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 No.1613191

>>1599035
>>1613190
hell yeah we need even less posts and new blood

 No.1613265

>>1613190
I would give the old ">implying new posters shouldn't lurk before posting" but due to various factors i don't know if we can be picky anymore. not that it would help, since the most active staff members for years were already anti-/leftypol/


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Leftypedia lived - Leftypedia lives - Leftypedia will live!

Greetings, comrades. Leftypedia, the radical encyclopedia, should be back in a usable state. We have more moderators, which will help with spam from now on, and images are slowly being repopulated for your viewing pleasure. The new domain has been up and running for a while at https://wiki.leftypol.org, and we've imported the vast majority of content that was on the old site while adding a lot of new stuff. I hope that Anons can come back and fill in any content that was lost.

For those unaware, Leftypedia is an original /leftypol/ project dedicated to combating the disinformation of mainstream media and academic sources, as well as discussing leftist history, theory, and practice from a multi-sectarian viewpoint. We welcome additions from different leftist perspectives provided that they are properly sourced and well argued. In addition, we maintain a separate space, tentatively titled "Essays", for more subjective or polemic work.

The original thread is here: >>>/edu/3780
You can find Leftypedia at: https://wiki.leftypol.org
Help for new editors: https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Leftypedia:Community_portal
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 No.1607938

>>1607920
Same reason why Stalin stole that ice cream, obviously.

 No.1609978

>>1606134 [Me]
Assuming no further input I have been effectively swayed on the issue of Shining Path. Main points that have convinced me so far are:
* Very few parties in Peru actually have the exact same name. "Not to be confused with 'Peruvian Communist Party'" seems fine as solution.
* Leftypedia currently has only this one article for a communist party from Peru, meaning it is the most notable and useful in practical terms
* The name of the article doesn't really matter to me in the long run, this argument has gone on long enough

For a site where we are probably gonna redirect Albania to "People's Socialist Republic of Albania", this shit seems pretty minor to me.

You can weigh in here:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Talk:Shining_Path


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 No.1611121[Reply]

NOOOOOO! THE BIRTHRATES ARE FALLING!!!

WTF is the truth about population boom vs bust? And why are so many rightoids and porkies like Musk obsessed with the birth rates? It makes me suspicious that the porkoids just want us to make more wage slaves? OTOH you have people claiming the WEF/ "elites" are malthusian and want population decrease? which one is it? Wont population collapse be better for the environment, plus doesn't population decline make the rate of profit decline since human labor is the source of value?
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 No.1613239

>>1613226
yes but you're also trying to shill your weird social contagion theory of LGBT

 No.1613256

>>1613239
How is it weird that if people don't think they will go to hell or be socially ostracised for being gay or not getting married or not having kids then more people will do it. Dumb fuck.

 No.1613263

>>1613256
its not weird but i dont buy the numbers of 20/30%+ of youngs being LGBT+. sorry, not buying it unless you can provide sources that arent right wing theocratic think tanks fearmongering about the gays

 No.1613270

>>1613263
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/02/24/gen-z-lgbt/

What's wrong with this source? That's not even taking into account people who don't want kids or marriage which is much higher

 No.1613273

Protip: only raging autists and misogynists obsess over birthrates being too low.


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 No.941093[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's hyper-normalization of petty internet drama.
Make sure to check and consider to read the reading list!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!™

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEww2oeqWuoI3wL-PyJmo2Vbv

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oEabMTmEwynPKHnsxfdpM7jq68JN8vL
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 No.1613262

>>1613209
Yes. He's always been unhinged. But it's getting worse.

 No.1613266

>>1613140
>>1613144
Based Lamarckist. Reject Darwinism.

 No.1613267

>>1613197
>called his website "X"
>it's full of Gen X
It all makes sense now.

 No.1613269

>>1613196
I guess his natural immunity can't cope with the woke mind virus, sounds like a skill issue

 No.1613272

>>1613196
He wants to streaming video games to twitter, but only for paid members. His goal seems to be to gentrifiy the website.


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 No.1613020[Reply]

American propaganda is now overstating its case. Here are some top Google News stories about China's ongoing "collapse."

https://san.com/commentary/chinas-collapse-years-in-the-making-not-an-overnight-event/

>"China is grappling with a range of challenges, including political, economic, and demographic issues. Youth unemployment rates are rising while fertility rates are declining, and banks are predicting a slowdown in economic growth. China’s economy is also feeling the effects of tech companies relocating and product bans being imposed by other countries."

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/chinas-economic-collapse-carries-warning-about-our-own-future
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/what-happens-if-china-collapses/ar-AA1hsBEC

Here is the most embarrassing example of the intellectual dishonesty of "China collapse" shit posting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coming_Collapse_of_China

>The Coming Collapse of China is a book by Gordon G. Chang, published in 2001, in which he argued that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was the root cause of many of China's problems and would cause the country's collapse by 2011. When 2011 was almost over, Chang admitted that his prediction was wrong but said it was off by only a year, asserting in Foreign Policy that the CCP would fall in 2012. Consequently he made the magazine's "10 worst predictions of the year" twice.[1][2][3]

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 No.1613117

>>1613115
They're sadists who exactly want to see millions of Chinese people suffer. Thankfully their sick delusions will never come true.

 No.1613121

>>1613115
They are just barking dogs saying BS from their comfy sofa. Sent them on a battleground face to face with PLA and they will piss and shit their pants

 No.1613141

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 No.1613157

>>1613020
>>1613141
Friendly Reminder, all of this "China iz collapsing!!!1!!" nonsense is basically nothing but pure projection from the USA/the EU.

 No.1613271

>>1613157
>pure projection from the USA/the EU
I don't think they are collapsing as fast as the propaganda would project, but they *are* in a rush to declare war on China, in order to staunch their own hegemonic decline.

So I see it more like setting up the mood for the eventual declaration of war, the "they hate our freedums" moment.

Because just like the middle east interventions had to be ran on islamophobia, this war has to be run on economic principles, they cannot be disguised, the US is fighting for supremacy. But the point is to , by then, convince the masses that the economic front is already won, China "is already collapsing", and that's why they are "lashing out".

It is projection, but calculated in order to sell the transparent aim of culling a billion Chinese from a neo-colonial standpoint as "harm reduction".


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 No.296564[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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 No.1611876

>>1611424
Thanks for this info comrade

 No.1612135

In short, what do each of the three volumes of Capital focus on? I understand that Capital Volume 1 discusses the trade of commodities ergo money and how it functions as capital, the concept of labor inherently creating surplus value even if paid for at its full exchange-value, centralization and accumulation of capital causing the capitalist to grain far more than the worker even at the best of times, even if the workers' share of income is growing on an absolute basis(again, optimistic case here) and how the increase of constant capital which initially(if applied in industries that produce necessities or the materials for them) decrease the value of labor-power and therefore increase profit, along with pushing any individual firm's goods below the socially necessary labor time, will eventually destroy the ability to create profit at all and lead to crisis.

Volume II starts(as far as I got before I decided I didn't understand what I read in I on the first go) with expanding on the circle of trade of commodities, revisiting the concept of productive capital that was only brushed on in the first volume in more detail, and I didn't get farther than that.

What is Volume III about? I know it discusses fictitious capital(things like stocks and bonds) but my knowledge ends there.

 No.1612137

>Hence, we see that behind all attempts to represent the circulation of commodities as a source of surplus-value, there lurks a quid pro quo, a mixing up of use-value and exchange-value.

I think that this is a beautiful quote from Chapter 5 just for the fact that Marx BTFO'd the Austrian School four years before they were even born.

 No.1612179

“The
commodity owner can, by his labour, create value, but not self-expanding value.
He can increase the value of his commodity, by adding fresh labour, and
therefore more value to the value in hand, by making, for instance, leather
into boots. The same material has now more value, because it contains a greater
quantity of labour. The boots have therefore more value than the leather, but
the value of the leather remains what it was; it has not expanded itself, has
not, during the making of the boots, annexed surplus-value.”

I don't fully understand this passage. Why is the labor of the commodity owner any different from the labor of the proletariat?

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Where were you when you realized Marx loved both capitalism and feudalism? picrel


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🗽United States Politics🦅

Absolute State of America Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth.

🏈💵💸🍔

State mandated propaganda livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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 No.1613253

>>1612266
>If you treat anyone who wants to decriminalize something as a potential criminal then you can easily apply the same logic to justify police surveillance of anyone who espouses revolutionary views
<if you want to lock up pedos who confess and fantasize of raping children online then you must be in favor of locking up communists who want to overthrow the bourgeoisie
lmao what is this faggot ass moralism, did you just parachute here?

 No.1613257

>>1613253
Crying about muh pedo thought crimes is peak moralism

 No.1613259

>>1613257
NTA but pedophillic ideation is probably a prelude to actual pedophilia, Agent Kochinski probably needs therapy before he rapes an actual child

 No.1613261

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>>1613257
>freeze peach brah! yeah im admitting to wanting to fuck children and i applaud people who do it but you can't put me in prison cuz i haven't done it yet!!!
cool story faggot, now face the wall

 No.1613264

>>1613245
Native LAfag here. I think its because the more people you are around that you will never ever see again in your life the less there is an incentive to be friendly. Its just an endless sea of strangers. But there may be more to it as >>1613250 points out even in larger cities in places like the Midwest and South people are more friendly.


 No.1613235[Reply]

>Vespasian imposed a Urine Tax (Latin: vectigal urinae) on the distribution of urine from Rome's public urinals (the Roman lower classes urinated into pots, which were later emptied into cesspools). The urine collected from these public urinals was sold as an ingredient for several chemical processes. It was used in tanning, wool production, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas. The buyers of the urine paid the tax.

>The Roman historian Suetonius reports that when Vespasian's son Titus complained about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and asked whether he felt offended by its smell. When Titus said "No," Vespasian replied, "Yet it comes from urine".

Urine was big money until the 1950s and frankly it astonishes me we literally piss it away today given it's an amazing chemical feedstock.

Under socialism everyone's piss will be collected to, at the very least, be used in agricultural compost as a nitrogen source. NEETs and truckers who hog their piss in their piss jugs in their mom's basements and their semi trucks are piss kulaks.
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 No.1613240

sauce on text?

 No.1613248

>>1613240
what's your favourite search engine

i bet it's google, you disgusting normalfag.

 No.1613251

*urinates on tree*

 No.1613258

>>1613240
https://www.heritagedaily.com/2016/05/did-you-know-the-romans-created-a-tax-on-urine/110998

 No.1613260

>>1613238
not if they collect the piss after it drips off them and give it to the economic planners


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 No.1608083[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

REMEMBER: слава Канаді! Slava Klanadi!

>european officials say they'll stop buying russian energy
>russian officials say that if europeans stop buying russian energy they will freeze
>european officials keep buying russian energy despite the posturing
<UHHHH Y ISN'T YUROP FREEZING? HELLO, GENERAL WINTER?? DUMB ZIGGERS

>McConnell: American support for Ukraine is not charity. It’s in our own direct interests – not least because degrading Russia helps to deter China.
<China: LE NEUTRAL, LE OPTICS, LE EUROPEAN OUTREACH

>america could grind china to a stalemate against taiw-ACK

>"why isn’t russia building epic wunderwaffen during a war instead of sticking to the more reliable and available models they already have??"
<putting the pathetic nazi faggots who lost WW2 in charge of NATO did irreparable damage to your militaries, jesus christ

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 No.1613232

>>1613218
Encircled.
Klishchiivka–liberated.
Andriivka–liberated.
Inside the ruined city the invader conscript fears for his life.
And deep behind, his coward generals, their eyes always glued to the sky watching for Storm Shadow, regret the incalculable loss of life:
100.000 muscovite mobiks dead for a city that never yelled the promised strategic advantage. For a ruin that soon will be free and Ukrainian again.
Invader beware–the Battle of Bakhmut is just getting started.

 No.1613234

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>>1613182
>ukraine's reconstruction
more like reconstruction in their own image

 No.1613242

>>1613232
>and into the void, a nazi yelps his delusions…

 No.1613254

>>1613234
inb4 they'll remake the Ukraine in some metaverse.

 No.1613255

>>1613156
Reminder that Bakhmut is still defended on the Wikipedo front.


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 No.1613047[Reply]

>Since the publication of Elizabeth A. R. Brown's "The Tyranny of a Construct" (1974) and Susan Reynolds's Fiefs and Vassals (1994), there has been ongoing inconclusive discussion among medieval historians as to whether feudalism is a useful construct for understanding medieval society.

Is there an effort by the bourgeoisie to destroy one of the pillars of Marxist theory, by disputing that modes of production like "feudalism," "capitalism," and "socialism" even exist? What, if anything, do you think of the works of Elizabeth Brown and Susan Reyndolds in disputing feudalism?

Have you given much thought to pre-capitalist modes of production?

 No.1613110

Interesting

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 No.1613212

>>1613047
I've been reading through The Class Struggle in the Ancient Greek World by Ste. Croix recently where he talks about a bit about serfdom and tenancy being on the rise towards the end of the Roman Empire and how it would be incorrect to call that feudalism since the propertied class still relied primarily on the surplus generated by full on slaves in some form. So now I'm wondering if the primary exploitation that occurs in feudalism was between the serf and his lord, who has his obligations to another kind of lord and so on. That last part trips me up since people call Mexico the republic feudal until the 1930s and Post Qing China feudal up until the defeat of the Kuomintang. Were those obligations to higher lords still dominant in the two places mentioned above (or even required for feudalism the mode of production) or were those places just not feudal by the 20th century? I'm not very well read, please understand.

 No.1613229

>>1613212
>That last part trips me up since people call Mexico the republic feudal until the 1930s and Post Qing China feudal up until the defeat of the Kuomintang.
Semifeudal.

 No.1613236

>>1613212
China had the AMP, did they not?
In Feudalism, land was privately owned in multi-level hierarchy, but in an AMP society there is not much private ownership at all as all land is owned by the state and only managed through appointed officials.


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