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/ukraine/ - Russia-Ukraine war general #170: Israel Is My New Best Friend Edition

REMEMBER: Still care about this conflict? Ukraine is so 2022. Everyone is now interested in the Israel general threads these days instead


Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine



Developments of multipolarity timeline
https://www.pacemaker.global/multipolar-transition-timeline (Note: Dead link. Update with new link, por favor.)

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy

📺 America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute

📺 Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada

📺 The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime

<Current Happenings

📺 Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary


Social media



Thread guidelines:
• Please remember to add a spoiler to NSFW and extreme content such as graphic violence and gore.
• Try your best to not derail discussion too much from the main events and relevant places where the war is taken place, as well as other happenings, groups and public figures related to it.
• Meta discussion of the historical, philosophical and ideological background of the war is fine as long as its done in good faith and comradely.
• In the event the meta discussion overstays its welcome, participating users will be referred to take the conversation to the MULTIPOLARISM general thread: >>>/leftypol/1590991
• Quality shitposting and original content is encouraged! Spamming glowie memes is low effort.
• Remember to take your meds! It helps mediate schizoposting and foot fetishism
• this is /isg/ for people who treat geopolitics like shitty map games
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/isg/ - Internet Spectacle General

A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's hyper-normalization of petty internet drama.
Make sure to check and consider to read the reading list!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!


>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEww2oeqWuoI3wL-PyJmo2Vbv

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwynPKHnsxfdpM7jq68JN8vL

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxFYWxXQ3mhdPFAqzaC5d2z

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxr7D9HUhMnbam2Yh9rxPin

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DBF3E860993373223D72E98FADF0F2DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEww4BP9g03lhoAL79zf_qZMX

<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwyWgXldbUfHRU2C7G_pnmfh

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=054E022C8BD24EE2C5595B575BCED7DC
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwyYw_qleRMbG_ButG5cXLSe

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwzT37X6qTM9aprSsZwfIVGB

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5BD20E0E22FC8BC2CB4F8A7760D57027
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwwpfwZshVw631SUuXI0T5tw

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwxwyxbQE4oQ_zFAOm00VlBy

>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwy0syEzQU81XRAeHtHZBCQ1



>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon

<On Neo-Liberalism and Post-Fordism

[Work in progress]


The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek

HyperNormalisation (2006) by Adam Curtis

The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek

<Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy


I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
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Just reading over this 1954 political economy textbook written by 1950s Stalinists. Absolutely hilarious to read them talking about profit, private property, commodity circulation, the law of value, wages, etc. Just to then add the prefix "socialist". It's filled with retarded garbage, it was commissioned by Stalin himself and he went around giving interviews to various economists on how it should be written, though he died before it was finalized. These talks that he gave that led to the creation of that textbook can be read here, they're hilarious at points and extremely revealing.
As to who they dug this up they were probably recorded in Soviet circles but the group that translated them from Russian are a bunch of Indian Hoxhaists who published them without realizing how retarded they make Stalin and his cronies look.
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>Without Soviet deliveries of these four major items, Germany could barely have attacked the Soviet Union, let alone come close to victory, even with more intense rationing.
USSRbros…did we fuck up?
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rightoids always suck off the police because they believe the police prevent crime, and leftoids argue against this using a bunch of metrics and statistics showing that cops don't prevent crime and are in fact just the protectors of the wealthy. But this conclusion can be arrived at entirely through reason alone, without even needing a bunch of boring long term studies. one need only ask oneself a series of questions:

>what would happen if everyone stopped committing crimes? would the state disband the police?

<No! You can't just fire thousands of armed and dangerous people just because they aren't needed anymore. They will fuck your shit up. They're here to collect a check, whether they do real work or just engage in rent seeking thuggery.
>if society stopped committing crime and the state did somehow "disband the police" how would police respond?
<by throwing a shit fit, becoming violent criminals, and basically creating the demand for the police to return through their own violent actions, creating a paradox. if crime disappears, the police become the criminals, meaning crime cannot disappear.
>if the police would not disband if everyone stopped committing crimes, because they are in fact a group of armed people who are monopolizing violence, then can it really be said their job is to prevent crime?
<No. because if crime disappeared they would stick around, inducing the demand for their services by sowing chaos.
>If the police cannot be said to be stopping crime, then what is their real job?
<their real job must be the protection of the ruing class propagandists who claim that the police are stopping crime.
>who are the ruling class propagandists who claim that the police are stopping crime?
<the property owners.
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🗽United States Politics🦅

Absolute State of America Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth.


State mandated propaganda livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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Post music to cry to.
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Why did propaganda of the deed fail?

In theory it doesnt sound bad. Threat the elite with possible death at any moment to further the revolutionary cause. Make them pay a price for their evil actions. Yet it seems to have failed, or it was not done properly.

Take for example the recent Palestine protests. Protesters even went to the home of politicians and weapon manufacturers. Yet nothing changed. The missing ingredient was bullets through their windows. Surely there will be a reaction. Police dissolves protest? Take 1 police with you. Let them understand that a price must be paid everytime we retreat.

What you think?
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News 2/23/24

Germany: Berlin schools asked to distribute leaflet describing the 1948 Nakba as a 'myth'
Germany's leading Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the opposition Christian Democratic Party (CDU) have ordered high schools in Berlin's borough of Neukolln to distribute brochures titled The Myth of Israel #1948. … "Myth #5: Israel is to blame for the Nakba", includes a text by researcher Shany Mor titled "the UN is distorting the meaning of the Nakba: its view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is extremely one-sided".

Palestinian Authority says Israeli post-war Gaza plan ‘destined to fail’
“If the world wants security and stability in the region, it must end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and recognise the independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital,” Nabil Abu Rudeineh, the spokesperson for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, was quoted as saying on Friday by the Palestinian state news agency Wafa.

Israel plans to build 3,300 new settlement homes. It says it’s a response to a Palestinian attack
He said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant participated in the discussion. The decision will put in motion approval processes for 300 new homes in the Kedar settlement and 2,350 in Maale Adumim. It will also advance previously approved construction of nearly 700 homes in Efrat.

Egypt: Rights group director faces ‘smear campaign’ after breaking story on Sinai buffer zone
An Egyptian military source told Middle East Eye last week that the construction of a wall south of Rafah is "to create a centralised area to limit infiltration of militants into Sinai and prepare for the worst." The source noted that such a scheme is not new, as the area had already been declared a buffer zone following Egypt's 2014 war against militant groups in north Sinai.

New York lawyer group denounces massacre of migrants in Mexican state of Sonora
The state’s attorney general has only recognized three deaths, including a four-year-old child, after an attack by an armed group. A witness told 1800Migrante that up to 50 people were traveling in three vehicles that were attacked

Wildfires in the Brazilian Amazon Put Yanomami Families at Risk
Compared to the same period last year, such figure implies that the number of fires has increased 12 times. In the last 24 hours, 464 fires remain active in Roraima.The number of fires for February's first three weeks represents a significant escalation compared to December when only 237 fires were recorded. The ongoing fires have even blanketed Roraima's capital city Boa Vista in smoke.

Translink strike to go ahead in Northern Ireland
TRANSPORT unions in Northern Ireland are set to go ahead with a 72-hour strike from February 27, after rejecting the latest “lowball offer” from Translink, unions said today. Thousands of bus and rail members of GMB, Unite and Siptu will walk out after talks broke down with Translink on Thursday afternoon.

Murder of Kerala CPI(M) leader: Suspect taken into police custody at Koyilandy
The police on February 23 (Friday) took into custody a Koyilandy native suspected of murdering Communist Party of India (Marxist) [CPI(M)] leader P.V. Sathyanathan, 62, during a temple festival at Peruvattur in Kozhikode district of Kerala on Thursday night.

India calls for early release of nationals working for Russian army
The statement from the Indian foreign ministry came after the Hindu newspaper reported that around 100 Indians had been recruited in the past year under contracts lasting at least a year. Nationals of many countries have sought work with the Russian army, including from India's neighbour Nepal.

Central Agencies Being Used to ‘Extort’ Corporate Donations for BJP, Alleges Congress
Recently an investigative report by News Minute and NewsLaundry had found at least 30 companies, which had faced action by Central agencies, donated Rs 335 crore to BJP in the past five years. The report collated the figures from data already available in the public domain.

Indonesia and Australia hold defense talks as both nations move toward signing a security agreement
Subianto said that Indonesia and Australia hope to sign a “very significant” defense cooperation agreement within two or three months. No details about the agreement have been provided.
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What you are looking at is ai generated video created using a text-to-video model. What are the far reaching societal implications of this? Think about it with technology you see here anything you see on the internet or without you being direct there can be faked. Meaning you would have people doubt any media. Would this be an equalizer making the means of production into the hands of the masses rather than that of bourgeois a step towards a communist society. Any great technology invention has revolution society and changed the under lying social relationships. Such as the steam engine, the printing press, internet ect.
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Kayfabe Theory

I never followed wrestling, because it was obviously fake and gay.
Little did I know, it was the model of the modern world.

Don’t get me wrong, I knew the system was compromised by lobbyists, the military industrial complex and the corporate media was in the business of manufacturing consent. But I still believed if we just voted for a benevolent ruler, we could change everything.
I remember pulling the lever for Obama filled with hope ™️. I genuinely believed he would change ™️ the world.
After it became evident that he was a race swap of George W Bush, I lost all Hope ™️ for our democratic institutions.
Once it became apparent that a literal WWE villain was going to be the GOP nominee and a bunch of dorks in costumes started wrestling in the streets, did I begin to make the connection between politics and professional wrestling. But I couldn’t quite put the pieces together.

Then I ran across this video series about Kayfabe theory. And the puzzle really fit together.
A professional wrestler even exposed that Ted Turner applied the ‘cheap heat’ model to CNN.
For anyone lacking the time or interest to watch all this crap, I don’t blame you, so I’ll summarize it for you.
It’s cheap, safe and easy to manufacture shallow drama, to entertain the troglodytes.
The real world is boring, expensive and dangerous to deal with.
So why take risks when you can project a fantasy?
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What are your thoughts on outlawing western capitalist goods, services, companies, etc like with the iron curtain back in the Soviet days? Do you think we should bring it back? How strict should it be?
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Right-wing games?

I'll start:

Every CD Projekt Red game (Pole company, the most reactionary, racist country on Earth, will always put chinlet propaganda in their games, such as that caricature queer guy in Cyberpunk who's a rapist and smuggler), every TES game (lore is basically about humans, the white ppl of the setting, genociding elves and others and being portraited as good guys, Skyrim is the worst offender), every Paradox game (literal map painters made for chinlets to larp as crusaders, nazis, conquistadors and others who killed BIPOC worldwide)
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Can we get a mega-debunk thread for “race realism”

I’ve been exposed to way too much of this shit again lately on 4chan and I want to start a thread where we can start debunking common “race realist” talking points on things like intelligence, crime, athletic performance, or whatever.
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Fashion thread: the fourth

Post what you're wearing today, pieces you want to wear, recent cops, thrifting, inspo, concepts, runways, designers, questions, etc.

Previous thread: >>29827
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Laserschizo arrested for double homicide

Goodnight sweet prince
I will miss him
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IMT Sweden founds Revolutionary Communist Party


>We form the party in opposition to the policies of the leadership of the entire Swedish labour movement.

>It is the Social Democrats who have been in government for most of the attacks of the last 30 years. Their policies are becoming increasingly indistinguishable from those of the right.
>The Left Party leadership has followed the Social Democrats to the right, in search of government posts and respect from bourgeois public opinion.

>Many people dream of going back to the large-scale improvements for workers of the post-war period, but this was an exception in the history of capitalism that will not be repeated. In fact, it is precisely the illusions of that period that underlie the state of the labour movement today.

>Whole generations of activists were educated in the idea of class collaboration – peaceful cooperation with the bourgeoisie, on the basis of ever-expanding capitalism. Socialism was postponed indefinitely: staying within the limits of what the bourgeoisie could tolerate. Since the boom turned into a crisis for capitalism, this has meant accepting, step by step, and in many cases implementing, the atacks of the bourgeoisie.

>At the same time, trade union leaders have come to see preserving the stability of capitalism as their main task. The message to workers is always the same: it doesn't pay to fight.

>The truth is that the previous period left its mark on the entire Swedish left. It is enough to open any issue of supposedly communist papers like Proletären, Internationalen or Offensiv to see the total lack of propaganda for the need for revolution and communism. They promote the only thing they think workers understand: struggle for minor improvements within the framework of capitalism. The ideas of communism are relegated (at best) to programmatic documents and study circles.

>The whole history of capitalism shows that the working class cannot take power without a revolutionary party on the basis of scientific socialism – Marxism. The immediate task of the Revolutionary Communist Party can therefore be summed up simply: to organise and train those who have already begun to draw communist conclusions today, in order to win those who will do so tomorrow.

>The possibilities are seen not least in the work of our communist international over the past year. Using a simple slogan – "Are you a communist? Get organised!" – we have rapidly doubled our forces in one country after another. In Sweden, we have grown by 50 percent since the summer alone.

>Now we are taking the next step: in countries like Britain and Canada, preparations are in full swing to form revolutionary communist parties. We are raising the banner of communism so high that every communist will see it. Together we are laying the foundations for rebuilding a genuine revolutionary communist international, the world party of socialist revolution.
>What we are undertaking is nothing less than the building of a party ready for its historic task: to lead the struggle of the working class to communism.

>We ask you directly: Are you a communist? You are not alone! Help us build the RKP and gather the new generation of communists under the banner of Marxism. Never has there been a more important task.
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Please dump all your guerilla warfare/ resistance/weapon manuals/psyop tactics PDFs you have. Im finally making a collection. If therers already a collection somewhere on the site point me to it. It can be CIA stay behind shit, homemade weapons shiut, vietnam shit,guerilla warfare from brazil whatever is practically useful and can be printed and disseminated among people in a revolutionary situation. things that give you some rudimentary education
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/QTDDTOT/ - Questions that don't need their own thread

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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Any imageboards for Anarchism? Nihilism?

See title
Leftypol sucks. Leftypol is a Leninist trap that wants to subvert Anarchists to ML and its variants.
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How do you deal with the constant attacks on one's ego

To be a leftist is to be an object of scorn, to be turned into a soyjak, to be hated by all. How does one deal with being a leftist? No matter how much you lift you will be depicted as a weakly, no matter how strong you get you will never be respected for it. Yet utter cretins will be given a pass just because they are performative edgy. You can prove the far-right is backed by Israel, but they don't give a shit. It's all about being seen as more masculine. Facts and logic have nothing to do with it. IT's just so fucking baffling and retard and this isn't even the blackest reaction yet. You cant' even get twinks to have fuck with you anymore because the zoomers are on that hitlercore bullshit.
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Right Wing music

post conservative and rightoid music of any genre.
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on reddit atheism

I hate religion and believe it should be prohibited, although it should still be preserved for historical purposes. However, we have encountered what is termed as "Reddit atheism," a type of atheism that is so off-putting that it makes you hesitant to even identify as an atheist. It embodies a sort of delusion of the South Park fan, where individuals with objectively mediocre intelligence believe they are superior to large segments of the population simply because they do not believe in God (or anything else, for that matter). Many on the political left are also coming to this realization. It has become increasingly difficult to disagree with a religious person without receiving a condescending "you dropped your fedora" remark and having others rally behind them. Even Stalin recognized the significance of faith and religion, and what it meant for the people
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The Atlanticists will destroy the UN

Saying it now
Atlanticist scum, either under the auspices of the rising Climate Behemoth Vanguard of extinction neofascists taking over the West or the unholy alliance between Liberal Imperialism and Zionist Settlerism; are increasingly moving towards extreme belligerence at the UN; from B*rlin passing out deranged propaganda about how the Nakba is a lie crafted by the UN, to Trump's anti-UN stances, Biden taking a stance against the UN to bolster Isr*el; yea, the West is aiming to destroy the UN because the Global South has figured out it is at least an effective means to coordinate and engage each other diplomatically against the West, hence why one of the China led factions is literally called Group of Friends in Defense of the UN Charter
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Political Psychology Test

Hop aboard the datamining-victim train and post your results, retards
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LA’s “graffiti skyscraper” is an anti-Chinese psy op.

You all saw this on the news, multiple lumpen graffiti “artists” sneaking into a reportedly abandoned condo building in downtown LA and “tagging” up each floor. What the media isn’t reporting on is his those buildings are all owned by a Chinese investment company. The media is spinning the narrative of graffiti vandals “taking back the city” by ruining perfectly good buildings because they want to demonize China and portray China as “taking over” American cities. In reality China only invests in American property because they seek to lift Americans out of poverty and bring them the gift of socialist abundance. Don’t fall for the media lies.

And compare graffiti “art” to the art of actually existing socialist states. Children in China don’t learn to ruin buildings by spray painting tacky colours. They learn how to make socialist realism which employs universal standards of beauty. Graffiti is Malthusian and satanic and I wouldn’t be surprised if these “taggers” in LA are CIA connected somehow.
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Is there a Leftypol Telegram channel

Yo, is there a Leftypol Telegram channel? It would be fun to collect the latest revolutionary shitposts there and also waste hours of time discussing with other revolutionary autistics

You can also tell me if this is an idiotic idea in terms of data security or whatever, but let me know if there is already a Leftypol Telegram chat or if one should/can be created
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Am I still a leftist if I agree with Proudhon on a lot of things like property, including his take on feminism?

I mainly disagree with him on his position on political methods, I agree with Marx that shit was naive and never could have worked. But property as theft is golden. I don't want property to lose its class character and pay land rent to the state, I want to abolish both.

I noticed none of the anarchist subreddits ever seem to mention Proudhon even though he is basically the father of anarchism. Did they cancel him for being too much of a chinlet?
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Why are conservative "intellectuals" so anti progress anyways?

Do they think that the human condition as it is isn't a disaster that needs to change and needs to change fast? do they not see how problematic our current cultures are? are they fine with human trafficking? child abuse? crapitalism? for how long? forever? till the sun engulfs the earth? how are they not seen as the mad ones?
I can never see conservatives as anything but the gatekeepers of the hell that is the current human condition.
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Communist gotta get our shit together fr

Let's face it folks, you can only cope with the Red Scare and propaganda keeping you out from influence for so long, it can excuse not holding the reigns of power, it can even excuse not having a mass movement, it cannot excuse having damn near 0 popularity at all and only social democracy being remotely compelling to people

Looking at how tiny and insular parties are, how basically fucking dead most communist chats and forums are (even leftypol is mostly dead) its fair to say that part of the issue is not only that communism has become a subculture, but it's not even a likable subculture for most of the people within it.

If we look at the problems with the people in the subculture it's fairly obvious, and many fellow travelers I know irl tell me exactly why they don't give a damn about interacting with communists.

1. Communists are generally extremely conceited; most commies treat people like morons, this extends to how we generally treat each other in fact, most communists even talk down to other communists
2. Leftist culture centers around critique and polemics at this point, i.e. negativity, it essentially feeds into an internal culture where it seems like communists essentially scorn fun, hence communist subculture cannot even said to be fun
3. Communists generally cannot handle disagreement, they claim it's no big deal, they definitely can, and encourage it, but not at all, its literally a meme in the left that parties will split apart over things ranging from minor disagreements to personality feuds; in the realm of real world politics this takes on the appearance of slaughters of other factions and even wars between MLs
4. Communists cannot take criticism; this is one of the greatest weaknesses of them all, MLs to anarchists will claim they encourage criticism but nothing could be further from the truth, the response communists have to criticism is generally self-righteous indignation and rejection of said criticism, it doesn't matter if it comes from another communist or a liberal, it is emphatically rejected, the communist as much as the liberal; you know it's fucked when you can only abide critique from someone who thinks exactly like you

TL;DR: Communists are way too self-righteous, abrasive, conceited, and fuckin boring
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Claudia de la Cruz

Since presidential elections are coming up, what‘s your guys‘ opinion on the socialist candidate de la Cruz? I guess the predictable answer is going to be that any non-establishment candidate is effectively impossible to succeed, but what do you think of her and her running mate as socialists?

That‘s their website
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Was posting in a seperate thread, but I'd thought I should make a new thread on this.

In this thread: >>29952

After there was a fight about porn being on /siberia/ – personally think it should be hidden behind a flair/toggle, (if I wasn't struggle on the job search, I'd contribute and add that feature (if allowed) – there was then an argument on if the bulbasour images were pedophilia.

The argument basically went, as always:
>X is pedophilia
<*Insert 3-7 similar replies* it's not
>*Smugly* you guys are actually wrong.
Whenever this topic is brought up, it goes like this or something similar, and it completely derails the threads.

I understand this is abit of a slippery slope, but I think we should put bans for people who argue that those drawings are cp.
Bans for like a few hours or a day or something.
A ban for troll like behavior, and by extention: those who feed the troll are also given a slap on the wrist.

I'm not asking for loli images to be allowed.
Such a topic can't even be appproached since how we talk about it is awful.
For instance, it shouldn't be called "cp"/"cartoon cp" when it has no connection to child sexual assult, unlike phyiscal cp.
If anything on that, we need a new term for "cartoon cp", to make it easier to talk about.

My issue is taking the analysis of the "cartoon cp", and arguing that something unrelated is "cartoon cp", because it """looks""" like a human child.
While sure I'm fine with people having moderatly bad takes – these people poison the discussion in every way:
>As the already mention lack of sexual assult, equivalating "cartoon cp" with actual cp, leads people to give tips to anti child abuse agencies on this stuff, which has halted their ability to fight against pedophilia.
<They've been on record to stop telling them about this stuff because of how much of a waste of time it is.
<These posters are literally defending pedophilia by calling it cp.
>This thinking that X has to be cartoon cp, which is just them wanting to see it as cartoon cp so they can be right, infantizes people to them.
<Img rel, for example, was a character used in a thread months ago, where people claim that it was a child because it "looks" like one.
<The idea of a short woman with small breasts and makeup, does not cross their mind – and such behavior it worsened by just further expanding to just having one of those qualities as pedophilic.
>It's because of that infantizing, it leads to people slandering bisexuals as pedophiles because they like twinks. Because a guy with smooth skin or makeup = child.
<Which, unsurpring, that we then see the slander trend of calling lgbt members "groomers", and by extention, "pedophiles".
<What those posters are doing it literally supporting/defending anti-lgbt movements.
>On the rebecaa thread example, the only other argument given is that: "The authors said so Some people who worked on it think it looked like a child."
<Instead of approaching art as something that, while you can learn about the author to get a another perspective, it's still divorced from the author, and you're free to interpret it regardless of their want.
<They're defending copy right to the extention that you can't even be free to see something without the authors consent

That last point is also a fuel of the derailing.
>The author said it's a child, so ergo it's a child, the author is alive and we must serve them!
but then it's:
<The author didn't say a child, but it looks like a child, so ergo it's a child, the author has always been dead!
It can only be one or the other.
If they actually cared about fighting against pedophilia, they wouldn't resort to debate-bro techniques of lieing constantly so they can win points.

These posters can only be summarized as: like Chris Hansen; not an ally, but a road block.

But hey, if the majority of the community disagrees, feel free to label the post as cringe, (using a ban message to make it easier to check on).

Also: alot the stuff mentioned about, like the rebecca thread, is old shit that I originally was going to make this post about, and many of the type of posters who comment on this probably have left.
But the topic never got properly moved past, and I figured making this thread will allow a proper step towards moving past this.

Grammer errors are because when I set up my computer, I choose "Brazil" as my location sicne I wanted a timezone ahead, and I've been too lazy to change the actual setting that makes my system use english as the default language, and by extention chromeium spell checks those errors.
I have work in a few minues, so I won't be looking at this until either tonight, or tomorrow night when I'm off work again.
Anything that requires a source, (except the rebecca thread I guess), I can go grab, though it's not hard to find. Like the "cartoon cp" having no relation to child sexual assult you can find the article easily if you look up the debate about it or cp on wikipedia.
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/Climate/ #3 Off the charts edition

This thread is dedicated to our accomplishment of having broken the upper limit of sea surface temperature and the lower limit of antarctic sea ice amount charts this summer, hence ushering our species firmly into the capitalocene. Good job guys! Welcome to the future.

Here's an article about that:

As for the news, there is a drought blocking shipping at the Panama canal, bad wildfires in North America and Greece, persistent heatwaves in eastern Europe and northern Africa, and floods in central and eastern China.

Here's the latest report from the IPCC
<AR6 Synthesis Report Climate Change 2023

The website of NASA about climate is great for getting data and visualizing climate change

Last thread: >>1332129
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Mangaka that are touted as leftists

Why do people constantly call the saga of Tanya Mangaka a communist? just stumbled upon the guy's feed and it's full of boomer takes, SDF shilling(this is the complete antithesis of the JCP), and anti-communist retweets.

On top of that, Riyoko Ikeda(The Rose of Versailles) who was a member of the Japanese communist party in her youth is now doing interviews with LDP and butt buddies with a senior member. The Riyoko one is far more shocking than the nazi anime girl
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/brg/ - Brazil General

Hamas Edition

>Member of Hamas Political Bureau, Basim Naim, congratulated freedom fighter, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, on his victory in Brazil’s election after defeating his rival, incumbent Jair Bolsonaro, in a fiercely contested run-off election.

>The Hamas official considered da Silva’s election a victory for all oppressed people around the globe, particularly the Palestinian people, as da Silva is known for his strong and continued support for the Palestinians at all international forums.
>Naim said that Hamas “looks forward to President Lula mitigating all the effects of the unlimited support for the Israeli Occupation State”.

Previous thread: >>1573925
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kaiju thread

who here enjoys a big lizard
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Disco Elysium(spoilers)

I just beat this game, I remember seeing another discussion thread about this game but I can't find it, but I want to talk about the game, full spoilers.
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Roosterteeth productions

what do you think about RWBY as an anime
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Shots of Beijing

So, let me point out that I’m scheduled to help kids practice English, and I’ve been looking for ways to discourage them from emigrating.

One of the interesting things I’ve discovered is that the ratio of average wages between China and the United States is only 3.6, with the average worker receiving 16575 or so USD per year. Factor in cost of living differences (PPP), and the ratio is only 2. Then consider that first tier cities in China often have a GDP per capita twice that of the national average, and guess what? You can live in China, work in China, and enjoy a material lifestyle that is 67-100% that of the United States, all the while touching, as others have asked me to, good, Socialist grass.

That is, of course, assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.

So, let me show off what Beijing is like. This, I think, is from the Wangfujing shopping district near Tiananmen.
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Petty bourgeois insecurity and fascism

Is the "middle-class" identity conducive to fascism? Despite Western political discourse being fixated what's supposedly best for the "middle-class" nobody in Western capitalist societies actually wants to be "middle-class," everyone wants to be rich. However being wealthy in relation to others requires an unequal distribution of assets by definition and the vast majority of people can't achieve that because the economic class structure is elitist and exclusionary by design. Despite bourgeois propaganda nobody believes their line that they deserve their gross amounts of wealth because they're the best of society. So because "middle-class" types want to be rich or famous like the bourgeois but can't they cope by reproducing the structure of the economic hierarchy in terms of identity instead, so that they can be the bourgeois in their racial / sexual / religious / etc. pyramid instead of facing (what they see as) the debasement of normal human mediocrity.
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There is no mental gymnastics in their conclusions, immigration tends to depress wages and outsourcing of jobs threatens their fragile security even further, especially in the industrial sector. Anyone will, reflexively, see that this lowers their living standards and assume it to be the ultimate cause of their suffering. The fact that this is a stupid conclusion does not mean that the ones thinking this are dumb fools, it's the natural result of social relations that present themselves in a mystifying manner, masking their essence.
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Palestine vs the zionist entity #70

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الله أكبر
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Eco-Anarchist Thread

A thread to discuss community organising whit the aim of protesting the current pollution of the environment
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Anybody else in the bunker enjoy cars and motorsport?

Discuss anything motoring related here.

To start I'll say I've spent the last few days doing the brakes on my own car, including new calipers. Fucking hard work on an old POS, nothing comes apart easily.
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How do I stat making a real impact on society? How can I work towards the establishment of a revolution? I live in aard left leaning state if that works of anything.
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Left-wing anarchist found guilty

so, whats the deal with this guy? does anyone know the backstory to this kid?
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Baldur's Gate 3 Thread

Is it any good? I haven't played it myself
Also do I have to play the previous games to understand what's going on?
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Is Dwarf Fortress the most Historical Materialist game of all time?

>Simulates thousands of years of history

>Simulates individual lives
>Simulates entire economies
>Simulates private property, families, cities, states
>does not privilege the player with any kind of protagonism. You are simply an entity in a larger civilization
>any entity can be wiped out at any given moment and replaced with a similar one.
>deep physics simluation that includes erosion, precipitation, and the formation of continents
>can instantaneously generate an entire encyclopedia of interconnected occurences spanning thousands of years
>simulates marriage, divorce, courtship, cheating, betrayal, coups, assassinations, persecutions, and purges
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Revisionism on the Soviet Question

Being able to contact the spiritual life on the other side of a different much-maligned Communist country, I have to ask for revisionist views of the failed Soviet Union.

What books, what texts, can I use to obtain a better understanding of the Soviet Union before it fell, beyond the propaganda provided by porky and glowie?
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Why are anime characters usually caucasian?

I'm not trying to start anything or get into any kid of idpol argument.

I'm just wondering why so many anime, many of which never receives a release outside of Japan, and takes place in Japan, is filled with characters who are obviously not Japanese.

Picrel, with a redhaired green-eyed character and a blue-eyed blonde, in the anime, both are native Japanese. They also have big noses like Caucasians.

What's going on here?
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On the Militia Question

Not trying to be an enlightened centrist here, but it has always seemed odd to me how people on the right and left fetishize the concept of a militia taking down a conventional army, when reality has shown the opposite result every time, I come from a shitty third world nation that is barely held together most of the time, and my country has experienced numerous rebellions by Islamists, ethnic nationalists, and communists, and every time they have failed. This is because a "well-armed and well-funded militia" is no match for a well-armed, better-trained army with superior logistics and structure. Of course, in the event of a total collapse, a militia could potentially become the only proper authority for a region or if faced with an entirely incompetent and corrupt army. However, in most cases, a real army always prevails over militias. I don't know how people fell for this meme really, Eve Marx bought into this up and advocated for workers' militias, which ultimately proved to be a massive waste of time and loss of life for everyone involved, the Spanish Republicans insisted on using them in the Spanish civil war and they were a massive hinderance that lost way too many battles, and thoughts of forming an actual army was "Stalinism" and a betrayal of the revolution.
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News 1/20/24

In Strategic Bind, Israel Weighs Freeing Hostages Against Destroying Hamas
Israel has established control over a smaller part of Gaza at this point in the war than it originally envisaged in battle plans from the start of the invasion, which were reviewed by The New York Times. That slower than expected pace has led some commanders to privately express their frustrations over the civilian government’s strategy for Gaza, and led them to conclude that the freedom of more than 100 Israeli hostages still in Gaza can be secured only through diplomatic rather than military means.

‘Refuse to fight’: Jewish, Arab activists call for peace in Israel’s Haifa
Omri Evron, a member of the Communist Party of Israel, who helped organise the anti-war protest, spoke to Al Jazeera about the message the protesters were hoping to convey.“The killing of thousands and thousands of Palestinians, the vast majority of whom are innocent civilians, is not only reprehensible, it does not serve the security of the people of Israel. It does not bring us security, it only ensures the next massacre, the next cycle of violence,” he said.

War on Gaza: Palestinians paying mediators thousands of dollars to escape into Egypt
This situation has opened the door for “mediators” to profit amidst the carnage. Right now, according to multiple sources, agreed fees range from $2,000 for children, to between $5,000 and $7,000 for adults. All deals are done in cash.

British Gas boss admits his humongous £4.5m salary cannot be justified
Asked why he accepts such high pay, the CEO shirked responsibility and pointed to the presenters interviewing him. “All of us sitting here on this sofa will make substantially more than £30,000,” he said. “It’s not for me to set my own pay. It’s not for you to set your own pay. “When you’ve got people who are struggling — and I look at my mum who’s on the basic state pension — it’s just impossible to justify, so there’s no point in trying to do that.”

Tata Steel to shut down Port Talbot blast furnaces, putting 3,000 jobs at risk
In what one union said would be a “crushing blow” to workers and UK steelmaking, Port Talbot’s parent company, the Indian-owned Tata Steel, told workers’ representatives that it could no longer afford to continue production at the loss-making plant in south Wales while it completed a four-year transition plan to greener production.

Russian prosecutors seek lengthy prison terms for suspects in cases linked to the war in Ukraine
A Russian court in Siberia on Friday sentenced a man to 19 years in prison for shooting a military enlistment officer, while prosecutors in St. Petersburg asked for a 28-year sentence for a woman charged in the bombing of a cafe last April that killed a prominent military blogger, reports said.

2023 Was Russia's Third-Hottest Year on Record, Says Head of State Weather Service
Warmer temperatures are fueling more extreme weather events across Russia, which last year totaled 1,191 across the country in 2023, according to the chief scientist. "Very severe weather events occurred in the Primorye region in late August — there has never been such rainfall before, and Primorye was paralyzed for several days," Vilfand said.

Repsol faces second lawsuit in Peru over oil spill
Spanish energy giant Repsol (REP.MC), opens new tab faces a class action lawsuit with 30,000 alleged victims in Peru stemming from a major oil spill in 2022, the law firm representing the class said on Monday, as a small protest marked two years since the incident.

Exclusive: U.S. Wildcat Entrepreneurs To Invest In Venezuelan Oil
The U.S. investors met with representatives of Petroleos de Venezuela SA (PDVSA), the state-owned oil firm, as well as local private companies. The delegation included Harry Sargeant III, the Florida-based oil businessman who has been a key figure in bringing together U.S. business interests and Venezuelan crude.

Stellantis buys Brazil's DPaschoal in another components push in Latam
Stellantis did not provide details of how much it paid for the stake. The carmaker, which had focused on selling auto parts to its own car stores in Brazil, will expand its presence in Latin America's largest economy through the acquisition. DPaschoal's has 123 stores and 2,800 employees in the country, the companies said in a presentation.

Centre Withholds Rs 7,000 Crore as West Bengal Fails to Display PM Modi's Photos and NFSA Logo at Ration Shops
In an ongoing tussle between the Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee-led West Bengal government and the Centre, the state's failure to display signboards and flexes featuring the National Food Security Act (NFSA) logo and photographs of Prime Minister Narendra Modi at ration shops has resulted in a significant financial setback. The Centre has decided to withhold the release of Rs 7,000 crore earmarked for the state government to procure paddy for central schemes, according to a report by The New Indian Express.

Jobseeker endured 11 weeks without Centrelink payments but was still forced to attend job agency appointments
McCabe’s case comes as the Albanese government faces scrutiny over blowouts in the waiting times for payment claims and calls to Services Australia. Centrelink last year experienced a significant blowout in wait times for claims in the middle of 2023, though between September 2023 and December 2023, the average wait for jobseeker was reduced from 31 days to 24 days, data from Services Australia shows. However, the payment is meant to have a “timeless standard” of 16 days.
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Happy Red Army Day!

106 years ago, on February 23, 1918, in the battles with the German invaders near Pskov and Narva, the Red Army was born. Thousands of workers and peasants rose up responding to the call of the Communist Party, to defend their socialist Motherland.

For more than 70 years — from 1918 to the end of the 1980s - Red army was the pride of the Soviet people, its support and protection. The Soviet Army won glorious victories on the fronts of the civil war and the military intervention of 14 imperialist states against the young Soviet Republic; under the leadership of Stalin, it defeated fascism and freed the peoples of Europe from fascist slavery; for almost half a century after the end of the WWII, together with the troops of the Warsaw Pact countries, it kept the world at peace.

Its traditions – devotion to the October Revolution, moral superiority over the enemy, mass heroism in battle, and internationalism – were formed in the flames of the Civil war and WWII, during which the socialist system proved that it was not only fairer, but also stronger than bourgeois barbarism.

Happy Soviet Army and Navy Day, comrades!
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Hayao Miyazaki / Ghibli

Do you have anything to say about this man?
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AI song covers

This shit's crazy. Post good ones.
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Cop City Summit

Thread about the summit in so-called Arizona, cop city, or any other related events going on at the moment. Wasn't sure where else to post this so I might as well here.
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There is a pedophile on the siberia chat

Please delete it thank you
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Moderation Thread

Come dispute bans, complain, and other such things related to /leftypol/ here. Please try not to spam this thread or make multiple posts on the same issue, as this makes it harder for us to respond to issues.

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Post in this thread every time you come to this board. Post music you like here, whatever it may be.
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Game of Thrones General

Now that the dust has settled, what's your verdict?
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Why are communists so afraid to admit that Zionism is related to Judaism?

Zionism has its roots in Moses Hess' religious-racial supremacist Jewish "socialist" theology. Herzl said he wouldn't have hit upon Zionism if not for Hess. And Judaism's concept of Jews being the chosen people is inherently ethnoreligiously supremacist. Why do communists deny this and say Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism? It's like saying German culture had no influence on Nazism.
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/leftybritpol/ - Ulster Says NO (to low wages) Edition

To be fair it's only the second largest industrial action in Northern Ireland. Do NOT ask about the first one, we don't talk about Britain's only ever successful general strike. We do NOT.
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I want to live the peaceful and serene life of the girls on the Comic LO covers.
How do you even crank your hog after seeing this, I just feel an odd sense of nostalgic longing for a childhood that I never actually experienced.
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Best commie moments for anime series

what times in leftist history would make the coolest animes anons?

ofc there are obvious ones like
>Russian revolution
>Black Panther Party
>rise of the CPC
>Free Territory
>Paris Commune
>Cuban revolution
>Spanish civil war
>Sankara biopic
>viet cong shonen

here are some less obvious I think would be neat
>years of lead
>cultural revolution
>1918 revolution in Germany
>commie block slice of life anime
>ZAPU shonen
>Seattle general strike
>Kamo biopic
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/swoletariat/ #4

Since nobody has made a new one and people keep asking for it I made the next one.
Beginner's Health and Fitness Guide, aka "the /fit/ sticky" - http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

Swole-Soldiers Edition

Previous threads on >>>/alt_archive/
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Delinquent manga/anime

Delinquents/yankii/banchou/sukeban are so fucking cool.

I wanted to get into delinquent manga from the 70s-80s starting with Sakigake!! Otokojuku. I torrented the whole manga's raws to practice my Japanese, as well, but I could never get around to reading it.
Likewise, even though it's not 2D (but it is adapted from manga) I torrented all of Sukeban Deka and could never watch more than 1 episode.
Unfortunately, I lost them both when my laptop broke.

Could you please recommend more delinquent stuff? Even if it's just one character in a series that's not about delinquents. If there's something like a rec chart that'd be pretty cool. If, not, we could make one.
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An intriguing thread which explores why the general public often fails to grasp the true essence of a 'bad' character and how often leftists unintentionally undermine themselves by portraying said characters with qualities that appeal to the average person
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what did Amin al-Husseini actually believe in, I tired looking for translated texts by him and I found nothing(if someone does have any texts by him and his views on race and religion I'd appreciate it) like I've been some alleged quotes by him to discredit Palestinians but I don't whether to believe it or not.
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Uhh yeah, this. What do we think of it?

I think the cinematically it was really good, but it had a lot of historical inaccuracies.
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Xi Jinping Thought

How is Xi Jinping Thought still Marxist or Socialist? I’m reading parts of “On the Governance of China”, and I’m wondering with comrades think of this topic.
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ITT: leftypol funniest moments

not pictured because i don't have the screenshot:
>that time anon made a post about trump being grown in a vat in somewhere france by the situationist to tank the us empire
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The Family and Radical Ideology

If your political ideology doesn't provide benefits to those with children or try to be of appeal to those with families and children, don't be surprised if your politics fail to haul in much popularity. Parenthood mandates that the parents must believe in the future, and that they must make the world sufficiently decent for those who come after. Is this group not the natural ally of the progressive revolutionary Communists? And what does it say about your ideology's goals, if people abandon it once they have families and people that they must provide for? The revolution always requires the consent of the masses, so don't delude your thoughts into the foolish idea that needed are only small numbers of fanatical fascists and anarchists, because the movies are very often fictional and idealistly, and the history bears out the constant failure of isolated lone wolf tools.
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Hiroyuki got his own isekai for some deranged reason

>Humanity has been driving away the Demon Lord's army for a long time by summoning "Heroes" once every 100 years. But one day, the Demon Lord's army devises a countermeasure to the Heroes: entrap and kill them when they're in a defenseless state straight after the summoning. To commemorate this historic fear, the Great Demon Lord designated that year as "Year One of Entrapment Killing." The Heroes have all been slaughtered by the Demon Lord's forces ever since. Fast forward to today, Year 1000 of Entrapment Killing: the summoners are very worried. "What kind of Hero should we call? I don't know… Someone take this out of our hands!" And thus, they summoned Hiroyuki, creator of 2channel and the master at settling debates.
That's right Japan is still in the "owned with facts and logic" phase of online discourse.
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This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators
Sorted by last name
>Paul Cockshott
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ)
https://twitter.com/PaulCockshott (https://nitter.pussthecat.org/PaulCockshott)
>Cibcom (Spanish)
https://twitter.com/cibcomorg (https://nitter.pussthecat.org/cibcomorg)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCav9ad3TMuhiWV6yP5t2IpA (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCav9ad3TMuhiWV6yP5t2IpA)
>Tomas Härdin
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5fDgA_eHleDiTLC5qb5g8w (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UC5fDgA_eHleDiTLC5qb5g8w)
>Victor Magariño
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJJwfW0R3Lv486AjwUWxIYw (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCJJwfW0R3Lv486AjwUWxIYw)
https://twitter.com/Victormagajr (https://nitter.pussthecat.org/Victormagajr)
>Elena Veduta
Various videos on YouTube but no channel of her own
>Dave Zachariah
One video on Paul Cockshott's channel

>General Intellect Unit
Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists

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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.

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Israeli Animation

Discussion of movies, TV, web shorts
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I am going insane

>ham fisted and not at all subtle fascist propaganda meant as a signal that something isn't right with this society

<"waow so cool this is something I should unironically believe"

Is media literacy in a uniquely bad state now, or have people always just been fascists deep down?
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Drone warfare

Thread to talk about drone warfare in general.

There are many ways drones can be used but I would like to talk about their potential use in protests and riots in the west.

In my experience something that is sorely lacking in protests going wild is intelligence about police postions, while the bad guys usually have a QG with plenty of operators gathering and distributing intelligence to police officers trough cameras, helicopters and, you guessed it, drones.

So, what's keeping us from using drones? Those for kids which are 50 bucks on amazon could do the trick, it would take a team of two, one pilot and one operative relaying intel trough a phone or a radio to someone in the front of the protest.

I know there are anti drone weapons, but they don't work that well and these aren't well established yet. In case of capture though it's good to prevent or render difficult a trace, so it would be smart to buy those drones trough proxies and false adresses, and scratch whatever number they have on them.
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Tank Warfare

Since tank warfare is a hot topic right now I'll drop some good tank vids.

First vid is a long one covering American tanker school.
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Making sense of the right wing and their allies

I think I finally understand the right wing, their allied reactionaries and how they compare to the left.
it really all boils down to the belief that nature is good, or that what's natural is good. that's it. that's the entirety of the right wing summarized (more or less).
for Evangelical Christians nature is God (or from God, and therefore good).
for Nazis it's (social)Darwinism. never mind the cruelty of evolution. (it's natural and produces results, therefore good!).
for ancap libertarians it's Darwinism and/or God (free market is naturally good).

and they all more or less suffer from the Just World fallacy to some degree (something bad happened to you for no real reason? you must've deserved it somehow).
this is why they all work well together, why they're all conservative and protective of the status quo, why they hate "big government" because they think that their "natural" rights are good and any intervention from human beings is evil or bad (any human solution is inferior to nature/God). they're completely blind to the cruelty and inefficiency of nature and don't see the errors in it.

the right wing is one big giant appeal to nature.
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How is Judith Butler still taken seriously

after she was caught donating to Copmala's campaign? Why is she still being adored by leftists and getting appeareances on leftist media?
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excavating tunnels, trenches, ditches, ramparts, moats, holes, any kind of defensive earthwork where industrial machinery isn't viable

you can get most stuff off of amazon or any hardware or milsurp store
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia and Oceania General

8th Edition: Failson squad assemble!edition.

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Coming 2024 Elections, open orgs, People that should be dead for different reasons running in Malaysia's elections or just random shit. There are still dozens of us… hopefully! South Asia and Oceania posters can come in to discuss their regional politics as well.

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org

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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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Read theory

I've been reading lots of Nick Land in the last months and his work had convinced me, that I had to reposotion my self on the (supposed) contradiction of reality/fiction. I mean, look at our current cyberpunk world, Nick was probably right. The future is cyborg-hybridization. We see, how powerful technocapital is. Consider, he wrote this stuff 30 years ago. So the main idea of Land is hyperstition, which basically means, there is no difference between fiction and reality. Keep this mindset and everything you read, everything becomes theory. Yes, THEORY in the leftypol sense. Example: The dimensional merge theory by Chris Chan. Holy shit, could you believe, what kind of based theories this guy is potentially able to write?? Another example: Lately I was playing Splatoon 3 and in the menu, you can read the story of Alterna. Holy shit, this real/fictional theory is so good! I'm not sure, if this board is the right place to post this thought, but I don't know any better place.
Please don't mind the pic, I'm runnin on 56kbit/s.
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Debunking the "Soviet Planned Economy Falsification" talking point

Some people recommended me a book called "The Turning Point: revitalizing the Soviet economy" during a debate.

Is this talking point real or just propaganda?
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How would you answer the petition?

We candlemakers are suffering from the unfair competition of a foreign rival. This for­eign manufacturer of light has such an advantage over us that he floods our domestic markets with his product. And he offers it at a fantastically low price. The moment this foreigner appears in our country, all our customers de­sert us and turn to him. As a re­sult, an entire domestic industry is rendered completely stagnant. And even more, since the lighting industry has countless ramifica­tions with other native industries, they, too, are injured. This foreign manufacturer who competes against us without mercy is none other than the sun itself!

Here is our petition: Please pass a law ordering the closing of all windows, skylights, shutters, cur­tains, and blinds — that is, all openings, holes, and cracks through which the light of the sun is able to enter houses. This free sunlight is hurting the business of us deserving manufacturers of candles. Since we have always served our country well, gratitude demands that our country ought not to abandon us now to this un­equal competition.

We hope that you gentlemen will not regard our petition as mere satire, or refuse it without at least hearing our reasons in support of it.

First, if you make it as difficult as possible for the people to have access to natural light, and thus create an increased demand for artificial light, will not all domestic manufacturers be stimulated thereby?

For example, if more tallow is consumed, naturally there must be more cattle and sheep. As a result, there will also be more meat, wool, and hides. There will even be more manure, which is the basis of agri­culture.

Next, if more oil is consumed for lighting, we shall have extensive olive groves and rape fields.

Also, our wastelands will be covered with pines and other res­inous trees and plants. As a re­sult of this, there will be numerous swarms of bees to increase the production of honey. In fact, all branches of agriculture will show an increased development.

The same applies to the shipping industry. The increased demand for whale oil will then require thousands of ships for whale fish­ing. In a short time, this will re­sult in a navy capable of upholding the honor of our country and grat­ifying the patriotic sentiments of the candlemakers and other per­sons in related industries.

The manufacturers of lighting fixtures — candlesticks, lamps, candelabra, chandeliers, crystals, bronzes, and so on — will be espe­cially stimulated. The resulting warehouses and display rooms will make our present-day shops look poor indeed.

The resin collectors on the heights along the seacoast, as well as the coal miners in the depths of the earth, will rejoice at their higher wages and increased pros­perity. In fact, gentlemen, the con­dition of every citizen of our country — from the wealthiest owner of coal mines to the poorest seller of matches — will be improved by the success of our pe­tition.
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Proposal: we need a new left.

A lot of what I have to say is going to anger most of you here, but I know that there are at least a couple of smart brave leftists that lurk here, this message is for you, not the mouth breathers. the "left" includes libshits as well, just for clarification.

I like to think of my self as a leftist because the left are the revolutionaries that are against suffering and oppression. the main problem is that the left is all heart but little brain.

most people on the left reject biological reality (evolutionary psychology is detested) and base their entire retarded theories on false axioms that don't correspond with reality. they're not brave enough look at reality and see it for what it is (harsh darwinian ruthless competition), instead they make up narratives that suit their constructed world view, they deny reality or at least aspects of it, they suffer from willful ignorance, which hardly makes them better than the theologians that they love to sneer at. this same cowardliness disables them from being even harsher critics of the oppression and suffering that takes place on earth.

here is an example that explains what im talking about.
leftists love to boast about how the modern world lacks scarcity, as if that's going to somehow automagically solve our problems. because they reject evolutionary psychology, they refuse to think of humans as greedy organisms that are biologically stuck in the stone age. it must be capitalism! or some other nonsense. and it's not that im defending capitalism, that's besides the point, which is that the left refuses to dig deeper into the origins of human psychology.
and so their entire methods and theories will crumble because they're based on false premises and axioms.

the true leftists are the pessimists, the antinatalists, hardcore vegans and maybe some of the transhumanists, everyone else is retarded. we need to a new tent for the leftists that are more rational, brave and critical that is separate from the "mainstream left".

another concern is this, the reason why the right wing gains so many people is because they appeal to their rationality. im not saying that the left isn't rational, it's just the left is horrible when it comes to appealing to people with low empathy, and so the left seems irrational to these people. this is why we need a better more critical left, that is not afraid of discussing ideas that are outside of the overton window, such as race realism. you can detest this all you want and you'd be right in your heart but you have to understand that this doesn't matter to your political opponent.
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Suicide as a matter of principle

In situations where a worse fate awaits. The main gist was that suicide is the only right we really have. Somebody brought up a totalitarian system that employs torture and severe maltreatment and suggested suicide could be rational under such circumstances. I would like to have another thread on it because the idea of duicide being an "off button" that allows us to escape horryfing stuff life may throw at us. I, for one have held the belief that suicide is trully the only inalienable right, and pretty much agree 95%. The question that i asked in that thread will be the focal point of this one, so ill copy my comm

Mainly, I eould like to discuss the PRACTICALITY of defending that right. How can we, as revolutionaries, ensure that no matter the circumstances it is always an option? Say they take you by surprise at the dead of and put you in a padded cell? What can be done before that happens to ensure one has an exit strategy? Is there an easily conceilable item that can be used or does ot not matter because all humans make mistakes including those at the concentration ?

I would like to discuss this in depth because this question has bothered me for years, and I dont believe ill have peace until I get a satisfactory conclusion. Ehile free and in peacetime, there are a bajilion eays that can be accomplished, but should a crisis come and theres no way out, eat do?

Tl;dr, we have one right and how can we protect it should the repression become too severe, because lets be honest, being a leftist noe is a death sentence once shtf?
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The Communist is the sublation of the Capitalist

When you understand the primacy and importance of the development of the productive forces, and the role that capital in itself has in revolutionizing society, you're able to adopt the proficiency of the Capitalist while shedding his narrow limits.

When a Capitalist employs capital he does so with primary concern for his individual being or interests. The advancement of the productive forces is an incidental byproduct of his activity. He uncovers all of these new ways of managing his businesses for the sake of efficiency.

But his limit is reached in the monopolistic stage, when there's no drive to improve or update, and there's more of a reason to hold back the development of others or employ regressive means of production and management because it saves on costs and there's no competition to spurn you forward.

The principle contradiction of capitalism is thus achieved. The overwhelming majority of society's labor is operated socially yet the fruits of labor is held in private hands, directed in private hands, and owned by private hands - society's elite minority acting as private citizens with 0 social obligations.

Thus the capitalist and the system of capital became a retarding, retrogressive force, a fetter on the world.

The Communist on the other hand recognizes two truths: the potency of the proper management of capital to advance the productive forces, and the necessary resonance between social relations and the productive forces.

Whereas the Capitalist wishes to halt the wheel of progress for fear of losing his social position, the Communist not only wishes for the wheel to move forwards regardless of the sacrifice, but to accelerate that wheel.

Instead of capital and scientific management of the workplace being employed for capital's own sake - profits for profit's own sake, the Communist will employ capital and scientific management for social need, for the common good, for society's sake.

This isn't done out of "moralism" or the goodness of the heart of the Communist, but out of a sober, objective recognition that society as such can not sustain the primacy of the logic of capital any longer - capital must be contained and controlled by social need, for social need, and from that containment capital, or rather the productive fruits of capital, will be freed.

When capital is freed from the Capitalist, a new golden era of humanity can finally flourish, and it can only be freed via the socialization of the means of production and the fruits of its labor.

In the mean time, the working class already feels the pressure of the contradictions of capitalism. He sees his country rotting and crumbling. He knows that a crisis is on the horizon and is unsure if his home will survive the next few storms. And yet he *wants* control and ownership of capital, of the means of production, and the means to secure his livelihood. But he is denied, surrounded by walls.

Once the storm comes and the walls begin to crumble and crack, he *will* attempt a breakout.

This is where the Communist comes into play. He is scarier than the Capitalist because he is willing to topplllee every single wall in the name of human progress, all while scientifically learning *how* the Capitalist operates and using those lessons as a starting point to break down the next wall and the one after it.

The Communist is outdoes the Capitalist in being a capitalist. He understands capitalism better than the Capitalist. He manages people and employs capital more effectively than the Capitalist.

The Communist learns from the Capitalist, then out-competes him and compels the titan of industry to become pillars of society.
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Are computers a branch of state/defense/power within the context of a communist party?
It seems they are only treated as tools for mass propaganda and outreach for most I've come into contact with (and with questionable results – amounting to retweeting each other or posting take downs as Facebook posts with hardly any engagement). Is this way of using the technology maybe a huge mistake setting us back currently, especially considering the media platforms often are confirmed police/SIGINT tools where our groups are indisputably targeted/sabotaged?
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How do liberals cope with being cynical bloodless cunts?

Just the way they believe in nothing, are pleased with candidates that offer nothing, call their systems democracies worth “saving” whilst admitting their candidates are despised and cannot improve anyone’s life, either feel genuinely happy or are so hollowed inside they’re unbothered by this crumbling society. Fuck, the people they uphold don’t even have fucking charisma, they aren’t funny, aren’t strongmen, offer no great plans, they’re bloodless fucking lizards too, senile ones at that if you’re an American liberal.

How can anyone still be a liberal, how? How???
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Was this guy really as anti-religious as people say he is? Wikipedia makes it out as if Albania is like the DPRK when it comes to hatred of religion (I know for the DPRK the anti-theism stuff is quite bullshit). Are they right?
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Avatar thread

Thread for discussing ATLA and LoK or rather analyzing both, appreciating the effort of creating the former and shitting on the lazy liberalism of the latter
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Hilo Latinoamericano 6.0

Hilo latino flacos, tratemos de mantenerlo mas activo que el hilo pasado. Ameribros as always we allow you to speak english, we are not Ukrainian fascists.

Para luego buscarlo en el catálogo:
Latinoamérica, Latin America, LATAM, /lat/, latinoamérica, latino américa, hispanoamerica, /ñ/
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Yakuza / Like A Dragon

What do you think of the Yakuza / Like A Dragon series? I love it!
Thread for everything Ryu Ga Gotoku
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New Elden Ring DLC

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Seeing how there’s multiple /co/ related threads on the board. I think we should just put all of them into one general just for clarity’s sake.

Discuss anything related to comics and animations from comic recs, leftist animations to comic writers’ attempts to larp as leftists.

Seriously is there a worse anarchist in the UK than Alan Moore?
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Watts Atelier of the Arts

I'm interested in their content but i cannot afford it (global south issues). Any of you know where i can download it? Thanks.