson in the 90s, but to “real” America, this shit is still controversial. These are the people who take their kids to church to be screamed at by some crazy preacher doing fox news rants about how the ‘left is demonic’ and shit.

Today, it is fashionable to shit on new atheism as just “a bunch of white guys shitting on muslims” and shilling for imperialism which granted, it did sort of become. But that doesn’t detract from the earlier positive movements. It would be as reductive to characterize new atheism as “white guys crapping on muslims” as it would be to characterize second wave feminism as “just a bunch of bored middle class white women”. Yes, there is a grain of truth to that, but its only in the hindsight of the world that created, that we can even be in a position to make that argument. Same for new atheism, its only because now we dwell in a borderline post christian America, that we can say that.

Imagine some alternative universe where “FAGGOTs” are like 80% of young male population and everyone else is apolitical except 1-2 isolated chomsky style libs that no one really pays attention to anyway. Well that actually existed and it was called the Bush era(‘01-’06/7 mainly), complete with abstinence based sex education, guys with pencil thin beards making vaguely christian doucherock, and mandatory patriotism about the troops doing imperialist invasions of Iraq.

New atheism needed to happen and I don’t give a FUCK if you say its idealist. Zoomers don’t remember the Bush era, the 2000s, esp. the early 2000s were just as overwhelmingly conservative as today is culturally liberal. If you said anything about Bush, or the wars, citizens of the ‘greatest country on earth’ would jump down your throat and call you a FAGGOT PRICK WHO HATES AMERICA AND GOD AND LOVES SADDAM. You almost had cancel culture but in the other direction which is why I can’t take rightoids seriously when they whine about cancel culture: I’ve seen what they do when they are the ones in power.

The term “new atheism” itself was originally a pejorative neologism coined to make fun of what was, in my opinion really a CIVIL RIGHTS movement for non religious people. In a context of islamic terrorism and Bush’s evangelical schizoism, it was worse than Trumpism because 75% of the country took it seriously, actual leftists were isolated and basically unknown, you had liberals literally watching fox news and unironically saying it was fair and balanced.

>George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month. Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

Yes, atheists, in certain parts of the country really were oppressed. In small towns in rural America, it was not uncommon, for atheists to be iced out of their communities, kids to be bullied, even physically assaulted at times. New atheism was a civil rights movement that was against exactly the type Christian nationalism, against Bush’s evangelical psychosis.

And who was Dawkins? Some horrible rightoid? No, while not a leftist, he was a genuine liberal and a baby boomer who’s formative political experiences in the 1960s/70s as a student at the University of California Berkeley was in the free speech and second wave feminist movements there. Dawkins based many of the tactics of second wave feminism, for example “consciousness raising”, which was itself borrowed from the idea of raising socialist consciousness within the working class:

>In the Old Left, they used to say that the workers don't know they're oppressed, so we have to raise their consciousness. One night at a meeting I said, 'Would everybody please give me an example from their own life on how they experienced oppression as a woman? I need to hear it to raise my own consciousness.' Kathie was sitting behind me and the words rang in her mind. From then on she sort of made it an institution and called it consciousness-raising.

Instead of having the increasing numbers of non religious people act as isolated in their small christian towns, they were enabled to have a group consciousness through awareness of each other, many times through the internet.

Many “intelligent” christians dunk on Dawkins for taking the bible literally and pointing out that they have a more intelligent theology. If Dawkins did this, its only because thats how 90% of Christian America interpreted it. In burgerland we have a long tradition dating to the 19th century of a militant form of anglo-protestant anti-intellectual lay-christianity, which has caused a ton of problems in this country.

Christian nationalist and qanon style nuttery is just the logical endpoint of their worldview, and the problem is unlike autistic white nationalism, Christian nationalism actually has way more of a base and crossover appeal.

In conclusion, NEW ATHEISM WAS 100% NEEDED. Younger people today (unless they live in a rural american area) have no idea of the absolute INSANITY of power that evangelicals that they had, and still kindof have but are in decline, with Trump being their last gasp of air (at least of real “political” power, they can still do other shit). This leaves the population absolutely spooked and idealist since they apprehend their problems as the result of some spiritual nonsense and is used by capitalist to trick workers. America is the most capitalist western nation and also the most christian, and that isn’t by accident, ESPECIALLY with the form of evangelical-militant schizoism we have here.
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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How Would an Anarchist Military Function?

How would an Anarchist society raise an army, supply the army, and conduct military action, without creating a State in the process? I've read some pieces on the topic, and of the answers that display a meaningful understanding of the necessities of war, they always result in describing something that is a strict, hierarchical chain of command.
What I fail to understand is how this does not constitute a coercive State entity. Could some Anarchists enlighten me on how an Anarchist society would wage war without creating a State?
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/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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Why have so many successful historical communist and socialist movements outside the first world been pro-nationalist and patriotic?
If Mao, Sankara, Castro etc were around currently, would people categorise them as NazBol for their emphasis on national liberation

>pic only semi-related
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Undervaluing of women on leftypol

From breadtube to leftypol, we concentrate way too much on "deradicalizing/converting" young edgy borderline incel or economically downwardly mobile men. Many of whom are literal teenagers who have no idea of economics because they don't support themselves yet.

Statistics have show on average women are far more left leaning than men, due to a number of different factors, but especially pronounced among YOUNG women.


Picrel is "Katherout" aka Katherine Berry, a girl youtube who vlogs about lifestyle, etc. but has lately shifted to lowkey politics. She works in tech sales and is in her mid 20s. According to her video about politics she got converted from a neoliberal girlboss into a communist. Notice her channel, there's no soviet larp iconography, she doesn't talk about politics every day, its just fashion and other normal 20-something girl shit, except she's also a communist.

This is a way more valuable person to have as a communist than some barely reformed /pol/lack who still has a bunch of quasi racist beliefs and whos main motivation to convert to the left was that he got bored of making fashwave memes and spamming the gamerwords on discord.

Instead of trying to convert seething young males with an incomprehensible sense of aggrievement towards <insert group> maybe the best thing to do is ignore them and lean in the exact opposite direction, trying to market to young women, and women of color. This isn't a radlib take its literally just recognizing that this group is WAY more receptive to communism than seething FAGGOTs.

Women like the left and "socialism" better because its perceived as more caring and compassionate (which it is).

A lot of effort is wasted, when in fact a targeted campaign to get women, esp. young women and women of color converted from liberalism to communism would actually yield 10x the results without having to deal with some seething socially maladjusted former /pol/ack who still has the same psychological issues and hangups that caused them to think being a nazi was a good idea to begin with, they probably need like 3+ years of therapy before even turning political again at all.

And the way to reach out to women isn't with adolescent posturing with edgy memes, its a totally different mode of discourse that needs to seem reasonable and compassionate. Reason and compassion is a far better basis to build a case for communism on than seething psychological hangups, entitlement, and thinly veiled pseudo-logical rationalizations aka "redpills" for inarticulable grievances towards other groups of people, and transgression for transgressions sake, since we all know where that leads.

TLDR: stop marketing communism to seething chinlets and start marketing it to young normie women and success will increase by 10x
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Apolitical retards

How do you deal with radically apolitical people? Since these people are ignorant of social/economic/political aspect of any issue, they basically boil down everything down to culture and then boil down culture to biology.
These people are the most prejudiced of all. I understand not caring about electoral politics but these radically apolitical people just don't wanna learn about anything that isn't personal self-help shit.
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I'll start, why is a centralized authority important to achieving communism and why is this seen a positive aspect.
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/fit/ general - Builtfat Edition

Ask your /fit/ related questions here.

Beginner's Health and Fitness Guide, aka "the /fit/ sticky"

<Previous Thread

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Pigs and Criminals

What do we do about the PQ (police question) and the CQ (criminal question)? What is the proper stance on policing and crime of a leftist in a capitalist society, and what would policing look like, if anything, under socialism/communism?

Would prisons be abolished? Are we in favor of "defunding the police?"
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One Piece is leftist
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I was gonna write a long pseud screed on identity, but actually, I just want to know: has anyone here ever heard of the "Platypus Affiliated Society" what do you think of it? I don't really want to explain it, because I can't, and also because I want the opinions of people that have actually engaged with it, and not a bunch of people who decided its bad because of some sectarian thing they read on Wikipedia. If you've never heard of it, please politely just ignore this.
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/mlm/ - Maoism General

While there are surely some people interested in Maoism on /leftypol/, the tendency has no noticeable presence here. From my observation Maoism has been gaining traction in socialist communities online recently. Though the ideology's influence is still relatively small, I'm optimistic that we're witnessing the earlier stages of Maoists winning leadership in the movements of the working class which will result in the reconstitution of Communist Parties guided by MLM. I started this thread to spur investigation and discussion amongst potential comrades.

Why Maoism? https://tjen-folket.no/index.php/en/2019/08/14/why-maoism-what-is-maoism/
"Maoism is developed in the first place by six great communist leaders: Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Gonzalo."
"The rightist line led China back to capitalism, and dismantled the dictatorship of the proletariat into a fascist state. (…) But the cultural revolution and Mao Zedong Thought inspired millions of people all over the world, and led to the creation of a number of new communist parties on a revolutionary basis. They started people’s wars in Peru, India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Nepal."
"Gonzalo and the PCP maintain that Mao’s mass line, the line for the protracted people’s war and the line for the cultural revolution are the foremost examples of Maoism’s universal applicability, along with Maoism’s advancement of Marxism’s philosophy and economy."
"Gonzalo Thought is Maoism applied to the concrete conditions for revolution in Peru, but it is the universal conclusions in these thoughts that apply to the rest of the world."

Maoist Resources:

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ITT Big anime tiddies

itt hueg fricken 2d oppai
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On the Leftcom Mexican

Who have we encountered several moments ago? Someone with a left communist flag just appeared in the "Macron lost control of the state", sperging out anti-vaccine theories, claiming that it's too bourgeois. Is he a /pol/ poster? Is he a visitor, Or is he a /pol/ RECRUIT seeking approval from communists so that the far-left becomes far right with leftist characteristics?

Victims pls discuss here.

Pic: There are no bigger resolutions of the leftcom flag, I'll just use one that looks similar.
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Is protonmail a honeypot?
>Trying to sign up on .onion links back to .com
>Can't sign up with vpn
>Only accepts crypto after you've signed up

There's absolutely no reason for not allowing sign-ups with vpns/TOR and activating the accounts after the payment has gone through
Do there exist any alternatives that aren't glowies?
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Hazbin Hotel

How do you feel about it (and its creator)?
also please spam Charlie pics
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How does /leftypol/ feel about 9/11 was it a ligament act of anti-imperialism or a heartless act of terror, or was it an inside job? Do third world groups have a moral imperative to avoid casualties of civilians in the imperial core.
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Dare I say... Based DSA?

The DSA is planning to adopt an official political platform document at its (online) national convention this week. I just read their draft platform / program and was very pleasantly surprised, there are some seriously radical demands in there (emphasis mine):


>The Democratic Socialists of America are fighting to win a world organized and governed by and for the vast majority, the working class. We are socialist because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships…
>In overcoming the old, barbaric order of capitalism, the working class will not only liberate itself from its own shackles, but all of humanity from the parasitic death-drive of capitalism. As capitalism’s climate crisis ravages the whole Earth, the well being of the working class is ultimately aligned with the survival of the whole planet.

<Deepening and Strengthening Democracy

>The American political system was not made to serve the working class. Undemocratic institutions like the Senate and the Electoral College combine with the force of money in politics to make it impossible for the will of the majority to be expressed…
>The nation that holds itself out as the world’s premier democracy is no democracy at all.
<Our Demands:
>* Abolish the Senate and the Electoral College
>* A new political order through a second constitutional convention to write the founding documents of a new socialist democracy

<A Powerful Labor Movement

>As socialists, we see every battle as an opportunity to cohere the class into that force: one that is capable of transforming the relationships of ownership and production,from the current system of exploitation and private accumulation, into a socialized system that serves the common good.
<Our Demands:
>* Social ownership of all major industry and infrastructure
>* Work for all who want it: full employment through a federal jobs guarantee
>* A four-day, 32-hour work week with no reduction in wages or benefits
>* End “at will” employment

<Economic Justice

<Our Demands:
>* Social ownership and democratic control of utilities and key industries including water, gas, electric, telecommunications, media…
>* Nationalize and socialize (through worker and community ownership and control) institutions of monetary policy, insurance, real estate, and finance

<International Solidarity and Immigration Justice

>DSA operates in the heart of a global capitalist empire that has wrought untold suffering on billions of people and the environment. Solidarity with comrades around the globe is essential to undo the bloody effects of endless wars, austerity,colonial exploitation, environmental destruction, stolen land, and other atrocities that make up the legacy of US actions in service of capital.
<Our Demands:
>* Dismantle the U.S. empire
>* Close all US military bases on foreign soil
>* Normalization of relations with Cuba, Iran, Venezuela,and other countries targeted for resisting US imperialism and exercising self-determination over their resources
>* Withdrawal from or full renegotiation of NAFTA and other free trade agreements that erode the ability of workers to realize the benefits of their labor
>* Abolish or withdraw from NATO, the WTO, OAS, and IMF
>* Abolish the FBI, DHS, the NSA, and the CIA and all other “security” agencies


Dare I say… Based DSA?
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Leftypol youtube channel

If someone took the initiative to create a youtube channel shamelessly advertising leftypo.org what content would you expect from that content creator? What advice would you give him/her?

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Shoplifting as revolutionary praxis

Consider: shoplifting (and reselling the stolen goods) is the purest form of praxis that material conditions in the west allow.

1) It hurts the firm's ability to turn a profit. They will be forced to attempt to clamp down. They will do this by hostile monitoring of their customers, paying their workers less, resorting to more aggressive of saving money in general.

2) Reselling the stolen goods to fellow proles is a method of surplus distribution that is free from parliamentary bullshit and fetishes. Reselling stolen goods is class consciousness realized.

3) Followed on from 2): this reselling allows you (the thief) to reproduce yourself while harming capital. The more people that do this, the more capital is hurt and the business becomes unsustainable, the contradictions grow, and…
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I find russias police force interesting

Russia is simultaneously one of the most violent and over policed countries on the planet, that sounds like an oxymoron yet when one looks into this situation it actually makes alot of sense. The thing about russia is interactions with the police dont end in arrests but often with someone getting flat out killed or severely injured, what ends up happening is actual criminals in russia arent incentivized to carry the mentality of "run from the cops" but rather "kill them" out of a legitimate need to survive, this mentality attracts some of the worst type of criminals you can think of in russia and suddenly your hearing reports of atrocities like the beslan school siege, gun shop and police station raids ending with IED explosions and molotovs everywhere, repeated mass killings in the form of mass shootings bombings and stabbings along with mexican cartel scaled criminal organizations like the illicit trade of guns and alchohals like vodka in the russian mafia. All this violence creates a situation where russias security and military budget needs to be constantly expanding to keep up with the violence and ultimately Russian police squads need to be armed with altyn helmets and tanks to perform tasks like home raids simply out of legitimate fear of getting killed by criminals being that murders against police is a prevalent problem that's been apart of russias history for decades now, especially in the 90s where it's violence was at its worst, all I can say about russias police force is it's a good platform to see what not and should be done when it comes to law enforcement and that there needs to be drastically better methods taken to reduce the violence in russia because if homicide rates increase any further that countries on the risk of mass riots that could leave thousands dead or civil war
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Is the US walking down the path that will lead to facism?

1: Powerful & Continuing nationalism ?
Yes , both major parties will happily wrap themselves in the American flag with a CGI flag fluttering in the background and a bald eagle flying overhead with the American anthem playing as part of their propaganda.

2: Disdain for human rights?
Yes, Extraordinary rendition , Targeted killings , Gitmo , and other black sites have been a thing for decades under both republican and democrat governments.

3: Identification of enemies as a unifying cause?
Yes, Both major parties are quick to point out enemies both foreign and domestic and scapegoat them as a way to unify their political bases.

4: Supremacy of the military?
Yes, The USA has military spending greater than its 6 largest rivals combined. The military and how good it is is a frequent motif of the propaganda of both parties.

5: Rampant sexism?
Yes , Just look at any paper and you will see politicians frequently making sweeping sexist statements directed at both genders. All X are Y is a frequently used template.

6: Controlled mass media?
Yes, all the major media outlets are openly aligned to one of the major partys and opposed to the other.

7: Obsession with national security?
Yes , NSA , Patriot act , CIA … the USA has more national security agencies than any other nation .

8: Religion and Government intertwined?
Yes, "One nation under God" is a thing, and presidents have a religious/spiritual advisor. God and religion are frequently used to justify policies.

9: Corporate power protected?
Yes, Corporate personhood as well as the "too big to fail" bailouts prove this point.

10: Labor power suppressed?
Yes, Trade unions were brutally put down years ago with literal massacres of striking workers.

11: Disdain for intellectuals and the arts.
Yes, anti intellectualism is well and truely entrenched with intellectuals who go off script getting canceled , intellectual freedom and academic tenure protections have been seriously eroded.

12: Obsession with crime and punishment?
Yes, See the Prison-industrial complex.

13: Rampant Cronyism and corruption?
Probable, Accusations are frequent from both parties and they offer some credible evidence to back up their claims , but it is difficult to prove without an independent investigation that can't happen when both major parties are suspect.

13: Fraudulent elections?
Probable: See the argument for point 12 for an explanation. Both sides have made accusations credible enough to start an investigation . But they can not be trusted to investigate themselves , so it will remain unproven for now.
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The police are now betraying him and siding with the proletariat in the streets

It's only a matter of time before we get another french revolution. I can't wait bros

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Gizmo the meerkat dies in tunnel collapse
During initial rounds this past Sunday morning, zookeepers were unable to find “Gizmo,” a nearly 8 year old meerkat. Sadly, after a meticulous search of the habitat, both above and below ground, his lifeless body was located in what appeared to be a collapsed tunnel. Though zoo staff is still waiting for the final results of a necropsy, it appears as if Gizmo may have been in the tunnel when it collapsed, trapping him inside.

Gizmo was born at the Brevard Zoo in October of 2013 and arrived at Zoo Miami in June of 2018. Since his arrival, he has been a favorite among staff and guests alike and his loss has been devastating, especially for his keepers.

As part of the daily routine caring for the meerkats, zookeepers are very diligent about manually collapsing all the tunnels within the habitat at the end of each day in order to prevent the tragedy that apparently struck Gizmo. Unfortunately, because the meerkats are constantly digging, another tunnel may have been quickly constructed following the keeper maintenance routine and sadly, because of the excessive rain we have experienced the last several days, it was unstable and collapsed.

Tragically, a similar incident happened in July of last year when one of the first meerkats to be born at Zoo Miami was also found trapped inside a collapsed tunnel and did not survive. The meerkat exhibit will remain closed until further notice as zoo management reevaluates the procedures in place to see what changes can be made to help ensure the prevention of a similar occurrence in the future.

The meerkats have been a fan favorite of Zoo Miami since their arrival in June of 2000. Their popularity is global thanks to the “MeerCam,” which allows anyone anywhere in the world to view the meerkats online through a webcam. Though temporarily disabled during this difficult time, the hope is to have it up and running as soon as new protocols and procedures are established and the habitat can be reopened.
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🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.

Other livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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Forgotten leftist badasses

Post the achievements of forgotten leftist badasses here. I'll start:

<Alexander Parvus (1867-1924)

>Born in the Russian Empire, already involved in illegal socialist agitation by age 16
>Forced into exile to Switzerland at age 19
>Studies the immortal science of scientific socialism under Plekhanov but rejects joining the Russian party, decides to participate in the international focal point of socialist theory and practice, the German SPD, instead
>Was THE FIRST to call out Bernstein's opportunism starting in 1895, starts to win supporters from the Russian Empire including Lenin, Trotsky, and Rosa Luxemburg
>Recognized that the proletariat had to lead the coming Russian Revolution long before Lenin or Trotsky
>Called for political Mass Strikes long before Luxemburg
>Took part in the Russian Revolution of 1905, was the "power behind the throne" while Trotsky was leader of the Petersburg Soviet
>Locked in the Peter and Paul fortress by the Tsarist state for his role in the revolution - broke out and escaped back to Germany
>Writes one of the three main book-length classical Marxist analyses of imperialism, now unfortunately untranslated and forgotten
>Moves to Turkey, immediately sought as an advisor to the Young Turks
>Follows his Party, Starts his Business: becomes a multimillionaire capitalist from insider trading to own the rablibs
>When the World War breaks out, Parvus stands with the German Empire in its noble struggle against British Imperialism, thereby creating a multipolar world ripe for revolution
>Becomes a German intelligence asset striving to foment revolution in the Russian Empire, may have been the one who convinced them to let Lenin back in on the sealed train
>His name makes Russian and Turkish conspiracy theorists seethe to this very day
>Lounged around in his mansion spending his fortune on hookers and donations to foreign revolutionary causes.
>Considered himself a revolutionary Marxist to the end of his days in 1924
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Are they run by FBI agents?

I have often heard it said that the FBI took over Communist Party USA back during the Cold War, and that the organization is now used as a honeypot to trap socialists. Is this true?
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>rejected from every university I applied to
I understand how bourgois that statement is, but honestly, I don't even give a fuck anymore.
Every since I was a little kid, this was something I was looking forward to. It was honestly my identity.
I mean, it's not too bad. It could be worse. One school offered me an alternative program (environmental sciences stuff), but its a far departure from what I had originally wanted to do, engineering (yeah I'm a STEMfag, blow me).
I guess the part that scares me most is wondering if I'll be happy with my decision to accept the alternative offer. Of course I'm going to try to get into engineering again, but I'm scared with what I'll do if I like my current program. It would be abandoning my identity that I've had for most of my life. I'm not sure if it's something I can let go of so easily. Doesn't help how my dad reminds me that I'm not in engineering every time I bring up my acceptance into the alternate program.
Part of me knows that I'll enjoy this program, I've always been interested in the environmental sciences.
Working my shit-tier wage job only makes me feel like even more shit. I dream of a utopian post-revolution world where I'm free to live as I please and do whatever piques my interest.
I think I'm just scared of making decisions.
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How would you go about fixing the Isekai (sub?)genre from its current state of mediocrity and stagnation?
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Why do communists have such cynical views on love and romance?

It seems like every communist and anarchist I know not only hates the idea of marriage and monogamy but also the concept of "love" itself. They hold that having emotional attachments to one special person to be reminiscent of private property relations.

Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Just noticed that both the old /gsg/ thread and the hoi 4 threads were full so here's a new thread.

Reposting from the Hoi 4 thread:

I found a supposed leak detailing the L-NPP paths, despite the lib bias of the devs Gus still seems pretty based. Plus it also has the 1976 and 1980 L-NPP candidates.

>At this stage, mass prosecution of the upper class will begin, now that the courts are sufficiently saturated with L-NPP appointees. Hall’s FBI director will have assembled lists and evidence on the illicit gains of the American wealthy, and, starting all at once, mass arrests will be carried out of the most unsavory individuals. This is a crisis as well, as this upheaval causes capital flight from the United States,which Hall can react to in a variety of ways - including shooting down private planes.

Yeah I'm thinking he's based

<The 1976 Election - Bill Epton/Abbie Hoffman

<Head of Government - ​Abbie Hoffman
<Foreign Minister - ​Noam Chomsky
<Economy Minister - ​Fred Hampton
<Security Minister -​ Philip Agee

Noam Chomsky and Fred Hampton being in the same cabinet is very funny to me
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/Larouche/ shitposting

It is obvious to me that the Neo Aristolean British Venitian Elites have placed their cards in the college institutions. We are dealing with PURE LOBOTOMY. YOU GOT THAT? An entire generation of babbling idiots. We must return to the policies of FDR and GET THE FASCIST BRITISH BANKERS OUT. Biden is clearly a tool of London like a modern-day Benedict Arnold. He is clinically impaired to the point where WE KNOW who is running things. It's the Trilateral Commission. Who funds them? THE ROCKEFELLERS. THE ROCKEFELLERS ARE RUN FROM LONDON! Completely British controlled. SATAN, PURE SATAN.
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On the jewish nigger question

tl;dr: Why the fuck can I say here jewish nigger but not uyghurish?

Marx begins his letter with explaining how miserable his financial situation is due the civil war
>From the enclosed scrawls you will partly see how bothered I am. So far, the landlord has allowed himself to be placated; he has yet to receive £25. The piano chap, who is being paid in instalments for the piano, should already have had £6 at the end of June, and is a most ill-mannered brute. I have rate demands in the house amounting to £6. The wretched school fees — some £10 — I have fortunately been able to pay, for I do my utmost to spare the children direct humiliation. I have paid the butcher $6 on account (the sum total of my quarterly takings from the Presse!), but I’m again being dunned by that fellow, not to mention the baker, the teagrocer, the greengrocer, and such other sons of Belial as there may be.
<Aus den einliegenden Wischen siehst Du teilweise, wie ich bin bothered. Der landlord hat sich bisher beschwichtigen lassen, hat 25 £ zu bekommen. Der Klaviermann, der Ratenzahlungen für das Klavier bekommt, sollte schon am letzten Juni 6 £ erhalten, und ist ein sehr grober Lümmel. Steuerzettel für 6 £ liegen mir im Haus. Den Schuldreck von ungefähr 10 £ habe ich glücklicherweise bezahlt, da ich alles tue, um den Kindern direkte Demütigungen zu ersparen. Dem Metzger habe ich 6 £ abgezahlt (und dies war meine Gesamteinnahme eines Vierteljahrs von der „Presse"!), aber der Kerl tritt mich wieder, nicht zu sprechen von Bäcker, teagrocer, greengrocer und wie all das Teufelszeug heißt.

then he rants about Lassalle
>The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation. The chap would sooner throw money down the drain than lend it to a ‘friend’, even though his interest and capital were guaranteed. In this he bases himself on the view that he ought to live the life of a Jewish baron, or Jew created a baron (no doubt by the countess). Just imagine! This fellow, knowing about the American affair, etc., and hence about the state of crisis I’m in, had the insolence to ask me whether I would be willing to hand over one of my daughters to la Hatzfeldt as a ‘companion’, and whether he himself should secure Gerstenberg’s (!) patronage for me! The fellow has wasted my time and, what is more, the dolt opined that, since I was not engaged upon any ‘business’ just now, but merely upon a ‘theoretical work’, I might just as well kill time with him! In order to keep up certain dehors vis-à-vis the fellow, my wife had to put in pawn everything that wasn’t actually nailed or bolted down!
<Der jüdische uyghur Lassalle, der glücklicherweise Ende dieser Woche abreist, hat glücklich wieder 5000 Taler in einer falschen Spekulation verloren. Der Kerl würde eher das Geld in den Dreck werfen, als es einem „Freunde" pumpen, selbst wenn ihm Zinsen und Kapital garantiert würden. Dabei geht er von der Ansicht aus, daß er als jüdischer Baron oder baronisierter (wahrscheinlich durch die Gräfin) Jude leben muß. Denk dir, daß der Kerl, der die Geschichte mit Amerika usw. weiß, also die Krise kennt, in der ich mich befinde, die Frechheit hatte, mich zu fragen, ob ich eine meiner Töchter als „Gesellschafterin" der Hatzfeldt übergeben wolle und ob er mir selbst die Protektion Gerstenbergs (!) verschaffen solle! Der Kerl hat mir Zeit gekostet und, meinte das Vieh, da ich ja jetzt doch „kein Geschäft" habe, sondern nur eine „theoretische Arbeit" mache, könne ich ebensogut meine Zeit mit ihm totschlagen! Um gewisse dehors dem Burschen gegenüber aufrechtzuhalten, hatte meine Frau alles nicht Niet- und Nagelfeste ins Pfandhaus zu bringen!
this should already be known so far

but then he also states
>The fellow’s importunity is also uyghur-like.
<Die Zudringlichkeit des Burschen ist auch uyghurhaft
note how uyghurhaft is one word in German a more a more accurate translation than the MECW one woud be
but i can't say uyghurish on this fucking board see >>>/b/121333

fix this shit without n!ggerish the jewish nigger meme is incomplete

MECW41 388
MEW30 257
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A critique on modern game design

Modern games are boring as shit because the player has no reason to play the game. This sounds retarded but it's true, modern games are designed with an end goal, too many games are either multiplayer minigames or open world games where the world is filled with nothing and you have no sense as to what your supposed to do in those games, what ends up happening is the player either feels as if they're aimlessly moving a character in the game accomplishing quite frankly nothing or have already finished the game like in games like Alex legends or modern warfare and thus have 0 reason to open or play the game again as it's unlikely they'll find anything new or interesting to play. This lack of a purpose is one of the reasons as to why games since the late 2000s started seeing a noticeably declining quality in actual game design despite the fact that graphical technology has improved(of course if your willing to pay thousands just to run new releases at consistent frame rates than it's an improvement) and player dissatisfaction has risen to a point where ancientfags in gaming either have given up on new releases due to fears of wasting their money on a game that's gonna be shit and bug infested day 1. I blame world of warcraft for this trend as they made the belief that you can get players consistently spending on a game without a real purpose, and with it a bunch of new MMOs hoping to copy world of warcrafts success started launching all while making mistakes the developers of WOW had already came over during the 90s and early 2000s, suddenly the open world format would become an increasing normality with franchises like far cry and soon the world of modern gaming began to decay over a reason that could be fixed pretty easily. Oh well
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Oppose Texas’ ban on ground transport for undocumented immigrants!
>Texas Republican Governor Gregg Abbott’s executive order declares that private individuals, companies and nonprofit organizations cannot transport undocumented people, and that immigrants can only travel in the custody of federal or state police.

At last, there is an answer to the question of why the German people did nothing about the Holocaust, though many were aware of it. There is, evident to all, the fascist beast in its full American splendour. We all know the inhuman condition of America's lager while Nuremberg era laws are being written. So…

That is why so much depends on the self-organization of America's working class, and even more on its becoming conscious of a not inconsiderable weapon–the General Strike. Otherwise, we are atomized, and we return to irrationality and barbarism, possibly even the end of humankind.
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Whats games are the /leftypol/ people currently in the middle of playing?
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Stuffed animals

Should all men be given mandatory stuffed animals to allow them to cope with the increasing loneliness us males feel on a regular basis due to the rise of urban expansionism?
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What do we think of her?

Is she counter-hegemonic, or part of a Bonapartist counter-gang?
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Leftypol and Patriots could merge and that's a good thing

>Biden stole the election, whether from Trump or even from Bernie
>He sided with deranged liberals who hated Trump
>Supported mandatory vaccinations while in fact the vax is just an experimental death penalty liquid
>Worked with billionaires to discredit and attack the proletariat
>Wants to show that America is back
>Why not considering a Patriots-Leftypol unity?
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Do /pol/ypcunts also spy on us while they shitpost?

What do /pol/ypcunts usually do here, apart from baiting and shitposting to smear Leftypol or attack this forum so that it would become another /pol/ zombie? Do they spy on us? Do they gather information and send it back to /pol/ so that they would encourage fellow /pol/cunts to attack this board? Or do they wait until we post personal information so that they can dox unlucky anons?

I'm just curious
I also unironically don't know the overall situation in 4chan
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The rate of profit wont affect capitalists at all

Most major corporations already have low or 0 profit margins and have been in that situation for decades, they can easily just keep taking out loans from fractional reserve banks or take your tax money directly if they see so when individuals arent paying enough for their shit products, reminder that the pandemic saw massive corporations only get even larger and the big ones just ended up producing masks and sanitational goods to be deemed essential and keep their buissnesses alive while millions of small buissnesses shut down with even more citizens unemployed. In the future cities are only going to grow along with the global urban population, class divide is going to grow further as neoliberals take more and more not just from the environment but from your wallets directly with some situations being so bad that in the modern era citizens of the global south are forced to leave their homes to be granted "developed living conditions" as their home countries are too exploited to properly industrialize and all that talk about a true socialist revolution will fade away and be forgotten as China increasingly liberalizes itself and caves further and further into an imperial state and russia imports more and more migrants and push anti nationalist movements in their media simply to keep expanding their influence
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/ccphg/ chudcel/chinlet/poljak hate general

fucking hate conseratives
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/brg/ Brasil General /brg/

Tv Senado 24h Pay-per-view edition

Last one got full

Melhor compilação dos atos circenses do executivo federal: https://medoedelirioembrasilia.wordpress.com/
Não inclui eventos nos picadeiros legislativo e executivo que não envolvem o executivo.

Narração em tempo real da CPI: https://twitter.com/camarotedacpi/
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Cyberpunk and the end of the “end of history”

Jungle Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm-9dLq6Szs

Most people on here are familiar with neoconservative intellectual Francis Fukuyama and his idea of the “End of History”. At the conclusion of the cold war Fukuyama claimed that:
>the worldwide spread of liberal democracies and free-market capitalism of the West and its lifestyle may signal the end point of humanity's sociocultural evolution and become the final form of human government.
Now he has since recanted these views as it is apparent that they were wrong. The zeitgeist of the 1980s and 1990s was a strange thing compared to today, a sort of libertarian-doomerism prevaded, with some cheerleading the coming neoliberal Era like Fukuyama, and some left-liberals fearing it. Nevertheless all sides agreed that shrinking government was the future, leading to either an Ancap dystopia or utopia, depending on which point of view. Its when you take this into account that theorists like Nick Land begin to make sense, as well as other accelerationists.

Cyberpunk author William Gibson’s 1980s and 1990s novels have also been viewed through many lenses, of techno-phobia, but there is a political reading of his work, based on who Gibson was/is: an anarchist (and later, left-liberal) baby boomer who despised Ronald Reagan and “Reaganism”, i.e. what we would today call ‘neoliberalism’. Gibson, on Reagan:

>If I were to put together a truly essential thank-you list for the people who most made it possible for me to write my first six novels, I’d certainly owe as much to Ronald Reagan as to Bill Gates or Lou Reed. Reagan’s presidency put the grit in my dystopia. His presidency was the fresh kitty litter I spread for utterly crucial traction on the icey driveway of uncharted futurity. His smile was the nightmare in my back pocket.

Cyberpunk, when you take away all the cool technology, is essentially an Anarcho-capitalist dystopia. Corporations control everything and government is non-existent. In that sense Gibson’s dystopia had more in common with ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ than anything called ‘cyberpunk’ today. But while Atwood focused on the evangelical christian aspects of Reaganism, Gibson focused on the libertarian-economic aspects and the cold warrior aspects (in Neuromancer, the war between the US and Russia happened, originally inventing the Hacker Cowboys as a military project to use against the Russians in the process).

Some say 9/11 ended this era. Others say it was the financial crisis. In the inter crisis period (roughly 2013-2020), between the recession and the pandemic, neoliberalism once again reared it’s ugly head, with neoliberals resurrecting the mythology like ‘the great moderation’, zombie Reaganism returning in the form of Trumponomics, with his tax cuts for the rich, despite his faux-populist messages. Gibson himself referred to the Trump era in a tweet as a “Jim Jones remix of the Reagan Era”, the similarities are apparent as both politicians represent an era of cultural and economic right wing backlash against the working class, both politicians were celebrities, both even used the same slogan of “Make America Great Again”.

While Gibsonian visions of cyberspace were, in my opinion, fueled more by his experiences with mind altering substances as a young man than anything resembling the actual internet, I often wonder what a young William Gibson would write today. If Gibson was born 40-50 years later as a millennial or a zoomer, what would his dystopia be? In my opinion, it would include many more traditional dystopic elements such as an expansion of State power in the form of overweening intelligence agencies. The power of corporations would remain. It would of course include Climate change.

In my opinion the dystopia of the future will not be like an ancap cyberpunk dystopia, or a 1984 form of totalitarian statism, but a bizarre hybrid of the two. It will also be tolerant, multicultural, and will perfect the dictatorship of capital by eliminating barriers to meritocracy.

Meritocracy: The ideology of the 21st century bourgeoisie.

As Marx himself said, “The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class”. Unlike previous, more aristocratic ruling classes, though, the 21st century capitalist class seeks to legitimate its rule with the concept of “meritocracy”. Even as income inequality grows more severe and the myth of social mobility grows ever less believable, the ruling elites lean even harder into the myth of ‘merit’. This has lead to the rise of “helicopter parenting”. Whilst many boomers complain about over-involved parents, the reason for this, is to make sure that children reproduce the class status of their parents, by not leaving anything to chance. If it means redrawing the educational district so that only the children of wealthy families get into a certain school, getting tutors if their child’s grades start to slip, etc. then they do it. To make sure they have the right grades, go to the right schools, so they can end up in the same social class, either upper middle or upper class, as their parents. Meritocracy serves as a validating myth “we worked hard to get where we are” that the 21st century bourgeoisie, and to a lesser extent their professsional-managerial hangers-on clings to as a justification for their wealth. This is why they also find the idea of racial and other privilege so threatening, because it undermines the basis for their self conception of deserving wealth. If the system is rigged, then it’s not meritocratic.

What people get wrong about neoliberal IDPOL is that its not done because it’s adherents believe it, but because racial/gender inequality strikes into the heart of their self serving mythology. So there are two options from there: 1- to deny it (conservatism) and say pull yourself up by your bootstraps, lazy blacks etc. This is a doomed political project IMO because it clashes with observed reality in a way that increasingly fewer people are able to deny. The second option is 2- reform capitalism to save it, not as in the 20th century, by instituting Keynesian Reforms, but by eliminating the attacks on the meritocratic-mythology by creating a more diverse, inclusive form of capitalism.

The dystopia of the future will not be dominated by the Patrick Batemans of the world, but rather, but those whose only problem with ‘American Psycho’ is that the protagonist was a white male and not a queer woman of color, in which case it would be a story of empowerment, of a woman reclaiming her sexuality and violently smashing the patriarchy by axe murdering her (probably sexist) male co-worker. Ronald Reagan in drag. The marriage of Judith Butler and Milton Friedman. A Hippie in an expensive suit – the ‘Californian Ideology’ on steroids. Left wing identity politics will be deployed, paradoxically, in support of the system, by associating populism with fascism and left wing critiques of inequality with whiteness. A sort of verbal jiu jitsu, where a left wing criticism of the system was recuperated and re-appropriated in service of defending that very system.

Most, if not all dissent will be siloed by both the ruling class and the right, into a populist/nationalist right, and a neoliberal “left”. A new libertarianism, a hyper-woke dictatorship of capital is emerging, and unlike the previous libertarianism, it will have greater moral legitimacy due to its philosophy of anti-racist meritocracy. It will call itself the left, and be culturally an heir to the new left, rather than the autistic ravings of Mises, etc. but it will, in other language, justify capitalism.
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"Tomboy" has been robbed of its meaning.

When I was a wee lad I read Katawa Shoujo and ended up really liking Emi. She hit all the right spots for me personality wise. I finished her route with the impression that she was supposed to be the token tomboy among the main girls. To my astonishment, when I went on the Katawa Shoujo forum I found out that other people did not consider her a tomboy. How? She's the athletic, bold, energetic girl who likes to play rough. Did I not just describe a tomboy? Is it because she doesn't "look" like a tomboy? Ridiculous. It was as if at some point I had been transported to bizarro world where the word tomboy had been hijacked by pathetic fetishists who now tied the word tomboy to physical appearance.

As the years went by I found myself highly attracted to 2D girls with varying types of what are culturally seen as masculine qualities. Like the aforementioned athletic, bold, energetic, likes to play rough but also aggressive, assertive, emotionally reserved, brash, vulgar, messy, short-tempered, rhetorical, analytical, philosophical, gluttonous, as lustful as a man and so on. In other words, women who behave like the worst and best of male cultural stereotypes. Do they "look" like tomboys? Some do. But even then I have nothing in common with the pathetic fetishists, the most egregious and possibly loudest of which circlejerk over 2D girls who only "look" like tomboys and otherwise do not deviate much from the assumed average girl who on top of that unironically fantasize about turning said "tomboy" into a traditional 1950s cooking, breeding and raising servant (read: wife).

Don't believe me? Give a definition for the word tomboy. Then objectively think of all the fictional girls who come to your mind that fit that definition. How many have you never thought of as tomboys?

It's not just the word tomboy that is being systematically destroyed by pathetic fetishists. The word gyaru did not simply refer to physical appearance alone, but a whole subculture. To be a gyaru it's not enough to dress the part, you also have to act the part else you're a poser right? That's how subcultures work. Gals are stereotypically vain, airheaded, trendy, extroverted, socially intelligent, gold diggers, Americaboos and so on. Today? Shy gyaru. Awkward gyaru. Recluse gyaru. Tomboy gyaru. Normal girl gyaru. Otaku gyaru. Of course a character turning out to be different from expectation is funny on the occasion, but when every gyaru is effectively a poser gyaru that's when you start getting mad. Hell, I've seen people start calling characters "gyaru" for simply having a shallow physical resemblance to gals (makeup, dark skin, blonde or pink hair, etc.) which is the very height of this fetish madness.

As the capitalist world crumbles, as escapism rapidly turns into fetishism, as words become nothing more than visual pornographic descriptors, voices like mine will remain to scream and shout at the dying light.
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What is /leftypol/'s opinion on vtubers? I think some of them are cute and funny.
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"The older you get the more conservative you become"

Yet that doesnt feel like the case as I've gotten older I've only resented capitalism more and more it's been documented that Good working conditions, Embracing rapid technological growth, Increasing population densities and the size of cities along with promoting Full employment are the biggest factors behind the rapid accumulation of material wealth for an economy, all of whom are almost never promoted in capitalist societies like the united states if profit is lost, neoliberal cities like New York city, paris, sao Paulo, tokyo, London etc feel like hell on earth due to the rampant homelessness, crime, corruption, poverty and wealth inequality that occur in those cities, problems that could easily be fixed in a month at most yet keep themselves alive because neoliberal policies keep them alive as it generates profit. Hell most of the "successful" buissnesses like amazon and apple dont even make an actual profit anymore they get their money directly off tax payer money to fulfill government interests but the tax payer is completely alienated from any of the benefits these borderline government institutions bring, this is all happening while technological innovation is actually decelerating in growth if not halting completely like what's going on in Europe while companies like Pfizer and moderna are making billions off scamming people to take a never ending barrage of nonworking vaccines. Whatever the fuck happens to the rich in the near future is anyone's guess but it's not gonna be a pretty site for them as they're causing alot of problems and at this point are viewed by me less like hardworking individuals or at the very least individuals that were smart enough to organize people into doing great things but rather as international thieves and scammers
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Offensive Language

Can y'all please stop saying the word "retard" and calling people "autistic", and "faggots"?

There shouldn't be ableist or homophobic or any hateful language in a leftist space. These words are only used by reactionaries. Mods, I'd appreciate if you do a better job of cleaning this place up.

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How powerful are US intelligence agencies?

Leftists seem to speak of these intelligence agencies as all-knowing, all-powerful entities that can squash any political movement they don't like and overthrow any government they don't like. They also allegedly control all US media outlets (except maybe Grayzone, but they may be controlled by Chinese or Russian intelligence agencies instead) and all US political organizations (including ostensibly socialist orgs like DSA and CPUSA). How much power do these agencies actually have?
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Previous thread ( >>210868 ) hit bump limit.

We scientific (STEM) socialism here.

For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon

Cockshott's youtube channel

Cockshott's Blogs

Cockshott's videos torrent archive
Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
Magnet link:
Torrent file:

This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT.

Archives of previous thread
1) https://archive.is/uNCEY
2) https://web.archive.org/web/20201218152831/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/997358.html
3) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1092975361

You can make webm related real by contacting Ck on his Facebook or YT channel.
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Let's make a thread to discuss, review and analyze tv shows. Everybody is binging something these days.
Argue about dvd commentaries, Post your thesis on King of the Hill, Reminisce about a tv show you used to watch but don't quite remember it's title. Just about anything related to shows. Post your highscore on those Ben 10 CN flash games. Anything goes.
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Since /leftypol/ is downright autistic at times I decided to make a Debunk thread where anticommunist arguments are presented with their debunks by users.
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Is it really just the same few retards who keep spamming their rightiod opinions in multiple posts to make it look like there are more of them than there actually is?
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Dindu Nuffin

ITT "villains" who did nothing wrong.
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So the entire premise of Majora's Mask is that Link lost his friend Navi and went on a journey to look for her… And never finds her in the end. Did they forget about her at some point in development? Tatl gets a nice resolution to her story, but we never hear about what happened to Navi. What a cruel way treat a character from the previous story.
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/auspol/ - Australia General II

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

Come one come all to watch this island off the coast of Asia slowly slide into a workers paradise or a live-action version of Mad Max.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/19690
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/ASG/ - Anti-Sectarianism general

There seems to have be a lot sectarianism on this board as of late. I think we should lighten things up by promoting cooperation and harmony between different leftist sects. Let's start saying good things about other sects.

(I don't belong to any specific sect by the way)
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This guy wrote an interesting article on using popular sites with javascript disabled:


His experience was that news sites/blogs tended to "mostly" work while most other sites were utterly broken.


I know many on the channers totally disable js in the browser since Stallman wrote an article against javascript many years ago, additionally many are paranoid about browser zero days used by glow in the darks. Finally a ton of people just see javascript heavy sites as being bloated and overengineered, having slow load times and discriminating against minimalism and third world users with slower internet.

With more and more sites using SPA frameworks like vue, react, and angular, and less and less apps doing server side HTML rendering, javascript-disablers are quickly becoming a tiny minority.

What do we think about js vs nojs/noscript?
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Leftist Argument copypasta general /LACG/

Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>you WON'T believe this
>but first
>actually, lemme say this
>the mainstream media is terrible
>anyway, let's read this Buzzfeed article
>check this out
>I'll tell you what, man
>the point is
>civil war
>but you know what
>I grew up on the South Side of Chicago
>I was at Occupy Wall Street
>it's complicated
>lemme lemme lemme think of it this way
>as a moderate
>orange man bad, but not that bad
>here’s the thing
>*adjusts eyeglasses*
>I kid you not
>I’m mixed-race
>I can't pronounce the name of this article's author
>let's read on
>woke outrage
>culture wars
>I'm just some dude who makes videos in the back of a van
>full stop
>I guess what I’m trying to say is this
>I predicted this
>*adjusts jacket*
>I'm a high school dropout
>I used to work for VICE
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Yep, we back at it again.Thread for n8, furries, furry related stuff, whatup.I was thinking of reading Beastars, I heard it was pretty good.
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Comics and cartoons are the industried were the contradictions of capitalism are the most noticeableYou know them I know them.
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Hayao Miyazaki

Do you have anything to say about this man?
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/leftybritpol/ Not Coming Home Edition

Well they gave it their best shot. Maybe World Cup will be the one. At least they still have cricket. Hopefully a riot breaks out right nor or something.
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Is Steven Universe liberal? I think it is because it propagates the notion that you can solve issues in society by talk no jutsu.
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/draw/ Drawing and visual art general №1

Post your drawings and studies here.

Video Tutorials:
Proko - https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Sinix - https://www.youtube.com/user/sinixdesign
Scott Robertson - https://www.youtube.com/user/scottrobertsondesign
Matt Kohr (CtrlPaint) - https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
Aaron Blaise https://www.youtube.com/user/AaronBlaiseArt

QuickPoses - https://www.quickposes.com/en
PoseSpace - https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx
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Dystopian Sci-Fimovies

What are some good dystopian sic-di movies.
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Marx and Engels’s theory of history: making sense of the race factor

>This article argues that Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels’s theory of history contained racist components. In Marx and Engels’s understanding, racial disparities emerged under the influence of shared natural and social conditions hardening into heredity and of the mixing of blood. They racialized skin-colour groups, ethnicities, nations and social classes, while endowing them with innate superior and inferior character traits. They regarded race as part of humanity’s natural conditions, upon which the production system rested. ‘Races’ endowed with superior qualities would boost economic development and productivity, while the less endowed ones would hold humanity back. Marxist race thinking reflected common Lamarckian and Romantic-Nationalist assumptions of the era

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Is Naruto liberal or is it reactionary? Its obviously not leftist because they constantly defend a feudal government.
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>Comedy Central announced on Wednesday that classic MTV animated series Beavis and Butt-Head will return with creator Mike Judge once again at the helm.

>Beavis and Butt-Head has received a two-season order at the network, which also has plans for spinoffs and specials. Judge will be writing and producing the series along with voicing the titular characters. The revival will tackle Gen Z after the original series dealt with Gen X.

>"It seemed like the time was right to get stupid again," Judge said in a statement.

>Comedy Central, which is under ViacomCBS along with MTV, recently announced a Daria spin-off series, titled Jodie, that will feature a voice-cast led by Tracee Ellis Ross.

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Wikis as Third Way Economic Model

I can’t be the only one to notice that wikipedia and open source software is a mostly effective form of non-market social production. Each contributes according to their ability and takes according to their needs. Similar lessons can be gleaned from open source software projects, in which community production is incentivized not by private profit but by the mutual value derived by generating a quality shared product. Such decentralized or loosely centralized and coordinated production has a proven track record. Notably, these digital productions seem to arise from the negligible marginal cost of creating many fungible instances of a digital product as they can be rapidly copied. It could be that such production processes serve as an alternative to both the capitalist mode and state socialist centralized planning mode, both of which assume a hierarchy of control over the process. Theoretically this mode could eliminate the need for wage labor, do away with the division of labor while socializing the means of production. Could it be that there has been a viable alternative to the capitalist mode of production right under our noses?

What is of principal interest is how such a distributed non-hierarchical mode of production could potentially challenge the capitalist mode. It is clear that if the right framework is set up, it is possible to collectively manufacture decent or even high quality products without a means of exchange or power differential between owner and worker in the relations of production. The basic relationships between worker and owner is dispensed with because all workers are owners with equal rights and privileges. Such a distributed network is a “heterarchy”, an organizational pattern in which agent is unranked and has open-ended access to all other agents and information states within the system and subject to the same regulations.

In the case of open source projects, the motive of the contributor is not profit but the value of the good itself and the mutual benefit they derive from their collectively contributed labor. The phenomenon is not unlike that of a colony of ants who unconsciously and collectively construct elaborate structures and solve complex problems without any given individual steering the colony or capturing most of the benefits. The principle can also be observed in how nature generates biological systems and the architecture of the brain.

The hierarchical mode of production promoted both by the capitalist corporate system and state socialist central planning derives from a distinctly human conception of how valuables are manufactured. Such an approach is top-down, involving planning and preparations issuing from a single source of agency. This is not how nature organically operates. Rather than such a consciously intentional stance, it is more like a wiki-process in which. for example in the case of biological development, involves countless subsystems influencing their local environments through chemical signals which, together, in turn form a greater whole which signals to other emerging structures higher on the spatiotemporal scale. In a manner of speaking, the product manufactures itself; the state of the product as it stands at a given moment in time determines what future contributes add to it.

A cell has no central processing unit or management suite tasked with directing its behaviors. It behaves as a unified whole of interacting parts without any governing rule set imposed on it from an authority. Instead the organic system brings forward its own relations through a tuning of its micro-states to its macro-states.

Supposing that basic regulatory principles are set in place that constrain what the agents can do, filters, full transparency, error-correction mechanisms, buffers and the like, such socially produced goods are protected from sabotage and potentially fruitful. Quality is enhanced rather than damaged by a loosely coordinated approach because the probability of flaws being detected is increased while there are multiple points of failure. A centralized authority that commits one mistake in the decision process pushes that mistake to every point in the decision tree. Control of the project is delegated to many specialized groups who each naturally attract those with the appropriate skillsets and interact with the appropriate self-organized production groups with which they share dependencies.

In practice, a perfectly flat network graph is not realistic, as there will always be some “heroes of labor” whose achievements outpace others and therefore exert a disproportionate influence on decision making. But such imbalances are inherently meritocratic because the only way achieve that distinction is through merit which is directly tied to the quality of one’s contributions. What remains is that all contributors have the same privileges and tools at their disposal without pre-imposed division of labor.

While this distributed process has success stories, they seem to be confined to digital production and software development. It is a challenge to see how this translates to physical space. However there is no a priori reason to rule out its potential effectiveness. The only barrier is marginal costs and more complex material production inputs related to scarcity.

Another assumption is that this process would yield quality results. The hypothesis is that a loosely organized heterarchic labor arrangement will yield a distribution of good and bad contributions but the net gain is skewed improvement in the long term to the extent that the product under development motivates its contributors. Bad actors will be collectively policed and excluded from participation. More agents will be motivated in good faith to contribute constructively to the project than detractors to sabotage it, as the main motive for collaboration is the free and unlimited access to the desired object.

I’m not sure how you’d classify this mode of production within familiar frameworks, perhaps it is anarchs-communist economics. In any case, it may well be a viable third option. This brief sketch leaves much out but I’d like to see some solid refutations of the idea.
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Alternative chans

Post all obscure and underground imageboards in this thread, the chan must be at least half-dead so no archived chans. >inb4 'hurr durr don't put muh sekrit klub in the limelight'The population here is low as it is, there's also a large overlap between this chan and others.I'll start:Dreamch.netArisuchan.jpUboachan.netThere was this one I faintly remember and I think the theme was either dinosaurs or lizards…
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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am I going insane or am i becoming communistically based?

Since Embracing communism as a system im thinking of radically altering my neet hedonist life in favour of..something else.This is NOT a troll post or a /b/ post;its rooted in Praxis.
I want to :
>start dry fasting once a month for 3 days,and doing OMAD
>going Jain-monk vegan mode
>getting involved in high-T sports like MMA, crossfit(a good gym,not the meme injury stuff),etc
>tithing my income to communist orgs

basically i am seeing communism as a religion. in the good way. even che guevara said guerrillas must be ascetic. this is my manliness,this is my asceticism.
lets be MEN for Stalin.
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Drawing thread

Post about drawing and painting and related
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Why does the far right have more appeal?

Why is the far right so much more appealing than the far left to young men in the west despite being more vapid and substanceless?

/pol/tard crossposters, don't comment. I'm looking for a real analytic materialist answer not the 9999th iteration of "pol thinks we are radlibs and spams troon memes".
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What is the most autistic genre?
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News 8/2/21

CPI (Maoist) Squad Seize Control Of Train Station In Jamui District
The Maoists asked other railway staffers to pass on a message to their superiors about their seizure of the station. They also addressed passengers on public address system and asked them to remain seated. The seizure of the train station came on the fourth day of the annual Martyrs’ Week observed by the CPI (Maoist) in memory of their slain comrades.

Pegasus/Farm Laws: Repeated Adjournments in Rajya Sabha; Inland Vessels Bill Passed Without Debate
Rajya Sabha witnessed multiple adjournments on Monday as Opposition MPs continued their protest over the Pegasus snooping row and other matters, even as it passed the Inland Vessels Bill-2021 amid the din. Lok Sabha, too, saw Opposition protests on similar issues and passed the General Insurance Bill amid the din.

Former Colombian army chief to be charged with 104 extrajudicial executions as part of ‘false positives’ scandal
RETIRED Colombian general Mario Montoya Uribe is to be charged with responsibility for 104 extrajudicial executions as part of the “false positives” scandal, the country’s attorney general confirmed on Sunday. The accusations centre on killings that took place between November 2007 and November 2008, including the deaths of at least five children.

Mexicans Approve Trial of Former Neoliberal Presidents
In the referendum held on Sunday, Mexicans voted in favor of the judicial investigation of the actions carried out by former presidents Carlos Salinas de Gortari (1988-1994), Ernesto Zedillo (1994-2000), Vicente Fox (2000-2006), Felipe Calderon (2006-2012), and Enrique Peña Nieto (2012-2018).

UK: Rights group to challenge to Williamson's Palestine schools guidance
He called on schools to clamp down on anti-semitism and reminded headteachers of their "legal duties regarding political impartiality", urging them to present a "balanced presentation of opposing views" on Israel-Palestine. "This case will seek to establish that it is not the function of the executive to choreograph political discussions within schools in the manner of autocratic regimes," said Muhammad Rabbani, Managing Director of CAGE.

Prominent anti-vax activist Piers Corbyn takes MONOPOLY MONEY from fake vaccine investors in YouTube prank
YouTube pranksters Josh Pieters and Archie Manners recently posed as shareholders in AstraZeneca and scheduled a meeting with Corbyn at London’s trendy Sloane Square. There they feigned interest in Corbyn’s views and offered him financial support – as long as he criticized vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna instead of AstraZeneca.

Taiwan report confirms US Patriot experts present at missile tests
The United States has sent weapons experts to Taiwan in the last two years to support tests of US Patriot missiles sold to the island, according to a slip-up in an official financial report. The report released by the island’s National Audit Office said Taiwan’s air force budgeted US$14.15 million for the project to enable American experts and officials to go to Taiwan to support the air force and other agencies.

U.S. seizes Singapore-owned oil tanker in violation of N. Korea sanctions regimes
Citing court documents, the Justice Department said the tanker, M/T Courageous, had illicitly stopped transmitting information regarding its location between August and December 2019, during which satellite imagery showed it engaged in a ship-to-ship transfer of more than "US$1.5 million worth of oil" to a North Korean ship before traveling to the North Korean port of Nampo.

Zurich police remove 200 climate activists blocking banks over fossil fuel funding (VIDEOS)
On Monday morning, police were deployed to the Paradeplatz square in the Swiss financial hub of Zurich as Credit Suisse and UBS bankers found entry to their offices blocked by climate protesters. Local media suggests as many as 200 activists were involved in the demonstrations. Chanting and singing protesters were led away by police after they refused to disperse. A sizable police presence has been observed in the city center square.

Iran records highest number of daily COVID cases in pandemic
State TV said health workers registered 37,189 new COVID-19 cases since Sunday — surpassing the previous daily record of 34,951 infections reported on Tuesday. Also, there were 411 deaths, bringing the country’s total death toll in the pandemic to 91,407 — the highest in the Middle East.
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Anime is reactionary for re inforcing and capitalizing on the concept of Moe and Manime

Slice of life and the Shonen genres are guilty of this the most
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Literally why are there still tankies on this board

Your beliefs are built off empire building, a phenomenon that died right after the industrial revolution when people in the new world started realizing conquest and abusing their fellow man for material wealth was fucking backwards and tankies came in and brought all those problems back plunging the planet into a cold war with the threat of nuclear devastation, on top of that most tankies say they're socialists that want to achieve communism yet advocate for creating a class based system split between the socialist leaders and the proles indirectly creating another class of bourgeois just with a fucking marxist filter. The amount of deaths caused by direct invasions from the USSR coupled with the man made famines made by tankie leaders like stalin polpot Mao and more only help to solidify that tankies are just fascists that want to execute their ideas without being labelled exactly as horrid as they are, the chinese gdp per capita is over 10 thousand dollars in usd yet the average chinese citizen lives on less than 15 dollars a day assuming they're even getting paid at all, that's less than several african countries and is subject to a mountain of exploitative systems driven under the ccp…
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Mods should help /edu/ more. Move any thread that can be moved there. Like straight up take that shit on /edu/
It"s the only way of making it relevant.
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socialism will win !

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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Speaking To Reactionaries With Reactionary Language

So, it looks like i'm somehow banned for calling an kurdish( or maybe greek /Pol/yp) ultranationalist "goat-fucker" but why?
Why can't we attack reactionaries with their own language? Fascism is not only a first-world thing, there is a amount of fascism at third-world. We attack white/burger fascists in a fascistic way, so why can't we attack others same way?
Like if a hindutvafag comes, can't we attack hım like "streetshitter" or "show bobs and vagena" ?
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Revisionism is BASED as fuck

Can somebody explain me what the problem is with "revisionism"?
Marx couldn't figure out everything, we have to innovate Marxism, introduce new ideas and concepts from lived experiences, we can't follow dogmatic principles that restrain our range of action and then be surprised when innovative Marxist countries perform way better than the rest of the world, including us.
China is becoming richer and richer while still following core Marxist principles, the height of the economy is controlled by the State in strategic areas, and the private sector is going to become more and more integrated into the state sector, the difference between the two are blurring.

The Leftists screeching about "revisionism" are impotent, weak and pathetic. They will never build something as beautiful as modern China, they will always be focused on petty issues like the "revisionists inside the other party" or the cultural issue of the day.
There is no hope for Marxism-Leninism in the West unless we openly adopt Chinese-style revisionism and actually start to advocate for real material change. Being a Communist is about building the productive forces toward Socialism and Communism, the material relations of productions will automatically follow our level of development, which is why the CPC is advocating for Marxism more than ever, because they are close to building actual Socialism in China.

We should stop associating with anarchists and the other dregs of society, we need innovators, entrepreneurs, engineers and of course workers (but a big part of them - 60% in my home country for instance - have fallen for right-wing populism so most "leftists" hate them). For Leftism to rise again it must take on a new class character, we must embrace the fact that the middle-class is also the working class now and we must fight for their interest. This mean we need to take inspiration from the Three Represents of Jiang Zemin but of course this will trigger the "anti-revisionists" lefties despite them agreeing implicitly with the concept.

Leftism isn't idealism, we won't convert the working class back to Communism using old-school rhetoric, advocating for LGBTQ rights won't help us too since not only 60% of the working class is opposed to it, neoliberals and socdems parties have already appropriated this issue for themselves. We need a new platform, focused on building the productive forces and making everyone richer, strengthen the nation and promote the people's self-determination, socialize the strategic sectors of our economy while letting the entrepreneurs innovate in small-scale privates markets, encourage the rights of workers and protect their living standards against the irrationality of the market. Despite being common sense, these positions will bring the wrath of the dogmatic leftists on me.
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Street Activism

You see vegans do this all the time. The show something disturbing on a TV and then they talk to people that watch it. Why wouldn't this work for communists? Does anybody have experience doing this?
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Delta variant news

Everything that has happened with COVID seems really fucking suspicious. For one, news about vaccines happen weirdly enough after the 2020 Election. Now, there's news of a variant right after people get vaccinated. I hate giving conspiracy retards the benefit of the doubt because they use it as a vehicle to push Nazi shit along with it. However, there's no doubt the way it's being covered is being done so to divert the attention of the working class towards arguing about masks and vaccines, along with having lockdowns conveniently while protests were going on in Chile, Venezuela, Bolivia, Hong Kong, etc back in 2019.
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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Russian Thread

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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Evictions Crisis

Millions of evictions and foreclosures will start being processed in two days.


Landlord parasites are planning to extract every last bit they can get their hands on.


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/meg/ - Middle East General

This thread is for discussion about the Middle East

Long Live The Intifada

Israel/Palestine cytube still going?
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/leftybiz/ Leftypol Business General

ITT we discuss business strategy and help other anons escape wage slavery, build a business that subverts capitalism from within, and become ethical petty booj with a lefty perspective in mind.

This is for serious discussion only, keep focused on the topic and don't derail the thread.
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Lord of the Rings/ Tolkien’s Legendarium

Noticed a lot people talking about Tolkien’s works and philosophy. So, I created a thread specifically dedicated for that and other things related to it, like the movies and games.
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/t/ - torrents and downloads

Things to share: Movies, documentaries and mainly books.
Anything related to socialism, anarchy, communism and so on.

>Absolute beginner material




>More Marx and Engels




>Other Selected Marxists


>Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres


>Many important books can be found on libgen


>Libcom has some good books/documents


>Other links


>Various assortment of historical and biographical works.

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Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread

The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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What do you guys think about kpop?

Opinions and discussions welcome!

What do you guys think about K-Pop and its artists? It has become so hot lately. Just look at BTS and other K-pop groups like Stray Kids. As an ex-fan I honestly think their songs are great. Where do you guys position yourselves in? Do you think that their music is great? Do you think that communist music are far much better than these genres?
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Any leftist that wants to treat their enemies with civility and respect is a gigantic cuck. Friendly reminder that any crimes done by communists in history pale in scope and brutality with those of rightoids. if you believe 100s of years of undisputed rule over the world and another 2 centuries of the blackest reaction can be mended with anything but the reddest of blood then you are a spineless lib with zero self respect. I am not advocating cruelty as cruelty is reactionary however executions of an immense scale need to take place if we are to create a new world.

Prove me wrong (you actually cannot)
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It's yet another time when the /pol/yps raid again. It's always in spurts of activity too so I doubt it's native users
Where the fuck do these people come from?
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On August 13 Donald John Trump will be reinstated as the rightly elected president of the united states of America.

Mike lindell will be there to announce this to the world in a bigger event than Elvis Presley 1973 Hawaii concert
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I made an image of how you would run an authoritarian regime but if you were low on funding.
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If everyone on this board read the spook book, you'd all stop being cringy communists. Why haven't you read the Unique and Its Property yet, nerds?
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understanding the first and third world

unrealistically speaking, what exactly should a country from the third world do to be considered part of the first world?

if you are to say, be rich, the gulf countries have that and yet they are still considered part of the third world
perhaps you'd say have a European culture, but Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea are as eastern culture as you get, yet are considered first world
maybe it has to be under the influence of the US? that sends us back to the gulf countries, add brazil if you want, for both are allied with America but still considered the third world
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The beginnings of our new leftypol project

Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.


Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).


I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.

So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.

If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.

Thanks for your attention!

EDIT: I've now got admin permissions on leftypedia, so I can create pages and approve edits directly. If you want to use the site I recommend you create a user account, which I can then approve once you make a productive edit (to distinguish from spambots), then you won't have to wait for approval anymore and can create articles yourself. Or, just ask me and I can create an article for you if you're desperate to make one as your first edit. Thanks guys, I hope we can make this project cool together!

t. Caballo
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What is the real death toll of socialism?
This post is a test to reveal that /leftypol/acks are actually existing tankies, no better than /pol/ in being honest about their idealism. I hope that some of you can prove me wrong. It should go without saying, but every civilisation and ideology has resulted in atrocities and if you're incapable of admitting those of your own (without comforting stipulations like "b-but they deserved it!!1!") then you're living in a spooked fucking fantasy world.
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Sexual freedom in communism???

I'm actually apolitical and bisexual. I basically support any side on the pol spectrum that supports sexual freedom and degeneracy. From my layman observation, sexual freedom in first world countries aligns with liberal market logic = anything goes as long as consent is present. We also have cool sites and apps that help me get laid any time of the day every day. The marketplace of dating. Will sexual freedom be this way in communism too? I'm especially worried because I heard soviet russia limited sexual expression because they saw it as bourgeois degeneracy, and apparently they criminalized homosexuality, anal sex etc. Most commies I talked to were monogamous and traditional as fuck, and hated the concept of kinky sex, orgies, polycules, open relationships etc.
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Drop those PDF's or else
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The shovel

The shovel is a simple tool used to dig various substances
You can use a shovel to dig farmland, roads, tunnels, holes, mines, foundations, or digging away unwanted substances like chemical waste and mud
A shovels ability to dig however is restricted by the density of the blade, a light plastic shovel will be able to dig conserdiably less than a heavier steel shovel, remember the denser the blade the more you can dig as the mass of the force struck towards the earth when digging overcomes the mass of the ground within a designated area.
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Often when when talking about leftist fiction, it is in relation to speculative science fiction.I'd like to have a thread to discuss not only fantasy with leftist themes, but fantasy in general.So, read any good fantasy recently?
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American Civic Religion

<God bless America, land that I love. Stand beside her and guide her. Through the night with the light from above

You cannot understand the burger mentality until you understand American Civic/Civil religion, a form of religious nationalism that is parallel to Christianity and operates as a (ironically, arguably idolatrous) form of pseudo-religion or pseudo-Christianity. Rural burgers believe in American civil religion to their CORE, not the educated urbanites I mean the “real” america, the anglo rural "christian" boomers of the 90% of burgerland that isn’t major metropolitan areas, the so called “hinterland”.

>assumes the existence of a vague, generic “God” and a belief that the United States has a special god-appointed role to play by saving the world by spreading “liberty” and american style “democracy” and capitalism around the world.

>has its own values, beliefs, rituals, and holidays parallel to christian holidays
>puritans who fled from europe for religious “liberty” are like the hebrews who fled from Egypt
>America is the “new promised land”. God had lead them across the ocean and given them the land of the natives, just as God led the Hebrews through the desert and given them the land of the Canaanites.
>Manifest destiny – this is their fate that is willed by god and MANIFEST(clear and obvious)
>Puritans believed God had put them there to be a shining city on a hill, a new Jerusalem, bringing their European way of life and protestant beliefs to the native pagans.
>American revolution produced a founder, a Moses-like figure in George Washington
>Prophets – men like Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine
>Apostles – John Adams, Ben Franklin
>Martyrs – Victims of the Boston Massacre, Nathan Hale
>A “Judas” like traitor – Benedict Arnold, who defected to the British.
>Sacred places like Valley Forge
>Sacred rituals like raising the liberty “tree” (pole)
>Sacred symbols like the Liberty Bell, and the ‘Stars and Stripes’
>Sacred times, holidays like fourth of July.
>Divinely inspired holy scripture, the declaration of independence and the constitution
>National Shrines like the national archive building in Washington which preserves and displays the declaration of independence, the constitution, and the bill of rights.
>George Washington urged the Constitution be “sacredly maintained”.
>James Madison wanted citizens to “venerate” the constitution.

Abraham Lincoln was like a prophet, speaking the truth to the people in a time of crisis, calling on the nation to repent of their sins. In this case secession and slavery, and to live up to “authentic” american ideals.

Reagan was more the high priest, singing the praises of the nation and reminding everyone of the nation’s God-given mission to be a shining city on a hill for all the world to see and imitate.

As a Baptist, Bill Clinton invoked the name of God more than any of them, and like most presidents he used the language a pastor might use when preaching to his congregation. Barrack Obama did the same, invoking the name of God in every speech, consistently portraying the American nation as a people unified by a shared belief in the “American Creed” aka classical liberal ideology. Social contract, assenting to the American creed is like entering into a “covenant”.

America is God’s chosen people, at one point it was Israel and now it’s America’s responsibility to be a light to the nations. In this sense it makes perfect sense why Israel and burgerstan have such an affinity because they have extremely similar settler colonial religious mythologies.

America is an exceptional nation, America has been anointed by God to promote and protect freedom (read: Capitalism and bourgeois democracy) around the globe. This is why terrorism against America must be punished, the reason the united states not only should, but has a responsibility to be the “worlds policeman”. “Isolationism” is a sinful heresy. The president’s authority is from God. Civil authorities including the presidents rule in God’s name, and their decisions and actions should reflect that fact – they must be ‘Godly’ people. And the governed must take the god given authority of presidents seriously and owe them our loyalty and obedience. Justice cannot only be based on laws, it must also come from religion. There is a significant and close link made between America, justice, and the coming kingdom of God – perhaps America is the kingdom of God. God can be known through the experiences of the American people, just as God was once revealed and known through the history of the people of Israel, today God is being known and revealed through the history of the United States, because God’s hand is guiding the nations course, and it’s fate. Holidays like the fourth of July are religious as well as patriotic. Veterans day, thanksgiving, etc. “God bless America” - God blesses America, not England, France, Egypt, etc. because America has been singled out for special blessing. America is God’s chosen people.

Civic religion has Saints like Betsy Ross and Davey Crockett, to General Douglass MacArthur, and even Steve Jobs. The greatest saints of all are the martyrs, those who died defending/promoting “the faith” aka civic religion. From east to west the country is filled with shrines, parks, and statues of soldiers.

Civic religion has its heretics as well. Beginning with Benedict Arnold, and including all those who refuse to conform or participate, whether they be Communists, or pacifists like Dorothy Day.

Research shows college graduates and political/religious liberals tend to be less civil religious. Religions that were created in the United States like Mormons and Pentecostals, are the most civil religious. Jews, Unitarians, and agnostics/atheists are the least. But overall the vast majority of Americans of any background are “civil religious”.


So-called “Christian” nationalism isn’t really even christian, its just a roided out, souped up version of American civic religion with a pseudo-christian veneer. Idolatry isn’t just worshipping a Golden cow, its not about beliefs its about behavior, directing energy and loyalty away from God to a non God secular person or thing.

In the first book of Samuel, the Israelites demand Samuel choose and appoint a king for them. They want a king like all the other nations. In response, God equates their request for a king with serving other gods, because by demanding a human king the Israelites have rejected God from being king over them. Jesus preached the coming of the kingdom of God, exactly what the Israelites in Samuel’s day rejected.

Isaiah accused the Israelites of putting their faith in horses and chariots, in military might instead of God. Faith in military might, material goods, etc. is misplaced energy, loyalty, and trust, which is a form of idolatry. When any non god thing takes the place of God, that is idolatry, which is exactly what the legions of evangelical-schizos are doing when they are raising their hands in a worshipful way the same as they do in church, but at a Trump rally. They are making one guy, their king, and putting him in front of God, an idol. If they had half a brain to even understand their religion they would realize that Christian nationalism isn’t christian and in some sense ironically is actually anti christian.

This isn't surprising to anyone who knows the history of evangelical Protestantism which was largely founded/popularized by lay preachers, sometimes who would roll around on the ground "holy rollers" and speak in tongues, traveling religious revivalists, and in some cases literal illiterates, all of whom would invent their own homebrew version of christianity that would run roughshod over any kind of scholarship on the bible in favor of "doing their own research" and adopting extremely literal interpretations as a result. It's basically the Rastafarianism of 19th century white Americans, combining normal christianity with their own made up bullshit and vulgar uninformed readings because they didn't trust the "educated" theologians.
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To those of you that have been here since 2014

Are you still socialists. If not what made you change?
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Last threads:
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Ambient Music General

Come here to post/talk about some nice ambient tracks
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South Asia and Desi General

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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Where do you get your music? Ideally lossless.
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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Why do some say postmodernism is incompatible with marxism?

I've finally read the big ones (Deleuze, Guattari, Baudrilland, Foucault, Derrida) and I'm just not seeing it. The only argument I usually see when they bother explaining why is that these authors """reject""" class struggle.
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Base and superstructure

How does the superstructure infulence the base?
I keep hearing about Marx not being an economic determinist and how being dogmatic about this leads to vulgar marxism. Explain how is it wrong with one example.
Literally impossibile, prove me 1 case where the superstructure changed the base
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Why are most weebs right wing?

Why are nearly all weebs right wing?
Every time I encounter someone with animu girl profile pic on any non-anonymous site, there's a good 90% chance that he's gonna spout right wing talking points.
What is it about weebshit that attracts them? Or is it weebshit that turns them into rightoids?
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Legacy Computer Build

Hello tech! Recently I have been feeling a bit nostalgic as of late and I am looking to build a computer with the best specs I can put in it that will still be reasonable and run windows 98 for nostalgia and classic computer gaming purposes. The only issue I am having trouble with is where, exactly, to start. I was around during this time, but, I was not exactly very tech savvy. I am curious if anyone would have any ideas for how this build should go. What case should I use? Hard drive? Floppy drive? Etc etc.

Would enjoy to get this off the ground. I think it would be a neat project. If you have any advice let me know. Thanks, tech.
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/nordpol/ - Nordic General - Skåneutgåvan

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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/k/ - Guns in general

Just don't talk about gun control
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Secret Societies

Is is possible for a secret society to pull off a coup and implement communism that way? I'm sure there are 20th century examples of this happening in the third world.
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Etymological propaganda and its influence on the Left

Democracy: Governance by lot with citizen participation in major decision-making
"Representative democracy": an Orwellian word inversion used basically to describe the Roman oligarchic system of governance with fake appeals to populism peddled by Jefferson, Madison, and especially Andrew Jackson

Were leftists of the late 19th and early 20th century aware that this word inversion had taken place? Did any of them have an inkling that elections were a naturally oligarchic institution? I am curious about the effect this historical revision of the democratic mode of governance had on socialist strategies, tactics, and institutions. I know Marx had an education in the Greek classics, so at least he was aware… Right?
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What does /hobby/ smoke?
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News 7/31/21

Australia: 7,000 Toll transport workers threaten industrial action
Toll’s proposed EA would see all new drivers employed on part-time rates just above the award minimum—more than 10 percent below the current agreement—with reduced overtime entitlements and employer superannuation contributions of no more than 10 percent.

Britain accused of covering up 1972 killing of unarmed Protestant civilian in Belfast
BRITAIN’S armed forces have been accused of another cover-up after it emerged that soldiers shot dead a man in Belfast in 1972 whose death was then blamed on the IRA. Factory foreman Thomas Mills was killed on July 18 that year in the Ballygomartin Road area where he worked.

Hungary: Thousands of Health Care Workers Protest in Budapest for Higher Wages
The crowd, which included supporters from several of Hungary's largest trade unions, said the COVID-19 pandemic had only worsened the already precarious situation of health care workers while their demands for pay hikes and reduced working hours had gone unheeded by the government.

Thousands march across France as nationwide opposition to domestic Covid ID shows no signs of fizzling out (VIDEOS)
Starting from August 9, French citizens will need a government-issued digital health pass in order to go inside a cafe or use certain forms of public transport. Individuals will need the ID to show that they are fully vaccinated, have tested negative for Covid-19, or have recovered from the virus. The controversial legislation also makes vaccination compulsory for healthcare workers.

Turkey: Seven Kurdish family members killed in 'entirely racist' attack in Konya
Seven members of a Kurdish family were killed by armed assailants in the central Turkish city of Konya in an "entirely racist" attack, according to the family's lawyer. The Dedeoglu family had long been living in fear after threats from Turkish locals, who allegedly told them that they were Turkish nationalists who "would not let Kurds live here".

250+ Palestinians injured in clashes with Israeli forces during protest against illegal West Bank settlements (VIDEO, PHOTOS)
Some 270 Palestinians were injured in the occupied West Bank as they clashed with Israel Defense Forces troops, who fired tear gas and rubber bullets into crowds protesting Israeli settlements. Hundreds of Palestinians gathered on Friday in the town of Beit Ummar, northwest of Hebron, to mourn the death of a protester who had been killed by the military a day before.

As Incomes Fall, Russians Are Once Again Falling for Pyramid Schemes
Finiko, established in the southern city of Kazan in 2019, promised investors returns of 20-30% per month, as well as the opportunity to purchase apartments and cars at discount prifounded by four men, with Kirill Doronin, a charismatic Instagram influencer with a history of running pyramid schemes, acting as the face and spokesman of the group.

Wanted Militant Related to Jaish Founder Masood Azhar Killed in Kashmir Forest
The armed forces in Jammu and Kashmir on Saturday said that they have killed a top commander of Jaish-e-Mohammed outfit, known as Saifullah, along with an unidentified associate in an operation at Nagberan area of Dachigam forest.

Covid-19 Positive PNP Troops Deployed Against Protestors In Quezon City Was A Danger To The Public
The deployment of 51 of 82 Philippine National Police (PNP) Quezon City Police District personnel who were later discovered to be positive for Covid-19 as part of anti-riot phalanx against protesters last Monday along Commonwealth Avenue in Quezon City was a shameless act of public endangerment.

Greenland: enough ice melted on single day to cover Florida in two inches of water
The deluge of melting has reached deep into Greenland’s enormous icy interior, with data from the Danish government showing that the ice sheet lost 8.5bn tons of surface mass on Tuesday alone. A further 8.4bn tons was lost on Thursday, the Polar Portal monitoring website reported.
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Why is /leftypol/ so silent on victims of anticommunism?

My first anticommunism tread was largely unsuccessful, so I decided to make a new thread again.

I'm a victim of anticommunism, and that is because I'm born and raised in Indonesia, which is basically a strictly anti-communist state in which such ideology was enshrined into law ever since 1966 when the only communist party in Indonesia gets banned. It's even part of education (communism alongside liberalism is considered a threat here).

My question is that, why won't you guys sympathize with and help victims of anticommunism? How do you guys respond to anticommunism? When would you guys wake up to the call of their horns?
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>"Eradicate homosexuals and fascism will disappear"

What did Gorky mean by this?
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Suzanne Collins’ "Hunger Games" and the Society of the Spectacle

"The theory of spectacle is introduced by Guy Debord in his famous book The Society of Spectacle. Debord presents the society of Spectacle as a mere representation of seemingly real images which is used by the capital for its own good. Spectacle consists of images such as games, entertainments or television shows which are political tools in the hands of the Capitol to stabilize its power. In fact, by applying these images through different exciting entertainments and shows, the Capitol disperses people more and destroys their unity so that people cannot be united to rebel against the Capitol’s power. This paper tries to apply the theory of spectacle to Suzanne Collin’s Hunger Games and as the title of the novel is very telling of itself, it revolves around the annual event of Hunger Games connoting the starvation of the poor people in the twelve districts and the Capitol. The setting of this novel is Panem which is shown as a dystopia because of its misusing of the modern technologies which are much more developed than our own so that people’s mind will be entrapped within the images produced by these technologies. This research tries to prove that the city of Panem, with its governor President Snow, well represents the society of spectacle. This paper shows the influence of such a society on the poor people of these districts and the way they overcome President Snow."

did they have a point?
was the hunger games a leftist book series?
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Please bring back vaush -> Agent Kochinski wordfilter
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/eo/ Ĝenerala Esperanta Fadeno

Kie estas mia genigruloj? Ĉu iuj parolas la sennacian lingvon ĉi tie?
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Ethiopia: Tigray War

Anyone know what's going on here? Are there any /ourguys/ in there or? Who are the different sides aligned with geopolitically? Is the TPLF based or cringe? Are they Maoist?

Also what do we think of the old Soviet aligned Dergue government?
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Papua's fraudulent Act of Free Choice happened today in 1969

Suharto stole Papua from the Papuans by instigating a fraudulent referendum. Why does he do that? In order to serve American interests. Specifically Freeport. This happened back in 1969.

https://tirto.id/sejarah-pepera-1969-upaya-lancung-ri-merebut-papua-egAj (Indonesian)

How will /leftypol/ react?
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I unironically love authoritarian regimes and hated democracy

Especially communist ones. although I could also give credits to Suharto and Lee Kuan Yew I think that they have made their respective countries great. except for Hitler, fuck him Take Suharto for example. Although he is staunchly anti-communist but the fact that he has developed the Indonesian economy and state in general makes me give him credits. Not to forget Xi Jinping and Joseph Besarionis dze Jughashvili, both of which rapidly modernized their respective nations. Also notable is Lee Kuan Yew, of which even the Deng you guys always bashed learned from him. The rest, including Eastern European and African dictators (as well as some Asian ones) including Pol Pot have positioned their countries as a bastion against decadent degenerate democracy.

Democracy always sucked. Take the US for example. There are lots of intra-party fights going on ever since Trump took office, first time by the donkeys and now by the elephants. The fact that January 6 rioters stormed the Capitol and Antifa burning down houses makes me more disillusioned to democracy. Also noted that there are so many far right retards here and there, screaming conspiracy theories like QAnon and "vaxx are unsafe" as well as general misinformation. There is also immense MSM control there, so that every single news coming out of the country is nevre unbiased, yet the people aren't aware of it due to the fact that "America's a democracy, democracies never do that." Liberals are another major concern, in which they align their positions to be close to DC as possible. They always cared about muh human rights issues without realizing that their ideals themselves is actually a barrier to state development. (Take for example Palestinian liberation. Although they (and I) support Palestinian national liberation, I don't support Palestine being a bourgeois democracy (like they do).)

One of those things that I have always stressed is that they implement censorship, which is actually beneficial for national development. So that critics could just stay silent and watch as the government unveils new stuff. The fact that in a democracy there's going ot be lots of criticism makes state development impossible. Just look at US infrastructure. It's 50 years old already yet they won't update them (particularly their IT sector, they were btfo'd by Russia 3 times).

Another thing is that democracies uphold muh freezed peaches. Freezed peaches is a major flaw on nation-states with a strong economic leadership like China. With free speech, people can easily spread gorillions of disinformation while the ruling class can easily propagandize their ideals overseas. That's what happens to America. With disinformation being spread from pro-Trump social media accounts and /pol/, it culminates in the storming of the Capitol and subsequent banning of Trump. China? They'll just crack down and arrest those who spread disinformation or Western propaganda by Faux News, FAKE NEWS CNN, and MSNBFraud.

Lastly, their management of THIS pandemics
RN, while China is experiencing a new Delta wave:
the US still leads in total number of cases (35,689,184 as of 7/31/2021).
India, where the Delta variant first spotted, and one of the last bastions of Trump-style populism in the world, is number 2 in total cases and number 3 in deaths, and is the world's second-largest democracy.
(China is #107, Russia is #4, Cuba is #60)
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>he hasn't seen this japo-american masterpiece

<The Hobbit is a 1977 American animated musical television special created by Rankin/Bass, a studio known for their holiday specials, and animated by Topcraft, a precursor to Studio Ghibli.
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What are some classic cute yuri animu to watch??
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Currently listening

Post what you're currently listening to
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Philippines Army Propaganda Documentary

Notable moments include cope about revolutionary taxes driving away "investment" in extractive resources, demanding npa leadership be executed for rape, and "former npa fighters" saying you definitely won't be tortured indoctrinated or treated badly at all if you surrender because the revolution is doomed .
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Fullmetal Alchemist General

How the FUCK is it possible that there’s no general thread for quite possibly the most well-written and even leftist-oriented Shounen serial of the 2000s?

Wanted to make a general because I been tearing up listening to shit like this

Best anime soundtrack ever imo, easily tops even Jojo’s
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/grek/ Greek nhma


Antiembolio/Gonimothta/Erdogan Mpes sth Kypro/Po8en Esxes edition

parakalountai oi xrhst(ri)es na milane mono greeglish - oi ellhnikoi xarakthres 8a odhgoune se ameso ban meta apo synnenohsh me tous mods

xwris plaka poios milaei kan ellhnika pleon sto internet pera apo irrelevant boomers

Proteinomena 8emata syzhthhshs:
Kanate to bolio?
Poso misw ton mitsotaki
Poso pshnete na ginei YPOXREWTIKOS emvoliasmos se OLOUS
Po8en esxes koutsoumpa
Poso agapaw ton 8anash pafilh

English posts welcome (alla eiste terma vlakes kai akoma trwte velanidia)

official links:
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OC Thread 9.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
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I hate violence

I dont want wars, I don't want militias forming, I dont want riots or large protests of any kind, I dont want mass murderers, I dont want thugs around, I dont want serial killers, I dont want death sentences, I dont want revolutions, I dont want violence period. Its fucking gay and a drain on society worldwide and literally anyone that endorses violence is just some faggot with an adrenaline fueled power fantasy of executing their horseshit ideas in the most hyper destructive matter possible. If your a violent person or dont feel some level of shock or empathy when you observe violence your not based in the slightest your just a sociopathic freak that needs to touch grass or get a hobby that makes you worth a shit to this planet
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How did image boards become a place of conservatism and conformism honestly. It seems like every asshole on 4chan has the same generic republican/neonazi opinions and takes on vidya games and shit.
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Anybody here started to realize that a lot of these current coups, such as the ones in Belarus, Cuba, Hong Kong, and all sorts of shits exist to make sure that the US citizen still hates communism?
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Defend North Koreas bloated and ineffective military budget. Why would anyone spend 20% on obsolete toys when everything comes down to Chinas involvement anyway?
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Lispers of the world, unite!
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Books regarding Indian "socialism"

What are some books or resources to understand India before 90s economic liberalization? I always see Indians claim that socialism destroyed India and they are prospering under neoliberalism. So I want to understand what went wrong economically and politically in independent India before 90s that doesn't neglect geopolitics and global economy of the time.
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Songs Understanding General

You ever listen to some music and can read the lyrics but don't really get it is about?

This is the place to post that music and other anons will give their interpretation at it

I'll start


I head ID and I thought this song was about psychology


This sound kinda seems sus. Is it a racist song about being scared of different looking people?
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What are some songs or performances that bring you to tears?

Starting with this one.
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>tfw you realize that Trump was actually the best thing to happen to the american left in decades
>tfw the Trump presidency boosted membership of DSA, CPUSA and other leftist/communist parties
>tfw Trump was so retarded yet so reactionary that he was radicalizing succdem normies turning them into socialists
>tfw Trump's continuous talk about "The communist dems" could have actually meme'd communism into existence.

He was /ourguy/ all along.
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>Hello Left /pol/ my old friend~

>I've come to hash with you again~
Its me,
The NatSoc(1)(1)(1) poster
Recent I've been in quite a few threads here where other anons have claimed there were points in previous threads i didnt fully answer in threads i made to debate Marxism and Political Philosophy or in general in ones i commented on.
(Usually as the responses become long form and the thread died before i could fully respond)
To that end i thought i'd make a base thread to answer any unanswered points or points you feel i did post a full enough answer to
Feel free to post whatever general questions you have as well regarding the political philosophy of National Socialism
And i look forward to hearing from you bros soon.
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Console exclusivity

I am a socialist in almost every aspect in my life. I help organize, I promote worker rights, I don't ignore feminist and racial struggles. Yet when it comes to console exclusivity I transform into the complete opposite of everything I believe in. As an owner of a console, I enjoy exclusives and I hate it whenever an exclusive gets ported to PC. I know every game being on every piece of hardware especially PC is the right, moral, and "proletarian" choice, but I can't help but rage and denounce at the sight of any exclusive, even the ones from a different console, gets ported.

Maybe it's some residue PTSD from being in a tight-knit Demon's Souls community when I was younger, and seeing the community flooded by morons and petit-bougie assholes when the Souls series was ported to PC.

What do you guys think of console exclusivity?
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I made an image of shit minorities demand out of modern politics.
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Hentai Review

>we already have a Hentai thread stop replicating threads you moron
I here you but this isnt like the other thread were people just post pics/gifs
Here we Review and Discuss our favorite Hentai
Best sites to watch Hentai
New Announcements and Hentai that just dropped
I'll start by talking about Overflow
The animation has a high production value and I personally really like the art style
The story is extremely wholesome for Hentai
Which is really a breathe of fresh air between all the rape shit
Season 1 was pretty succesfull
A Season 2 was announced but now cancelled I dont know the specifics
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Fuck PKK - They are Not Communists

Stop it, even Castro hated those faggots. They always had been funded by imperial-core and there are proofs for that
I live in Turkey and those bastards did nothing for leftism at southeast; they didn't make any labor-strike, they didn't spread communism to youth, they didn't make anything for causes like secularism or feminism. What they only did was tricking* the kurdish youth (where they use them as a tool, many of them becomes regretful) and doing terrorıst attacks against civillians, mostly proletariat. They didn't make any attack against our bourgeoisie, while orgs like DHKP-C were literally kidnapping them and killing them at live*(or similar attacks).They did nothing but made racial-relations worse and created an schizoism for nationalism at there, while some of them were literal ultranationalists which called theirselves "Aryan". They made communism's optics really bad, where being anarchist/communist literally means being a (,anti-civillian) terrorıst and you need to say "i'm a communist but not support them" to the people. Those faggots are getting their money from dirty places, such as drugs/prositituon*/gunrunning/human trafficking, which damages the proletariat
Now those son of a bitches flamed 23 forests at there. I'm not saying they killed civillians, they burned the forests with the animals inside. When they were fucking pro-ecology? They literally burned up entire forests and killed a lot of animals while many of proletariat had lose their houses and jobs. HOW IS IT FUCKING RELATED TO LEFTISM, ESPECİALLY FOR ECOLOGY?!
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Welp edition
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The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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How are we supposed to cope with the fact that there is more than likely not going to be any real socialist country in the first world in our lifetime? Everything is pretty stable now compared to the 1950s/1960's or even the 1920's which were bad times politically yet the countries still survived. We don't have anything nearly as chaotic now which shows that revolutionary action isn't really likely and the democratic process isn't working. Bernie Sanders a center left lib couldn't even win the democratic primary over one of the most hated democratic candidates you can find which shows the masses in the country aren't really on our side. I don't really see anything to be optimistic about in the future. I just see neoliberalism until my death.
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Warhammer Thread

Since Star Wars got a thread why can’t this? Discuss anything you like of the universe. lore, art, diy modeling or even Marxist critique of the setting and gw parasitic relationship with it.

To start of the part 5 of Astartes fan film and the promise for more.
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Im not scared of the rich im scared for them

The covid pandemic allowed the wealthy elites to completely take over the already shrinking markets of major countries like the United states and EU members especially when lockdowns became enforced, unfortunately to their detriment these new policies also meant that all the rapid amount of wealth created somehow had to increase when profit margins at this point where obliterated due to overproduction of industrial goods within developed countries where these buissnesses and corporations dwell in. This means either these wealthy elites either have to magically keep expanding like with the recent push towards never ending doses of vaccines which produce variants like delta or these elites watch everything they created completely implode being that their wealth not only wasnt honestly earned but they're also have negative wealth do to debts they need to repay back to their investors. When you see shit like Jeff bezos and elon musk having a rush to get into space or watch billionaires buying up as much land in new zealand as they can you can tell they didnt prepare for the shitstorm coming to them. Oh well…
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I have never watched a single Anime nor read a single Manga in my entire life. Where should I start, what are the essentials? What is the "State & Revolution" of Anime and/or Manga? Don't reply EVA, I hate that little twink Shinji.
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Basic worker safety

Why is it that most industrialized/industrializing economies tend to place the safety of industrial workers to a minimum? This isnt even just a capitalist thing as it's been a prevalent problem within the ussr ccp nk and cuba along within societies like germany the united states britain and more. It's not hard to get workers to wear masks as they're coming into contact with non breathable substances regularly much less supply factories with basic emergency and safety equipment, it's actually even better that worker safety is prioritized as it reduces the risk of workers becoming unable to toil due to injury or death
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Twilight Struggle

Anyone that plays twilight struggle here?
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/edu/ checkpoint

Hello comrades. I propose a general thread in an attempt to get the /edu/ ball rolling again. Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.
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/webm/ thread

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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"The Workers"

An image beloved of both the internet right and the left. The worker. "Imagine going up to a worker", they say, "and saying what you've just said." Often they are specific: The steelworker, the tired coal miner, the teamster, etc. But one must ask: what does the worker of today look like?

This figure is everywhere, watching over us. We like this idea of the worker, he is pleasing to have around. He works a real job, a job that produces things. There is unfortunately a catch: A soldier is closer to a representation of the average western worker than he is. (Some quick numbers: US coal mines employ about 50,000 people. The US military has 480,000 soldiers.) No, if you want an image of the average worker today, you're looking at the other pictures. People with smartphones and Twitter accounts. People who'll talk your ears off about films, not good films like Blue Collar (1978), films like Black Widow (2021), which they don't even watch in photogenic cinemas - no, they watch them in bed on their laptops, or perhaps if they're still students then with a HDMI cable awkwardly slung from a precariously balanced MacBook Pro in the middle of their shared flats. They're not the people you wish were your dad, they're the people you went to school if you're not underaged. A disproportionate number of them have degrees. Or perhaps they're the old people, practically invisible to you now. The middle aged ones who sit watching daytime television. The unemployed. The people who get in your way at the supermarket, the people who sit beside you on the bus when you'd really rather be left alone listening to your spotify playlist.
They are not, by and large, "aesthetic". There is no gigantic repertoire of social realist art to look on that will make you appreciate the low paid social worker in her office tabbing through an excel sheet of case-work. No obvious visible end product from the care workers looking after forgotten retirees. Some think "after the revolution, I will be a miner", but who thinks "after the revolution, I will work in the [former] amazon warehouse."? And it is this force, this lack of a clear image in one's mind that is so pernicious. Without a clear image of the modern working class, people quickly fall back to their file photo - the working class of the days before everyone had a colour television.

So what? "Well", you think "First of all I object to your characterization, you haven't specifically highlighted…" yeah, great. That's not relevant. Here's what's relevant: If you're marketing anything from Anti-Aircraft Guns to Pepsi to Zimbabwean holidays, you've got to know your target market. Socialists rarely do. /leftypol/ in particular has a glaring vulnerability in that it's also interlinked with imageboard culture, which has its own set of norms which are often clashing and contradictory. It's not uncommon on /tech/ to see, for example: We are leftists, we love the workers, and yet we hate 'normalfa–normies!'' - bad news! You're talking about the same people! Put the "um actually" screencap away: It's the same people! Your lot just don't know how to market to them!
Even those socialists who aren't naive enough to fall into the trap of "What would THE WORKERS think of this?" often fall into it by stealth when trying to advance their cause. It is surely a fact that communist parties have devoted more time fretting about how to make REAL socialism appealing to the relatively small number of unionized railway drivers than they have to finding a way to make it appealing to the much greater number of underemployed Tumblr users. That's something that will have to be resolved as a simple matter of fact, however much you might not like many of the groups that entails rallying together: You can't say "workers of the world unite!" in one breath, and then go "except the Tumblr users, the ones with bad taste in films, the ugly ones, the university educated, the deviants, the Windows users, the call centre workers, the Polish, the ones without a "real" job, the city dwellers, the unemployed, the country dwellers…." in the next.
No, if you want to lead the working class, the first thing you're going to need to do is get clear in your mind who actually composes it. Then you're going to have to remind yourself that your job is to rally them all together based on their common class interests.
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How do we know that /leftypol/ is not a CIA honeypot? Remember that they tried to create a fake social media website for cubans to incte subversion against the revolutionary government.

Also if something "suspicious" (not necessarily illegal, just "sus" in CIA terms) happens the admin is supposed to give them the logs right? Since the servers are located in the US.

I'm not trying to bash this good website, I just want to know what others think about this.
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this site good for leftist newbies who want to learn about socialism.
This pdf explains Socialism for dummies. I found it to be very informative.
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Late to the party

What the fuck happened to this place?

I visited this board a few years ago and was totally put off by the retarded leftist talking points. All the radfem, transhumanist shit, black people worship, orange man bad, white peepo bad, etc etc just turned me off. It seemed like an ultra retarded, neo-lib echo chamber. As a result I never really checked this place out too much because my first impression with it was so bad. For whatever reason, a thread on /pol/ got me lurking here a few days ago and I was blown away by the transformation that's happened. Suddenly this place now despises all the neo-lib retardation, and is woke about idpol being used as a weapon to stop people from uniting. There's actual intelligent discussion. There's people with actual enlightened opinions on the shit going down now.

Why/how did this transformation come about? Did leftists suddenly become based? Or did old-school /pol/acks just become woke? I haven't been following any politics very much for the past few years because I was busy getting my degree. Can someone give me a qrd?
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Star Wars Thread

Sorry if repost but this a discussion of the Star Wars Franchise which started in 1977
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The Wealth of Nations

I am going to tackle An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith to advance my understanding of the classical tradition of political economy of which marxist political economy is an extension.
The german political economist and translator of the Wealth of Nations Peter Thal writes in this regard
>Smith’s work lives on in the proletarian political economics; yes only here his true scientific elements have found a lasting monument
I am currently looking for an equivalent to David Harvey's Companion to Marx's Capital which helped me a lot to better understand Marx howsoever it's important to read Harvey critically

tl;dr: ITT we share secondary literature with regard to Adam Smith and his magnum opus the Wealth of Nations.
in german or english
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leftism, self sufficency and autarky

should socialists/communists, especially those in the first the world that are effected by things like free trade and neo-liberalism support autarky for their country ?
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What if Soviet Union end up like China?

Is there any route that make it possible for Gorbachev to become a Deng from Russia?

Will there be Eurocommunism? Or Syndicalism? Market socialism? We couldn't escape from the market & have to utilize it for our cause.
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On the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan

The PDPA killed tens of thousands, pushed unpopular policies that hurt people, and the USSR waged total war killing 500k to 2m civilians. If you think Maoists and even anarchists being part of the mujahideen in the opposition of that is bad, then that's disgusting. The Mujahijdeen were freedom fighters, not terrorists. A small faction of veterans of the war broke off to oppose the mujahideen government.
U.S., China, Egypt, Pakistan, U.K., and the entire muslim world funded the mujahideen. In fact, most Mujahideen-funding came from private muslim organizations across MENA because their cause was just.
Every military-aged man was Mujahideen in the 1980s. Bin Laden and Omar literally made their own groups after the Soviets left literally to oppose the Mujahideen Islamic state government, helping aid in the fight against the PDPA and the genocidal USSR was good.
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İmperialist Socialism

So recently, i was reading about Ikki Kita and his writings and i had find his weird but genius mix of socialist-internationalism and imperialist-nationalism very interesting and seems like an good example of dialectics.
His idea is, Japan as a Nationalist-Socialist country (Strasser like) should engage in agressive-imperialism and assimilate the nations that invaded into Japanese. At the end, Japan should invade entire world and assimilate all nations, thus achieving international socialism then communism
How we can use that kind of stragegy*? Without or with the assimilation, what would you think about an expansionist foreign policy that implemented by socialist country? For example, libs are calling China imperialist-socialist, but what if China really becomes imperialist-socialist, conquer central-asia and SEA? Or if other potentially revolutionary countries becomes socialist and implements expansionism ? Like India invades Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iran and Indonesia in future?
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What was wrong with the early Bolsheviks that made them all traitors and reactionaries? How did they all turn from revolutionaries into counterrevolutionaries? Were they all rotten in 1917 too?
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This is a red-blooded Soviet mech. Say something nice about it!
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diaspora reactionarism

what is it with diasporas who live in the first world coming up as rightists? I'm serious about this question because it's i don't get the appeal, I've seen Mexicans voting against immigrants,ive seen Iranians who miss the shah, Lebanese who call Arabs in the middle east inherently low IQ. eastern Europeans who despise the USSR, believe it or not, I've seen Chinese people who praised the kuomintang.
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Treatment of Animators

Discussion of the way that Animators are treated in the Anime industry. Firstly. why are animators treated like shit? Why don't they try forming unions? You're thoughts on this whole Animator Dormitory project? How can the West (I'm assuming that most of Bunkerchan is yankees and eurofags) help?
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Decline of US empire & its immediate every day effects

>40% of PC users will use Linux
>Microsoft/iOS/Apple will be understood by the majority as an OS constructed around a literal NSA requested backdoor
>majority of international trade will be done in ¥ (Chinese Yuan) and not in $ (USD)
>the number of US military bases around the world will shrink 50%
>US military budget will be cut by 25% in a few years, then 50%, then 75%
>The US will accept its economic position as mere consumer of Chinese products
>1/20th of newly accepted Intellectual Properties (IPs) will be submitted in the US, 1/2 will be in China globally by 2040
>US's ability to brain-drain the top of the top of the intelligentsia will be severed, with that Silicon Valley will go down to position no. 10 when it comes to innovation
>US NASA funding will almost completely cease
what am I missing here?

Some would/could say I'm dreaming here? But in reality every actually existing political-economy tendency shows this to be a mere UNDERSTATEMENT of how badly the USA will be fucked in the following 10 years.
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Stepford People

I am doing a USA tour and the most striking thing is all the fakeness in people's behaviour. Fake smiles, fake kindness, fake attitude in general. Everyone looks like the women from that story Stepford wives, only itnis everybody. How is USA society still function on so many layers of pretend? Isn't almost everyone mentally ill due to all this acting all the time?
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Democratic Socialists of America convention meets to promote Democratic Party
>From August 1 to 8, 1,300 delegates of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) will meet online for the organization’s biennial convention.

DSA lecture topics:
"Using Elected Office to Build Socialism" demonstrated in two successive elections by Bernie Sanders who showed millions how to use elected office to kill socialism by handing it over to the Democrats. Success indeed!

“What Can Religious Traditions Offer the Left?" Around two millenia's worth of experience in wealth accumulation by theft, exploitation, crusades & other acts of conquest by mass violence; bigotry, sexual perversion, anti-science based on primitive beliefs, not to mention centuries of suppression of all desire for human progress held by ordinary working people. Everything the capitalists need.

As for identity politics: female CEOs, black & Hispanic cops murdering poor people, #MeToo; Obama the black President "of change" who broke every electoral promise he made and waged unceasing war while deporting millions & handing $trillions to the banks; Hilary Clinton who lies through her teeth, serves Wall Street and the Pentagon's war machine.

And how does freeing Julian Assange fit into the DSA's scheme? Or stopping Covid, fascism, global warming or World War 3?

Such progressive credentials. One could not hope for a more structured defence of the capitalist system, where "pragmatism" means 100% compliance with the latter, including praising Ramon Mercader. The missing element, i.e. rebranding the Democratic party as "socialist," is supplied by the other half of the two-party system - the fascistic Republicans.
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You are failures of an administration team
You allow the same old liberal bait and copypasta to stay up time and time again until it gets 200+ replies
You allow unfettered /pol/ argumentum ad nauseum to run rampant on your website
You do not moderate your website beyond the bare minimum of removing spam
The pic related is you
You are weak and I hate you
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Cuban Situation General /csg/

Last one got Full Continued from >>382756
Cuban Situation General: Gusano Armada Food for the Sharks Edition

Very good analysis of what happened
The protests were sponsored by the US using social media:
Thousands rally in support of cuban government:
US Efforts "To Destroy Cuba" Have Failed: President Diaz-Canel
Cuban exiles will set sail in an armada of 100 small boats from Florida on Monday July 19th:


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Next season anime watchlist

What is on your watchlist?

Definitely going to watch:
>Re zero season 2

&ltMany years have passed since humanity was driven to the brink of extinction by the sudden emergence of the unknown life forms Gadoll. Those humans that survived now dwell in a 3000m-high mobile fortress Deca-dence built to protect themselves from the Gadoll threat.
>Monster musume no oishasan
&ltIn the town of Lindworm where monsters and humans coexist, Dr. Glenn runs an exemplary medical clinic for monster girls with his lamia assistant, Sapphee. Whether receiving a marriage proposal by a centaur injured in battle, palpating the injury of a mermaid, or suturing the delicate wounds of a flesh golem, Dr. Glenn performs his job with grace and confidence. But when an unsavory character seeks to steal a harpy egg, how will the unflappable Dr. Glenn respond…?
>Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e
>After 2000 years has passed, the ruthless demon lord has just been reincarnated! But his aptitude at an academy for nurturing candidates for demon lords is, “inept”!? Having the capability to destroy humans, elementals, and gods, after a long period of countless wars and strife, Arnos the demon lord became sick and tired of all that and longed for a peaceful world, so he decided to reincarnate to the future. However, what awaited him after his reincarnation is a world too used to peace that his descendants became too weak due to a huge weakening in magical powers.
>Nihon Chinbotsu 2020
&ltShortly after the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, a major earthquake hits Japan. Amidst the chaos, siblings Ayumu and Gou of the Mutou household, begin to escape the city with their family of four. The sinking Japanese archipelagos, however, relentlessly pursue the family. Plunged into extreme conditions, life and death, and the choice of meeting and parting—in the face of dreadful reality, the Mutou siblings believe in the future and acquire the strength to survive with utmost effort.
Potentially very good, but damn japan dont jinx 2020 even further plz

Sound meme-y but might be fun:
>Peter Grill to Kenja no Jikan
&ltPeter Grill is known throughout the land as the world's strongest fighter. He has a girlfriend who he's steadily trying to get closer with. Life is good for him. Until he realizes that dozens of women, who want to bear strong children, are all vying for his seed.
>Dokyuu Hentai HxEros
&ltIn a world on the verge of a great disaster that began five years ago, heroes who, with the help of a device called HxEros, use the power of Ecchi (H) and erotic power (Ero) to save the planet from libido-devouring monsters!

What about you?
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/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
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Why are ugly bastards so popular?
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Dune discussion general.

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Is it possible for them to unify into a single country. If so how?
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Services in socialism

How would services work in a socialist economy? Dealing with renumeration is trickier here since it doesn't appear to be possible to measure social labour time for services, as opposed to goods. How do services work in current and past socialist experiments?
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Pencil man is victorious and travelling around the country while Keiko and her lawyers try any card to subvert the election.
Prev. threads:
>>>/leftypol_archive/14633 #1
>>>/leftypol_archive/15250 #2
>>>/leftypol_archive/15858 #3
>>>/leftypol_archive/16499 #4
>>>/leftypol_archive/17177 #5
>>>/leftypol_archive/17849 #6
>>305248 #7
>>307155 #8
>>310902 #9
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Why did he and Mao split? Why did Mao let him die of cancer? As somebody who is not really knowledgeable about the history of the CPC. can somebody explain this to me?
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Is libertarianism making a comeback?
I've seen a lot more pro-business worshipers who have the fag flags and shit and all the meme hubs have started to move away from trumpfaggotry back to right-libertarianism. I think it might be a psyop but I still think that the ones above can influence what is below, as I've seen that the youth have moved away from the left and more towards the bottom right square (for those of you fags who still believe in that sort of autism)
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Really makes you think

What is the materialist explanation for communist and radical revolutions almost exclusively happening in extremely conservative/reactionary societies? I mran come on 1917 Russia, the bastion of traditionalism and Christianity in Europe suddenly murders the Emperor, burns churches, legalizes abortion, abolishes torture and corporal punishment, grants women full rights and absolutely anhilliates the landowning class which was a staple of Russian society for centuries. And a majority of the population embraces it enthusiastically with very sparse and unpopular rebellions. Hell, anarchism became popular.

Then we got Spain, the home of the inquisitioin suddenly have the catholic church dismembered by angry citizens. Not to mention China, Mongolia, Cambodia and others. I know workers were suffering especially bad in these countries, but some of these people valued their traditions more than a full stomach and wouldn't the local communist leaders simply ditch the cultural part of the revolution and just embrace redistribution and collectivization under a nationalist anti imperialist banner.

Why did the countries that were seen as the most spooked so eager to embrace an ideology that promised to turn upside down everything they ever knew and create something new and radical, while the historical hotspots of enlightened intellectuals and philosophers like france,Italy and Germany never even came close to having a successful revolution and turned out to have the most disinterested and passive populace.

I just don't understand the paradox of the most radical and open minded societies (by 20th century standards) ended up being the most passive while revolution swept exclusively parts of the world that were hostile to this kind of "blasphemy".

Does living under repressive traditionalism create rebelious generations waiting for the right moment to erupt or is it more complex? I'd like to hear some opinions. Why did we have the most sucess in the most unlikely of places that even Marx wrote off as too spooked? Hell even afghanistan had a sucessful revolution and people there have a 1400s mindset.
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What do you think about Friedman video about immigration?

It's 8 minutes long pretty short.

It's not a overly interesting video or anything earth shattering but he discusses differences in approval of illegal and legal immigration and why he thinks people look at in such a way. This isn't an endorsement of him obviously but he frames the immigration argument in some ways I haven't thought about it previously and gives something to ponder.


I'd like to hear what you guys think
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Quick! Post a 9+/10 game that has some actual educational value.
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/gamedev/ - Game Development General (SHARE YOUR VIDEOGAME IDEAS ITT)

So I'm not an experienced game developer or anything, but I figured we should have a general dedicated to this sort of thing, especially since I'm interested to hear peoples' ideas on lefty-orientated videogames that would be cool for me to make.
I've been using Blender since I was 11 or 12 years old (I'm 20 now) so I'm pretty much at a level now where I can model any game asset I want. I'm also in school for Computer Engineering, and have been a hobby programmer since I was around 14 working with Python, C, and GLSL shaders, so I can script pretty much anything as well. I would say my main weaknesses when approaching a task like this are Sculpting, Spriting, and Painting, so to any drawfags/artfags with skills: I invite you to contribute on whatever projects we end up embarking on.



Blender: https://www.blender.org/
Kritas: https://krita.org/en/
>Game Development
Godot: https://godotengine.org/
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How many drugs have you used recreational/medicinally?

After listing them out, the numbers make lose all hope in society
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Writing and Fanfiction General

Thread for those who like to read and write including fanfiction. Share drafts, look for beta-readers, ask for writing advice, give recommendations and do all that other cool jazz. Just remember to not bully anyone else no matter how shit their taste might be.
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/intifada/ Palestinian Anti-Zionist Music

Thread for Palestinian music against Zionism.
Songs from other Arab regions or across the world in support of Palestinians are also fine.
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Clean up /anime/ please………….
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Soukou akki muramasa

One of the most awaited VN translation is getting released next month. How hyped up are you?
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Image Manager

I have over 100,000 photos and a lot of them are unnecessary and I want to get rid of them.

I need a windows program that can help load all the images without hanging up. Sort alike google photos but without the uploading but with the date based cataloguing
Any recommendations?
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When was it that you broke away from the group think and realized /Pol/Pot actually did nothing wrong?: the Intellectuals always fuck everything up and he knew it that
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For me, it's gyarus

Recommend me anime, manga and doujins with gyarus
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Why do leftists fight so much?

I don't understand all the hate between Anarchists, Maoists, Stalinists, Marxists, Left Libertarians etc. I've never seen such splintering and hostility between people who want nearly the same thing. The right wing is far more unified even if they have different beliefs and are just better at getting their message across to the masses. Meanwhile, on leftypol, stalinists are telling Trotsky supporter to go kill themselves.
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Democrats let US eviction moratorium expire, pushing millions of families to the brink
>The confluence of the rapid spread of the Delta variant with an eruption of evictions in the coming weeks bodes a social catastrophe.

10% of the American population thrown into destitution and onto the street in the middle of the most dangerous disease outbreak in a century and amid mass unemployment. That is the lot that capitalism reserves for workers who cannot foot the bill for outrageous housing costs, which fuel outlandish rents.

When the banks are "in need" they receive $trillions in bail outs. The poor get shown the door. But according to the DSA and Democrats, gender and race are the most important divisions in society. Yes, their hands are tied - to the levers of the capitalist system as they steam roller over 40 million working poor.
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Greatest love story ever told.
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Communist/Leftist anime

What are some good communist anime?

I liked kemono friends a lot.
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Chainsaw Man

Well comrades, what are your thoughts on the series?
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Russia Bans Isekai Anime


>Popular isekai anime KonoSuba and That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, as well as several others, have been banned on certain sites in Russia recently. The Russian court decided that the isekai (meaning "otherworld") titles "promote reincarnation beliefs" and show that "after death, there can be a more full and interesting life, free from control of one's parents."

>On Monday, the Russian district court in Saint Petersburg banned a total of five anime titles, citing the federal Russian law for the protection of children from harmful information. The list of banned series includes isekai anime KonoSuba and That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, comedy horror anime Zombie Land Saga, comedy romance Nekopara and harem anime Princess Lover!.

>"The court has ruled that, for example, KonoSuba: God's Blessing on this Wonderful World! promotes reincarnation beliefs by showing that after death there can be a more full and interesting life, free from control of one's parents. The world after death is shown to be colorful, full of adventures and offering an opportunity to lead an indulgent life full of drinking, sexual relations and unlawful activities, while the real life is shown as joyless and filled with loneliness."

Hopefully a wakeup call for leftist weebs who advocate for censorship to protect the children unironically. Has it ever occurred to you that isekai is dangerous because a child watching isekai MIGHT commit suicide to be reincarnated? No? And why is that? Maybe just maybe there is a difference between fiction that is blatant wish-fullfilment disconnected from reality and suicide cult propaganda?

This is where "all fiction is political" analysis got us. Fucking retards.
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Pearl Jam were not a very good band

They just weren’t

Andrew Patrick Wood was an American musician. He was the lead singer and lyricist for the alternative rock bands Malfunkshun and Mother Love Bone. Wood formed Malfunkshun in 1980 with his older brother Kevin Wood on guitar and Regan Hagar on drums.
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The Age of the World Picture

Essay by Heidegger.
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The "School Setting"

Why is the school setting liked so much in anime? It cannot just be that the target audience is mostly children, because there are a lot of anime of this sort oriented to older otaku also. Do anime ever make more than passing attempts at portraying so called "adulthood" as a future to be excited about?
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>“Good evening, today, our fellow athletes, our gold medals, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and devastating acts by the Russian Olympic Committee and China"
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Marx and Joint Production

How is value determined in the case of joint production?

Let's say, it takes 15 hours of labour on average to raise and slaughter a chicken for its meat. How does the value of the chicken's foot or wing compare to the value of the chicken's head or the chicken's feathers?
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This thread is to talk about things on Japanese culture, and the good and bad of it
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Oppose the right-wing campaign against vaccination!
>Under conditions of the global pandemic of a lethal virus, mass vaccination is an elementary requirement of public health and for the self-defense of the working class.

As this statement indicates, particularly in its concluding section, there are definite social and historical conditions under which the right-wing and libertarian campaign against vaccination finds an echo within layers of the working class, including its poorest sections. There is ignorance and social backwardness, there is also growing alienation, and tendency to reflexively distrust authority, to make no distinction between the government and the scientists. This feeds a general fatalism. It can only take root in the absence of any class consciousness. As the statement indicates, the struggle is not simply a medical issue. The last few paragraphs here are really crucial.
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Anarchism General 3.0 -Orsetti Edition

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>139334)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
>Anonymous, Desert

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Olympics general

Fellas, is it gay to enjoy male artistic gymnastics?
Also talk about how stupid it is that this is being held at all I guess
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Where is the rigor

Where the actual fuck is any kind of mathematical theory describing marginalist theory?

The supply/demand chart supposedly allows us to derive prices from two combining sources: the supply of a product and the demand for that product.

Let us take this notion seriously.

Supply is going to necessarily going to be in some kind of quantity of a commodity. Ounces of gold, pounds of wheat, individual toys, tools, furniture. Whatever.

Price is going to be expressed in some monetary unit. Dollars, yuan, etc. Therefore, in order to get the proper units to convert, demand must be a unit of "dollars per commodity" so that the units cancel properly.

How does one determine what the current value of the "dollars per commodity" variable is? You can not determine this from the sale price because then you are circularly defining the price from the demand and the demand from the price. What is measured to resolve this?

Since supply and demand are expressed as curves, these curves have to have their own functions. How are they derived? Since supply and demand both have curves that cross both the "quantity" axis and the "price" axis, they're both inherently reliant on the price itself in the definition of their functions.

How the actual fuck is this even supposed to work out from a unit cancellation rigor standpoint?
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what went wrong with california exactly?
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My town is being overrun

I've lived in a small town for so many years and it's being ruined, there was once only a park next to lovely dirt and grass everywhere and now theres multiple stores predominantly owned by corporations like walmart and now that neighborhood is being flooded with migrants from low income residents where I live and the community leaders are building apartments to flood this place with an unsustainable amount of people. What the fuck I just wanted to live my life away from crowded, loud, smelly, violent and expensive as fuck major cities not have those cities come to me
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colonialism and Post colonialism

Can you explain me why some "comrades" have an understanding of colonialism that has more to do with Gnosticism than Materialism?
Why colonialism has become the original sin ?
I often here even smart fellows end up in the rabbit hole with some spooky shit on "muh ancestors" "muh white people" "muh post colonial identity".
Why is colonialism worse than say slaves societies which non european countries had?
Every system (feudal, clan, slave ecc.) Has been imposed through conquering, war, competition, capitalism did the same. Colonialism is a consequence of capitalism.
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Simulating a planned economy

Any programmers here? I thought about simulating a population organizing resources for a while. Nothing serious, just doing it for fun. Anyone tried that before in their free time? Do you have any conceptual starting points? I will start:

Type: Person
Attributes: sex, age_range
That is to predict how much resources they themselves need and how much work they can produce. All based on averages.

Type: Resource
Attributes: quantity, state
Subtypes: metal, mineral, wood, food
The attribute "state" describes for example if the resource has been refined based on some procedure. The mentioned subtypes have further subtypes of course.

Type: Product
Attribute: kcal, components
Subtypes: electronics, furniture, dish
kcal is supposed to represent the average amount of work exerted with the most efficient available tools available to produce the product.
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I was listening to a lecture and they mentioned that Jung was really into contradiction and unity of opposites, but I googled it and his was critical of Hegel. Is Jung compatible with dialectics? Is he compatible with Marxism? I've always felt that his archetypes are essentializing and a misstep but I don't have a thorough understanding of it. Are Jung and Lacan compatible, any Jungians on leftypol?
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Steinbeck: Based or cringe?

>During his writing career, he authored 33 books, with one book coauthored alongside Edward Ricketts, including 16 novels, six non-fiction books, and two collections of short stories. He is widely known for the comic novels Tortilla Flat (1935) and Cannery Row (1945), the multi-generation epic East of Eden (1952), and the novellas The Red Pony (1933) and Of Mice and Men (1937). The Pulitzer Prize-winning The Grapes of Wrath (1939) is considered Steinbeck's masterpiece and part of the American literary canon. In the first 75 years after it was published, it sold 14 million copies.

Is he based or cringe? 'The Grapes of Wrath' is a powerful working class novel that was hugely influencial but towards the end of his life he ended up supporting the vietnam war for some reason.
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What did they mean by this?
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What a shit game
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The Boring Manifesto: a spiritual guide to revolutionary aesthetics

The title is clickbait, but I dare you to heed these words:

Why people are reading less and less? Why so few take on demanding hobbies, such as learning an instrument, gardening, painting or bird watching? Why people becoming so stupid, lazy and dull?
Because we've externalized the richness that used to be within us. In the neoliberal model of economics, we bound over brands, we express ourselves through products and we identify with personified corporations.
Revolution is not a possibility because the light that burned within us is out, we've becomed hollowed, less than human.
There's only one way to revive this humanity that commodities have usurped from us and become strong again: we need to reject all that is flashy, captivating, colourful, attractive, unique. We must embrace the opposite. Not what is repulsive, like the fash do, but that which is so unremarkable as to become invisible. We must embrace and learn to love the boring, the mundane, the unmarketable: the unrecuperable.
I am reminded of those dystopian movies, like 1984, where we know the future is terrible because everybody looks the same. Individuality is crushed, they say. If your individuality is something so flimsy that can be reduced to your hair cut and clothes, I say fuck your individuality, and fuck you while we're at it. We must understand that even if we all looked the exact same, had the exact same job and the exact same voice, our inner lives could still be rich if we're willing to put the work.
Willing to study, to read, to pratice, to discuss, to observe, to listen, and all the other shit we don't do because we'd rather play triple A games and watch Disney movies.
So dare to wear plain clothes, get rid of your tv, shave your beard, appreciate the local flora breaking through concrete, talk to the people on your neighborhood, read the newspaper, refuse the instant gratification and soon enough you'll discover that no algorithim can tailor the perfect living experience for you.
Art is not to be consumed, but to be made and forgotten, like sand castles. Clothes aren't supposed to be cool, they're supposed to protect you. You house doesn't need to be awesome, it needs to shelter your. Fuck podcasts, I want deep conversations with people I know. Fuck music albums, I want to play guitar and sing with my friends in a sunday afternoon.
And once we shed the illusion that consumption of any kind can bring happiness, once we embrace the boring that is a part of human life, once we take our minds back, we can take the world back.
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Anti-Maoist Hate Thread

When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?
When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?
When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?
When will they stop splintering?
When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?
When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"
When will they win a revolution?


So join in on the hate. Fuck this petty-bourgeois ideology, along with other failed movements that belong in the dustbin of history (like Trotskyism). Post your copypastas, videos, memes, articles, everything.
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Why is lib culture infesting Free Software (or rather, open source) so god damn much?

Contributor Covenant, RMS cancelling, master -> main, it just keeps on going. It seems like everywhere I talk about software that isn't here or 4cuck, 70% of people hold these retarded liberal views. Why is this and what can be done about it?
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I found a rather interesting pamphlet recently, and couldn't resist taking some pictures of it. Apologies that it's likely pretty hard to read, but you rarely come across right-wing propaganda in physical form, and I'm not a photographer by trade.

Nevertheless, I think this journey will be rather interesting.

Here's the first page. It's titled "END CCP". It has a link, and it begs you to sign a petition to end the communist party of China. On the cover is a black and white image of a solemn girl in a face mask. Behind her the wall says "May the Chinese Communist Party fall", and under that "free Hong Kong"

Real inspiring stuff.
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Why is prison labor okay under communism but not under capitalism?

I often see communists decry prison labor in capitalist countries, particularly in the United States, describing it as a form of modern slavery. However, I often see these same communists turn around and praise prison labor in communist countries, most notably the Soviet Union. Why is this case? Why can't I oppose prison labor under all economic systems?
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/ahg/ Alternate History General

The Paris Commune successfully establishes socialism in France. What now?
ITT: Post and speculate about alternate history.
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You aren't ready for this documentary

This will destroy everything you thought about growth, de-growth (Malthusianism), and the "alternative economy".

Effectively BTFOs ecologists, an-prims, third worldists, market socialists, and a bunch of other losers and goons.
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Lived in China for several years as an English Teacher

AMA, I spent a few years in China between the years 2008-2012 as an English teacher among many other jobs. i will answer any and all questions you guys may have about my time and experiences there, please don't move this thread mods.
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Books about the way in which centrally planned economy such as the USSR worked

Does anyone have some books which explains the way in which the Soviet economy worked? I am looking specifically at how prices and quantities of goods were adjusted to correspond the demands and needs of the people. Although 1929-1953 is nice, I am more interested in the post-Stalin era of 1961-1985. You can also post how plans worked for other countries such as East Germany, Poland, Yugoslavia, etc.

I am also searching for technical books which explains in detail how the planning process operates in modern China and how this process relate to the economy and private markets in general.

These books can be pro or anti Soviet style planning, although I'd obviously prefer some books which are advocating for such economic models.
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What is your justification for not owning a firearm or a weapon for self defence like a knife, spiked bat, molotov cocktail, sledgehammer etc?
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Is bodybuilding a peak example of the endavours,grit and discipline of the New Man(socialist new man),or rather a borguise pastime and meaningless show-off contest?
did the soviet union have BB contests like it did have olympic lifters?
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On progressivism

Progressivism is a threat to society, whether for leftists, or even for centrists. They blur the line between "leftism" and "neoliberalsm" by juxtaposing both under the umbrella term of "leftism". They brand everyone who disagree with them as a "Nazi" or "right-wing" or a "white supremacist", even if that person is indeed a centrist who stands by his opinions, or even a left-winger.

What do you guys think about this ideology?

Opinions, discussions welcome.
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Why the hell are birthrates on the decline fucking everywhere? Even in africa the major causation of high birthrates is low access to contraceptives and abortion and even then their birthrates are on the general decline every year… it's not even like humanity hasn't had worse periods to have kids than now but seemingly enough no ones fucking and I'm worried about becoming a single father with 1 adopted son because of this retarded shit…
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Soviet Diet

any other resources on Nutrition/Diet in the USSR to deboonk the Commie Starves meme apart from that one CIA Report? we could really use a more thorough list of sources on it.
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Animals and the Mentally Deficient

Do mentally deficient people on the level of animals produce value? Let's say you employ an absolute retard rather than a bull to pull your trolley. Why is the bull constant capital and the retard variable capital? Or do retards count as constant capital?
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>With widespread, sustained declines in fertility, the world population will likely peak in 2064 at around 9.7 billion, and then decline to about 8.8 billion by 2100 – about 2 billion lower than some previous estimates, according to a new study. Improvements in access to modern contraception and the education of girls and women are generating widespread, sustained declines in fertility

>The modelling research uses data from the Global Burden of Disease Study 2017 to project future global, regional, and national population. Using novel methods for forecasting mortality, fertility, and migration, the researchers from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington's School of Medicine estimate that by 2100, 183 of 195 countries will have total fertility rates (TFR), which represent the average number of children a woman delivers over her lifetime, below replacement level of 2.1 births per woman. This means that in these countries populations will decline unless low fertility is compensated by immigration.

How will this effect politics? Will declining population lower the overall profit rate of capitalism? Will capitalism's ability to generate ever higher profits finally crap the bed when there aren't ever larger amounts of people for porky to use as workers and
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This is a thread for discussing /leftypol/'s team in the /pol/eague.

Strawmanning Q&A
>why the fuck would we enter a 4chan event full of retards?
/leftypol/ has been a participant since /pol/eague 4, despite bunkerchan nor leftypol.org ever being involved. The team is already signed up and validated. The only difference is that /leftypol/ have now been given authority over the roster, so we might as well have some fun.
Last time /leftypol/ came 2nd, and the capability of creating salt even with a lame team is demonstrably there. Virtual divegrass is not serious business. It's an opportunity to laugh, unite and shitpost together while watching a random number generator play out.

>where is more infomation?

Cup: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//pol/eague_6
Team: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//leftypol/
Recordings: https://implying.fun/poleague5/

>when will it start?

Current consensus is after 4chan's 'World Cup' in mid-August.

>why do we have a thread already?

Here's the thing. The current team roster sucks. They even made Bernie Sanders a medal player for fuck's sake. It's time for a 2021 update.
>some new players to reflect our culture (e.g. stuff like TYBNA, Read A Fucking Book, post chin, 600 GORRILIAN, Weird Sex Web Site, Uyghur, Ice axe in Mexico, Pencil, Jewish nigger, Catgirls, Dickblastt, Hazrambe)
>new anthems, chants and goal horns (e.g. .mp3 related as anthem?, /leftypol/ choir?, Tubthumping as comeback anthem?)
>new portraits for formation menu (Young Stalin instead of old Stalin?)
>new kits? they're alright but we can do better
Other aesthetic mods are possible but may take actual effort.
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Should I buy a T-90 for the revolution?

>The T-90A was deployed to Syria in 2015 to support the Russian involvement in the Syrian Civil War.[22] In early February 2016, Syrian Army forces began using T-90As in combat.[citation needed] In late February, a video was leaked on the internet which showed a T-90 survive a direct frontal turret hit by a TOW missile in Aleppo.[23]

This motherfucker can take all the counter revolutionaries on
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Marvin Heemeyer

What's the Far-Left opinion on this dude? Was he just some insane small business owner going on a rampage. Or was he a genuinely justified little guy getting crushed by the government?
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There are actual Nazis that really love Hitler and the German aryan race and shit or they're all zoomer LARP'ers with self-esteem problems? Could they be considered a serious political movement? This whole shit looks so weird from the outside. It seems like a fucking shitshow that no one takes seriously, not even /pol/ themselves…
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Line 3 is a tar sands pipeline that’s running 1,097 miles from Edmonton in Alberta Canada all the way to Superior in Wisconsin USA. Enbridge, the company placing this pipeline, is responsible for the largest inland oil spill in history. All of their pipelines leak and their corporation is notorious for under-maintaining their lines. The line is in progress of being constructed and has already polluted hundreds of miles of wetlands, rivers, lakes, and even aquifers along its path with toxins and carcinogenic chemicals. It will affect the fresh water supply for millions of people of all kinds.

Why should you care? If the scale of pollution doesn’t move you, then I’ll have you know, the pipeline goes right across my family’s land in Mahnomen county in Minnesota. Land my family has settled and farmed for over 120 years. The pipeline is planned to go straight through me and my late grandfather’s favorite fishing lake before he was hit by a drunk driver, if that wasn’t tragic enough. My entire family lives there and they live on the well water from the ground in every single household. This is land my brother and I are expected to one day inherit and take care of.
I’m not of any indigenous descent, but I stand by their struggle to protect the land, because it’s been made very, very personal.
We all need your help. So I ask you, I beg you, sign the petition to stop line 3.
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IRL organisations

sup /leftypol/,
has anyone else here gone from reading theory online, becoming leftist politically, and tried becoming involved with IRL activist and leftist groups only to find them mainly full of massive weirdos and mentally ill people?

I want to join an actual pro-working class org full of normal working-class people, but every group I run into / look at seems to be just outcast lumpens and dilettante PMC college kids. doesn't help that half the people involved in these groups IRL seem to be gay or trans or some other weird idpol group.

Has anyone else had this experience? any recommendations?
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MBTI/Jungian psychology and /leftypol/

What's your personality type? INFP gang represent. Also daily reminder that MBTI and even Jungian cognitive functions are not a concrete analysis of how people behave, it's only a general prediction of how people behave over a period of time when faced with various situations.
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Individualism thread

Individualism is the only way to change anything. Individuals can do plenty of covert damage. Im de-programming individuals one by one into communism. The individual scale is what dictates the collective scale. That is the only real way to change anything
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What is the origin of social classes?

Socialists and communists claim to want to abolish class, but I must ask this question: how did class originate? It seems that it may have had something to do with the advent of agriculture, but I have also heard that some hunter-gather classes had distinct social classes. At any rate, knowing how social stratification arose in the first place seems important if you want to 1) figure out how or if a complex society could function without social classes and/or 2) figure out how to prevent social classes from arising again in the future.
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Socialist Realism

why did stalin ban the avant garde? Why did he have to make art conform to his shit tier taste?
Actually why the soviet union post lenin adopt that shitty socialist realism?
The USSR was one on the greatest experiments in Human History, but on this they totally shitted the bed.
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God is dead

What did Nietsche mean by this? Like…I get the historical context in which he was saying this, but what are the actual implications of this phrase. For example, I have seen some people spouting stuff like:
>It doesn't matter if god exists or not. The main point is, that he is dead
What does that mean?
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Let's stop thinking about sentience as exclusive to humans and mammals but rather as a state of self awareness found in objects that posses the following traits
>the ability to observe their surroundings
>the ability to feel and react to stimuli
>the ability to have goals and desires
1 could say let's just use a simply spherical robot for example could be considered sentient if it's main purpose was to shoot apples with bullets, if that robot had a built in camera and auditory system that allowed it to navigate its surroundings and if it was able to react to things that threatened that robots survival and ability to find and shoot apples. Its sounds simple yet sentience can extend alot deeper than something as small as and apple shooting ai, think of sentience as not just a trait but a quantifiable measurement of abstraction that allows an entity to become increasingly self aware with the more diverse reactions, observations and desires it has the more sentient or "human" it becomes and likewise entities like androids may become easier to achieve than one would think if admittedly the tech that's available is far below what a true android could utilize. Oh well just a thought
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Individualism vs. Collectivism

I wanted to respond to the post about "communism as conservatism" but the jannies deleted it. I resist!


>But in all cases, what it originally meant to be a conservative was to try to conserve the aristocratic order, and the culture it created to survive (religion, etc.). Conservatives were always opposed to democracy, favoring social stability over political/individual liberty. Conservatives were counter-revolutionaries, trying to undo democracy and liberal reform.
Well, the Soviet Union could get into some pretty avant-garde stuff in the 1920s. Look at the art and experimental theatre and films from the time. It was pretty radical. I think starting with Stalin though, things that tended to individualize people began to be discouraged, which led to a kind of conservatism (in a sense), because conservatism was no longer seen as upholding capitalism, but preserving socialism, stably as it was. I can understand this, and I like some of these values. It may have even been necessary at some level. But I think it also became fossilized in place. And it created contradictions. Because if we're supposed to conform to "socialism," and there's corruption within the party with officials taking advantage of their positions for personal reasons, then that is a big political problem. It's like individualism for them, collectivism for us. Capitalist societies don't have this problem because it's your own individual failing if you're not gaming the system to your advantage.

But I suppose it is becoming a problem because we have individualism for us, and they have collectivism for them (in a sense). The rich dress in sleek conformist turtlenecks like Steve Jobs or Elizabeth Holmes (remember her from Theranos?) and rig the system to benefit themselves as a group at the expense of everyone else.

>Maybe the anxieties in the West today stem from too much democracy and freedom, not too little. When individualistic liberty is taken to its logical end, people are left with nothing to believe in but selfishness, greed, sex, and their personal identity. […] Liberty and individual freedom lead a society to nihilism and self-destruction.

I think you're really onto something. I can only speak to the U.S., but I think that the society that produced me was really repressed for a long time. You might say this about "Western civilization" in general for centuries with the role of the Christian religion. English Victorianism. American church culture. My dad grew up in a very strict, very conservative religious household and he rebelled against it. I don't blame him at all because it sounded really stifling.

The counterculture in the 1960s was about expressing yourself and individual freedom. Conservatives and traditionalists are deeply discomfited by the 1960s, but what did they think was going to happen? It was the negation of what came before. You don't get the negation without the repressed conservatism that preceded it, like a kid who grows up in a conservative household and then goes off to college and goes completely crazy with partying and drinking and having sex all the time because he was deprived that in high school. The wider culture turned to its opposite and embraced unbridled liberty and freedom as abstract ideals. Everything in the world turns into its opposite sooner or later.

But "freedom" and "liberty" has now turned into a kind of unfreedom and a loss of liberty. I think this is like the anti-mask people or "I'm not going to get a vaccine because it's my (abstract) 'right'" and blah blah blah. They've taken away the freedom of others because of their selfishness. The countries that handled the pandemic the best were Asian societies – which are not as conformist or as conservative as some people in the West think but they probably don't put individual freedom on a pedestal as extreme as these American boomers do. You notice they're a lot of boomers, right? But they're often on the political right. They turned to their opposite too and became ultra-individualist "conservatives" (in a sense) holding onto a "system" that is just falling apart.

So maybe what's next is the "negation of the negation." Thus the society returns to its positive. But what that looks like might not look like America in the 1950s.
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Is skin care bourgeois?
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Counter contrarian view: small online internet communities should be purged

One could say that small online internet communities allow people to distance themselves away from the monotony of MSM and normalfag media but what ends up happening in broken down communities is all that happens is a new cult is created, one only has to notice how every fucking(and I repeat) every fucking /pol/ user on this board consistently posts the same types of threads with so little variation that you know who wrote them before even bothering to read their posts, bunkerchan isnt different being that the cult mentality found within its users isnt different with a significant portion of members justifying events like the holodomor or showing blind support for terrorist groups that attack their own people. With other small boards like stormfront obscure reddit communities and sites like 16chan and 8chan the cult like mentality is strong enough that you can find reports of people being driven to suicide, young men committing domestic terrorism to fit in with board culture or on discord when it was still obscure with stories like rico that lead to 100s of victims getting doxed and blackmailed to serve the interests of perverted communities. Unified platforms arent perfect but there are times when I feel like I have more freedom of speech on sites like YouTube's comment section than on blue boards and nsfw boards on 4chan simply because community sizes are too large for any group to organize anything significant much less initiate any psychological damage to themselves or others
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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News 7/30/21

Tens of thousands take to streets of Guatemala demanding resignation of president
ROADS were blocked across Guatemala on Thursday as tens of thousands of workers took part in a national strike to demand the resignation of scandal-ridden President Alejandro Giammettei. Anger erupted after well-known anti-corruption prosecutor Juan Francisco Sandoval was sacked by Attorney General Maria Porras last week.

Acute Food Insecurity To Increase in Colombia, Haiti, Guatemala
FAO and WFP lamented that efforts to combat a global surge in acute food insecurity are often hampered by political tensions and blockages, preventing families on the brink of famine from receiving assistance. Bureaucratic hurdles and lack of funding also slow UN agencies' efforts to provide emergency food assistance and enable farmers to plant at the right time.

Cuba rejects statement by European Union high representative
'I strongly reject statement by the EU High Representative in which he dares not mention by name the genocidal US blockade that violates European sovereignty and imposes its laws and courts on it. About #Cuba, he lies and manipulates,' she wrote.

Salvadorans Protest Against Bukele and Recall Student Massacre
Salvadoran students and workers called for a march against President Nayib Bukele on Friday, the day on which citizens remember the massacre of students at the University of El Salvador on July 30, 1975. … Salvadorans also reject the possibility of reforming the Constitution through a plebiscite to be held in September, despite the fact that the current legal framework does not allow for such a possibility.

Palestinian prisoners in Israel stage hunger strike against administrative detention
“I fear that my child will grow up while I’m away in prison,” Mujahed Hamed, a Palestinian detained in one of Israel's prisons in the Negev region, wrote in a letter to his family. Hamed is among 540 Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli prisons under its contested policy of administrative detention, under which Israel detains individuals - overwhelmingly Palestinians - without trial or charges for renewable periods of up to six months.

Five protesters jailed for role in Kill the Bill demos in Bristol
FIVE protesters have been jailed for a combined total of over 14 years for their role in Kill the Bill demos in Bristol earlier this year. Appearing at Bristol Crown Court today, the defendants had been told to expect prison sentences after four pleaded guilty to rioting and one to public indecency.

Revealed: Science Museum signed gagging clause with exhibition sponsor Shell
The Science Museum has signed a gagging clause in its agreement with Shell International to sponsor its climate change exhibition, agreeing to take care not to say anything that could damage the company’s reputation, Channel 4 News has learnt.

Thai media restrictions raise freedom of expression concerns
While Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has long sought to crack down on what he calls fake news and has a government department devoted to it, the new regulations, announced late Thursday, include the ability to prosecute people for distributing “news that may cause public fear.”

Jobs Lost, Dip in Income: Survey of Delhi Workers During Second Wave Paints Grim Picture
The survey, conducted by the Delhi unit of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) (CPI(M)) during the first two weeks of June this year, found that out of the 1,917 surveyed workers, about 65% of the respondents were not employed at all in the months of April and May while others reported a considerable dip in their income.

Japan’s state of emergency extended to four more regions after worsening Covid numbers
The decision to expand the areas under a state of emergency comes in response to Japan having this week recorded the highest number of positive cases since the start of the pandemic. Friday’s tally of 3,300 came after a record 3,865 cases on Thursday.
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Crypto-MMT-value theory hybrid to take over the world


I’ve been thinking about something tonight that I wanted feedback on, like whether anybody can just tear it apart or give constructive crits. It was basically a riff off of the idea that Bitcoin has a lot of volatility partially because by design its value is volatile (in the classical sense). This isn’t my observation or anything, I’ve seen it in several places, but due to the fact BTC’s block difficulty increases with the hashrate (the material costs of BTC rise) but the reward is arbitrarily fixed to the halving schedule (ever mined block rewards some fixed amount of bitcoin for several years), then the material cost (the labor cost, or similar to Ricardo, in BTC’s own terms the “difficulty”) systematically deviates from the amount of coins produced. Basically, if BTC was like any other commodity the more invested in mining it would produce more of it. But instead, the value of each BTC just inflates because no matter how much you invest in mining it, you keep getting the same amount.

So BTC’s price is just a feedback loop of the speculation on it. There isn’t a normal regulating pressure towards a natural price like other commodities, instead the value just rises with the demand. With other commodities, investment as a response to high demand usually causes the price to fall back down to its value as more are produced at the relatively stable difficulty of its production in terms of labor (all else being equal, ie no big technical changes or exogenous shocks throwing off the conditions of production).

So this has a pretty simple fix, just make something like BTC’s block reward a ratio of its difficulty. The difficulty still rises to make blocks mined at regular intervals, but as the difficulty rises the blocks produce more coins. So that should put a downwards pressure on the price of each bitcoin, it will converge closer to its cost of production as miners sell their BTC on the market for more competitive profit margins between each other and across the wider market.

So there is the crypto and value-theory part, and leave aside for a moment the question of liquidity, why people would be buying and selling this crypto as a medium of exchange. First lets get the big vision in picture. Where does MMT come in? Well, I figured that if you had a sovereign issuer of the currency, like the proverbial “money printer”, then you could use the liquidity of the currency to make money “out of thin air”. But of course, you can’t make too much too fast. It has to be in respect to the liquidity, the open market has to be able to absorb your sale of the crypto without strongly throwing off the price. But again, leave that aside for a moment. Just assume you can, that the market is liquid enough. Imagine the Printer is controlled by the working class, obviously through democratically structured working class organizations. So the Printer is accountable and transparent to the working class.

What does the Printer do with the money? In accordance with MMT, the sovereign issuer can spend as much of its currency as it wants and is only constrained by the productivity of the market that is using it. Basically, as long as more goods and services are being traded in the currency, then it isn’t going to drastically inflate. How does the Printer increase its market, which is basically increasing the size and liquidity of the market for its currency? It uses the money to buy property, which it leases, leases being payable in the currency (as far as I know, in the US you can accept whatever you want for payment federally, but state laws may vary. You just need to pay your taxes in dollars). But why do this, what does it have to do with socialism or the working class? Well, you can buy residential land and lease it back to housing cooperatives you help the tenants form, or for homes you can do what Community Land Trusts do and kind of simulate a housing market, except you lower the costs significantly by turning the land value into a modest lease (which is basically georgism, CLTs are like little non-profit georgists).

So now you’re taking residential property off of the housing market and leasing it for modest fees payable in the crypto. This creates liquidity as it raises demand for the crypto, stabilizing the price as when the exchange rate to dollars is low the lessees will buy more so they can pay cheaper fees, which pushes the price back up. So you’re creating a growing market in the crypto, and you’re culling landlordism. Great, but we can go further.

So take how businesses often get sold. Often the buyer will buy the assets + goodwill of the business and leave the actual LLC or corporation as a shell that still has all of its liabilities. So you avoid any hidden debt bombs or anything like that. The Printer can do the same thing, but the Printer isn’t interested in owning businesses. It just wants to lease property to the people who live and work with it to control it mutually. So instead it buys the assets + goodwill and it tells the employees it will help them form a worker cooperative and lease them the stuff. Of course, they pay it in the crypto. So now we are in businesses, and we are converting them to worker coops while continuing to expand the liquidity of our currency in a virtuous cycle.

I think that is a decent summary of the big vision, so now jump backwards to how you get started. It would be very difficult, as crypto people will be skeptical of a Proof of Work coin that has what appears as an arbitrarily powerful network participant. Why have this decentralized PoW coin but also a money printer? Well on one hand ideally the crypto is actually competitive when it comes to transaction fees, so that businesses and individuals might be induced to choose it to make transactions and transfer money rather than something like Visa. If that is the case, great, we are in the free market now! But I don’t think you want to rely on that, after all how do you market this thing? The crypto space is awash in random scammy coins, how do you stand out and grow enough to start your scheme of printing and selling crypto to raise money?

That is where practical politics comes in, the only way I can imagine it is if you partner with currently existing orgs and influential people on the left. And after all, this isn’t supposed to be your dictatorship, it has to be sustainable. It has to be democratically accountable, the working class needs to engage with it and have oversight of it, have a stake. So you partner with some orgs that have reach through either their membership or simply their social presence, and they communicate what is going on. Hopefully then you have an activist base that basically starts trying to help by finding ways to transact in the currency, contributing computing power to a mining pool would be easy and helpful, to increase its liquidity. They’re basically indirectly funding the project, so you’re pooling funds without using crowdfunding or issuing securities. It is all decentralized, people are mining the coins themselves. It is only later when the market is more liquid that the Printer comes in, prints some and sells it at the market rate. Then it gets to work.

Ideally this would grow exponentially, as there would be that virtuous cycle of growing the market for the currency by acquiring and leasing property in the currency (simulating a tax basically). Eventually you’d probably run into legal trouble, hopefully because of how threatening you look, and you start getting sued or dragged before Congress or something. But this is actually good and normal. You’re being threatening, you’ve started expropriating the capitalist class with their own tools. It is like a leveraged buyout of their class’s property. But when Congress or the SEC or whatever starts taking you to task, starts calling you criminal, you just make it loud and clear in public that all you’ve done is increase the wealth of the working class. You’re not price gouging or anything, what is your crime? Who are you hurting? Obviously the answer is the bourgeoisie, you’re threatening their hegemony over capital. So the class struggle comes out, there is a real alternative being presented. Do you want control over the money printer to be in the hands of this cabal of assholes who are trying to stop you so they can continue funding military adventures and benefits for the wealthy? Or do you go with the money printer that lowered the cost of living of hopefully hundreds of thousands of people and made them wealthier by cutting out their landlords and capitalists?

Last thing I’ll say is that obviously this idea is low on details, which would necessarily be messy as finding real political consensus and will on the left to embark on such an exotic project would be hard. I think a lot of the bigger orgs would feel threatened by it too, in the sense that they’d feel the inherent risk involved. But ironically I think that risk comes from how this structure would definitely expose them to various forms of legal harassment due to how it doesn’t really have many institutional precedents. The DSA has an institutional shape, it is a non-profit political association. Labor unions have institutional shapes, they have prescribed channels with calculable risk. But something like this doesn’t, which is a part of what gives it its opportunity. It would have to have a strong democratic connection to the people it is participating with. The tenants would need to have powers in something like the bylaws of the Printer, like the ability to veto any proposed building sale by the Printer. I think aside from any democratic means of appointing the managers of the Printer (through the orgs or through membership as tenants or whatever), those kinds of isolated veto powers would be helpful in making sure that the larger org doesn’t abuse the smaller parts that are using the mutually owned property, and the smaller parts don’t abuse the whole
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Effective Altruism

What does /leftypol/ think about the Effective Altruism movement?
For those of you who don't know it a very popular idea among Silicon Valley business leaders and focuses on doing the most good in the world by focusing on the long term outcomes of earth based life many many generations in the future.

Current Affairs recently published an article criticizing it
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What is your honest opinion on Counterpunch? I keep following it because I like Jeffrey St. Clair and Patrick Cockburn, but half of what they publish has the feel of planted stories from the state department and the other half is so amateurish it's like they deliberately curate material from children.
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whats your thoughts on juan peron ? hes been called a fascist, a communist, a populist, an example of "real existing third positionism" and a nazbol so what the fuck is his actual views ? are there any argentinians here that can tell me about this guy ?
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are tourists allowed in USA left?

for some reasons i need to travel to the US of A;as socialist,am I welcome to partake in leftist activities during my stay there?
should i abstain from going to fast food places due to the explotation there? can i interact with the homeless?
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What would be the case for gradually pushing further left by disguising yourselves as liberals? It seems overt abrasive screeching ML talking points on twitter isn't very effective at persuading normies.
>muh appeel to da centur
yes. and the center will move left
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Thoughts on "survivors of Communism"

I've seen a lot of stories on the Internet regarding… survivors of Communism? Are they really "survivors"? Or are they just seeking freedom after being brainwashed internally by CIA psyops asking them to flee (x) and we reward you with
>muh freedom?
Do they really suffer? Do they really live in misery?
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Are fed agents really watching anyone on this board?

With the amount of VPN usage, false flagging, larping, and hacking that occurs on this site and the land of obscure imageboards as a whole collecting information on the people that browse imageboards would be exceptionally difficult especially when you consider that multiple people can be using the same IP address or addresses that lead to dead ends or imageboard users can simply live in countries that the cia goons and the FEDs have little control over. On top of that it's been documented on sites like stormfront and 8Kun the feds have repeatedly failed to prevent outbreaks of terrorism or the sharing of cheese pizza and amount to nothing more than a boogeyman on most imageboards to derail threads that could reveal the information of anons. Am I right or does someone have anything to counter me
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Althusser on Philosophy, Science, Marxism

This is part of the reading series we're doing in the Continental Floppa reading group formerly the anti-Anglo reading group. The plan is to read 1 chapter per week (breaking up chapter 3 into the 3 lectures). This is a selection of lectures and essays by Louis Althusser on the topics of philosophy relative to science and politics. This thread is for discussion and to invite people to the reading group, which can be found here https://matrix.to/#/!mjlMGagFTDhvgxMWhY:matrix.org/

Our schedule has recently changed. We now discuss on Sundays.
UTC (UTC +0) 19:00 (5pm) Universal time
EDT (UTC -4) 15:00 (3pm) Eastern US (daylight savings time)
CEST (UTC +2) 21:00 (7pm) Central Europe (summer time)

The next session will be Sunday 27th June, covering essay 1:
Theory, Theoretical Practice and Theoretical Formation: Ideology and Ideological Struggle
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Thoughts on censorship?

What do you guys think about censorship? Particularly those done by seemingly "authoritarian" regimes like China and North Korea and to a lesser extent Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Russia? Are they beneficial? Does that enhance a country's online security? Or is it something that bis more like taking the bluepill by the fact that you can't access to different viewpoints, instead just seeing the same "I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG" mentality by the government?
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Piggy Watch General

Now that the whole Minneapolis saga with George Floyd has come to an end.

Piggys still out here causing problems for us proles.

So I wanna make a thread where we just post news reporting of piggys activities and stuff.
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/leftypol/ To-do List

06/05/21 revision:
Recreate the reading sticky
Various small UI corrections (e.g >>6189 , >>6125 , flag squashing)
Constitutional reworking (including a concrete policy for proposal of new features, requiring public announcement before actual consideration, and requiring any external offers/proposals/communications to be brought before the community prior to any engagement)
Review of character limit after a short period
Develop proper anti-spam measures
Filters for analrectal and thingnoticer
Custom captcha (only to be used during heavy raids)
J-SON integration
Determine future policy for banning standards on /leftypol/ and /b/
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Reading General:

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engles Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.
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video games are dead and boring

i don't enjoy playing vidya anymore like i used to. it feels like you wait for that one decent game every half a decade and then its back to filtering through piles of actual shit worth your time.
single player games feel like vapid clones of each other and just non engaging in general.
multiplayer game communities don't even have that soul in them anymore.

what went wrong? is it the industry taking a dump or is it just me?
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Opinion: How U.S. Global Infrastructure Push Will Affect Belt and Road

TLDR: the BBBW is too late and not enough

>According to available information, we have the following predictions:

>First, due to the serious shortage of global infrastructure, even if the U.S.-led B3W initiative can provide $40 trillion to developing countries by 2035, it would not squeeze Belt and Road’s investment space.

>In fact, the participation of the U.S. and its allies in global infrastructure may bolster the global economy and also indirectly benefit China, the world’s largest steel producer and exporter. If B3W and BDN are carried out as planned, they may bring some positive effect on China’s economic growth.

>Second, the U.S.-led programs will surely put some pressure on Belt and Road, although they may not necessarily have a major negative impact on the program. For example, the U.S. would provide loans to countries at lower interest rates, propose higher standards of transparency in terms of capital sources and loan flows, pay more attention to environmental issues in the process of infrastructure construction, attract a larger proportion of private sector capital to global infrastructure construction, pursue a more market-oriented manner and so on.

>Third, given that BDN was jointly initiated by the U.S., Japan and Australia, it would mainly focus on Southeast Asia and the Indo-Pacific region. The ASEAN countries are key participants in China’s Belt and Road Initiative. The 10 member countries have obtained more than 60% of the investment of all Belt and Road countries. In the future, increased infrastructure investment by the U.S. and its allies in Southeast Asia is likely to put some competitive pressure on Chinese companies, but it will also improve the globalization level of China’s industrial supply chains. From this perspective, BDN will actually provide an opportunity for China to prevent and defuse “U.S.-China Decoupling,” the current biggest external risk for China. Therefore, the expansion of economic and trade exchanges and bilateral investment between China and ASEAN countries could help avoid a new Cold War between the world’s two biggest economies.

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/read/ 2.0

Hello and welcome comrades! This is the new /read/ thread.

>What is /read/?

</read/ is a collective of marxist reading groups, hailing from /edu/ and /GET/. We are split into various different reading groups, each with different interests, goals and schedules.

We're making a new thread to let everyone know that /read/ is still very much alive. In fact, we're inviting everyone to join in for our new batch of readings! Our groups are done with previous readings, so this is the perfect time for new members to join up!

As of today, May 30th 2021, the /sniff/ group is done reading volume 1 of Capital. We have a new batch of readings planned (more on that in the post below), and all are invited to join. Meanwhile, the /tilmeeth/ group is gearing up to read Capital, so if anyone missed out on the first round, this is your chance.

As always, our website, containing our library and reading lists is: https://leftyread.neocities.org
And our Matrix Community, where all discussion happens, can be found at: https://matrix.to/#/+leftyread:matrix.org
Old thread: >>3624

Come /read/ with us!
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Any left-wing foreign affairs sites?

I would like to ask you guys for links or names of left-wing foreign affairs sites that are not part of mainstream media or far-right alternative media. I would like to read them. I'm interested on those topics.

Why? Because I don't live in America, rather Indonesia, where there are basically NO left-wing local news sources out of fear of being punished. (Therefore, I'm not involving myself into American politics. Most sites focus on local American politics and not international affairs so far what I've seen. I want sites that are similar to mainstream media (where they report foreign affairs A LOT) but NOT part of mainstream media (CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, Economist, Insider, MSN, Fox, AP, AFP, Reuters, New York Times, etc.))

P.S.: Before you call me a larper, before you call me a false flag, before you do the same errors to me like you have did in:
see the given images first.
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Non-English Language Bugs

The current imageboard software (tinyboard/vichan/lainchan/leftypol) seems to have all been made and maintained without ever thinking properly about non-English letters. Let's fix that.

Have you had any issues with non-English letters? Please report any issues with examples here to help us fix them.
(If the site won't let you post a word, try posting it in a picture or writing it on another website like privatebin/cryptpad/pastebin and linking)

We already know that some word-filters are incorrectly filtering words with non-English characters (which will be fixed soon) and some letters breaking the post function >>6927 but there may be more issues that we can fix at the same time.

Post any features that have language issues: reporting, search, filenames, whatever.
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On a daily basis we get threads regarding this topic which devolve into endless autistic screeching, moralizing, thinly veiled or mask off reactionary judgements, essentialism, bastardization of materialism, conflation of gender and sex, liberal crybullying, woke scolding, false flagging, without the conversation ever moving anywhere and overall it's just very tiresome to deal with to the point that it would be necessary to do something about this before it completely undermines the already lack luster quality of the site.

If nothing is done, we might as well all just stop posting here and leave the Culture Warriors to do their thing until they cause yet another split.
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/leftypol/ flags

ITT retrieve old and currently-missing /leftypol/ flags that would be good to add back.
I found the Technocrat and snibetti snab flags. I know the Anarcho-Transhumanism flag is missing and I want to find it and have it added back if possible (t. anarcho transhumanist anon). Pics related

P.S. the "Athiesm" flag is misspelled, it's spelled Atheism.
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what are some nihilist anime?
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>wake up
>eat commodity
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E-Reader appreciation thread

I love my electronic reader, I must have read hundreds of books on it, all free thanks to the pirate comrades and websites like library genesis, mobilism or archive.org.

Picrel is a Kobo Aura with Plato as OS. I hear KOreader is also good.

So fellow anons, do you live fully in the current year? Do you own an e-reader? Do you love it? Are you still hesitating to get one?
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Iranian Revolution

What is the marxist/materialist explanation for the iranian revolution? doesn't it disprove historical materialism due to being motivated by religion and not CLASS CONFLICT?
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Old /co/ thread is dead and buried.
Let's have a new thread to talk about comics and animation.
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J. Posadas

Has anyone read the works of J. Posadas?
I found that a curious amount of writings of his have been listed under Google Books, although many of the texts seem to be rare such as pic related.
It seems he has written on a number of subjects including family, sex, different countries and such. What do you all think?
Obviously there's the shit he wrote about UFOs, dolphins and nuclear war, etc. but I thought it might be interesting to discuss his other views as well, and see what he may have had to say?
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News 7/29/21

British-based Kurds demand action after attack of author on ‘Erdogan hit list’
Gokhan Yavuzel was assaulted by a mob on Tuesday, soon after his name appeared on a hit list of critics of Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP). He was knocked unconscious during the attack, which he said was carried out by four people swearing at him in Turkish.

Middle East wildfires: Turkey and Lebanon fight blazes as deaths reported
At least three people are known to have died in Turkey as a result of fires in the country's south, while a teenage boy has been reported killed in fires in the Qubayyat area of Lebanon's remote Akkar region.Turkey's AFAD disaster agency and agriculture minister said rescue efforts were underway after a second day of fires in the southern provinces, while more than 100 people had been evacuated, required medical treatment or suffered property damage.

Armenia asks Russia to deploy soldiers to frontier with Azerbaijan, as shootout kills three soldiers & sparks fear of new conflict
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has called on Moscow to deploy more peacekeepers to his country’s border with Azerbaijan, as both nations accuse each other of violating an agreed ceasefire after a day of bloody fighting.

Call for Hungarian ministers to resign in wake of Pegasus revelations
Hungary’s opposition has called for ministerial resignations from Viktor Orbán’s far-right government over allegations it selected journalists, media owners and opposition political figures as potential targets for invasive Pegasus spyware.

Russia rejects Dutch court ruling to hand $5 BILLION of taxpayers’ cash to ex-oligarchs over collapse of Yukos oil & gas empire
Earlier that day, representatives of the shareholders who lost cash when the former oil and gas conglomerate collapsed claimed victory in legal proceedings that handed them a total of $5 billion in compensation. A separate claim, for a total of $57 billion, is currently being heard by the Supreme Court of the Netherlands.

Kerala BJP, CPI(M) engage in a war of words as Covid cases continue to soar
“50% of the Covid positive cases come from Kerala, thanks to Eid relaxations. But as expected the narrative would always be built around kumbh or Kanwar yatra. Hmmm… Kerala model,” tweeted BJP spokesman Sambit Patra. …The CPI(M), however, criticised the BJP for making the issue communal, saying the virus has no religion or caste. “Kerala has lowest seroprevalence rate. People here are more vulnerable to infection."

Peru's Castillo chooses leftist party colleague as PM
Bellido, an electronic engineer, vowed he would represent the interests of all Peruvians and advance "the fight against corruption." … Like the president, Bellido has a rural, peasant background. Both wear traditional white sombreros – though Bellido's hails from his native Cusco region and that of Castillo, 51, from Cajamarca.

Bolivia confirms shipment of solidarity aid to Cuba
Bolivian President Luis Arce on Thursday confirmed the shipment of syringes, food and biosecurity supplies to Cuba in the framework of reciprocity between peoples. All our solidarity with the Caribbean nation, which not only faces the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic but also the brutal economic, commercial and financial blockade imposed by the United States, the president wrote on his Twitter account.

Former Bolivian president Morales calls for regional coca production unity against US domination
FORMER Bolivian president Evo Morales called on Wednesday for the relaunch of the Andean Council of Coca Leaf Producers and an end to US meddling in Latin America. He was speaking on a tour of Peru, where he met coca leaf producers and warned of the malign influence of Washington.

Venezuela Rejects Colombia’s ‘Cynical’ Terror Allegations
“Don’t be so cynical [Duque]. You are at the head of a narco government that exports drugs and violence. A factory of terrorists in power that has eliminated the option of internal peace and sends mercenaries to generate violence and assassinate Presidents in the region,” wrote Arreaza on Twitter.
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/WYOA/: write your own anime thread

post your ideas about epic anime:
>battle shouen stylized seinnen but instead of battles there is science and research related stuff, like conferences, and data gathering
>main character is PhD student at tokyo university researching something very technical and complicated with the objective of curing world hunger or something.
>some ideas for arcs
>MC battling for funding with someone trying to use the money for something fucking useless but profitable
>MC sabotaging people trying to use his work for evil, like building weapons, or kill people directly or indirectly
>MC fights against large corporation trying to sabotage his work, because it cuts their profits
>MC realises his scientific approach was wrong and has to pivot several times, and has to learn new skills (training arcs)
>MC realises his knowledge is incomplete and has to go to a master from another discipline to teach him, he gets taught a moral lesson about the nature of science
>MC's PhD master gets killed by the corporation trying to stop him, so he swears revenge on them, and uses science shit to do so
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How do you dress? What are you wearing today? How should you dress, as a Marxist? Which trends are proletarian and which are bourgeois?
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Posting doesn't work for me

Or perhaps posting does, but I can't see the new posts.
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Rust Lang

Why does Rust get hate here? I know its a memed language but is there any good reason not to use it other than be contrarian?
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Boku no hero

The finally of season 4 was actually pretty tight even if gentle arc was fucking dumb.
I normally dont like shounentrash but the animation and art is pretty fuckin good.
Also Eri is adorable.
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What is the materialist view of him?

>Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Sayf al-Otaybi (Arabic: جهيمان بن محمد بن سيف العتيبي‎ ‎16 September 1936[1][2] – 9 January 1980) was a Saudi militant and soldier who in 1979 led the Grand Mosque seizure of the Great Mosque of Mecca, Saudi Arabia's holiest mosque, to protest against the Saudi monarchy.

>Juhayman said that his justification for the siege was that the House of Saud had lost its legitimacy through corruption and imitation of the West, an echo of his father's charge in 1921 against former Saudi king Ibn Saud. Unlike earlier anti-monarchist dissidents in the kingdom, attacked the Saudi ulama for failing to protest against policies that betrayed Islam, and accused them of accepting the rule of an infidel state and offering loyalty to corrupt rulers in "exchange for honours and riches."[3]

>On 20 November 1979, the first day of the Islamic year 1400, the Great Mosque of Mecca was seized by a well-organized group of 400 to 500 men under al-Otaybi's leadership.[4] A siege lasted more than two weeks before Saudi special forces broke into the mosque.[4] French Special Forces provided a special tear gas (CS gas) which prevents aggressiveness and slows down breathing.[4] Al-Otaybi was executed by the Saudi authorities, in public, on 9 January 1980, in Mecca.
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Your Personal Top 5 (Five) Sources

So /edu/, what are your personal Top 5 texts
Lectures, videos, or books that really struck a chord with you or in some way influenced your thinking?
>bonus kudos for links, .pdfs, etc.
>xposting welcome

Hopefully the peeps who contributed to the last thread are still lurking and contribute again, because I didn't get a chance to save all the recommendation last time and it >>332596 died
So much insightful and personal content, gone ;_;7
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Late Capitalism Simulator

Lately I’ve seen a huge influx of good games that try to update the outdated capitalist realist Cyberpunk genre to the current political and economic landscape. Stuff like Disco Elysium is getting more and more recognition they rightfully deserve for depicting the hopeless and bleak death of modern revolution. However they’re still have some semblance of hope like with Ghostrunner having the corporation being destroyed by a revolution in contrast to the sad oppression of the system.

Another great but obscure example is whatever the fuck Cruelty Squad is. It’s fully embraced the boring drug fueled dystopia aesthetic while delivering basically Deus Ex but without the stealth. Compared to the faux shell of a Cyberpunk game 2077 was (full of cyber but nothing about the societal implications of such technologies other than some edgy infantile “message” about “soul”), this game have everything and everyone be miserable using the cyber-enhancements. Space colonization and AI being pipe dreams. Corporations are not knowingly malicious but only apart of the rot of capitalism.
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How do people live like this

How do so many proles in places like pic rel(read the filename) spend everyday walking down the same streets with the same sets of advertisements posted everyday with buissnesses and factories running rampant polluting the atmosphere all while consumerism and government corruption rain supreme all for the purpose of manipulating the civilians in these cities into living a life of never ending hedonistic consumption coupled with actual wage slavery. If I had to live in New York city for even a week I'd likely kill myself…
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Capitalist Atrophy of Nationalism

Just what exactly is the true relation of nationalism and capitalism? Nationalism taken to extreme is fascism, although some comrades believe that fascism is capitalism in decay. Yet capitalism tends toward transnationalism, globalism, reduced trade boundaries, so that it can optimize its logistics, evade taxes, and bypass laws for the maximization of profits.

A noticeable effect of hypercapitalism (capitalism at the globalized stage) is how it atrophies its host nations and the pillars of nationalistic authority. Consider for instance, the considerable brain drain away from high skilled educated white caller workers moving away from government roles and instead going to work for Big Tech where they can get paid for and work in a tee shirt. Granted, Big Tech has all sorts of incestuous contracts with the government to the extent that the line between them is blurring, but there is the impression that the technological level of governments hosting these companies is second rate to the private interests.

Another aspect of it is that capitalism does the absolute most it can to avoid taxes, and the international corporate law allows Google for example to avoid taxes by incorporating in Ireland using the so called double Irish loophole. Capitalism seemingly inevitably atrophies its host nations, especially by leading to overwhelming wealth concentration and the corresponding decline in the public good.

Considering America has allowed capitalism to completely parasitize it is the leading example of this phenomenon and its current trajectory backs up this analysis.

A few questions:

1. Is there a relation between fascism and capitalism? If so, how does that square with the above?
2. How does China, which tightly controls its private sector, factor into this?
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can I use the cytube to watch cartoons with comrades?
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The Left IS Western Civilization!

The Left IS Western Civilization - Or rather Platonic Civilization.

Political wings can be the entirety of civilizations:
1) Where the opposing wing (Right) is chiefly responsible for the degradation and destruction of said civilization, the opposed wing (Left), by process of elimination IS it.
2) Where theorists of the opposing (Right) political wing betray the original context of the civilization for a rootless, reactionary mysticism, the opposed (Left) political wing IS it.
3) Where the opposing wing (Right, Left-Liberal) denounce the very founders of said civilization, the opposed wing (Left) IS it.
4) Where said political wing (left) has historically demonstrated the ability to rejuvenate that civilization, that wing IS it.
5) Despite ethnic differences from the original form of that civilization, by exemplifying its theories, a political wing (Left) may seize claim to and own that civilization as its true heir and thereby BECOME it.

Particular historical facts to the above premise:
i) Historically speaking and in the present, it is the world right wing that is responsible for the destruction of Western civilization, that is, Platonic Civilization (The civilization that embodies the Form of the Good by turning Philosophers-in-Training into Philosopher-Kings, like Lenin, Stalin). Just look at the amount of destruction Operation Barbarossa inflicted:
> The combined damage consisted of complete or partial destruction of 1,710 cities and towns, 70,000 villages/hamlets, 2,508 church buildings, 31,850 industrial establishments, 64,000 kilometres (40,000 mi) of railroad, 4,100 railroad stations, 40,000 hospitals, 84,000 schools, and 43,000 public libraries; leaving 25 million homeless. Seven million horses, 17 million cattle, 20 million pigs, 27 million sheep were also slaughtered or driven off. (The New York Times, 9 February 1946, Volume 95, Number 32158)
> 40000 hospitals, 84000 schools, 43000 public libraries
- Furthermore, consider the left tendency of raising literacy considerably (Russia, China, Cuba) whenever it gets power. It goes to the core of the Transformation of Philosopher into Philosopher-King, which is the Form of the Good, the whole essence of Platonic Civilization.
- Now consider that the current climate change crisis is a capitalist crisis. Also consider the amount of destruction American intervention does (Operation Condor, book burning in Chile, Cuba etc).
ii) Evola's theory, of the Right, is literally an attempt to Indianize the world away from the Platonic Kali Yuga. Think of the Brahmins chanting above the masses, mired in faeces, shitting in the streets. Evola betrayed the Platonic project for Indic, varna-based mysticism. The swastika of the Nazis and of Hindutva is not an accident. Modern India is the "utopia" (i.e. dystopia) rightists wish to turn Platonic civilization into. (On the Dark Age, from Revolt against the Modern World). Poo poo pee pee, Delta Covid farty fart.
iii) Popper, filthy socdem, denounces Plato, the whole founder of "Western Civilization", i.e. Platonic Civilization. (Popper, K.R. The Open Society and its Enemies. p. 65). Stephane Courtois, liberal democrat, further defames Plato:
> Courtois states that "[w]e must make a distinction between the doctrine of communism and its practice. As a political philosophy, communism has existed for centuries, even millennia."[8]:2 Courtois cites Plato's Republic and Thomas More as communist examples of what he terms utopian philosophy (Courtois, Stéphane (ed.). The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. Harvard University Press. pp. 92–97, 116–121. )
iv) Look at the French Revolution and the October Revolution. Like a phoenix from the ashes, the Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire were reborn ultimately as the French republic and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Look at the Great Qing, the Republic of China and pay attention to how through all the British, French and Japanese imperialism, under left theory they rejuvenated.
v) China, despite being Han, embodies Plato's project upon this earth. Likewise, the Soviets were Slavs, Turkics, Jews etc yet nonetheless embodied it. The revolutionary French were the result of a Frankish-Germanic and Gallic-Romance admixture. None of these peoples were Hellenic nor Greek, yet they lived up to Plato's ideals.

The Left IS Western (Platonic) Civilization!
1) Rightism in Barbarossa, American imperialism indicate it is the negation of that civilization. By process of elimination, the Left IS Western (Platonic) Civilization!
2) Evolism of the Right betrayed the Platonic project of Western Civilization in favour of the Vedic one. That leaves the Left becoming it.
3) Popper and Courtois denounce Plato's project, our project of Western Civilization. Therefore, we are it.
4) Wherever the Left has worked, we have brought those civilizations back from the brink - Revolutionary France, the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China. From the direst straits of French Revolutionary Wars, the Russian Civil War and WWI and the aftermath of the Opium Wars and the Sino-Japanese Wars, the Left alone has rejuvenated those direly crippled civilization. We ARE Western (Platonic) Civilization
5) Although the French, October and Chinese revolutions were never Hellenic, they all demonstrably lived up to Plato's ideals. We ARE Western (Platonic) Civilization. In fact, China is the true form of Western Civilization that Gandhi said would be a good idea on this planet.

<TL;DR: It's not we leftists that are destroying Western (Platonic) Civilization it's the rightists.

Additionally, look at the Spengler pic. Look at the pessimism and negativity within it. Spengler, of the right, severely threatens the Platonic project with that filthy, unthinking pessimism. Spenglerism and Hitler were inextricably linked.

The Left IS Western Civilization!
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I have finally embraced socialism;what now?

AS A transhumanist and anti-natalist ,i have embraced the Left; my eternal Being ad possible Movarec jumping/quantum reincarnation makes it in my best interest to improve general conditions for all humans(as i might already be/will be,all or any human):I still think abortio is murder but 5 minutes of lethal pain may save 80 years of horribly mental pain and a 1/3 chance of being born several disabled.

anyways;what now?do I join an org?tweet lefitst memes? There ARE orgs and leftist parties in my countries, do i just email them and start volunteering for their activities?
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==Patriotism is praxis!==

much of this is a copy paste from the burger thread decided to have a serious thread on the concept of patriotism and socialism

Anons reactionaries don't own patriotism!
Anons patriotism is a love for the people!
Anons the "nation" is it's people and it's health is it's people's health!
Anons these reactionaries claim to love our "nation" yet hate our people the proletariat
Anons don't let reactionaries define patriotism!!!
Anons the embodiment of love for the people, which are the proletariat has been embodied by the term patriotism. (Whether you like that or not)

Juche Love's patriotism, Cuba Love's patriotism, the USSR loved patriotism! The reactionaries want to label you "anti-patriotic", this is all a attempt to separate you from the people. Which is why they love the "Left's" anti-americanism. They then use their billionaire funded platforms, to say inflammatory rhetoric that since leftist hate America; they hate YOU the American citizens. We fall into this anti-americanism to easily. We are right to criticize, most this nations history and the bourgeoisie that have enabled it. Still the people of America see a attack on it's image to be a personal attack.

Remember the nation is the people, that embody it. The term patriotism is seen this way, by Americans and the world alike. (Again whether you like that or not)
The bourgeoisie has tried to tie themselves to this patriotic image. Actively using it to brow beat the left as anti-populous through this. This doesnt negate that they the bourgeoisie are fully the usurper's, exploiters, and Leach's of the whole of the nation. when I say nation think the people every time I say nation think the people! It is time to call reactionaries what they are FRAUDS! It is time to expose them for their hatred of the people again the proles.

They see the county as a symbol when it is the whole of law and control of economics. (You know the partnership of the bourgeois state with the bourgeoisie class) Nationalism to me is different then patriotism, is it not the case that nationalism is the worship of the symbolism of the nation? They love the flag, "the process" "the holy constitution document". We must show this as fake loyalty to the people. They are only loyal to symbols and their own self interest in profit. We must humanize patriotism to make it class based!
We must make that flag be the good of our history. The history of the labor movement, women suffrage, civil rights movement. Remember anons everything redeeming about America even to Normie's stems from the left!

This is also a thread to discuss the history of patriotism in 20th century socialism. Share quote's and events on countries and leaders views back then. Also I'm looking for a quote by comrade Kim Il-sung on patriotism.(maybe you know what i mean I hope)Comrades Total! Empathy or the people and the dictatorship of the proletariat the socialist nation that encases it, is the only way forward love your fellow prole like a Christian loves god!

Anons don't fall for their tricks to separate us from the working class, we do in fact represent!!!!!!!!!
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This image told me not just so much about anarchists but socialists in general

None of these spanish socialists are prepared for long term combat
>they have no food sources
>they have no body protection like bullet proof vests or helmets
>they have no ammo supplies
>they have no medical supplies
>they have no self preservational skills or tools
>they're completely disorganized and are just letting a bunch of asshats with rifles and funny hats try starting a civil war with equipment they got from neighboring countries
These people have spent so much of their time arguing over which idea of running an economy would work without barring the inefficiencies and systems of exploitation under capitalism over actually building that socialist utopia that when they actually try to apply their ideas in historical context it completely fails not necessarily because socialism cant work(because it has or at least well enough that socialists under it lived under better conditions compared to most of the planet) but because of the people trying to achieve communism through socialism and the level of incompetence and blatant displays of irresponsibility present in leadership. Oh well
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Is luddism good?

Is being a technophobe or luddite really just a distorted form of class consciousness? Technological advances usually have their benefits accrue to capitalists first. So workers blame the machine and not the class/force behind it, because the machine is the face or presentation of the inhuman nature of capitalism itself
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Hi /leftypol/
There's been talk recently about US intelligence agencies (CIA,FBI,NSA etc) spying and conducting astroturfing operations on various websites including Twitter, 4Chan, Reddit and obviously here /leftypol/.

I would like to remind everyone that you can use tor to browse this site (and other sites) anonymously, for newcomers it's very easy to use, just download it from here (https://www.torproject.org/) install it, open it and click connect.
There are mobile apps too:

After installing it use the Onion Link for leftypol.org:

You don't even have to remember this address, you can configure tor to do the translation from regular sites (non-onion links) to onion links, so you only have to type "leftypol.org" and it will redirect you to the .onion link
>Open tor
>Hamburger Menu (Right Upper Corner)
>Privacy & Security
>Onion Services-> Always

You can use the site normally, post images and such.

Posting this here instead of /meta/ because almost no one reads /meta/, if mods want they can move the thread, but I think it should stay here at least for some hours.

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I heard Nagatoro was adapted recently is it worth watching?
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Is quantum mechanics the biggest killer of metaphysics?

I wanna see if any big brain anons can wrap their heads around why quantum mechanics killed all form of metaphysical thinking. All physical phenomena are quantum manifestation of a field with many potential energies.

Quantum mechanics essentially killed many metaphysics philosophers and now all they do is cope.
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Quite a few comments on this video claim that Cockshott is misrepresenting Hegel's work.


Is Cockshott correct, is Hegel just doing intellectual sleight of hand?

The video itself seems to be part of a series responding to comments from his blog where he seems to claim that Dialectical Materialism was invented by social democrats to corrupt Marx's work.

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Austrian school

What made the Austrian school of economics so bankrupt? Where did their critiques comes from? And even though they failed in the end, why is it that they are always brought up despite their bankruptcy?
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With respect to the will of the users of GETchan, I propose removing both links to /GET/ and /ref/ in the boardlist and the landing page, as well as severing most other remaining ties.
GETchan and leftypol have diverged significantly enough to have developed irreconcilable differences. But more importantly, neither site benefits from linking to one another. If anything, attempting to maintain a relationship with GETchan is ultimately a fruitless waste of time for the administrators of both sites. Furthermore, I do not expect any noticeable drop in board traffic or post quality by removing such links, and it goes without saying that if GETchan users want to use leftypol they probably know where to find us.
I understand the historical significance of GETchan to leftypol, and I'm not suggesting that we go full Orwell and memoryhole it. I'm only suggesting that we opt to remember and respect GETchan "from a distance" so to speak.
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Graphics dont matter

Theres no way to improve 3d models, textures or lighting anymore what matters are animations and physics along with art and game design these days, battlefield 2042 wont look better than bfv, bf3 hell maybe not even bad company 2 but what it can do to show it's an improvement is by implementing improvements to its physics engine to make the world feel more interactible and immersive like bf1
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If the Anarcho-Communists won in Spain would this have literally any affect on history?

Considering Spain was already more or less totally irrelevant on the World stage by 1936 and considering Franco sat out WWII anyway even after Hitler was like “Hey buddy, you’re a fascist, I’m a fascist, let’s team up” could it be said that the outcome of the Spanish Civil War had no real historical significance for anyone other than the people of Spain? Like, Spain has continued to be relatively insignificant anyway, I know anarchists seethe over the war, but literally what would their victory have changed?
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/math/ general

All good communists study math.

What are you studying right now? What is your favorite field of mathematics and why?

Personally, I really like the book "Linear Algebra Done Right" by Sheldon Axler. It is on Libgen if you are interested and I attached a pdf.
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It seems as if Bezo's popularity is skyrocketing.

Ever since Musk and Bezos has been making news about their space program it seems as if people across the world have been revitalized in their love of billionaires. I guess all porky needed to do to kick the sails of the left is to fund space theatrics…Just look at this https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/billionaire-space-race has eradicated all class consciousness in the youth.
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Marxism and envy

How do you refute the claim made by oh-so-virtuous reactionaries that Marxism is a "philosophy of envy" in the sense that communists (or workers in general) only seek to control the means of production and seize the wealth of the rich because they are envious of the rich?

Did Marx and Engels ever express envy of the rich for having too much in their writings? And if they did, was it not just a means of mobilizing workers to revolt?

Please refute the dumb b1tch in the video for me please.
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Technical idealism

Here is a video from a nice youtube channel that combines entertainment with education.

If you didn't watch, it explains the potential for using the heat storage capacity of houses to buffer energy for reducing peak loads on the grid and for buffering renewable energy fluctuations. This can be achieved by using networked devices like the so called smart thermostats that dynamically time shift energy consumption from heating and cooling in the home to low-power-demand periods of the day like late into the night.

It's a very efficient scheme, but reality will look very different. Technical optimization of this type produce a value add which could be used for the benefit of the end user like the video describes it, but that value add is going to be captured by capitalists instead. They will use any of these efficiency gains to reduce their investment-cost in fixed capital like power-transmission-lines and generators. They will not do stuff like improve the grid capacity, they will maximize switching off low income users as long as the existing capacity is enough to not inconvenience all the rich people that will pay higher rates. It will create a divide in society for the ability to use energy.

But minimizing cost and maximizing profitability at the expense of end users is not the only abuse vector. It allows for energy use profiling, which causes all sorts of privacy violations. These will have consequences like the power company being able to find out about your "inflexible power demands" where you will pay the higher electricity price no matter what. Do you like to brew hot caffeinated been juice in the morning ?, well get ready to have your addiction monetized!

This system also gives Capitalists the ability to influence demand. Capitalists do not want to sell commodities for low prices with low profit margins they want to sell for high prices with high profit margins. So what will capitalists do with the ability to control electricity demand, they will remotely switch on stuff until demand causes the prices for electricity to reach the highest level the market will bare. If they can control your heater or cooler they will crank it up to eleven during a demand-troth. If they can they will switch on the heater and the AC at the same time so you don't notice a temperature difference, but if you only have a heater they will settle for turning your home into a sauna. Profit comes before your comfort, what are you going to do not use electricity ?

If you are a friend you will agree that the temperature setting in my house is for me, not for profits, and blame the capitalists who fail to upgrade capacity for power-blackouts.

But lets say we overthrow capitalism, and replace it with a sane economic system where end users can capture the value add, would it be reasonable to do this ? I think the answer to this is still no. We build all the technological infrastructure so we can remove our self from the unpleasant aspects of our environment. And this is reintroducing environmental factors back into the system whose primary purpose is to remove them. Houses are for people, they can be used as a thermal battery, but maybe they shouldn't. We could add dedicated thermal batteries to houses so people don't have to live inside the battery. That way optimizations just can't contradict anybodies comfort, by design.
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Who gets the wall after the revolution? Seems like an important topic that crops up from time to time, might as well have a serious discussion on the matter.
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Baudrillard critique of Marxism

Baudrillard is one of the few who was able to critique Marxism from a resonable and not cucked perspective.
Especially in The Mirror of Production his criticisms are from the prespective of some one knowledgeable of Marx.
Now that the dust has settled was he right nearly about everything?
I mean look at China
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On the Japanese and their crimes

The Japanese army killed around 200,000 people in the course of 1 month during the Nanjing Massacre (this is a commonly accepted figure among historians. The massacre occured at the beginning of 1938. If they had kept this up in the territory they occupied until, let's say, 1944, then they would have killed around 12 million people disregarding deaths of combatants. The nature of the crimes committed during the Rape of Nanjing were also much more severe than any of the other war crimes and atrocities committed during WWII (yes, even the holocaust). So why were the nips never held accountable for their war crimes? Was it solely because the US needed a bulwark against Communism in East Asia? Part of me feels sympathy for and indigence over those killed during the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but another part of me thinks that the US and the USSR should have reduced the islands of Japan to nuclear craters, or at least every single Japanese soldier should have been killed.So why were the nips never held accountable for their war crimes?
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Will this be in our history books?
Did this even mean anything or was it just a funny little thing that happened after a tweet one morning?

Personally I stayed awake to the early hours of the morning to watch it happen live and thought it was so cool seeing the first American president step foot into north Korea by himself and north Korean president meet him in a sign of rare diplomacy that just looked pure away from political bullshit
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My professor gave us this math lesson on white privilege.

Do you agree with her?
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The left, from left-liberals and social demcrats to the hard left (Marxists, Anarchists) have a pretty similar conception of "the elites" as the bourgeoisie, a marxist or at least vulgar-marxist definition: wealthy people and corporations that have disproportionate power over society.

What does the right mean by elites? It's actually difficult to pin down. The meaning is protean and the two groups actually don't agree on who the "elites" actually are.

Can anyone tell me what rightoids actually mean when they say the "elite"? because they don't seem to have it mean the same thing as the left
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On Coexistance and Soviet Policy in the time of the Second Inter-Imperialist war

The defeat of the Soviet's at the end of the Cold war requires we communists to analyze and deduce what alternative actions may have been taken to achieve a better course of history, one where there was no collapse of the socialist camp, and instead a complete victory over the capitalists. I want to focus this thread specifically on the Course of events of the Second world war, and the geopolitical and strategic decisions made by the USSR. Bonus points for avoiding muh great man theory.

I will start: I am convinced that a faction of the Soviet high command that was aware of the events at Tehran should have secretly tipped off the Germans about the DDay landings. They could frame nazi collaborators int the western militaries and send secret diplomatic cables to the Germans convincing them that the leak was from sympathisers in the Soviet military that wanted a Soviet exit from the war and non aggression pact to contain the west. The latter would likely be uncovered at the latest by the end of the war so they would have to frame the West for this as well.

Why do this all? The Soviets had largely defeated the nazi menace on their own in the East and the western front was an attempt by the "allies" to swoop in like a gizzard and eat as much of the collapsing German empire as possible in order to deny it to Germany. Instead Germany would move divisions west fortify the defenses, they are prepared. The allied forces land and are massacred. Almost instantly over a hundred thousand of soldiers lay dead on the beaches, and in shallow waterborne graves, none had managed to make it far past the waterline. The west is shocked, the Army and the civilians are flooded with images of dead troops and the complete defeat of the western advance that had been planned for years. This plan the fools of the west made behind their nations back has sent their young men to the butchers. The west is made to learn the true cost of war. The people are thrown into a rage and the western imperialists geopolitical and strategic power is crippled. The Germans celebrate this small victory and try and gain some concessions from Moscow, however seeing as they are now truly fighting alone, and yet rapidly pouring into the German interior, they will not accept anything other than total and complete victory. They reach Berlin and the German army falls into complete chaos. Much of the Nazi and puppet administration has abandoned their posts and only the most fanatical or desperate of Nazi belligerents fight on in isolated pockets, The Soviets are left to mop up and denazify the rest of occupied Europe and the Red Star hangs high as the masses world over look towards the new world order and the saviours of the human race
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Nestor Makhno died on this day (July 25th) 87 years ago. Say something nice about him.
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My disliking for china isnt fueled by my disliking for socialism

The birth of liberal capitalism was driven out of a need to separate away from feudalistic society where empires were in perpetual war with each other and society was split between the masses that were exploited to create material wealth to fund elites and foreign wars, people saw what kind of a world that was and wanted out of it, a world where they could live their lives the way they wanted to and build whatever they desired and hence capitalism and libertarian ethics would be a ground base for the united states, it wasnt perfect but the country became more and more progressive and more and more liberal as time passed compared to the rest of the planet and likewise that progressiveness eventually spread to the rest of earth. What china is doing today is repeating the same mistakes of the USSR, empire building. Peoples rights are getting trampled on, most chinese citizens live on 10-15 dollars a DAY that's less than several african countries and china has made repeated offenses that have been disastrous worldwide including their worst offence of manufacturing a covid virus that would go on to lead to millions of deaths worldwide, trillions of damage to financial and material assets, billions of lives ruined driven by unemployment and the mass closure of large and small buissnesses, I wish it was the only offence but when they invaded vietnam, threatened to nuke china and then went on to commit Tiananmen square an event that only the most brainwashed pro china shills can honestly defend it's hard to state that they're better than their western counterparts. China currently is expanding its nuclear base due to security problems it faced after mass lockdowns leading to an immediate shitstorm of hate directed at it and the CCP would go on to use nationalism and defence spending as a way to counter that criticism, likewise this increasing arms race is pushing the planet closer and closer to another cold war where socialist expansion in the form of propaganda and direct invasion is resurging again, we only barely escaped nuclear fallout due to repeated luck on both sides to prevent nukes from being launched from false alarms. I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHOSE IN THE RIGHT OR IF SOCIALISM OR CAPITALISM ARE BEGGER, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE should have to live in a situation like this and the blatant displays of fanaticism towards pushing socialism and pro chinese expansionism is so strong and invasive that it's becoming a global security threat once again. China needs to seriously check how its perceived and should vow to improve because if it keeps going the way it's going the planet may either legitimately end or get severely damaged
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Post especially cool websites. Not necessarily sites with cool content.

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/ - Website runs on solar power in Barcelona, optimized for low energy use. Has some good articles and a nice 'about' page.
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Public API

Please create a public API so that people can write/use their own non browser clients for leftypol. thanks
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Do bourgeois revolutions actually exist? What is their function?
If they're driven by the bourgeoisie, they're redundant. The bourgeoisie had been growing on their own terms, self-reproducing, without any revolution required. The revolution wouldn't free anything but would be an expression of an already completed change.
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Leftist Tea-Party

So anons I was thinkin that what the left needs is a movement similar to the right's tea party movement.

The tea party was the predecessor to Trump's platform, where libertarians and progressive republicans were all funneled into fascism. It was the perfect republican revivalism that created the conditions for Donald Trump to win. So if we want our own Donald Trump to win, say Bernie Sanders or someone else, we can't simply expect to win. We HAVE to create a platform to facilitate it.

A lot of you may say that the DSA is the fringe tea party of the left and the left has already seen a fringe change.
If that's true, I think we need another one. Something that can funnel liberals and socialists into a new ideological platform. What could that be?

Anons post your thoughts
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Is Wikipedia a good resource for leftist theories?

I'm a newcomer when it comes to leftism, and I love Wikipedia at the same time. I can't bear reading articles on Marx like those on Marxists.org, nor books on Marxism. What I liked are news articles and Wikipedia, a remnant of the now-defunct independent self.

My question to you guys is, is Wikipedia a good source for leftism-related topics?

Opinions, discussions, resources, recommendations welcome.
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How bad is Spotify?

It's a bourgeoise vice, but I really like it. I hate having to search all over the web to pirate albums, organize those albums in my desktop, and transfer transfer both to my phone and laptop from my desktop. Spotify just makes the process so much easier. I can listen from any device I want. I want to add some songs to my playlist? I search it up and add it in a matter of seconds. I want to share music? I copy a link and send it over in seconds. Spotify has 99% of the music I listen to and I don't even listen to mainstream stuff.

Should I really make the effort to switch back to pirating? Should I stop prioritizing comfort over data security? What does /tech/ think?
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News 7/28/21

Mexico president: Sending fuel cargo for Cuba is their sovereign decision
Mexico’s president asserted his country’s right to send fuel to Cuba and said on Tuesday that U.S. sanctions on the island were “inhumane,” after a diesel cargo shipped by Mexico’s state-run oil company Petroleos Mexicanos arrived in Cuba’s Havana port.

Julian Assange stripped of citizenship by Ecuador
Ecuador has revoked the citizenship of Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks who is currently in a British prison. Ecuador’s justice system formally notified the Australian of the nullity of his naturalisation in a letter that came in response to a claim filed by the South American country’s foreign ministry.

Chile seeks to establish access to water as a right
The proposal seeks to establish the essential right to water, give legal security to the exercise of the human right of access to drinking water and sanitation, and reaffirm the nature of public use of water. Likewise, one of its goals is to establish new regulations for the concession, use and suspension of water use rights and to provide protection for its preservation in land ecosystems.

Kurds protest in front of US consulate in Berlin against Turkish invasion
The activists who protested the invasion attacks of the Turkish state against Zap, Avaşin and Metina regions carried banners that read “America, do not be a part of the occupation”, “No pasaran for Dictator Erdogan, time has come for Öcalan’s Freedom!” and “Stand up together against fascism and occupation, defend Kurdistan together”.

Israel reportedly develops new ‘Ghost’ unit for war on Hezbollah
According to a report on the Walla news site, the new unit — codenamed “Ghosts” — is made up of soldiers recruited from other elite units in the armed forces. It was originally established in 2019 and was developed for “secret capabilities,” the report said.

Israel launches maximum pressure campaign against Ben & Jerry's
The Israeli government has formed a special task force to pressure Ben & Jerry's ice cream and its parent company Unilever to reverse their decision to boycott Israeli settlements in the West Bank, Israeli officials tell me. The Israeli government is concerned the move by Ben & Jerry's will encourage other international companies to take similar steps to differentiate between Israel and the West Bank settlements.

Steel unions celebrate nationalisation of Sheffield Forgemasters
STEEL unions are celebrating after the government stepped in today to nationalise key manufacturer Sheffield Forgemasters. The firm will be bought by the Ministry of Defence in a peppercorn deal worth £2.56 million. Taxpayers will also take responsibility for any debts and invest £400m in the company’s future.

French data regulator hits Monsanto with $472,000 fine for illegally compiling watch list to secure support during weed killer row
The French list of more than 200 people gave each individual a rating of one to five, marking influence, credibility and their level of support for the agricultural firm, specifically its pesticide and crop modification practices. Siding with the plaintiffs, the CNIL fined Monsanto €400,000 over its data collection system and failure to provide individuals with the right to request their data be removed or not collected.

Mozambique: fears of escalating conflict as foreign troops clash with Islamists
The Rwandan troops are the first significant foreign deployment in a direct combat role in the conflict. Russian and South African military contractors have previously fought insurgents alongside local security forces, and there have been unconfirmed reports of one possible clash involving western special forces earlier this year.

Kim Jong-un says Covid-19 situation in North Korea ‘no less challenging’ than Korean War
“We are faced with difficulties and hardship caused by the unprecedented global health crisis and prolonged lockdown no less challenging than how it was during the war,” Kim told thousands of veterans and guests from a tribune erected at the foot of the Monument to the Victorious Fatherland Liberation War in the capital Pyongyang on Tuesday.
R: 169 / I: 58

Film Thread

Alright filmfags, show me what you've got.

&ltS Tier - Timeless
>Tarkovsky: Stalker, Andrei Rublev, Solaris
>Klimov: Come and See
>Bela Tarr: Turin Horse, Werckmeister Harmonies, Satantango (all very demanding)
>Bergman: Persona, Seventh Seal
>Herzog: Aguirre (I love them all but this one stands apart)
>Kubrick: 2001

&ltA Tier - Food for the soul
>Visconti: The Leopard, Rocco and his Brothers
>Fellini: La Dolce Vita, Amarcord
>De Sica: Bicycle Thieves, Umberto D.
>Pontecorvo: Battle of Algiers
>Cocteau: Orpheus, Blood of a Poet
>Godard: Breathless, Band of Outsiders, The Little Soldier
>Kurosawa: Yojimbo, Throne of Blood, Ran
>Mizoguchi: Sansho, Ugetsu
>Kobayashi: Seppuku, Human Condition
>Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse, Metropolis, M
>Bunuel: Discreet Charm, Simon of the Desert, The Exterminating Angel
>Kieslowski: Dekalog
>David Lynch: Anything, including Twin Peaks old and new.
>Ki-duk Kim: Spring, Summer…
>Gilliam: Brazil
>Kubrick (pt. 2): The Shining, Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, FMJ

&ltA- Tier - Entertainment
>Cronenberg: Naked Lunch, Dead Ringers
>Billy Wilder: One, Two, Three, Sunset Blvd, Witness for the Prosecution
>Becker: Le Trou, Touchez pas au Grisbi
>Melville: Army of Shadows, Le Cercle Rouge, Bob le Flambeur
>Clouzot: Diabolique, Wages of Fear (the ultimate languagefag film)
>Bresson: A Man Escaped, Pickpocket
>Renoir: The Grand Illusion, Rules of the Game
>Ferrara: Bad Lieutenant, King of NY
>Jodorowsky: The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre
>Peckinpah: Straw Dogs, Alfredo Garcia
>Woody Allen: Annie Hall. All the other old-and-good ones too.
>Carpenter: The Thing, They Live
>Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs
>Scorsese: Kind of Comedy, Taxi Driver. The rest can kinda fuck off.
>Hitchcock: Pretty much all of them.

Let's talk about movies, then. Don't have to be lefty films but obviously recommendations on that front are also welcome.
R: 12 / I: 2

Brand New Animal

Well that was bad. Wasted potential as it's usual with many shows.

Most baffling parts were the deuteragonist working the big rich mafia guy that pits the poor to kill each other as a sport among other things and the "if you kill him you'll be as bad as him" at the end. Then there's the convenient powers the main couple exhibit to solve the big issue at the end.

Trigger hasn't been good since it was called Gainax, huh.
R: 84 / I: 12
What is the theoretical basis for hating fascism more than liberal capitalism? I mean all the really matters is the material conditions not the bullshit in peoples heads so why are we so concerned with whether fascism or liberalism is in power.

To be clear I'm not a fascist but I'm just confused with why tf almost all socialist agitation and talk seems to be about beating a dead ideology? Are we just scrapping it out for second place?
R: 40 / I: 8
Here's a cool and interesting character-
Does anyone else find this extremely obnoxious? Yeah she's got big boobs, that's nice and all, but can we take a moment to appreciate her without reducing her to her cleavage? It feels like a spit in the face when there's a female character I enjoy and all anyone can say about her is her cleavage.

On a related note, when there's a comfy series and all the motherfuckers do is talk about how they want to fuck X. I want to comfypost, not hornypost god damn it.
R: 655 / I: 72 (sticky) (full)

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