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>Gigabazed Edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

Original threads:
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https://archive.ph/Ytckv

leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html

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stumbled upon this, apparently china has its own chuds

Im going to go ahead and say this is a cia psyop.

on the other hand maybe 4chan pol poisoned china naturally


https://gnet-research.org/2026/04/29/han-ethnonationalism-in-china-from-historical-nostalgia-to-transnational-extremism-influences/

>Figure 3: Image shared by a Han ethnonationalist in a WeChat group chat depicting an ancient Han warrior piercing a figure in Mao-era attire. Behind them stand Red Guards with banners and armoured warriors bearing the Black Dragon Flag, a modern invention appropriating historical motifs. The violent imagery expresses hostility towards the Maoist China that opposed “Han chauvinism” and to contemporary leftist critics of Han ethnonationalism, both online and off.

>>2853101
>apparently china has its own chuds
woah…………… deep…………….

>>2851832
idgaf about short high production value videos from glowie westoids claiming to know things about china

>>2853101
>Limonov in the background on 2nd pic

>>2853101
Get get cracked down on every so often. I think a few years ago the state brought in some laws forcing tech companies to deal with them more effectively.



 

🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Not Worried Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
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>>2852059
Jack wilimos official endorsements(the moment you been waiting for):
Edgar Beethoven(U.S house-N.C 1)
Terry glorious(U.S house-N.C 2)
Enver hoxha’s oldest daughter (U.S house-N.C 3)
Our official campaign number:
+1 (712) 206 1188

>>2853177
>I think you'd see them build competency quickly
Nah, they’ll mostly just go feral

>>2853129
This. We litteray can take at the UK for this Keir Starmer (PBUH) reduced immigration to levels unsee since half a century and his government still get defamed as the guys importing one trillion pakistani into england while his detractors worship Orbans or Meloni who actually imported one trillion brown people.
It is purely vibe based and we gain nothing in tailing the right on any of it's concerns except maybe crime.

>>2853187
>>2853129
Pretty sure there was a Chapo episode where they talked about Trump supporters who were fretting about immigration and the border under Biden and even as they were disappointed with Trump they claimed "Well, Trump fixed that!"

It's literally just vibes. The best way to solve the "immigration crisis" is just to censor right wing news. It's a made up issue. It's not based in reality.

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>>2853166
these AI models are freaky
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Iranian McDonald's edition

>Iran agrees to US administered $300 billion private-sector reconstruction and development plan

>Hezbollah approved ceasefire with Israel on 19th of June, 22 Lebanese civilians have died since
>Israel is reportedly 'seething' and 'coping'
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Iranian Communists in the 80s used to address international campists libtards with the slogan "The Ayatollah is no more progressive than the Queen of England" the survival of Savak pretty much vindicated them.

Thank Marxallah Iranian Communists don't have access to leftard online spaces otherwise they would've killed themselves.

Just imagine yourself in the shoes of an Iranian Communist getting slaughtered by all sides as your supposed "comrades" cheer for it… how do you even have it in you to struggle?

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>>2853128
>islamists
retard
the US installed puppets, has massive leverage, and is turning the screws.
acutally follow the news dipshit.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20260628-the-banker-of-baghdad-how-tom-barrack-plans-to-starve-irans-militia-machine/

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>>2853169
>the US installed puppets
That's what I said. He is the ACKsis candidate, of course he is a US puppet lol

FYI those named belong to literally who sunni politicians, just classic scapegoat theatrics.

>posts list of C tier sunni politicians *allegedly* captured by the ACKsis of resistance PM
<THIS LE US COUP!!111
When are jannies banning xitterites from posting? This is embarrassing

>>2853164
If by “Iranian communists” you mean “western backed French educated Trotskyites” then sure



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What are the best arguments for or against third-worldism?

>Is there a true “proletariat” within the global north?

>How culpable are the rank and file citizenry in first world nations?
>Do first world nations have potential for proletarian revolution from within, or can they only be destroyed externally by “proletarian nations”?
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do any anons know if their are there any third-worldist orgs operating in the global south? we should just shoot them an email real quick.

>>2853138
>That drop off by the '70s
Kill every capitalist roader

>>2853131
Ir you can just admit the proletariat is nothing but another bourgeois in the making no matter where they are

>>2853075
>And now that same landowning class comprises 50% of us population
I know you're not stupid enough to try and claim that owning a house you personally live in is the same as owning a feudal estate worked by peasants that pay you rent. You can't possibly be that retarded right?

>>2853184
To the innocent Afghanis you tortured and butchered it’s a distinction without a difference



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Argentina cabinet chief resigns after corruption allegations
Adorni ⁠has been accused of illicit enrichment due to expenses that do not appear to ​match his income. He has received criticism for a number of personal trips he has taken ​with his family, including a first-class holiday to Aruba over the Christmas period, and a private jet flight to Uruguay during Carnival season. Adorni has said that he built his wealth before entering government and that ​all trips he has taken with his family were paid for with private funds.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-cabinet-chief-resigns-after-corruption-allegations-2026-06-27/

Colombia’s right pushes ‘gunpoint vote’ narrative, data contradict it
Even before the preliminary vote count from the first round on May 31 had been completed, a table began circulating on social media showing results in municipalities with extreme risk from armed groups, linking them to Cepeda, the candidate from the Historic Pact coalition. Influencers backing De la Espriella claimed that Cepeda was winning precisely in areas where guerrilla presence was strongest.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2026-06-26/colombias-right-pushes-gunpoint-vote-narrative-data-contradict-it.html
https://archive.ph/62gQz

Lebanon-Israel deal may stop war crime victims seeking justice, experts say
Article 13 of the deal says Israel and Lebanon will “cease all hostile or negative actions in international political or legal forums” to establish good faith between the two sides. The text, which is broadly phrased, could prevent victims of Israeli war crimes allegedly committed during fighting since 8 October 2023 from seeking justice through international or national courts.
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Donald Trump nominates ex-state trooper Lance Schroyer as ICE director
United States President Donald Trump has nominated a former Oklahoma state trooper to serve as the director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), one of the primary agencies charged with carrying out his mass deportation campaign. On Saturday, Trump revealed Lance Schroyer as his pick, praising his 29 years of law enforcement experience, as well as his service as a US Marine.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/27/donald-trump-nominates-lance-schroyer-to-serve-as-ice-director
https://archive.ph/HBjMJ

Appeals court rejects Trump EPA bid to abandon rule restricting deadly soot pollution
The unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel is a setback for the Trump administration’s deregulatory agenda and its repeated efforts to boost coal, a reliable but polluting energy source. The decision by the US court of appeals for the District of Columbia circuit leaves intact, for now, a tighter standard set in 2024 on pollution from coal-fired power plants, factories and other industrial sources.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jun/27/trump-epa-court-ruling-soot-pollution

Trump administration asks US Supreme Court to endorse immigration detention policy
The administration made that request in a filing, made public on Friday, asking the Supreme Court to overturn a May decision by a federal appeals court, which had rejected its ​reinterpretation of a decades-old immigration law that now underlies its mass detention policy.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-administration-asks-us-supreme-court-endorse-immigration-detention-policy-2026-06-26/

Leon Black accused of stonewalling Congress as Epstein hearing ends abruptly
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Peace Abroad, War Next Door: Pakistani Airstrikes Devastate Afghan Civilians
In the village of Mana, located in Afghanistan’s Khost province, close to the Pakistani border, men who normally pass their days farming instead spent the morning of June 10 digging fresh graves for their murdered relatives and neighbors. The night before, shortly after midnight, Pakistani drones and fighter jets flattened the neighboring homes of two brothers, Siraj and Babri. Nine members of a single family were killed, most of them women and children. The two brothers’ homes stood beside one another in Mana. Neighbors worked through the night dragging the dead and the wounded out of the debris. Across the two households, ten more people were wounded, several of them in critical condition. The survivors were rushed first to a small district hospital, before being transferred to the largest provincial hospital in Khost. A doctor at the hospital, who asked not to be named because medical staff have been warned against speaking to journalists, told Drop Site that 11 bodies were brought in after the strike, including women, children, and men—every one of them a civilian. Among the wounded survivors were three children.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/peace-abroad-war-next-door-pakistani

Trotsky, 1905 and the Permanent Revolution
The theory of the ‘permanent revolution’, developed by Leon Trotsky in the 20th century, remains one of the most important and misunderstood ideas in all of Marxism. In this article, Joe Attard delves into the origins of Trotsky’s ideas, and how they were shaped by the events of the 1905 Revolution in Russia. The Russian Revolution of 1905 went off like a bombshell, blowing apart all scepticism about the fighting potential of the Russian masses toiling under the heel of tsarist absolutism. While the workers were ultimately crushed after a year of open combat with tsarism, they laid the foundations for even greater battles to come. Leon Trotsky was virtually alone in understanding the real significance of 1905, which catalysed ideas he had already been developing into his greatest theoretical contribution: the permanent revolution. There is a dialectical relationship between individuals, ideas and events. Lev Davidovich Bronstein (the birthname of ‘Leon Trotsky’) enPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Article 13 of the deal says Israel and Lebanon will “cease all hostile or negative actions in international political or legal forums” to establish good faith between the two sides. The text, which is broadly phrased, could prevent victims of Israeli war crimes allegedly committed during fighting since 8 October 2023 from seeking justice through international or national courts.
OOOOOOOOOOOOF

Trusted ther national bourugeois award.



 

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obvs, the crowd int the ritual of fetishized humiliation will grab scott ritter, who's not a Russian official or politician as a gotcha, Russia lost. but of course, when top army general zalushny said that they could get back to the borders of Feb 23, 2022, with 700 tanks is ignored in their minds. or when the chief SBU intelligence officer says they are 'mentally in crimea' that means nothing, ukraine won!
NO.REFUNDS.FOR.THE.2023.SUMMER.CRIMEAN.BEACH.PARTY.TICKETS.

>>2853116
Did you have as much fun regurgitating that as you did when first consuming it?

The more quotation marks the more fun!

Sumy status? I was informed by multiple learned "Ziggers" here that Russia would capture it in 2025? Surely they didn't lie to me?

>Russia isn't winning fast enough



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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/25/robert-jenrick-questions-about-5m-donation-nigel-farage-legitimate

Robert Jenrick says questions about £5m donation to Farage are legitimate

<Robert Jenrick has said it is “legitimate” for the media to ask questions about Nigel Farage’s £5m personal donation from a cryptocurrency billionaire, just days after the Reform UK leader told an interviewer it was “none of your business”.
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>>2853146
We used to have the young adults working those sorts of jobs, then you can pay off university and not be in lifelong debt. I just don't get what the issue is, it seems like we're hyper-focused on educating our people for 25 to 30 years and then letting them flee our country at our expense. They can say the education drives GDP but it also causes horrendously low birth rates and now we're getting less people actually being employed.
As for subsidising social care … The conservatives already gave the boomers everything they could ever need. Triple lock pensions and every one of them that owns a house is a millionaire now, how can they not afford to pay someone to take care of them? Assuming we're talking about old people for social care.

We have people who can work, it's just clear that capitalism doesn't work with an immigration-heavy structure, where more than ever people are hopping from job to job because employers don't want to train employees in the long term and can easily abuse a cheap labour market.

>>2853146
Omg you're the 'it wasn't real neoliberalism' guy, what is even the point in arguing when your position is so fundamentally inane.

Why are you bringing up Nauru, so ridiculous.

>>2853146
ok let me give a real rebuttal.

>We sell bombs to Israel because we've got an asinine policy of being totally slavish to the US (for which the logical step is to buy all our weapons from them for interoperability advantages + low unit costs) while also producing our own bespoke weapons as a subsidy to the arms industry even though that results in overpriced weapons that don't work and don't interoperate with our allies very well. It is, in fact, downstream of this stupid idea that there's something morally upstanding about "self sufficiency" and something morally wrong about selling music and comedy to a nation of steelmakers in exchange for some steel.


in terms of arms contracts, you may be right that there's some element of irrational protectionism going on there, though I do think that they probably do bring money into the UK economy to some extent.

>something morally wrong about selling music and comedy to a nation of steelmakers in exchange for some steel.


this is such a cock-eyed view of the world. as if China et al will be content to forever be 'a nation of steelmakers' and content to not develop any culture industries of their own. we are already seeing chinese media products sweep the west and china beginning to turn their noses up at western cultural imports, so this argument doesn't even make sense, the 'IP nation' niche is quickly becoming non-viable. not to mention that the culture industry can only provide employment to a tiny number of people in the first place compared to steelmaking etc.

>We do actually build engines and wings for planes, it's one of the things we're good at and the kind of high-value-added (but low employment) industries we'd do well to focus on as a small but important aside to a services-focused economic strategy.


Yes we do a small amount of this kind of work but not enough to make a difference. There's no reason we should have let our car industry die, that was not economically rational in any way. deindustrialisation absolutely ravaged the economy as well as the average worker's standard of living.

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>>2853160
I would abolish tuition fees personally, that handles student debt quickly and easily. For most other stuff you can cross compare internationally to see what's a general flaw of the status quo and what's a Britain specific malaise. (e.g. most countries have underemployed graduates to some extent but only Britain has wage stagnation)

>>2853168
Nauru obviously demonstrates the principle that some nations are better equipped to make steel than others, since Nauru is clearly a bad site for a steel mill.

You could not articulate my position in any detail, so you are in no position to call it inane. You don't even know what you're disagreeing with or what premises I'm working from.

>>2853170
I will reply in detail when I have more time but fundamentally I will underscore once again that the majority of a developed economy is services. Even China, the manufacturing center of the world is a majority service economy! (61% of GDP)

Though I will reintroduce a hobby horse before I forget: devolve power to regions. Stop thinking nationally. If part of this country is well suited to manufacturing then let it specialise in that, rather than trying to draw up a one size doesn't fit most strategy for the nation as a whole.
(The only risk is that this boosts the chance of getting Malaysia'd even more)

>>2853171
>Nauru obviously demonstrates the principle that some nations are better equipped to make steel than others, since Nauru is clearly a bad site for a steel mill.

yeah but it's such a ridiculous argument because it doesn't apply to the UK in any way. you might as well be like 'it's wrong to say that any country will benefit from a strong transport infrastructure, because vatican city is so small, you can just walk everywhere, high speed rail would be a waste'. it's a ridiculous nitpicking of the main point

>I will reply in detail when I have more time but fundamentally I will underscore once again that the majority of a developed economy is services. Even China, the manufacturing center of the world is a majority service economy! (61% of GDP)


and did I say we should have no services? obviously no, but manufacturing/resource extraction/etc should be the bedrock of any economy in order for it to be stable

>Though I will reintroduce a hobby horse before I forget: devolve power to regions. Stop thinking nationally. If part of this country is well suited to manufacturing then let it specialise in that, rather than trying to draw up a one size doesn't fit most strategy for the nation as a whole.


I mean ok, I guess, obviously I don't think we should build steel mills in canary wharf



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Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2851346
If it’s not a structural issue I dont care. I can almost guarantee Japan and South Korea are worse.

>>2852894
>can't handle facts
>imblying that economic subsidies aren't the largest fact for this conversation. keep being a liberal.

>>2852256
>BE engaging in orientalism
Kek

>>2851346
>first example isn’t even about race
>it was a trend started by accident by an influencer
Yeah, this garbage

>stop voting with your wallet



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