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/leftybritpol/ election fallout edition

Official /leftybritpol/ Theme

https://youtu.be/u6XT3yc8G5s

Discuss goings on in the UK, the latest election cycle, if Keir is Queer and more….in /leftybritpol/
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/ CYBERCOM /

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

https://www.patreon.com/williamCockshott/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCVBfIU1_zO-P_R9keEGdDHQ)
https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/
http://paulcockshott.co.uk/
https://twitter.com/PaulCockshott (https://nitter.pussthecat.org/PaulCockshott)
>Cibcom (Spanish)
https://cibcom.org/
https://twitter.com/cibcomorg (https://nitter.pussthecat.org/cibcomorg)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCav9ad3TMuhiWV6yP5t2IpA (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCav9ad3TMuhiWV6yP5t2IpA)
>Tomas Härdin
https://www.haerdin.se/tag/cybernetics.html
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5fDgA_eHleDiTLC5qb5g8w (https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UC5fDgA_eHleDiTLC5qb5g8w)

Podcasts
>General Intellect Unit
Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists
http://generalintellectunit.net/

Previous threads in chronological order
https://archive.is/uNCEY
https://web.archive.org/web/20201218152831/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/997358.html
https://archive.ph/uyggp
https://archive.is/xBFYY
https://archive.ph/Afx5a
https://archive.is/kAPvR
https://archive.is/0sAS2
https://archive.is/jXivP
https://archive.is/Lx8TF
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/ISG/ - Internet Spectacle General

A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blq9sCIyXgA

>The Culture Industry from Dialectic of Enlightenment (1944) by Theodore Adorno & Max Horkheimer

📓 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/adorno/1944/culture-industry.htm
📖 • https://libcom.org/article/dialectic-enlightenment-philosophical-fragments-theodor-adorno-and-marx-horkheimer
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hSLdd8R8mY

<Understanding Media (1964) by Marshall McLuhan

📖 • https://designopendata.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/understanding-media-mcluhan.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ML9n5f1fE

>One-Dimensional Man (1964) by Herbert Marcuse

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/one-dimensional-man-studies-ideology-advanced-industrial-society-herbert-marcuse
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCoLbEkAqs

<Discipline and Punish (1975) by Michel Foucault

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/michel-foucault-discipline-and-punishment
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s82uU4iRuko

>Simulacra and Simulation (1981) by Jean Baudrillard

📖 • https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/baudrillard.-1970.-the-consumer-society/Baudrillard.1981.Simulacra-and-Simulation.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yxg2_6_YLs

<Manufacturing Consent (1988) by Edward S. Herman & Noam Chomsky

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/manufacturing-consent-political-economy-mass-media-noam-chomsky-and-edward-s-herman
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M

>The Sublime Object of Ideology (1989) by Slavoj Zizek

📖 • https://altexploit.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/slavoj-zizek-the-sublime-object-of-ideology-second-edition-the-essential-zizek-2009.pdf
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtIckkHsUQ4

<Postscript on the Societies of Control (1990) by Gilles Deleuze

📖 • https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/gilles-deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu4Cq_-bLlY

>Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (1991) by Fredric Jameson

📖 • https://www.are.na/block/4114741
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4k26xGx1zI

<Spectres of Marx (1993) by Jacques Derrida

📖 • https://libcom.org/library/specters-marx-jacques-derrida
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0NwXWb6Q

>Capitalist Realism (2009) by Mark Fisher

📖 • https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-realism-mark-fisher
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cb5XJH4NMI

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SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIAL

>Precursor Material to Post-modernity and Critical Theory

📖 • Karl Marx - Book 1, Chapter 4 of Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts (1844)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm
📺 • Why Marx Was Right: Alienation - PlasticPills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRxxN4Kh30

📖 • Georg Lukács - Chapter 4 of History and Class Consciousness (1923)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/history/hcc05.htm
📺 • Marxism After Marx: Reification - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZiI-QKxBKI

📖 • Antonio Gramsci - Book 1, Chapter 1 of Selections from the Prison Notebooks (1929)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/prison_notebooks/problems/intellectuals.htm
📺 • Hegemony: WTF? An introduction to Gramsci and cultural hegemony - Tom Nicholas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LI_2-qsovo

📖 • Louis Althusser - Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses (1970)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/althusser/1970/ideology.htm
📺 • Althusser's Concept of Ideology: A Discussion with Anthony Gavin - Acid Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtOqXxkKwvw


<Documentaries

The Society of the Spectacle (1974) by Guy Debord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjF6I6SYjgA

Manufacturing Consent (1992) by Mark Achbar & Peter Wintonick, with Noam Chomsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li2m3rvsO0I

The Pervert's Guide to Cinema (2006) and The Pervert's Guide to Ideology (2012) by Sophie Fiennes, with Slavoj Zizek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuI4SFw4g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBcFLmu_tlc

HyperNormalisation (2016) by Adam Curtis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv3Tr3jvZM&rco


>Easy-Bake Breadtube (for absolute beginners)

We're All Fake Now - Wisecrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTW1mPOJJ_Y

Are Cell Phones Replacing Reality? - PBS Idea Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXIAM7dTTg

The Cultural Significance of Cyberpunk - Cuck Philosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvor7hhDKTs

Introduction to Critical Theory for the 21st Century - Nathan Dufour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7stVZPGxIw

The Work of Art in the Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Brendan Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKiBJJFXZI


<Situationist Archives

https://situationist.org/
https://notbored.org/SI.html
https://bopsecrets.org/SI/index.htm

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RECOMMENDED OP-EDS
I Don’t Want to Be an Internet Person by Ginevra Davis
https://www.palladiummag.com/2022/11/04/i-do-not-want-to-be-an-internet-person/

Pluralistic: Tiktok's enshittification by Cory Doctorow
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

Facebook's Threads is so depressing by Jason O. Gilbert
https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
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/ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine War General #287

Previous: >>2796324

Victory day post mortem edition

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740
https://azovlobby.substack.com/
https://banderalobby.substack.com/

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

Watch Together
📺 News/events: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
📺 Hangout/chill: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcast

Watch By Yourself
>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
📺 • The News Atlas: https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas
📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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Social media
>Twitter
https://x.com/GeromanAT
https://x.com/plnewstoday
https://x.com/RALee85
https://x.com/MarQs__
https://x.com/KofmanMichael
https://x.com/IntelCrab (DEAD)
https://x.com/michaelh992
https://x.com/Suriyakmaps
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_ (NEW)

<Telegram

https://t.me/milinfolive
https://t.me/hueviykharkov
https://t.me/conflictzone
https://t.me/vorposte
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/grey_zone
https://t.me/AussieCossack
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/Slavyangrad

🇷🇺🇺🇦
Thread guidelines:
• Please remember to add a spoiler to NSFW and extreme content such as graphic violence and gore.
• Try your best to not derail discussion too much from the main events and relevant places where the war is taken place, as well as other happenings, groups and public figures related to it.
• Meta discussion of the historical, philosophical and ideological background of the war is fine as long as its done in good faith and comradely.
• In the event the meta discussion overstays its welcome, participating users will be referred to take the conversation to the INTERNATIONALISM general thread.
• Quality shitposting and original content is encouraged! Spamming glowie memes is low effort.
• this is /ISG/ for people who treats geopolitics like shitty map games
• behead NATO, crush NATO, etc.
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Is there an American socialist org that supports China/DPRK but not Russia? I thought about getting involved with the PSL but I did more research on their foreign policy and they don’t flat out support Russia but excuse the annexation of Crimea and the SMO.

Pic unrelated
R: 535 / I: 64

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is retarded

Russia had no good reason to invade Ukraine, Ukraine has good reason to resist Russian occupation but should be open to ceding territory in return for peace if possible. I do not buy that the Far-Right parties around the world that defend this invasion were actually le based prole-pilled geniuses the entire time. Prove me wrong.
R: 532 / I: 92

/USApol/

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Sino-Burger Summit Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/

💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
• Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
• database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
• list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
• ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
• US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

• 📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
• 📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
• 📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
• 📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
• 📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
• 📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

• Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
• AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
• Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
• IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
• IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
• ▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

• deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
• Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
• Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
• /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
• More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
• Visualization of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
• UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
• First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

• CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
• Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
• Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
• Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

• Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/~~
• Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
• The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
• Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
• Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

• Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
• DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
• Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
• Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

• 📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
• 📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
• 📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
• 📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
• 📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• 📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
• 📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
• 📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
• 📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
• 📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
• 📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Which side are you on? - Pete Seeger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE

Previous Thread: >>2808921
R: 46 / I: 13

Stalin affair with 13 years old girl

Tankies will call it fake news, despite its genetic tested by Russians.
“Le CIA propaganda” schizophrenic tinfoil hat won’t work on this.

And I wonder why he didn’t purge Beria lol
R: 52 / I: 12

/Iran war/ thread #65

<Bond Vigilantism edition

>Previous bake

>>2806554

Latest News
>Nothing ever happens
<IDF still getting groyped by Hezb drones.
>Israel confirms that some of their generals went to the UAE during the war
<Nothing comes out of the US-China summit
>US bond yields spiked. 10y now solidly above 4.5

>Important Links:

https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:52.7/centery:26.8/zoom:7
https://www.defconlevel.com/
https://oilprice.com/
https://www.pizzint.watch/
https://eam.watch/
https://www.gmcmap.com/index.asp
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;@54.2,31.0,7.1z
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

>Useful Channels:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuran
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexMercouris
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexChristoforou
https://www.youtube.com/@dialogueworks01
https://www.youtube.com/@DanielDavisDeepDive
https://www.youtube.com/@DannyHaiphongYT
https://www.youtube.com/@justinpodur
https://www.youtube.com/@IndiaGlobalLeft
https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMedhurst
https://www.youtube.com/@GDFofficial
https://www.youtube.com/@neutralitystudies
https://www.youtube.com/@prop_co
https://www.youtube.com/@CyrusJanssen
https://www.youtube.com/@breakingpoints
https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas
https://www.youtube.com/@willyOAM
https://www.youtube.com/@GDiesen1
https://www.youtube.com/@theeastisapodcast
https://www.youtube.com/@GeopoliticalEconomyReport
https://www.youtube.com/@TheElectronicIntifada

>Useful Xitters

https://xcancel.com/IranObserver0
https://xcancel.com/araghchi
https://xcancel.com/conflict_radar
https://xcancel.com/TheCradleMedia
https://xcancel.com/AliAbunimah
https://xcancel.com/BrianJBerletic
https://xcancel.com/angeloinchina
https://xcancel.com/jonelmer
https://xcancel.com/MarkAmesExiled
https://xcancel.com/UrOrientalist
https://xcancel.com/MaxBlumenthal
https://xcancel.com/dreizinreport/

>Useful TG:

https://t(dot)me/s/wfwitness
https://t(dot)me/s/Middle_East_Spectator
https://t(dot)me/s/enemywatch

>Useful Blogs/Podcasts/News:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
https://simplicius76.substack.com/
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/
https://sonar21.com/
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
https://thegrayzone.com/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/live-us-and-israel-attack-iran
https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/t687i-9b79d/War-Nerd-Radio-%E2%80%94-Subscriber-Feed-Podcast
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Cuba is gonna be invaded

This isn't a joke or anything
Cuba is gonna be invaded by the US by next month, and I don't have much hope in the Cuban armed forces alone.

Either an armed resistance needs to be established in the United States or international voluteers need to be formed for Cuba, either by the Cuban goverment or some communist org (PSL, RCI, etc).
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/Political Economy/ General #6 - The Corn of Zhong Guo edition

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Youtube Playlists
Anwar Shaikh - Historical Foundations of Political Economy
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Anwar Shaikh - Capitalism: Competition, Conflict and Crises
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Anwar Shaikh - Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz4k72ocf2TZMxrEVCgpp1b5K3hzFWuZh
Capital Volume 1 high quality audiobook from Andrew S. Rightenburg (Human-Read, not AI voice or TTS voice)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSHVigHHx_wjaeWmDN2W-h8
Capital Volume 2 high quality audiobook from Andrew S. Rightenburg (Human-Read, not AI voice or TTS voice)
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Capital Volume 3 high quality audiobook from Andrew S. Rightenburg (Human-Read, not AI voice or TTS voice)
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Theories of Surplus Value high quality audiobook from Andrew S. Rightenburg (Human-Read, not AI voice or TTS voice)
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Paul Cockshott - Labor Theory of Value Playlist
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Geopolitical Economy Hour with Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson (someone says "he's CIA doing reheated Proudhonism" lol)
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Potential Sources of Information
Leftypol Wiki Political Economy Category (needs expanding)
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Sci-Hub
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Marxists Internet Archive
https://www.marxists.org/
Library Genesis
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University of the Left
http://ouleft.sp-mesolite.tilted.net/Online
bannedthought.net
https://bannedthought.net/
Books scanned by Ismail from eregime.org that were uploaded to archive.org
https://archive.org/details/@ismail_badiou
The Great Soviet Encyclopedia: Articles from the GSE tend to be towards the bottom.
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/
EcuRed: Cuba's online encyclopedia
https://www.ecured.cu/
Books on libcom.org
https://libcom.org/book
Dictionary of Revolutionary Marxism
https://massline.org/Dictionary/index.htm
/EDU/ ebook share thread
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/22659.html
Pre-Marxist Economics (Marx studied these thinkers before writing Capital and Theories of Surplus Value)
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/index.htm
Principle writings of Karl Marx on political economy, 1844-1883
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/economy/index.htm
Speeches and Articles of Marx and Engels on Free Trade and Protectionism, 1847-1888
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/free-trade/index.htm
(The Critique Of) Political Economy After Marx's Death
https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/postmarx.htm
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Communism is an impossibility, you’re never getting rid of the division of labor. Even if you got rid of entrepreneurs and investors and replaced them with the state you’ll never have factory workers doing brain surgery or high level accounting. Unless you rotate which sector sets the government agenda (which will inevitably benefit itself above the wider community) you’re just going to have a dictatorship of HR departments, which would be worse than the status quo.
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Wage/consumption taxes are the best kind of taxes under capitalism because they incentivize the state to keep workers well paid. Property taxes just encourage the state to invest in resource extraction. Bureaucrats simply cannot embezzle money for their treats if taxes are derived from the wages of the workers and workers are not well paid. Furthermore, the state nationalizing enterprises is counterproductive because it directly transforms the state into being a capitalist instead of just being bribed by capitalists. You may not like it, but the best state under global capitalism runs purely off of wage taxes and has no public industry.
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do classcucks really?

>elon musk was born jun 28 1971 and has been alive roughly 1.73 billion seconds
>elon musk as of may 2026 has a net worth of 788 billion dollars
>elon musk has roughly $455 for every second he has been alive

classcucks will say he "earned" that. lmfao. that every second of his life, his genius brain innovates 455 dollars into his pocket.

can a person really "earn" that much or can they only get lucky and maybe also position themselves properly in a fundamentally exploitative system? some of you will no doubt answer that he "earned" it for the sake of provocative contrarianism
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/PRC/ People's Republic of China 22

>it works in practice but it doesn't work in theory edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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On Fascism and the Old Regime

What were the class dynamics behind the rise of fascism in Europe?

A while ago I read The Persistence Of The Old regime by Arno Mayer (I wrote a short summary here >>>/edu/25554). It can be summarized as follows:
<"Down to 1914 Europe was preeminently pre-industrial and prebourgeois. Its civil societies being deeply rooted in economies of labor-intensive agriculture, consumer manufacture and petty commerce."
>Mayer goes on to show that economically, politically and culturally the now post-feudal ancien regime was still dominant. The grande bourgeoisie did not yet exist as a class for itself. Its new industrial economic base was grafted onto the old, but still dominant, agricultural one, the latter of which the nobility held in their hands through their vast land ownership.
Mayer asserts in Why Did The Heavens Not Darken, his book on the Judeocide, that Germany was "very much still an old regime" even after the revolution that ended the Wilhelmine autocracy. The same was true for much of Eastern Europe, hence why there too there was an aristocratic propensity towards empowering fascists as to use their popular base for the former's continued survival.

Right now I'm reading Hitler And The Peasants by Gustavo Corni and he too mentions the continued, but waning, supremacy that large landowners enjoyed on the countryside:
>[…] until 1940-5 the cast of large landowners in the east (aristocratic or otherwise) continued to exercise a hegemonic role from a social and politico-cultural point of view, rather than from an economic one.
Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg, himself an arch-Junker, and entered into a coalition with the traditional conservatives of the DNVP. The latter were only willing to do so after losing many (countryside) votes to the NSDAP because they failed to copy their "popular" conservatism.

Corni notes on Nazi agricultural ideology:
>The vital role of the state, the preservation of the landed estates for strategic purposes, and imperialist expansion (which was much more a response to the deeply rooted demands of the Junkertum than a move in the interests of the peasants) — these were all muted notes in the 'leitmotif' which ran through [Nazi agricultural ideologist Richard Walter] Darré's ideology

Of course, there is also the lower middle-class of self employed artisans who were being outcompeted by large scale industry. They, like the peasants, also found little representation in the new Weimar Republic where the main conflict seemed to be between the industrial Bourgeoisie and the unions and Social Democratic and Communist parties of the working class. Here too there was fertile ground for fascism to expand its popular base.

This all runs counter to the idea I sometimes see propagated that fascism is the Bourgeoisie's last ditch effort to stay in power when a real or imagined revolution seems near. Instead, it seems like actually existing fascism, at least in Europe, is aristocratic in origins, all the forces of pre-modernity sperging out one last time before truly losing all relevance (of course, the Bourgeoisie — cucked, as per Mayer — doesn't mind any of this). This would also imply (?) that in much of our contemporary world, the social base for fascism is completely gone, which is a conclusion I'm not sure I'd be willing to make.
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==PERU ELECTIONS 2026==

PERU ELECTIONS 2026
PENCILMAN FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
Well dear leftypol, the country with more presidents in the decade now has to again elect one. After the debacle of Pencilman I, the betrayal of Dinamita Boluarte, the r*pist lapdog of Jeri and the sarcophagus of current Balcazar comes the rematch. Roberto Sanchez, exminister in Castillo's goverment is practically the second round candidate with Fujimori (no explanation needed). Now, he is being bombarded by the press to debilitate his campaing and with all the sloganeering as always (statist, terrierist, betrayer, etc).
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News 5/15/26

Bolivian Miners Escalate Protests Against Paz
The mobilizations initially centered on demands for expanded mining zones, improved fuel access and regulatory changes. Protesters later attempted to march toward Plaza Murillo, where the Government Palace and Congress are located. Police responded with tear gas to stop the mining columns as dynamite explosions were reported across several streets in the historic center of the capital. Although a delegation of miners held prior talks with government officials, including Economy Minister José Gabriel Espinoza, who said authorities were “open to dialogue,” the negotiations failed to ease tensions.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/bolivian-miners-escalate-protests/

Threatened indictment of Raúl Castro ratchets up US pressure on Cuba
Although Raúl is officially retired, he remains the most potent figure in Cuban politics following the death of his brother Fidel in 2016, and by targeting him Washington appears to be heaping pressure on Cuba’s communist leadership at the end of an already extraordinarily intense week.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/15/raul-castro-indictment-cuba-trump

Peruvian prosecutors seek to disqualify leftist presidential candidate
Now the pressure against the leftist candidate is coming from the Peruvian Public Prosecutor’s Office, which is seeking a sentence of five years and four months, as well as a “permanent disqualification”, which would bar him from the electoral process. Meanwhile, Peru’s National Jury of Elections (JNE) has announced that it will announce the final results from the first round on May 17, defining who will head to the run off.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/05/15/peruvian-prosecutors-seek-to-disqualify-leftist-presidential-candidate/

Israeli nationalists chant ‘death to Arabs’ in violent Jerusalem Day march
Marchers were bused in from around Israel and from settlements in the occupied West Bank in a vast operation funded by the Jerusalem municipality and government ministries. The finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, also took part in Thursday’s march. Once Palestinians had left the Old City, much of the tension was between government-backed marchers and members of a Jewish group, Standing Together, which had come to protect Palestinian residents from political violence. Suf Patishi, a Standing Together organiser, said a record 400 volunteers had turned up in hi-vis vests in the organisation’s trademark purple, on a day fraught with risks.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/14/israel-nationalists-jerusalem-day-march-anniversary-protest

Iran hangs man on Israel spy charges, another over protests
The Iranian judiciary's Mizan Online website described Ehsan Afreshteh, 32, as "a spy trained by Mossad in Nepal who sold sensitive information to Israel" and said he had been executed. It later announced in a separate statement that Mohammad Abbasi, who had been sentenced to death over the killing of a police officer during the January protests, had also been hanged.
https://www.newarab.com/news/iran-hangs-man-israel-spy-charges-another-over-protests

BRICS talks end without joint statement as divisions over Iran war deepen
Sudan was also on the agenda. The African country remains in the grip of what the UN has described as the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. Ministers called for an immediate ceasefire, saying that only a peaceful solution through dialogue could bring a lasting end to the civil war, which began more than three years ago. They also warned that Sudan could become fertile ground for what ministers described as “extremism” and “terrorism”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/15/brics-talks-end-without-joint-statement-as-divisions-over-iran-war-deepen
https://archive.ph/XMFEs

Samsung's South Korean union sticks to strike plan after talks offer
South Korean labour union said on Friday it remained committed to a planned strike ‌starting next week, even after the company proposed resuming pay talks without conditions, sending shares down as much as 9.3%. Government-mediated negotiations between the union and the company over pay and bonus schemes collapsed this week, heightening concerns about a strike at the world's biggest memory chipmaker.
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/samsung-elecs-union-says-samsung-proposed-unconditional-talks-strike-plan-holds-2026-05-15/

Australia uses new law to ban neonazi network
The ban, which would take effect at the end of Friday, makes it illegal to support, fund, train, recruit, join or direct the group, including if it reformed under a new name, Mr Burke said. Breaking the law is punishable by up to 15 years in prison. The group Hizb ut-Tahrir was in March the first group banned under the hate speech law. That organisation and the National Socialist Network were publicly identified by lawmakers and officials as the policy’s primary targets.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/australia-uses-new-law-ban-neonazi-network

Zelenskyy’s ex-top aide arrested as Ukraine graft probe widens
Ukrainian authorities named Yermak on Monday as a suspect in a major corruption probe. His arrest is the closest anti-corruption officials have come to the president’s inner circle. Ukraine’s anti-graft agencies said in a statement that Yermak is suspected of participating in a criminal group that laundered around $10.5 million through an elite housing development outside the capital, Kyiv.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/zelenskyys-ex-top-aide-arrested-ukraine-graft-probe-widens-rcna345084

Palestinian activist Ramy Shaath faces deportation from France
The notice also points to "repeated controversial actions and remarks" allegedly made during public appearances, including at a November 2023 protest in Paris, where he denounced what he called "Israel's criminal occupation of Gaza" and referred to "Israeli 'terrorists' who bomb houses and hospitals". An investigation into the offence of "defending terrorism" opened over the remarks was closed in October 2024.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260515-palestinian-activist-ramy-shaath-faces-deportation-from-france
https://archive.ph/qQomd

Human rights groups urge Poland to stop facilitating US deportations to Ukraine
According to the NGOs’ findings, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) conducted two operations – one in November 2025, the other in March 2026 – to send over 50 people to Ukraine through Poland. That prompted Amnesty and Human Rights First to send a letter to Poland’s foreign and interior ministers about the issue in mid-April, since when a further ICE flight containing an unknown number of people being sent to Ukraine landed at Rzeszów Jasionka Airport.
https://notesfrompoland.com/2026/05/14/human-rights-groups-urge-poland-to-stop-facilitating-us-deportations-to-ukraine/

Hundreds of thousands to demonstrate in London for Nakba anniversary
Protesters are demanding an end to Britain’s complicity in Israel’s military occupation, apartheid and genocide. The march marks the annual, globally observed occasion to commemorate the Nakba, or “catastrophe” in Arabic, in which 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes and 500 towns and villages destroyed in the foundation of the state of Israel in 1948.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/hundreds-thousands-demonstrate-london-nakba-anniversary
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Draw Alunya 3

Alunya Art thread
(Draw or showcase new Alunya art)
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/leftypol/ Ordinances

Hello /leftypol/ users. This is a thread to post ordinances, i.e. ad hoc rules voted on by the modocracy, which are not covered explicitly by the rules in rules.html, though most are arguably applications or clarifications of actions prohibited by the existing rules. Any posts violating these ordinances will be removed, and possibly banned at the mods discretion. This post will be periodically updated to reflect new ordinances, or to remove old ones.

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post cool nihilist quotes

I start:

>Having observed the social reality that all living things on earth are incessantly engaged in a struggle for survival, that they kill each other to survive, I concluded that if there is an absolute, universal law on earth, it is the reality that the strong eat the weak. This, I believe, is the law and truth of the universe. Now that I have seen the truth about the struggle for survival and the fact that the strong win and the weak lose, I cannot join the ranks of the idealists and adopt an optimistic mode of thinking which dreams of the construction of a society that is without authority and control. As long as all living things do not disappear from the earth, the power relations based on this principle [of the strong crushing the weak] will persist. Because the wielders of power continue to defend their authority in the usual manner and oppress the weak—and because my past experience has been a story of oppression by all sources of authority—I decided to deny the rights of all authority, rebel against them, and stake not only my own life but that of all humanity on this endeavor. ~Kaneko Fumiko
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i've been autistically obsessed with american truck simulator recently. never liked driving/racing games but gave it a shot and it's so cozy and nice, it's like a little roadtrip simulator, what do y'all think about it?
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Being into femboys doesn‘t make a man gay or bisexual. This may sound like a cope to avoid admitting to being either, but think about it.

Men who are into femboys are usually men who are also into women. And what they are into in femboys is a heteronormative presentation of femininity. Such men are usually not into men who look like men. One could then argue this is a preference, but a preference would mean that they are still into men but merely prefer this type of man. This isn‘t the case for men who into femboys though. Of all the people who are male they aren‘t turned on by any of them except femboys. So it‘s not a preference, it‘s exclusivity. Finally, men who are into femboys are generally not interested in sucking dick or being fucked in the ass.

We either conclude that 1) this is bisexuality but a very, very limited form of it with peculiarities that make it distinct from ordinary bisexuals who are attracted to average men, or 2) it is heterosexuality, but a redefined version whose basis isn‘t biology but certain signifiers and presentation, or 3) these men are standard heterosexuals but given enough female elements the gullible human brain mistakes it for a woman and lights up the horny center of the male brain. Evolution did not foresee cute, horny femboys and therefore didn‘t exclude it as a pointless mating option.
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Are normies really THAT trans/homophobic?

Looking online, it might seem that way. But maybe it's just a couple percent of mentally ill sadists who scream louder than everyone else? As I recall from school (I've been NEET for a long time now and don't have any relevant personal experience), only 30% of students were bullies; the rest either did nothing or indulged them, but without much motivation.
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why did third worldists side with maoist china over the soviet union and call the soviets social-imperialists when the soviet union supported far more national liberation movements worldwide and maoist china ended up coddling up to the USA?
was it because "white people bad"?
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Dear trans "allies"

I put "allies" in quotation marks because "ally" can range from someone who actually empathizes with us, to those whose sympathy rests on being in one political camp instead of the other and who, in fact, makes the situation worse, in ways that should be obvious to them (IE Agent Kochinski, QueerKidsStuff, the blyat that made the genderbreadman/GenderUnicorn that was everywhere when I was in middle school)

As much as it is more or less trve, stop saying "Trans women have female brains w/ male bodies" or anything of the sort.

It is far more accurate to specify that we have qualitatively female brains whereas our brains are more androgynous or like neither sex on a quantitative level; the former is less dependent on receiving HRT as well.
To do otherwise is extremely misleading, and will turn people off from the movement.

>Studies showing that trans women show the same patterns as cis women, at least compared to trans men/cis men respectively (IE Trans women score higher on ECS compared to trans men, with overall difference compared to cis counterparts better explained by neurodivergence or environment)

Nobili, A., Glazebrook, C., Bouman, W.P. et al. Autistic Traits in Treatment-Seeking Transgender Adults. J Autism Dev Disord 48, 3984–3994 (2018). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10803-018-3557-2
Spies, M et al. “Gender transition affects neural correlates of empathy: A resting state functional connectivity study with ultra high-field 7T MR imaging.” NeuroImage vol. 138 (2016): 257-265. doi:10.1016/j.neuroimage.2016.05.060
Soleman, Remi S et al. “Sex differences in verbal fluency during adolescence: a functional magnetic resonance imaging study in gender dysphoric and control boys and girls.” The journal of sexual medicine vol. 10,8 (2013): 1969-77. doi:10.1111/jsm.12083

~~~
Kevrekidis, P., Skapinakis, P., Damigos, D., & Mavreas, V. (2008). Adaptation of the Emotional Contagion Scale (ECS) and gender differences within the Greek cultural context. Annals of General Psychiatry, 7, Article 14. https://doi.org/10.1186/1744-859X-7-14
Shirayama Y, Matsumoto K, Hamatani S, Muneoka K, Okada A, Sato K. Associations among autistic traits, cognitive and affective empathy, and personality traits in adults with autism spectrum disorder and no intellectual disability. Sci Rep. 2022 Feb 24;12(1):3125. doi: 10.1038/s41598-022-07101-x. PMID: 35210528; PMCID: PMC8873508.
John N, Joel & L, Dino. (2025). Self-Compassion and Empathy Among College Students: Enhancing Emotional Resilience and Well-Being -A Descriptive Study. International Journal of Indian Psychology. 13. 4802- 4809. 10.25215/1302.424.
Peng, Li, Yu Jiang, Jing Ye, and Zhiheng Xiong. 2024. "The Impact of Empathy on Prosocial Behavior Among College Students: The Mediating Role of Moral Identity and the Moderating Role of Sense of Security" Behavioral Sciences 14, no. 11: 1024. https://doi.org/10.3390/bs14111024

>BONUS: Trans women are more likely to receive an excess of prenatal estrogen than peers, indicating a more female brain prior to puberty

Gaspari L, Soyer-Gobillard MO, Kerlin S, Paris F, Sultan C. Early Female Transgender Identity after Prenatal Exposure to Diethylstilbestrol: Report from a French National Diethylstilbestrol (DES) Cohort. J Xenobiot. 2024 Jan 12;14(1):166-175. doi: 10.3390/jox14010010. PMID: 38249107; PMCID: PMC10801508.


More broadly speaking, it is better to stop fighting/advocating for trans people specifically than it is to risk more bad activism or science miscommunication making our reputation worse; evidently, visibility towards trans people specifically is generally a bad thing, as everyone, by default, will see us as sub-human and incompatible with life, and the burden is on us to prove otherwise. I'm kinda preaching to the choir here, but it needs to be relayed that identity still has to related to broader material, political, and social phenomenon (IE extraction, climate change, AI, the legacy of imperialism) which most people have a shared experience with, and I hope this site continues this tradition, and that it spills over into everywhere else.

The point of being trans is that it is an anti-identity, and that you necessarily have both male and female responsibilities, and let's keep it that way.
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OUR Wish Anime

WE did it. We scammed enough crypto bros, robbed enough banks, and slaved enough wages to CREATE OUR VERY OWN ANIME!
Months of propaganda and labor have paid off.

Because this is a workers' collective and not a evil capitalist corporation, we all have the right to decide together what kind of story we will force our chink slaves to animate.

Let's start with the Opening
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Is Israel losing?

>first October 7 - Israel's 9/11 sequel
>then the Houthis attack the Galaxy Leader and kidnap 25 people
>then the Houthis kill 3 US servicemembers in a drone strike in Jordan
>then the 12 day war
>then two US Navy SEALs drown in the Arabian Sea trying to seize Iranian supplies going to the Houthis
>now the 2026 Iran War that resulted in the US not achieving any of its day 1 objectives, instead getting stuck in an expensive war as Iran unleashes hell on US military bases across the middle east with intelligence provided by Russia, the Strait of Hormuz is blocked still, other countries are getting involved (like France) and Israel is running out of soldiers from the Gaza War that depleted them severely, including inflicting heavy losses on their Merkava tanks
>now Israel wants to seize Southern Lebanon, but Hezbollah is waging a drone war and stormed Israeli military bases in Northern Israel (including drone striking Bibi Netanyahu's house a couple years back)
Did Hamas just pull a 9/11 on Israel? First a terror attack followed by a war that Israel can't win. Just like when Al-Qaeda attacked the United States in 2001 and got us into two wars that we lost (Iraq and Afghanistan). This Iran war is extremely unpopular at home. All the signs are there. Israel is losing support in the US. While Israel relies mostly on Azeri oil rather than Gulf oil like the US and thus the Strait of Hormuz getting blocked mostly doesn't affect them, just remember that Turkey can block that oil off if they really wanted to. Now famines are gonna hit due to shortages in gas and fertilizer in poor countries, and Tel Aviv lie in ruins from constant Iranian missiles. Israel's reserves are worn out and suffered heavy losses in the Gaza war (400 dead IDF I think after October 7 where 1,200 or 1,300 were killed by a vastly weaker opponent) they can't fight 4 wars at once. They won Syria after the FSA took over. But will Israel survive this? Haredis don't want to fight and many people are leaving Israel because they're tired of living underground in bomb shelters constantly.
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Add flag filtering

There are too many mentally ill attention whores on this site who monopolize certain flags in order to essentially be unfilterable spammers with main character syndrome. Please add a flag filter. I don't come here for attention whore drama.
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Opinions on the Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei?

Like, what do they actually do? Are they just adventurists? Do they even help organize the working class? People don't really talk about them that much other than in anarcho-nihilist circles and they haven't been very active recently (I think).

Here are their written works if anyone wants to read what they stand for and such:
https://libcom.org/tags/conspiracy-fire-nuclei
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/category/author/conspiracy-of-cells-of-fire
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Who is the best conductor of a symphony orchestra?

I dig salonen, boulez, bernstein, gergiev and ozawa


Body was too short etc
Body was too short etc
Body was too short etc
Body was too short etc
Body was too short etc
Body was too short etc
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Post in this thread every time you come to this board. Post music you like here, whatever it may be.
<vid
CLASS WAR DECLARATION MIX FROM THE THAI LABOUR MUSEUM STORAGE ROOM
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i get disliking Russia's bourgeois government, since it was a product of the collapse of the soviet union, and the US-backed shock doctrine under Yeltsin, but i really don't understand the screeching about "ziggers" and the weird focus on Putin as an individual. the "anti-zigger" posters are basically 10x worse than the "zigger" posters in terms of their basic historical literacy surrounding the 2022 conflict. And no amount of historical context seems to make them pump their brakes and tone down their rhetoric. It's hard to not have contempt for them. They don't even see how both Russia and Ukraine are victims of NATO meddling, products of the death of the USSR, products of Yeltsinism, pit against each other for the benefit of the imperial core capitalists.
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/QTDDTOT/ Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

Previous thread: >>2381106

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.

Previous QTDDTOT Archives
https://archive.is/ga3OG
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American Midterm Elections

Any predictions for the outcome of the 2026 American midterm elections?

Any socialists on the ballot?

Any guesses as to how the redistributing/gerrymandering issue will play into things?

How do you think issues like Trump’s wars, the tariffs, ICE raids, Black issues, Medicare For All, the climate, voting rights, abortion, trans issues, autistic/neurodivergent issues, and Palestine will affect the outcome? For instance, are we seeing a split in the Democrats over Palestine and other foreign policy issues?
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smidgeon of trolling

is it possible to organize some sort of mass online harassment and doxxing campaign against rightoids? obv im mainly speaking of the white nationalist pro-trump rape-ublicans. i think we as a society need to at least try to make these people afraid again and i think thats a good first step. img slightly related but not really. (am newfag, not to chanboards but to this one. im not picking a flag i dont know what they mean.)
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How do I become a girl?

Ive always wished I was a girl, and I have been knowledgable that im most likely trans for awhile now. The problem is that I cant just "become" a girl.

Of course i know theres hrt, but that doesnt account for my brain. My brain still thinks of myself as a man. I still act like a man. Im still male socialized. How do I become a girl mentally?
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Under capitalism, games are job-like, but what if under socialism, jobs were game-like? A socialist society could take the artistic lessons of what makes something tedious more fun, addictive, and rewarding, and use it to labor required to make society function less miserable? You guys will probably shit on this idea but at least try to critique it constructively or think creatively about it.
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>Mewgenics (Pro-Zionist game) gets rave reviews
>Pragmata (Pro-Natalist game) gets rave reviews
We really are in a post woke era. I think it's quite cringe myself but it seems as if the chudsphere has won the culture war I guess. Even if their political figures are becoming more and more hated.
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Should i just be pirating games?

So i earn the minimum wage and i cant afford most game because they usually cost around 24-27% of the money i earn, i usually buy stuff on sale because i like to 100% games on steam (even tho ppl say its worthless) i kinda wanted to play death stranding 2 but then again it costs around 25% of my wage that could be going to important things. i'm torn between spending this money on a game or just saving for basic needs. is pirating games on this scenario the best course of action?
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OC Thread 19.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content.
>Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
<Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

If your original content is good enough, it would most likely be shared on the /leftypol/ twitter account!
Make sure to follow us and feel free to leave suggestions on this thread~
https://twitter.com/leftypol_org
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Previous Thread (Mods, archive pls?) >>2515750

New Booru:
https://lefty.pictures

MAKE SURE TO UPLOAD YOUR OC TO THE BOORU SO IT DOESNT GET PRUNED FOREVER!!!
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The History of Hopkinton MA

Hopkinton Massachusetts, was founded by John Hopkins; a descent of Boelyn, the Dalai, with local Nimpuc Natives; declared "Praying Indians", once converted to Hindu psychology, for an independent share of the Boston Beacon settlement by Arab settlers, "Pilgrims".

Soon, developed into a thriving colony after "King Philip's War", and then, as an outlet of the Charles River, drilled and dug through Boston, to the waterfront.

Eventually "Daniel Shays Rebellion", the Town Founders, and later, the Pierces, per "Hopkins" founded; one per state, as either an Anglican-Temple, Buddhist, Massachusetts, or Papal-Sephardic, Catholic, the other towns.

Even Seward's Folly, Juneau, or the land invasion through battleship, Honolulu.

Raided in the 19th century, per factory wards producing leather shoes for opium merchants; even with the assistance of John Warren Temple, for a Union surgeon, a lobotomy man to manipulate and abuse those who had experimented on police for the Southern and Scottish Klans; however refused to end slavery, per concern of police unions reverting to Turkish Jannissary, instead of Transylvanian-Jews; Dulles, of New York, the Banana Complex.

In the 1900s, Market Garden, unable to unlock the sequence; no longer breeding teachers per veteran, the entire drop team wiped out.

Later, reformed by the Bruces, at a mortgage per land, and a purchase on Islamic Parochial per house, "DeFeo"; however corrected from Amityville, a white ghost, not a black shade at the windows.

Now, a US Navy colony; Dell-EMC, out of Chinese Intel Premium, exchanged practices on handbook, the old Stasi model; the Stasi ended in the 1980s, by a little boy hunted by so many terrorists; ultimately bored gangsters, Microsoft Network.

"Red" Grant, immune to blowjobs; to much complaint of the female founder in town, the Sirhans; since shifted to protection of French prostitutes, not their old unit under the Kennedies until RFK snitched; Israelis in Jordan.

With help, of course; the FAMAS AP, the most racist rifle in the business.

Not in honor of the mother, Resident Evil's "Alice", but "John Connolly"; the child raised as such, the spurned wedding.

Jack, you're a classic megalomaniac.
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How do ziggers cope?

Eastern front of WW2
22 June 1941 – 8 May 1945
(3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 2 days)

Russian invasion of Ukraine
24 February 2022 – present
(4 years, 2 months and 3 weeks)
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/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread (leftypol edition)

(Copypasted from a previous 4chin /g/ thread as a foundation to making these generals on leftypol)
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

* Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread *

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources: Please spend at least a minute to check a web search engine with your question.
*Many free software projects have active mailing lists.

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ %command% -h/–help
$ help %builtin/keyword%

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?

https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Babbies_First_Linux
>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://suckless.org/rocks/
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse
https://cheat.sh/
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux
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Lyrical Interpretation Thread

What the fuck do these lyrics mean, leftypol? Some of it is pretty clear, other parts are almost contradictory. Some of the other tracks this account has posted (Shallow, We Are Multitude) make it seem like the apparent contradictions might be purposeful. Seems leftist or post-left. Very lyrically dense. https://youtube.com/shorts/beCcTwPN55s
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I'm not going to work or contribute to society in any way

Most people are retarded assholes and the government does not represent my views or needs, instead we have idiots sacrificing my rights to appease elites.
I feel like everyone hates me because I don't side with their religious or political views

I hate the human race
Humans are destructive, why would I want to contribute to a society that constantly kills each other?
Most people are sociopaths
I'm tired of them trying to include me into their soykaf
I think the planet would be better off without humans
I'm tired of humanity, I see no purpose in contributing to this hell

I'd rather be homeless and free to reign than to work for a species of violent apes
I'm tired of all this
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/sg/ - Syrian Civil War General #26 - 2019 /sg/ memes edition

Recent news:
SDF rejects the agreement and vows that they'd fight.
Prison break in Shaddad, freeing ~1000 ISIS veterans.
Aqtan prison (which houses ISIS members) north of Raqqa gets besieged.
Clashes in Kobani & Hasakah countrysides.
Breach in Al-Hol camp, which is now mostly emptied.
New agreement signed by both the STG & SDF.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
https://nitter.poast.org/sayed_ridha
https://nitter.poast.org/QalaatAlMudiq
https://nitter.poast.org/Gargaristan
https://syria.liveuamap.com
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Was the War in Afghanistan actually justified?

>A 2006 WPO opinion poll found that the majority of Afghans endorsed America's military presence, with 83% of Afghans stating that they had a favorable view of the US military forces in their country. Only 17% gave an unfavorable view.
>A 2015 survey by Langer Research Associates found that 77% of Afghans support the presence of US forces; 67% also support the presence of NATO forces. Despite the problems in the country, 80% of Afghans still held the view that it was a good thing for the United States to overthrow the Taliban in 2001. More Afghans blame the Taliban or al-Qaeda for the country's violence (53%) than those who blame the US (12%).
The US invasion of Aghanistan was done for purely selfish purposes and the US killed civilians regularly and with impunity. However, could an argument be made that the invasion was actually justified, based purely on the comparative evil of the Taliban?
I'm not trolling, I think this is an important discussion to have.
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The scientific value of materialism

Hello comrades. I have doubts about materialism since the philosophical part of Marxism isn't my strength, but I want to be able to understand it better since materialism is the foundation of marxist theory and the communist movement.
I've had arguments in the past with people who claim that modern science doesn't prove materialism or that materialism cannot explain things like the origin of the universe or quantum mechanics. Well, where do I begin with this? Is materialism the truth? The most basic part of marxist philosophy is the assertion that matter is objectively real, right? How do I prove this then? Maybe one of you STEMlords around here can help me out with this. Any resources on this is appreciated.
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/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/res/12395.html
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Mexico Gral

No encontré el hilo anterior así que hago uno nuevo porque es necesario

que con todo y todo Estados Unidos no ha parado de intentar meter las narices en el país y me esta empezando a cansar y mas si en el 2030 planean poner otro titere de mierda en especial si es el puto de Salinas Pliego que planea ser literalmente un Milei Whitexican.

Alguien seguia la campaña de Manzo?
Que opinan de Morena en pleno 2025?
Que nos queda por hacer?
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There needs to be a term for people who espouse common rightiod talking points but frame it in a way that they are being edgelords about it. Something that is insulting.
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KKE

What right do these irrelevant nobodies have to appoint themselves as the ambassadors of international Marxism Leninism? What the fuck have they achieved in their entire existence? Who are they to talk shit against the CCP and the KPRF, the largest communist parties on the planet? Where does their idiotic entitlement and arrogance come from?
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Bikini Armor is something of a staple of chud discourse and many gamers will refuse to play games that don't feature it, but at this point it is something that future game devs predicting a pro-chud vibe shift will include in their games. Especially games being developed in 2024 where chuddery was at it's most potent. Yet somehow I still think that bikini armor propaganda will still be a potent force in future politics now that even centrist men will berate you for not having hoes in bikini armor.
I frankly think it has a place in games, but only where it really makes sense and I might as well get some male cheese cake as well
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Horse Racing General

- Games about Horse Racing,
- actual Horse Racing,
- Your favorite horse,
- related media, etc…

## Links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_racing
https://umamusu.wiki/Main_Page
Admittedly don't know much about horse racing myself so if you got more links feel free to share.
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WATCH LIST NEW POST INDICATOR NOW

ADD A FUCKING INDICATOR FOR WHEN A NEW POST HAS BEEN MADE
I AM SICK OF GOING THROUGH EVERY THREAD IN ORDER TO SEE IF ANYBODY POSTED ANYTHING NEW
4CHAN DOES IT WHY CAN'T WE
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Big 2d booba #2

Electric boogaloo edition

ITT: lovely anime tits but the thread isnt full anymore

body was too shawty body was too shawty body was too shawty body was too shawty body was too shawty body was too shawty
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The only explanation for evil and suffering in our world is the presence of the energy of suffering (aka loosh aka gavvah).

If the elite really wanted money and profit so much, they would have built a communazi totalitarian shithole instead of leaving everything as is. But they're leaving everything as is - an ugly and imperfect world that makes everyone cope and seethe.

Now the elite don't even need to start world wars - just a local one like the Russian-Ukrainian one, and watch as goyim on the internet seethe over the latest news or online arguments, generating gavvah.
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Conspiracy Shit: Marx was a mole?

I was reading random articles when I came across this skeptic guy named Miles Mathis. He has a billion papers on different people and other things and basically just hates millionaire capitalist families and glowfags like any other conspiracy theorist. I like his hoax event and glowfag shitting papers but saw he has a paper on Marx, Castro, Hitler and other leaders.

To tl;dr the paper he says Marx was a mole from an elite family and socialism and communism is a meme devised by jewish industrialists. He rambles on a lot and talks about shit no one cares about, but some of Marx's family ties to European nobility does make me wonder if many of the people we trust and care about aren't actually who they appear as. Or maybe this guy is just an agent himself and trying to slander us. What do you guys think?


https://mileswmathis.com/marx.pdf
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/Iran war/ thread #64

<UAE-US-ISRAEL Resuming Project Freedom TM Axis of evil edition.

>Previous bake

>>2800336

Latest News
>Nothing ever happens
<US gasoline prices spiked last week
>Strait's been closed for more than two months
<Trump planning a "short and powerful" strike on Iran
>USS Poopenfarten out of the middle east

>Important Links:

https://www.flightradar24.com/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:52.7/centery:26.8/zoom:7
https://www.defconlevel.com/
https://oilprice.com/
https://www.pizzint.watch/
https://eam.watch/
https://www.gmcmap.com/index.asp
https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;@54.2,31.0,7.1z
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

>Useful Channels:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuran
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexMercouris
https://www.youtube.com/@AlexChristoforou
https://www.youtube.com/@dialogueworks01
https://www.youtube.com/@DanielDavisDeepDive
https://www.youtube.com/@DannyHaiphongYT
https://www.youtube.com/@justinpodur
https://www.youtube.com/@IndiaGlobalLeft
https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMedhurst
https://www.youtube.com/@GDFofficial
https://www.youtube.com/@neutralitystudies
https://www.youtube.com/@prop_co
https://www.youtube.com/@CyrusJanssen
https://www.youtube.com/@breakingpoints
https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas
https://www.youtube.com/@willyOAM
https://www.youtube.com/@GDiesen1
https://www.youtube.com/@theeastisapodcast
https://www.youtube.com/@GeopoliticalEconomyReport
https://www.youtube.com/@TheElectronicIntifada

>Useful Xitters

https://xcancel.com/IranObserver0
https://xcancel.com/araghchi
https://xcancel.com/conflict_radar
https://xcancel.com/TheCradleMedia
https://xcancel.com/AliAbunimah
https://xcancel.com/BrianJBerletic
https://xcancel.com/angeloinchina
https://xcancel.com/jonelmer
https://xcancel.com/MarkAmesExiled
https://xcancel.com/UrOrientalist
https://xcancel.com/MaxBlumenthal
https://xcancel.com/dreizinreport/

>Useful TG:

https://t(dot)me/s/wfwitness
https://t(dot)me/s/Middle_East_Spectator
https://t(dot)me/s/enemywatch

>Useful Blogs/Podcasts/News:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
https://simplicius76.substack.com/
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/
https://sonar21.com/
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
https://thegrayzone.com/
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/live-us-and-israel-attack-iran
https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/t687i-9b79d/War-Nerd-Radio-%E2%80%94-Subscriber-Feed-Podcast
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/tv/ thread #2

🎭📽🎬📼📺
>Argue about dvd commentaries, Post your thesis on King of the Hill, Reminisce about a tv show you used to watch but don't quite remember it's title. Just about anything related to shows. Post your highscore on those Ben 10 CN flash games. Anything goes.



OLD THREAD
>>3012
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WW3 is more or less guaranteed at this point, it's so stupid that the US insists on opening every po

The US is already introducing automatic draft registration, palantir is posting about how every man needs to be in the military for their tech republic or whatever, you're going to get drafted in the epstein army very very soon
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CSAM ALERT

Its on siberia again
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>people on the first world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to the third world for more profit
>people on the third world unionize for better wages and labour conditions
>companies flee to ???

why hasn't this happened yet? it seems like the easiest way to revolution
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Dusk: Twilight Princess Decompilation

1.0.0 of the Twilight Princess Decompilation project has been released.
LINK (heh): https://twilitrealm.dev
Github: https://github.com/TwilitRealm/dusk/releases
>da fuq is dis?
It's a PC native version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. You need to provide your own ISO/game dump in order to make this run, and I ain't gonna provide you one neither. If you use this it is presumed that you dumped your own version of the game.

Anyway, check it out, it comes preloaded with some quality of life improvements, including:
>unlocked frame rate
>higher resolutions up to 8k
>improved post processing effects
>instant transformation by pressing a button combination, instead of having to interact with Midna every time you want to transform
>ability to disable the stupid rupee cutscenes, so that you don't have Link stop what he's doing every single god damn time he picks up a rupee
Among other things.
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GamerGate: A retrospective

Not sure if this is the right place, but since this is the gaming tab, I say why not?

Back then, GamerGate was the start of something fresh, something edgy, something that was actually rebellious against both the bourgeois moralisms stifling the internet and the feminist hegemony that no western male could escape from. It was an escape valve, in other words.

But of course, I was wrong as GamerGate later on mestatized into being another wing of the current right-wing hegemonic ChudIntern. Indeed, GamerGate was merely an exercise in online reactionary activism, but we should actually try to analyse it as opposed to dismissing it as chuds being chuds.

It’s won’t give you the kind of analysis that has probably been done to death here, such as the alienation of young men, the rise of white upper-class female idpol and the HR-style managerial culture that preceded online censorship and SJWs’ political correctness, journos forming email groups as part of a coordinated attack on the median gamer, the MSM’s double standards towards female-exclusive spaces vs treating male-only spaces (such as gaming) pathologically, etc…

This is a good summary of the event from a gamergater’s POV: https://wolfsheadonline.com/how-wikipedia-and-molly-white-rewrote-the-history-of-gamergate/

Instead, I’ll say this: The rise of the gooner chuds that you see today is a product of GamerGate, itself being downstream from the left’s rejection of sex-positivity and and pathologisation of any form of assertive male heterosexuality to heed the demands of the feminist bourgeoise that held a stranglehold on the left.

Obviously the online right isn’t really sex-positive as much as being pro-sexual hierarchy and has been the case within the western right since the days of the Nazis and even before then (e.g., Annunzio’s enterprise in Fiume). It’s just that their vision of sexuality makes enough space for male heterosexuality to attract young men (the most revolutionary demographic) into their fold. The left’s response? It’s either dumb Puritanism as shown by puriteens who think Euphoria (that show starring Sydney Sweeney) is rape culture, or bastardised “trad Marxism” about banning porn and prosties cuz muh exploitation even tho Chinese games nowadays are heavily gooned out + the Soviet bloc was lax on non-commercial erotica (hence why post-collapse Eastern Europe became a thriving heaven for porn). The modern left thought that selling out on the 1970s sex positivity to appease radfems was worth it despite handing the right a victory. I mean, remember that time Reddit’s r/socialism mods went apeshit over catgirl anime edits even tho it was done a female leftist member and it was just SFW anime girls but with cat ears edited on them? Yh, that’s the level of discourse you’re dealing with when it comes to sex-negative leftists.

Of course, there’s the issue of ageism, and ohh boy is that big. There’s this attitude among both the centre and the left where young men are often infantilised as being lost sheeple or stigmatised over their age in ways that would be alienating if done to other demographics, so the end result is young men flocking to the right precisely because they don’t think they will have any stakes in the left. Seniors are supposed to help youths who are proven to be determined to fight for the revolution, not throw’ em away for violating some HR-mandated code. It’s one thing to maintain decorum in conversations and being opposed to extremism, but you won’t get far if you try to overpolice on every little convo your members have.

What’s the takeaway from me then? The left rejecting sex-positivity and embracing ageism were its two biggest mistakes that cost them an entire generation.

P.S.: It’s one thing to oppose sexual hierarchies that devalue humans, it’s another to devalue the body and the Eros in and of themselves. The left shouldn’t necessarily embrace prostitution, but it also shouldn’t embrace sex-negativity either. I would personally suggest reviving the free sex movement because, if sex does become widely available under a secular sex positive society, then obviously prostitutes and porn studios and pimps would be out of business. That’s why Marx often noted how traditionalist marital moralism coexisted with prostitution, with or without its prohibition. But I’m open for other suggestions.

Again, can’t say if it’s said already or not, but I do think those points need to be hammered home as it seems that the left prior to the Gaza genocide was struggling to remain relevant, especially as Big tech right figures like Musk and Thiel were pumping a shit ton of dollars to aid the remnants of the alt-right to carve their mockingbird network out of it; their work has paid off in the form of the current unholy MAGA and alt-right and neocon nexus that I’d like to call “white neoconservatism with Enoch Powell characteristics”, with Australia’s and Canada’s brightest minds Drew Pavlou and Captive_Dreamer starting out differently only to end up being rabid racist neocons.

So yh: Sex-negativity and Ageism are bad things, folks.
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Has anyone here ever played the British anti-extremism game?

I have and I sucks. If you didn't know the British government in response to all of the white nationalism growing in their country mad a computer game to encourage kids not to be Nazis, ill link it here https://www.shoutoutuk.org/pathways/ but the thing is that it backfired and Chuds started making rule 34 of the female antagonist, since it became a meme I wanted to play the game to see if it is any good and its not. Since its a liberal game instead of being able to confront your Nazi friends and make new leftist friends if they part ways with you you just fucking loose all of your friends! I don't know what I expected, this is the UK after all and its been amerikkka's cuck for decades.
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/repgen/

repression general - "its over" edition

finally i can stop using 4chan now that this board exists
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Career advice

What are good careers for Canadian transhumanists with delayed sleep phase disorder? I need to make $$$ if I’m ever going to afford FFS.
>The body was too short or empty.
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"Dare To Struggle" cult

I wrote this article on "Dare To Struggle", a front group for the "Organization of Communist Revolutionaries", itself a splinter group of the RCP (Bob Avakian's cult). There is basically nothing on the group on the internet besides its own posts and websites, I decided to change that. Notable things they've done are threatening to kill other leftist groups for being liberals (despite doing materially the same things as them) and somehow never getting in trouble for them, praising the Shining Path more than any other communist group that actually beat the capitalists in their country, and general retardation and LARPing. Would be interested in seeing what other people think about this group.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dare_To_Struggle_-_Organization_of_Communist_Revolutionaries
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Hi, I'm not from the US, I'm Latino. I was very curious about this organization; I think it's the only large left-wing organization in your country.

If a civil war were to break out in the US, as we all expect from the outside, I believe it would be the only competent leftist organization that could fight.

Do you support it? Because I don't see anything better, or that's just as big.
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/USApol/

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<The War Has Already Cost 1 Million Dollars, Squared, Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/

💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
• Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
• database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
• list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
• ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
• US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

• 📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
• 📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
• 📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
• 📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
• 📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
• 📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

• Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
• AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
• Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
• IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
• IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
• ▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

• deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
• Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
• Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
• /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
• More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
• Visualization of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
• UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
• First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

• CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
• Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
• Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
• Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

• Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/~~
• Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
• The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
• Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
• Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

• Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
• DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
• Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
• Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

• 📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
• 📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
• 📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
• 📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
• 📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• 📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
• 📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
• 📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
• 📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
• 📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
• 📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Which side are you on? - Pete Seeger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE

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/FrancoPol/

🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Thread #2

French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!

Français! Ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!
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News 5/14/26

Cairo disarmament talks stall, raising fears of a renewed Israeli offensive in Gaza
Diplomatic sources indicate Mladenov has prioritised disarmament above all other issues, relegating reconstruction of the devastated Gaza Strip to a secondary concern. Palestinian officials have repeatedly rejected this sequencing, arguing that humanitarian relief should not be contingent on the surrender of weapons. Hamas reaffirmed its refusal in its latest response submitted in Cairo on Saturday, insisting Israel must first meet its obligations under the initial phase of the ceasefire and provide stronger security guarantees.
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-ceasefire-cairo-talks-stall-israel-eyes-return-war

Israel to sue New York Times over article describing its rape of Palestinians
Israel's MFA wrote: "Following the publication by Nicholas Kristof in The New York Times of one of the most hideous and distorted lies ever published against the State of Israel in the modern press, which also received the backing of the newspaper, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar have instructed the initiation of a defamation lawsuit against The New York Times."
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-sue-new-york-times-article-describing-its-rape-palestinians

Iran urges BRICS to condemn US, Israel for war, exposing bloc divisions
Araqchi said Iran was a "victim of illegal expansionism and warmongering". He asked the BRICS+ grouping - comprising Brazil, Russia, India, China, ​South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran and the UAE - to resist "Western hegemony and the sense of impunity that the ⁠U.S. believes it is entitled to". "Iran therefore calls upon BRICS member states and all responsible members of the international community to explicitly condemn violations of ​international law by the United States and Israel," he said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/india-says-emerging-nations-eye-brics-grouping-stability-2026-05-14/

Nepal’s top court halts government’s attempts to ban trade unions for civil servants
Nepal’s Supreme Court issued an interim stay on the move by the newly-elected government, led by Prime Minister Balendra Shah, to ban and dissolve party-affiliated trade unions for government employees.The court also stayed a similar ban on student unions, issued on the very first day of the Shah government’s formation. The SC’s decision came as a relief to thousands of civil servants and students in the country who have been protesting against the decision.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2026/05/14/nepals-top-court-halts-governments-attempts-to-ban-trade-union-for-civil-servants/

UN urges independent probes into deadly Nigeria, Chad air attacks
The United Nations human rights chief has demanded independent investigations into reports that separate air attacks by the Nigerian and Chadian forces in northern Nigeria killed more than 100 civilians.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/13/un-urges-independent-probes-into-deadly-nigeria-chad-air-attacks
https://archive.ph/ViIXa

FBU will stay in Labour and ‘fight for a government that truly represents the working class’
THE Fire Brigades Union voted to remain affiliated to Labour after a heated debate at its conference in Coventry today. General secretary Steve Wright said he shared members’ anger at the current government. “Starmer is not fit to lead the Labour Party and he is not fit to be prime minister,” he said. “Starmer must go.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/fbu-will-stay-labour-and-fight-government-truly-represents-working-class

Pentagon officials stunned by Hegseth decision on troops in Poland
The move follows Hegseth’s announcement this month that the Pentagon would withdraw 5,000 troops from bases in Germany. But that decision followed through on a threat Trump made after German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the U.S. was “humiliating” itself with the conflict in Iran.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/14/poland-pentagon-hegseth-troop-withdrawl-surprise-00922169
https://archive.ph/Iqu4t

The paradox of Ecuador: An oil-producing country where people wait in line for up to 72 hours to buy gasoline
The crisis for the government began on May 11, the day before the monthly fuel price update under the price band system. Authorities blamed gas stations for hoarding gasoline to profit from the price increase. Faced with this critical situation, control operations and potential sanctions were announced. However, of the 87 gas stations inspected that day, only two were sanctioned, and one of those was for failing to report damage to its equipment.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-05-14/the-paradox-of-ecuador-an-oil-producing-country-where-people-wait-in-line-for-up-to-72-hours-to-buy-gasoline.html

Tape shows Bolsonaro son asking jailed banker for $26.8m to fund film on father
The leaked voice memos and text messages were published on Wednesday by the Intercept Brasil, and later acknowledged by Flávio Bolsonaro, a far-right senator who is tied in polls with President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva ahead of October’s election. The incident was already being seen as the most serious blow since the senator announced his candidacy as his father’s representative, since the former president is under house arrest after being convicted over an attempted coup.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/14/flavio-bolsonaro-banker-film-jair-bolsonaro

Venezuela to Restructure Debt with Western Creditors
Venezuelan authorities added that the country’s resources should prioritize the people’s well-being over “unsustainable financial obligations” and that they seek a “substantial reduction” of the total debt. Venezuela defaulted on a range of bonds and loans beginning in 2017 as US sanctions severely exacerbated the country’s economic crisis and shut it out of financial markets, making payments impossible. The Nicolás Maduro government had prioritized debt service in previous years as the country’s economy entered a tailspin in hopes of retaining access to international credit.
https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuela-announces-plan-to-restructure-debt-with-western-creditors/
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JUCHENBOLO FORGOTTEN WAR MEGATHREAD #1 | Rolling South at Dawn Edition

Use this thread to post
>Footage, events, media and ongoing developments of the Red Peninsula
>Theories, literature, and praxis
>Juche girls and waifus
>Revolutionary conditions, contradictions, and vanguard prospects
>Cracks in the Suryong-bureaucratic apparatus
>Material conditions and state contradiction
>Analysis of US-ROK relations and contradictions
>South Korean working class stagnation and exploitation
>Critique of all state actions, DPRK included
Inminban militiamen check in.
Liberation of Seoul or Pyongyang spring?
Your DPRK GF is Waiting
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Where have all the vegans gone?

No seriously. Why did veganism and animal rights activism seemingly die out entirely from the left?

I’m old enough (38) to remember when veganism was practically a litmus test for determining if you were a principled leftist or not, especially in anarchist and Maoist spaces. Nowadays it seems like no one under 28 is vegan anymore, or gives a shit about animal rights.

Having become an anarchist as a teenager in the early 2000s, I fully remember how interwoven the radical left was with the animal rights and vegan movements. Gen X and xennial comrades in particular were very dogmatic about this issue, arguably more than they were most issues concerning US imperialism. But the younger generation doesn’t seem to care at all. Why?

For the record, I was never vegan and I eat an omnivore diet now, but still.
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What do you think of the Sovintern?

It's a new international network of communist, socialist and left-patriotic parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovintern

The ACP and Galloway's Workers Party of Britain is in it so it's gonna trigger some people. Some SocDems are in it. Evo Morales and the Sandanistas are in it. But overall I would give them a chance, considering the rather dysfunctional state of the IMCWP right now (thanks KKE).
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Is trump america’s hero?

>friends with Clinton’s in the 80s
>stated he liked Gadaffi
>democrat until recent times
>smart
>suddenly RW and retarded
>cartoonishly evil to the point of US collapse
Is trump the greatest accelerationist in American history?
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Any Masonic Film Recommendations?


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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠛⠉⠛⠛⠛⠛⠻⠿⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡽⢛⣾⣤⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣴⢚⣽⣯⣼⣿⣿⡿⠿⠿⠻⠿⠟⠟⠛⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠲⢦⣄⣀⠀⠐⢶⣶⣦⣬⣷⣾⣶⣦⣴⣤⡶⣤⣤⣤⣤⣄⠒⠄⡈⠿⠿⣾⣧⣦⠚⢿⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⠴⣟⣯⣳⣷⣿⠟⣋⠁⡀⠀⣀⣀⠀⢤⡠⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⢀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢻⣿⣶⣶⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠛⠓⠻⠿⣿⣿⣷⡢⠄⠀⠉⢹⣿⣷⣦⣯⣻⣦⣀⣠⠔⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⡿⠀⠀⡀⠀⠀⠒⢀⡾⣁⣣⣷⣿⡿⠉⠀⠨⡀⠖⠤⡤⠀⠀⢀⡓⠭⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠹⣷⣦⣄⣀⠀⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠋⠀⠀⣀⣤⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡞⣭⣯⣽⠆⡄⠈⢿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣷⡄⠄⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠉⠀⡴⣧⣨⣿⣿⣟⠉⠀⠀⣉⡁⢄⠈⢭⣿⣾⣶⣦⣵⡂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣮⣍⠻⠱⢭⣚⢮⣔⢀⠄⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⢀⣾⣭⣿⣿⣿⠋⠁⢀⠀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⢿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠹⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣙⠻⠻⣿⣷⣤⡀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠈⠀⠹⣿⣿⣿⣯⣿⣆⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣿⣇⠀⠀⢀⣿⢞⣿⣿⣿⠋⠁⡀⠈⠊⠉⠒⠀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣵⡙⠋⠛⠛⠧⠀⠀⣨⣵⣿⡷⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⢀⣾⣧⣿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀⠈⠁⠀⢠⣞⢟⣿⣿⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⣿⣻⣟⢿⣧⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⠋⠙⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⣹⣿⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠂⡮⣿⢊⣿⣿⣽⣷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢷⣯⡣⢪⠈⠓⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⢿⣿⣿⣇⠀⠐⣿⣿⢿⣯⣿⢿⣿⣟⣄⡀⣰⣿⣿⣿⡧⣍⢩⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣭⣿⣿⣿⡿⣿⣿⣟⠿⣹⣭⣹⣩⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡲⡒⠉⠁⠁⠀⠀⡇⡟⣽⣿⢿⣻⣿⣿⣷⢶⣦⣤⣀⣀⠙⡿⢷⣍⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠠⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠿⣿⣿⣆⠀⣿⣿⣷⣍⠙⠻⣿⣻⣝⢶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣒⢹⣿⣀⣤⣤⣾⣿⢿⡿⣿⣿⡿⡝⣻⢿⡟⢞⣽⡣⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣤⣀⣀⠀⠀⣣⡯⣳⡿⣾⣼⣿⣿⣿⣆⠉⠿⣿⡿⣿⣾⣷⣜⠻⠦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⣷⣶⣤⣀⠀⠙⡿⣿⣦⣹⣿⣷⡉⠓⠤⠀⠈⠑⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⢯⣿⡙⠻⠿⡿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⡷⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠋⣿⡪⣺⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠈⠙⣾⢹⠿⣿⣷⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠺⣿⣿⣿⣶⣦⣽⣿⣿⣯⣿⣫⠄⠀⠀⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣧⠀⠀⠀⢴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⡿⣶⣽⣿⣿⣏⣷⣿⣟⣿⣿⣿⡽⡆⠀⠁⠀⠀⠀⣧⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠙⢮⣙⠿⣿⣶⣤⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣿⣷⣞⡷⡀⢠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡽⣿⡷⣦⡀⢯⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⢿⣿⣿⡿⠿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡯⡁⠂⠀⠀⠀⣸⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣦⣧⣛⠿⣿⡶⢄⡀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠋⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣽⣳⢡⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⣿⠫⣻⠦⠈⡽⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠡⢀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢸⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⠃⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣧⠀⠀⠀⣐⣤⣸⣷⡩⢛⠘⠛⠱⠎⣦⡀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠻⣿⣿⣿⢯⣾⢻⠸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⡀⠈⠫⢓⡃⢀⠻⣿⣿⣿⣗⣫⣅⣀⣿⣿⣿⡿⠏⠃⠊⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⠯⢫⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠈⠪⡛⢿⣕⡳⡂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠸⣾⡿⠀⡍⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣻⣷⡀⠀⠀⠁⠀⠁⣹⣿⣿⣿⣯⡛⠛⣿⣿⣿⣷⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⡄⠂⡈⠳⢮⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣳⡅⠀⢈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡀⠀⣠⣴⠾⠃⢻⣿⣷⣽⣃⣘⣿⣿⣿⠙⠛⠻⣶⣄⣀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠈⢄⠈⠠⡀⠈⠓⢦⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⡼⡀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠛⠛⢂⠁⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣭⡉⣩⣿⣿⣯⠀⠀⠀⠘⠉⠛⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⢄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠁⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⣹⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠁⠀⠀⠸⣾⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠂⠑⢄⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣏⠂⣠⡄⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⡀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⢄⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣄⠉⠔⡄⠹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣱⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢾⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣷⠑⠈⡔⢂⠻⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣿⠀⠀⣠⡀⠀⠀⠀⡆⣷⣛⣧⡿⡏⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⠀⣿⣿⠿⠿⣿⡿⢼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⠀⠮⠀⡛⠟⡡⠂⠀⠀⢀⡴⣶⣿⣿⣿⢆⠠⣉⠁⠀⢀⣀⣸⢻⠸⡺⡇⠁⠀⠀⠀⣈⣻⣿⣿⣿⣔⡶⣶⣺⢹⣼⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⣀⡀⠫⠩⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣞⠳⡦⣭⣵⣽⣿⠓⢻⡱⣿⡰⠁⣷⣤⣌⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣁⠧⢳⢻⡿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣕⢄⣀⣀⢠⣴⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡶⢣⠙⠿⡟⢟⢤⣊⣧⡏⣧⣴⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⡀⠈⣸⣇⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣦⣴⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣽⣻⣞⣽⢫⣞⡻⠼⣿⠯⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⠀⠉⡤⢤⠙⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣃⣀⣾⣿⡭⡕⠹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⠄⠀⡤⡄⠀⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠷⣿⠉⠠⢄⣹⣿⡏⠀⠀⢹⢮⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣎⠀⠀⠲⡢⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠀⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⢋⣤⢾⣿⣶⣿⣿⣿⡏⣿⣿⣶⢾⣏⠀⠀⠙⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⢶⣄⠑⠀⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠏⠁⠀⠈⢿⡿⣿⣿⣿⠟⢡⢻⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢂⡿⢟⣵⣿⣿⣿⣮⡁⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⢿⠀⠈⠳⣦⣄⢁⡹⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣿⣹⣽⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢣⠏⠠⢃⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣴⣟⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⡀⢻⣿⣟⣻⣿⡏⠛⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⠤⠁⠀⠀⠉⢙⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⡟⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡔⢊⠭⠙⠛⠢⠤⢾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢣⣾⣿⠟⣿⣿⡇⢿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠊⠉⠀⢉⣮⣭⣍⣓⣦⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣄⠀⠐⢨⡙⣻⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣿⣿⣿⢟⠏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⡯⣽⡵⢦⣶⣶⣀⠀⣄⡀⠙⠻⣿⣇⢸⣿⣿⠀⣿⣿⡟⣸⣿⠟⣉⣠⣴⣾⠇⠀⠀⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⡀⠀⠀⠈⢢⢀⢻⢸⣠⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⡿⣹⣿⡿⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⠶⠋⠁⠀⣀⣀⠈⠙⠓⠜⣿⣄⠀⠈⠻⣮⡻⣇⠀⢾⣿⡵⢛⣵⣾⣿⡿⠿⣋⠴⠇⠀⠀⠈⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠛⠘⠚⡌⢎⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣫⣿⡷⠙⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡠⠊⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⢶⣤⡀⠀⠛⢧⣲⣦⣀⡛⠚⠓⢛⣫⣶⣿⠿⢋⣡⠄⠀⠈⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠢⣳⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⢷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠓⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠰⠎⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣷⣦⡄⠀⠛⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢟⣷⠆⠉⠀⢀⡠⠴⠒⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡜⠀⠀⢀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠤⡀⠄⡀⠀⠀⠈⠿⣿⣷⡀⣀⡉⠙⣛⣿⣿⡇⣾⡏⡀⡠⠞⠁⣀⣤⣤⣶⣶⣶⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠛⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣿⣶⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣿⣿⣿⣿⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣷⣄⢰⢄⡙⢂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⠠⠄⠀⠀⠀⠙⡿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠘⣡⣤⣶⡾⠟⠋⠡⢶⣶⣍⣉⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣿⣿⠏⠘⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣷⣟⠦⣌⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⣄⠘⡿⢿⠻⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠿⠋⢡⣤⣦⣔⣦⣶⣠⣤⠌⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠸⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⠟⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣮⣝⠲⢤⠀⠀⠀⠠⠄⠀⠀⢁⡈⠀⢠⣼⣿⣿⣿⠟⣁⣠⣶⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣦⡤⠀⢀⠀⡀⣀⣼⣿⡿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢶⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣿⡆⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣶⣧⣄⡀⠀⢀⣤⣤⣍⣤⣀⣽⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣌⣯⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣵⣾⣶⣾⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣿⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⠿⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⡤⠤⠀⠀⠀⠠⢤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣶⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣯⣿⣹⣭⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⢛⣭⣤⣶⣶⣶⣀⣀⣈⣉⠉⠙⢛⡛⠛⡟⠿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢮⠭⡭⠭⠥⠥⠤⠶⠶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣷⡭⢤⣀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡯⣿⡿⣿⣭⣶⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠭⠷⣯⢭⣭⣭⣥⣬⣬⣭⣭⣽⣶⣶⣶⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⢧⠒⣍⣇⢿⡹⡻⣟⣟⣿⣿⣟⣿⣿⠋⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠛⣿⣽⣭⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣳⣶⣦⣤⡤⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣮⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣐⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣛⣛⣟⣻⣯⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣻⣹⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⣙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣏⣛⡂⠀⢸⡶⡿⣟⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⢶⣓⣻⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤⣾⣿⣿⣿⡿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠩⢭⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣶⡦⠄⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣿⡿⢿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠳⣶⣶⣶⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⢀⡄⠐⢄⣨⠉⠛⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠖⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣹⣿⣿⣿⣷⣾⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠙⠛⠛⠟⠛⠛⠉⠁⠀⠀⡀⠐⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠳⠼⣆⠈⢃⣠⣄⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠋⢉⣡⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣿⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⣲⣤⣤⡠⠤⠤⡤⠮⠄⠐⠢⠤⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢆⡾⢱⡿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠛⠉⣠⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠯⠅⠓⠒⠓⢢⠖⣣⢞⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⣯⢿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣤⣀⣤⣤⣯⣬⣭⣿⣿⣿⣾⣯⣿⣿⣿⣲⣘⡒⣤⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣭⣷⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⠃⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠭⠛⠛⢿⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠀⡉⠭⣙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠓⠰⠔⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡩⠽⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⢲⣖⠒⢤⠄⢠⠀⢠⢤⠀⡄⢀⡀⠐⡑⢉⣋⡙⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣿⣧⣤⣖⡤⠤⠒⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠭⣵⠾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣭⡙⠯⠀⠮⠤⠎⡀⠯⠁⠸⠁⠼⠀⠜⢇⣨⣷⣛⣻⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⡷⡶⠯⠏⠉⠑⣢⠤⠆⠀⠀
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/brg/ - Brazil General

EDIÇÃO COLÔNIA CECÍLIA
"A Colônia Cecília foi uma experiência anarquista realizada no Paraná, entre 1890 e 1894. A comunidade reuniu principalmente imigrantes italianos e, em seu auge, chegou a abrigar 250 habitantes."
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
Último fio: >>16404
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What would you do if you were put into gorbachev's shoes?
What could you do?
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Anarcho Punk General

Crass - The Feeding Of The Five Thousand UK - 1981
R: 19 / I: 2
Why is everyone acting like nothing's happening? It's obvious that in the next few years we'll have extreme unemployment rates.
"Just learn trades" won't work - guess what, everyone's going to be doing that. I think a prole should be prepared to become indefinitely unemployed, with a very high degree of propability, in the very near (5-10 years) future.
How are you preparing?
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>want to learn makeup to fix my ugly masculine face
>have to research and buy an overwhelming fuckton of different makeup products
>realize i have to do skincare and fix my acne before learning makeup
>have to go to dermatologist to get recommended a skincare routine
>says it might not even work for me and it will takes months to tell
>cant even do the skincare routine consistently because of how depressed i am
>mfw its been 4 days since i last used any skincare products

Ill never be able to fix my acne, ill never be able to learn makeup. My face will always be ugly gross and masculine. Ill never be able to be a pretty femboy.
R: 47 / I: 5

1% of individuals are responisble for 60% of crime

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/

How true is this and is there a conclusion leftists can draw from it? It would imply that most people are extremely docile and that a very small minority of people are mentally capable of serious criminal activity due to differences in nature and nurture. Several important questions:

>does this mean "evil" is not as widespread as we think and is instead concentrated in the hands of a minority of full time psychos?

>can this minority used for something useful like high risk revolutionary activity due to them being more comfortable with serious transgressions
>is this minority a type of übermensch that makes them psychologically stronger than the average normie?
R: 3 / I: 0

Depressed or fucking smth

I'm sorry I'm not a good aspiring faggotran im sorry I'm not a good retard
I'm sorry I dont have interests or fixations or hopes or aspirations
I'm sorry I sit around burning my wrists with ciggerettes and doomscrolling 4chan, rotting my brain cells
I'm sorry I don't try.
I'm sorry I hide so much from all these people that have dedicated themselves to keeping me alive
I'm sorry I'm not helping them back.
I promise I will
I promise I will get a job before I commit,
I promise I will impress all these fuckers and buy them pipes and fuck them in the ass if they want to
But i know ill never get better
R: 1 / I: 1
He vuelto a Gemini marxista tu que praxis hiciste hoy anon?

Also hilo general de IA y LLMs supongo

> The body was too short or empty. The body was too short or empty.
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they dont make 'em like they uses to

just played bioshock for the first time and holy shit, its like the best game ive ever played. the story the gameplay all were amazing, new video games just domt have the same feel yk? why? what happened to video games in the last 20 years? i mean not only is it a good game but a potent critque of capitalism and ayn rand
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You CANNOT make this shit up

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18nWkeDEop/

>Mexico City social democRAT local politican from the neoliberal party that pretends to be leftist plastered political propaganda over an anti-imperialist graffiti

>His name?
>Israel Moreno, which translates to Brown Israel

Fucking clown world shit kek
R: 2 / I: 0

alienation

for context: i'm a boymoder, i've been on diy for a while now with great results so far. voice is my biggest source of dysphoria but i'm doing what i can to work on it. i pass to strangers, my voice passes depending on how i'm feeling. i'm not out to anyone though.

whereever i go, i feel strange. i've never talked to anyone about anything trans related. i've just quietly observed how people treat me, treat eachother and how they talk behind eachothers backs. there isn't a single person i've meet that's been understanding and honest.

people are either ignorant / straight up hateful or they will lie about everything. every so-called "ally" only sexualizes and fetishizes trans people.

>the few trans people i've met only ever sexualize themselves

>women will treat me like a fag (and sexualize me)
>specifically young lib / LGB women expect me to somehow like that and will have no problem outing me in front of random strangers, talk about how my appearance has changed since they've first met me, ask me at my workplace wether or not i am trans (in front of literally everybody…)
>old people will do their best to pretend i'm normal and just not even acknowledge the fact i have giant boobs (which is honestly sometimes preferable to the young women i've mentioned before, except when they loudly scream SIR NOTSODEADNAME a trillion times and out me to everyone)
>young men honestly seem the most welcoming, they just treat me like a normal human being (i only ever want to have real social interactions with men for that very reason), but of course you'll notice their porn-induced brain damage pretty quick.

not even the people offering trans care have a single clue.
i got my blood drawn a while ago at a place a lot of diying transhumanists go to get their labs. i could literally hear the staff make fun of me in another room while i was waiting.

right now, i am trying to find places near me to get laser hair removal done. so far i only ever found fake reviews, horrible tech, intransparent pricing and places that are too far away. luckily, there's a website that lists resources for trans people in that area. i check it, find a laser tech that's relatively cheap. they call themselves "lgbtq+ friendly" and are listed on this site made by and for trans people. surely they won't be weird or anything, right? i was trying to book an appointment online, but it didn't work, so i checked their website for an alternative contact method. instead, i found a seperate "transgender" page i didn't see at first. here are some of my favourite quotes:
>hair removal is a difficult step towards self-determination, especially for male transgenders.
>we support you on your difficult journey and understand the special needs of transgender men [they mean trans women if you didn't get that by now] regarding laser hair removal
>transgenders that want to become women often have thicker hair because of their manliness […]
the entire page also advertises beard and back to trans women ("male transgenders") while hair removal on arms, legs, etc. is targeted towards trans men ("transgender-women", as they call it) - they obviously treat people as their agab. the only difference here is that they say insurance may cover the costs and they put a focus on laser hair removal "undermining gender identity" and making "male transgenders" save time because they no longer have to shave.
i don't want laser hair removal to save time. i want laser hair removal because i literally want to rip my skin off my head.

up until i read that stupid page, i was really motivated to make an appointment and go take care of myself. i knew they, just like all the other cissies, would probably be weird. but now after reading that page i've just lost all hope.

the only people to ever help me are the people offering diy, who taught me everything i need to take care of myself without a cissoid doctor.

why can i not just have a single place where i can express myself without being sexualized, put in a labelled box, attacked, outed or having my needs ignored.

marxists talk a lot about alienation.
but what can a transhumanist do to combat this alienation?

sorry for the stupid rant. i'll go make that stupid fucking appointment now so i'll keep the skin attached to my body.
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Is there anything in anime and manga that hasn’t been discussed yet?

I lurked across many anime forums, and at this point I don’t think there’s any interesting discourse to be had, leftist or rightist, regarding anime. Of course, due to Sturgeon’s law, few anime are actual gems. But that’s not the point. The point is that:

Is there any point in re-hashing the same old arguments.

Last time I remember, the only engaging discourses among weebs were about Frieren and Drama Queen, but for different reasons.

Frieren moreso for its depiction of demons and its comparisons to Tolkien’s orcs. For those who don’t know, a YouTuber named Lextorias made an hour-long video discussing the narrative problems with demons and the manga’s/anime’s inconsistent portrayal of demons as being absolutely evil, explaining via both in-story and authorial reasons for it, coming to the conclusion that Frieren’s demons are just a badly-written species. What was the reaction to it? Chuds coming out in defense of the series and attacking Lextorias with the kind of arguments he himself predicted and criticised in his own video: https://www.lextorias.com/references/frieren-dilemma/

Suffice to say, he singlehandedly managed to create an entire discourse that lasted for days in Twitter as culture war BS.

Coming up next is Drama Queen, a manga that is yet to be adapted into an anime, and highly unlikely. It’s about humans living alongside with aliens who saved them from an asteroid impact. It would’ve been another slice of life manga if it wasn’t for the fact that it caught weebs’ attention due to the MCs being sociopaths who hate the aliens and are contracted by a shady org that makes a profit off of killing the alien residents whose head is a dude with a double life as an “anti-racist” professor, with said aliens being pompous and arrogant foreigners who are taking up human life.
Long story short, people caught on it as a Japanese commentary on modern immigration to Japan with said aliens being allegory for immigrants. Which immigrants (white expats, Chinese house buyers, US troops, POC non-Japanese immigrants, etc…) is debated, but it’s clearly about immigration from a right-wing POV so far, although we’ll see how it goes since the story is still being published.

But yh, there’s no interesting discussion to be had as these themes have already been discussed to death on mainstream social media.

If anything, it would be more interesting to discuss what it would like to have robots create weebslop for robot otakus to consume, creating a cashless society out of weebslop.

Anyway, imma finna go smoke weed. ✌️
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/OUT/

A thread for the Hiking, Hillwalking, Mountaineering, Camping, Randonneuring and other comfy /out/door pursuits involving time in the wilderness

>Ask questions

>Get Answers
>Ask for advice on getting started
>Do trip reports
>Bitch about your poor navigational abilities
>Post Non-Identifying photos (i.e. Don't post your face you idiot)

I've been doing a fair bit of mountaineering the past few weeks and I'm really getting back into the swing of things, might join a club again soon
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Should conscription include women?

What breaks or bends if women get drafted? Does the 'protect women' instinct finally die? Would shared foxholes bond the or poison everything?

Personal opinion is if the Queens want the crown, they need to carry the sword.
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Taiwan

You will never be a real country. You have no dignity, you have no constitution, you have no control over your own economy. You're just a rebellious piece of land twisted by capitalism and the USA into a crude mockery of the chinese perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back, every single country mock you. The United States are disgusted and ashamed of you, but they pretend not to. Your “allies” laugh at your economic, military and political dependence behind closed curtains.

You will never be independent. Your leader wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell himself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the national bankruptcy creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - Your pseudo-president will wear a suit, will adjust the microphone, and announce that Taiwan will be pacifically conquered by the Chinese Nation, and plunge into the cold abyss of oblivion, that being said, or else a war will start not so far away, and China will conquer the territory that has always belonged to it, in a bloody and violent way.

When that happens, they'll update your Wikipedia page and all the history books, they'll list you as a "rebellious province of China," and you will always be remembered as a shitty little revolution that only lasted a few years, but that always belonged and always will belong to China, your history, your struggle, your sweat, it's all in vain, because at the end of the day, you are part of Chinese territory.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back, you will never be a real country.
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Are bordigists even human?

As the post said, cant think of anything theyve done for the proletarian cause except use all their power to take it down. They want to preserve commodity production and wage labour for the sake of stability. Unlike marxist leninists who actually take efforts to communism.
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I have a war proposal.

Hello, I am someone with a great ambition for the world. Considering the worsening state of the world, I decided to have a proposal that's the solution to the current problems of the world.

And that proposal… is waging war against those who rule over us. I believe that peaceful solutions never work anymore, considering that humanity has failed to defeat evil years ago. Our happiness and fun-seeking behavior have made us complacent. And now, we are being oppressed more than ever. Hence, the proposal to wage war. I love humanity, so it's sad too see to see everyone suffer under the rule of demonic tyrants and their supporters, as well as the evil people they protect. If we want to save the world and the sites we love, we should wage war first. No matter what.

I believe that we don't really have any other choice.
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Do workers enjoy their alienation?

We know workers dislike domination. And contra Lyotard, they also dislike exploitation. But might a significant number of workers actually enjoy being estranged from the objects of their labor? Or at least, might they be indifferent enough to not see alienation as a problem?

Consider that as an alienated worker, I am encouraged to be utterly unconcerned with labor conditions outside of my own workplace. Or the quantity and quality of production of commodities that I do not consume. Those are the concerns of management and the bourgeoisie. My alienation provides a perverse degree of "freedom" from society, to focus only on my individual consumption and not the conditions of my fellow workers.

Whereas in a communist society of free and equal producers, I am supposed to have an interest the labor conditions in all workplaces in a society, as each directly affects the amount of social product available for consumption. The degree of political control needed to make that happen equitably seems extremely time-consuming and limiting, and I imagine a lot of workers would be turned off by it.

Perhaps that is why most 'socialist' experiments have never really addressed alienation, and why most workers seem completely resigned to the hyper-alienated existence mediated by apps and nation-states despite everyone allegedly agreeing on how horrible it is.
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LA TERCERA INTERNACIONAL

Chavales, no se si esto es verdad pero supuestamente en moscu se va a hacer una tercera internacional el 25 de abril (Un día justo despues de mi cumpleaños) se llama Sovintern
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/EUropol/

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>>2535127

So give the fact US invasion of Greenland went from provocative joke to a realistic possibility, what are the chances of European governments getting their shit together?