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 No.1297513

>>1297509
He's ban evading, currently.



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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
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 No.1296885

Have you even read the prince? How it says not to hire mercenaries, not to invite foreigners to solve your land's problems, not to offend men on their property or honor. Have you missed all that? It has decent advice if you stop trying to emulate it as a character thing and take it in a practical way.



 No.1297524[Reply]

https://news.yahoo.com/indonesia-outlaws-sex-outside-marriage-150606844.html

>Indonesian lawmakers unanimously passed a sweeping new criminal code on Tuesday that criminalizes sex outside marriage, as part of a tranche of changes that critics say threaten human rights and freedoms in the Southeast Asian country.


They're also de facto banning LGBT because obv. there's no marriage between same sex as well.

Finally they are also banning insulting the president or disagreeing with the government.

Basically, they're going FULL SAUDI

indonesian-anons explain this shit

 No.1297526

Is this the same bill that bans communism?



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 No.1263388[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I know I'll get inevitable get flamed for this, but I'm not saying that Russia bad or that we should ever side with NATO or any social chauvinist radlib shit like that. However, the ideology of "multipolarism" seems to be in contradiction to what's actually happening and is largely in the service of the geopolitical interests of one country in particular. What actually seems to be happening is not that there are multiple "poles" forming; regional powers directly competing with the global hegemonic power of the United States, but more an anti-hegemonic league of nations loosely aligned around the desire to resist American influence. What nations are actively trying to be "poles"? China? India? Brazil? South Africa? Iran? I guess you could argue that they all exhibit their own sort of international influence, but none of them are really presenting themselves as new "poles" of global power that stand in singular opposition to American global power or each other. It's really only Russia trying to position itself this way. At times, it comes across as a ham-fisted attempt at reviving Soviet internationalism without embracing communism again, replacing socialist internationalism with Duginoid schizoposting about Eurasianism and Atlanticism or whatever.

Every socialist should be opposed to the United States and NATO, and to that extent, those nations that are opposed to the United States and NATO could be viewed as the "good guys" to some extent, and we should all be exited for a "post-American" world order, but I don't know why you'd cheerlead any particular world order other than, obviously, global communism. Especially if that world order is essentially a return to pre-WWII great power competition. I could think of a few outcomes that are preferable to that even without a global socialist revolution, such as the counter-hegemonic countries remaining largely autonomous equals operating as a single political bloc against NATO, rather than forming around "pole" countries.

The whole thing comes across as trying to convince people that global liberation from imperialism isn't just in the destruction of US-NATO hegemony, but somehow requires the re-formation of the Russian Empire.
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>>1297314
>magacommunist
>infrared and maupin goon
>"evil USA Vs based anyone who isn't the USA" satan and Jesus story
>bring back communism magically
Go outside you absolute faggot. I literally never ever hear of any of these people except on here by retards like you. I wouldn’t have ever even heard about them in the first place if it wasn’t for mentally ill retards like you talking about these irrelevant people and irrelevant concepts. I guarantee you I have been a communist longer than you have been alive. Read my lips you stupid faggot: I don’t give a shit about your retarded eceleb bullshit, and it has nothing to do with multipolarity, never has and never will.

 No.1297349

>>1297308
>there is some sort of giga super international market
true
> only a single fucking phone producer or single fucking oil corp in the entire fucking world
not what i said
>Lenin
said that imperialism is a cartel association between capitalists that divide the world between them.

the point is not that there is one phone producer but that all phone producers are subject to the petroleum tax that is controlled and enforced by the US military such that the final value added in the supply chain is over and above profits extracted at every previous step such that the majority share of the profits end up going to the hegemonic imperialist powers, which are the banks of G7 countries that are vassals of US corporations.

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 No.1297519

>>1297314
>Instead of spamming videos by your favorite magacommunist retard
<he thinks Ben Norton is a "magacommunist."
<he didn't watch the video explaining why US imperialism is desperate to prevent the inevitable
<he doesn't care what multipolarity actually is

 No.1297523

>>1297000
>pretend to be victorious for beating the strawman you imagined

you have been doing this the entire thread lmao



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 No.1297123[Reply]

sports is legalized nationalism
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 No.1297346

>>1297123
wtf sports are based???

 No.1297436

>>1297296
Gaddafi really was one of a kind. RIP to a real one.

 No.1297458

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 No.1297521

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>>1297458
he was killed because he and all his subordinates had so much drip they'd show up to UN meetings and mog every person there



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 No.1293388[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread: >>1290302

>'I am fighting a noble fight': Why some Russians have vowed to resist Putin's invasion of Ukraine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/i-am-fighting-a-noble-fight-why-some-russians-have-vowed-to-resist-putins-invasion-of-ukraine/ar-AA14Waiy
>Ukraine warns of emergency blackouts after more missile hits
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-warns-of-emergency-blackouts-after-more-missile-hits/ar-AA14WI9z

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Live maps and updates
>Nb: LiveUaMap is not to be trusted
SouthFront: https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/
Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
Andrei Martyanov: https://www.youtube.com/user/smoothieX12

Watch together
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>>1297487
Thank you, I apologize for the link

 No.1297491

>>1297483
you don't need to prove a negative to refute a positive

For example if I say "there is a bowl of ice cream in front of you" when there clearly isn't, all you need to do to refute me is point at the empty table

Proving a negative would require you to entertain all ridiculous possibilities, like the ice cream is invisible, etc.

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 No.1297500

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>>1297481
I mean a Fascist nation, post '45 fascists are just attackdogs for Liberalism.

>>1297489
Its no trouble no need to apologize, I understand the point you were making.

 No.1297518

>>1297478
the tldr of fascism is it's bonapartism for the era of imperialism and war. it treats the total mobilization of inter-imperialist antagonism as a way to overcome the antagonisms of the mass society, which reach an extreme after imperialist war to the point there are revolutionary conditions. imperialism is turned on the home front so the home front can be mobilized as an organic whole in a struggle for national supremacy, which achieves rebirth

fascism in marxism is treated as part of a historical process, a hail mary for the crisis of a capitalist great power. you know how marx describes german 'true socialism', or importing french socialism to immature german conditions where it doesn't apply and therefore can be wielded by the aristocracy to defend itself from the rise of the bourgeoisie? it's like that, except there's not only mature conditions but ones that threaten to undo the modern state created by the bourgeoisie and the aristocracy is relatedly too weak to unite it. thus fascism appears as a counter-revolutionary mass movement

post-soviet russia in contrast is definitely bonapartist, but here 'fascism' just means 'illiberal and rejects the liberal conclusion of international capitalism as it's developed up to this point'. it's not really describing how 'between capitalism and communism there is national ruin, so national supremacy and corporatism it is'. instead, russia just doesn't want to be a european colony and wants to connect to the emergent periphery states of asia, seeing its future in that international capitalism instead. personally, putin reminds me of a mustafa kemal or nasser more than a hitler or mussolini



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 No.1286515[Reply]

I've read some Hoppe recently on his views about how racial discrimination on the level of individual or associational basis is consistent with libertarian principles (i.e the right to not associate) but then he went on this bizzare tangent about how discrimination is not only allowed, but necessary to prevent "uyghurs from destroying civilization like in Rome or Greece"
I find this extremely absurd and authoritarian. For starters, why should an ancap cares about civilization (which is basically a statist construction created to harmonize the different interest and ethnic groups within the country by inventing a new cosmopolitan identity) but also he tried to infuse his personal biases and ideas into the conversation(third world immigration bad)and equate it with freedom and anyone who disagrees on him with this are communists/homosexuals/ bums and inferiors.

This is what i notice with right libertarians in general. They very frequently go from 'freedom is the right to own property' into 'freedom is doing whatever i wanted'. Freedom ceased to be the ability of man to express his inner contradictions unbound by intrapersonal forces and instead a retvrn (or, if you're an NRX an acceleration) into a set of static norms that the speaker parades as the "correct" way to live, be it homogenous traditionalism under Hoppe or liquid high autism score urbanism under Land. It becomes something very Hegelian and authoritarian rather than actually libertarian
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 No.1286673

>>1286515
fascist retards only works with emotion, don't expect rational or even coherent worldview

 No.1286679

>>1286515
You know what your problem is? You take lolberts serious enough to create a thread about them. I’ve made the same mistake and you’ll be unsatisfied every single time. You need to consider lolberts as pure schizos, people who spout crazy shit with no sense or reason.

 No.1296535

>>1286560
I can't fix her, but she can break me

 No.1297511

>>1286515

Ancaps are beyond retarded

 No.1297517

>>1286515
Hoppe is basically the bridge philosopher between Mises/Hayek/Rothbard style lolbertism and reactionary monarchism/nrx/fascism.



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 No.1276560[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss games, who is going to win, who you are supporting.

Or, post stuff about Qatari slaves

Is it right to oppose the Qatari world cup, when European countries have hosted it, and the US will host it, who are by all measures, worse than Qatar, and are also part of the imperial matrix which Qatar is part of. Why should we see it as extra terrible, it is merely the world cup showing its true face. Is Qatar is the Trump of the world cup?
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ARGIE-DUTCH CHIMPOUT
ARGIE-DUTCH CHIMPOUT
ARGIE-DUTCH CHIMPOUT

 No.1297434

Dutchies I kneel

 No.1297435

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Oh no no no. We going to get penalty wins back to back?

 No.1297467

Most kino match yet?

 No.1297515

the good guys won



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 No.1296554[Reply]

I know that r/genzezong is quarantined over “lack of fact checking” and r/latestagecapitalism is tangentially based, but do we have any leftypol related subreddits? A lot of anons shit on Reddit for no reason but it’s effectively a social media we can manipulate if we play it the right way.
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 No.1297411

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>>1297383
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO IGNORE HISTORICAL REALITIES WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONS AND COMMUNITIES OF PEOPLE! CIVILIZATIONS ARE LIKE SPOOKS MAAN

 No.1297418

>>1297371
Funny enough a term the CPC uses for Xinjiang separatism is "narrow nationalism" which is a negative phrase.

Also these nations haven't "always existed." Those national criteria Stalin laid out outlined ethnogenesis campaigns which the Bolsheviks applied across the Central Asian periphery. They were creating new nations by replacing colonial and clan governments with national governments of trained native bureaucrats, with common cultures funded by the state, borders drawn, and standardized written languages made and taught. That's what makes "Stalinism" appealing.

>>1297411
Nation-states are not the same thing as nationalism, which is an ideology.

 No.1297482

>>1297377
There is nothing “based” about twitch e-celebs like Haz and Jackson Hinkle. You’re not a Marxist, you’re just a Larouchite who uses díscord and thinks the 2036 memes are funny and not cringe.

 No.1297506

>>1297377
>based/cringe
>pepe

Please fellate a tailpipe

 No.1297514

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Nationalism will fade under socialism, it is inevitable. The rise of the concept of a nation originated in the 17th century Westphalian system and the french revolution and is thus coterminous with the rise of capitalism itself. Nationalism and the very conception of the "nation" are an extension of the 'bourgeois rationality' Engels so thoroughly debunked in socialism: utopian and scientific. The nation as a polity must therefore necessary wither away along with the state under higher stage socialism/communism.

Anyone claiming otherwise is a theorylet or a vulgar distorter of Marxism.

This is extremely basic shit for any Marxist, sad to see how dumbed down /leftypol/ has become.



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 No.1272294[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

MY CHANCES OF A SUCCESSFUL COUP ARE DEAAAAAAAAD edition

Bozo might be currently crying in the bathroom nonstop since October 30 and/or fighting erysipela. In any case, his continued absence from the public is also deliberate as it provides his horde of mouthbreathers hope that he might be magically reinstated somehow – the similarity with Qanon bullshit is definitely not a coincidence. The road blocks lasted just a few days, the camps in front of barracks and military HQs are thinning down and the Supreme Court finally started acting against the porkies financing that bullshit. So their current "plan" is to call for a truck drivers' strike, tho it looks more like begging than calling.
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 No.1297245

>>1297244
This but unironically

Hope Morocco wins against Portugal

 No.1297254

>>1297245
morrocco is shit though algeria is better and portugal is socialist and i will not elaborate further

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 No.1297278

reação do Mick Jagger brasileiro.

 No.1297510

For me? It's Portugal.



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