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Hello, /leftypol/!
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>>2939613
bro i wish i were getting free healthcare or something. instead i get you burning down the rainforest to complain about deng xiaoping



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the civil war


<You're an Indian Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
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Would you use a single tide pod to wash an entire motel's worth of laundry? I wouldn't because I'm not a slum lord, but my boss? He has specifically instructed us to only use one tide pod per load in this massive, industrial washer. Because if you're poor, you don't even deserve clean sheets? How could you? If your sheets are clean that's less profit for the capitalist.

>>2941236
You can justify any anti-human behavior with that line "it's just business". you know damn well he wouldn't lay in the bed he makes for his customers. And they are paying customers, even if we are poor as fuck we still pay, we shouldn't be treated as subhuman because we can't afford just a little bit better.
The reason they don't want to work to rule? Because it reflects on them, not the boss. THe boss gets the money, the property, the assets, but who's putting out the sheets? Who has to hand a guest a dirty, barely washed towel or sheet? Me, or another front desk person, or the cleaning ladies. We wouldn't do that to our fellow man, we don't want that guilt in our hearts, but it's forced upon us by the boss man. It's deeper than just wage extraction, deeper than surplus labor value, the wage slave arrangement literally extracts your humanity and gives it to the people who profit.

>>2940949
>it's beautiful and good that global communications have enabled the expansion of our sympathetic circles
It also has done the complete opposite by allowing demonization of entire groups to be easier. The Haitian dog story would have never gotten traction if it wasn't for the ability to communicate that so easily

>>2941083
Moralism final boss. I bet I know how you would react if I said "Ukranians didn't choose to be imperialist"

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Republicans want nothing more than to rule over a pile of dust and ash. They do not care what <img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2026%2F10%2FTOS-L-AngieNixonUCFAppearance17527.jpg&amp;f=1&amp;nofb=1&amp;ipt=1bec22e67ed13a36b9d4e51dba818764c5ed6e792a889a5552238107cdec6c6b&amp;ipo=images" alt="Can Angie Nixon turn out enough young voters to win Senate seat?"/>they rule over, so long as they get to be the rulers. Over the last eight years of Florida politics, one thing has been at the forefront: direct attacks on the public education system. They use vulgar propaganda like school choice, with the biggest scare quotes imaginable, to push a charter school system that enriches the few and harms the masses.

One might wonder what is gained, beyond profit for the companies that run these charter schools, by gutting public education. I know people here in Florida who are looking to have families and raise children. Many of them say plainly that they do not feel comfortable raising kids in Florida. Young people want to live the traditional lifestyle Republicans talk about: get married, work, have a kid or two, hopefully buy a home. Buying a home, even for a family, is a pipe dream. But it is the American dream, and people are still pursuing it. You would think Republicans would want these people to stay in their state. You would think they would want to attract them. After all, they spend so much time and energy marketing this traditional lifestyle. Yet those same people are actively trying to leave Florida because of Republican policies.

Would you send your child to a school that does not mandate vaccinations in a country seeing measles outbreaks on a scale rarely seen in developed nations? I would not. Would you raise a child without a guarantee of a proper education? Maybe their public school has been defunded. Maybe you cannot afford a good charter school. Maybe they have special needs, God forbid, and no charter school will take them. What do you do then? What about the lack of family care and child care, the health caPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



 

GRETA SPEAKS!

Opinion Zionism as Racism: The Soviet Ploy Used to 'Explain' Israel and Hamas
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-12-13/ty-article-opinion/.premium/zionism-as-racism-the-soviet-ploy-used-to-explain-israel-and-hamas/0000018c-6261-de43-affd-f663727c0000
>The preponderance of Hamas apologists emerging among some in the progressive left reveals that not only is the "Big Red Lie" back, it's more potent than ever.

The ‘Z’ word: Reclaiming Zionism
https://thejewishindependent.com.au/the-z-word-reclaiming-zionism/

Zionism is racism debate ‘unhelpful’, says Scottish Green co-leader
https://www.eastrennews.co.uk/news/national/26646170.zionism-racism-debate-unhelpful-says-scottish-green-co-leader/

Equality watchdog writes to Greens over 'Zionism is racism' motion
https://www.British Broadcasting Corporation.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0np1gldvo

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>>2940965
>Rothschild is the richest oil man in the world
Did you not read your own post?
The stake was worth 8 billion. Is 8 billion the top drawer? No.
You clearly have some philistine derangement which can't be exorcised at the moment, so there's nothing more I can advise besides you to contemplate on why you believe what you believe.

>>2940975
>The stake was worth 8 billion. Is 8 billion the top drawer?
Irrelevant/shifting goalposts. You wanted "evidence" for political relevance. This deal was very much relevant to make headlines, regardless of how much Rothschild's involvement was supposedly worth or not worth.
>why you believe what you believe.
Saying "anti-semite" without saying "anti-semite", nice. Here's what I believe: you're a butthurt neoliberal and you could use some vacation on archipel gulag.

>neoliberal
The ultimate insult

>>2940985
Your original speculation is that the UK state is Zionist because of the Rothschilds. I ask you evidence for this; you provide none. That is all. Like the other anon, the flagrant claim that the last 200 years of war have the stain of Rothschild on it has not been substantiated, has it? Look at the people you associate with and assess your place within them.
>anti-semite
Philistine is a more fitting term.
You live in a locus of low culture to talk about the Rothschilds.
You may as well talk about the Freemasons, who are also irrelevant.
>gulag
I should be kept in chains because I demand real evidence?
You are an unashamed, anti-intellectual tyrant.

Are we all boycotting the big shops today lads and only giving our money to le hecking wholesome small business



 

>Bye, bye, Microsoft! – edition
https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-drops-windows-for-linux/

The Chinese question is: how does a comfy non-imperialist nation transform itself into a global socialist model that can be reproduced and adopted by the rest of the world, without either reproducing the aggressive and counter-productive policies of the USSR or appearing toothless, while resolving the contradictions of the so-called first world FOR THEM and liberating them from capitalist domination, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?

<A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.


Original threads:
https://archive.ph/S2XYA
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leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html

bunekrchan.xyz archives:
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>>2940797
>implying marxism is amoral
read the anti-duhring

>>2936286
>implying marx supported imperialism
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1857/01/23.htm

we have a guy that learned marxism through tweets going out of his way to belittle maybe the only chinese poster we have with this nonsense. the mods here have reached new levels of incompetency


>>2940889

red sorghum sucks

its fiction romanticizing the landlords, warlords, and bandits of the 1930s. only had brief domestic popularity because it hated the japanese more than the KMT and CPC, but was overwhlemingly one of those 1980-1990s anti communist books that got shilled in the west.

>>2940886

Id start with Fanshen, Red Star Over China, and Louise Strong's writings on china to grasp the 30-40s as a base.

tbh coming and seeing it yourself would impart more wisdom about the current china than any book I can think of

So, chinese AI crashed?



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Now post the list of literal-who communist parties that condemn Russia's invasion.

And the Donetsk fighter with the nazi patch, that was actually a trophy.

>>2941057
Mental illness.

>>2941119
>guy who defends a neolib shithole on the internet for 4 years complains about posters from neolib shitholes
geg

>>2941166
Oil refinery status?

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>>2941166
You mean this nazi patch?



 

Three years after October 7th this very difficult question needs to be asked:

Materially speaking, what can the American left — or any country’s left — do to actually “support” Palestine?

I’ve been an activist for Palestine solidarity since 2008. I’ve seen this movement change drastically during this time. Basically, 18 years ago you could support a two-state solution on the ‘67 border just fine without scrutiny. Now, post-Gaza genocide, you’re considered a “Zio” or “normalizer” if you support anything other than a full-blown Algeria scenario whereby every single Israeli Jew is deported or forced to flee. But let’s be honest: even if this is what we wanted, the American (or overall western) left has no ability to make this happen. It’s as stupid as claiming you’re a sellout unless you support a gigantic communist uprising happening tomorrow. Given that what we mentally support means nothing unless we can do material support, what’s the fucking point?

Oh but it’s a MORAL LITMUS TEST! — so fucking what? Even if we wanted to weed out the “immoral” people from our movement we still have no ability to carry out the results we want to see.

So where does that leave us? What should the left be doing for Palestine that it already hasn’t been doing for the past 20 years? We’ve done mass protests, boycotts, pressuring politicians, attempting to blockade weapons shipments, etc. Some people like Elias Rodriguez even used political violence. And guess what? Nothing happened in terms of the Palestinians winning. Israel’s reputation is in the shitter, but why hasn’t that translated into a Palestinian victory? How much longer do we have to wait for Israel to collapse, and if that happens on what basis would an “Algeria” scenario emerge?

Maybe I’m wrong but I really want to know what it actually means to “support Palestine” now.
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>>2940456
So its about vibes?

>>2940469
Nta but Vibe coding the Palestinian revolution

>>2928125
Why is Adam Friedland smoking weed in Mexico?


>>2940456
>islamist entryism
Let's celebrate!!



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!™
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2940995
imagine being butthurt about s*udis eating shit vs. yemenichads

>>2938311
>>2938324
actually pretty high lol
> taking himself out of the business.
yea now heila klein can farm being the victim of the evil ethan klein and sell more pedophile sweatshirts

>>2940995
you're one of the stupidest flagposters and that's saying something considering you're competing with sabocat


>>2941007
Contrarianism is a disease



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So say a Marxist-Leninist economy has all of the stuff important to the state nationalized and operating under scientific planning, it tries to give the basic needs of life like employment and housing to everyone as possible, but there's additionally a private sector for commodity circulation because trying to micromanage every small business to the smallest detail is silly in general. The private sector is heavily regulated to prevent them from subverting the rest of society, and also taxed to help pay for the rest of society.

So what exactly is bad about this generally speaking? Especially on a neoliberal Earth where the international elite, outside of china, can flee and go anywhere and has no accountability? The strategy of dengist economics has produced the same results that people like Mao and Stalin wanted out of their countries like mass industrialization, electrification, and prosperity but at the same time holding their own societal elites accountable.
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>It doesn't matter if a cat is black or white, if it catches mice it's a good cat.

Its retarded

>>2865198
there was this one german guy who dedicated his life to developing the most accurate description of dengism. in fact he developed a whole framework for historical and social analysis which can grossly be summarized as revolving around who owns the deng in a society. the book is just called deng. i recommend you read it.

>>2867053
Yes, Marx celebrated the American revolution as progressive. We should celebrate China as progressive and then call for overturning it as soon as it is not.

>>2941222
>We should celebrate China as progressive and then call for overturning it as soon as it is not.
So since the 1970s



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