/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>4051
Gay misandrist, give me your discord, let's talk

>>4051
Cock and ball torture. Y/N?

>>4085
>discord
I also kindly request your contact gay misandrist, but not through discord.

>>4058
>For the gay guys in particular: WORK OUT EVERYDAY. Be strong, be buff, learn self defense

But I dont want to be strong and buff. I want my body to be feminine, not buff and masculine. Masculinity disgusts me and thats partially why I hate hetmoids so much. Imagining myself with a buff body makes me unironically want to vomit

>>4088
You can still get stronger than now without being buff

same here
except i hope you're alright and get back in touch every day

>>3768
So let me get this straight, you:
>like the idea of love
and
>feel jealous of others' relationships

but you also
>get drained rapidly by social interaction
and
>never liked anyone romantically

Maybe you enjoy thinking and fantasizing more about a romantic relation than actually being in one? Like some people might fantasize about fighting or being an explorer than actually going through the risks and hardship those would entail. No offense intended, you're far from the only person who (might) do this.

>>3814
OP here. It's better now, I don't think about her nearly as much. If I could go back and do it better, sure. But I didn't lose much special.
Mind I ask your story anon?

>>3455
Force yourself to have sex with someone else. I've been through this recently and it's as disgustingly simple as that. The body leads and the heart follows

>>3768
Romance as a special category of socializing is bullshit and worthless. The only quintessentially romantic thing is enmeshment and mutual idealization. These are harmful. Ask yourself if you enjoy/are relaxed in their presence, and if you have good sexual chemistry (literally chemistry, like u enjoy how they smell and taste and all that). If these are both yes, you've found a winner. They check the fundamental boxes. Everything else is negotiations.

I say negotiations because including someone in your life means re-arranging your life a little to make space for them.

Based on your situation there are certain considerations. There are essentially 4 positions. 1: you both have full lives, but you need someone to fuck. This relationship is mainly about sexual chemistry and basic trust. You don't need to love who they are as a person or match them in everything. Your lives intersect minimally, where necessary. You may grow to love them or share more in common with them over time but that isn't necessary. 2 and 3: one of you has a life and the other is kind of a loser. The one with a life gatekeeps and focuses on not losing their center (i.e. not losing what makes them valuable in the first place, which is their self-completeness), and the other one chases and attempts to demonstrate value while weaseling into the other's life more and more. Figure out which one you are and act accordingly. 4: you both have no life. This is perfect for Romance. Success in this configuration requires similar interests, experiences, personalities, etc. Maybe triggering each other's childhood wounds and broken sense of what love is. You are each other's soulmates, it is fated love, etc. You both have nothing else going on, so you can make each other your whole world.

If you're politically active that basically already puts you in the "has a life" category so you should look for either someone who minimally enters your life, or someone who totally worships you, spends money on you, makes you laugh, makes you orgasm, generally makes your life easier and more fun (while not gumming up the works and makingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I found myself in a relationship that started strong only for it to go straight to shit after 3 years. It started after we went a full year with no sex it was then that he revealed that he wasn't gay but asexual the entire time, now I had my suspicions since he didnt like any anal or oral but I let it slide since I was a virgin when we met and was naive, when the fighting stopped after that bombshell we broke up only for covid to hit a week later and for him to loose his job.
Now I don't work as I'm doctor diagnosed autistic and he said that I was never to look for work since he wanted to take care of me. This started an extremely fucked situation since now with my limited tismbux I had to help him until he found work and since the apartment was in my name so if he didn't have any money left he would be homeless (I can't cover his food expenses or phone bill) but even though I was seething with hate over being lied too I didn't want to betray my morals and just throw him into the capitalist death machine so I helped him and now he has a job he likes and we are friends and he takes care of me as we got over our differences since.
Now I'm still a socially retarded mess but stable in life, so in a few months time after that I ended up finding someone else but now it's long distance….but when he came up here to Canada all the way from the states to pound my small pale emo "these scars are proof I'm alive" snow bunny butt in the first time in my life while I wore a kitty maid outfit it was the best time in my life and even though I now only get sex once a year and only see him in person once a year I'm still happy and my ex turned friend enjoys the new dynamic since he can take care of me and himself money wise and he and I like our friendship more though he wants the three of us living together that I find a little weird. The distance sucks and I do get depressed because of it but I can't see myself ever being disloyal it's not in my blood I suppose.
I hope one day he does move up here. Relationships are chaotic…and I guess it's really never known where one can end up.

>>4049
Why would you get angry at him for being asexual though? Especially when he was willing to do sex acts with you. Seems like a weird thing to break up with someone about.

>>3829
>>3847
Op here. I just wanted a looksmatch boyfriend from my area

>>3850
Where do you live?

>>3889
Brazil ☠️

>>3777
For what it's worth, as a dude in the deep south I had a lot of luck using an app for a community which has a lot of queer members (furry) which was more meetup focused. Found a couple of friends and within the first month met a guy I've now been in a committed relationship with for almost two years. I think you need to find community in general. Romance shouldn't even be a primary motivator at this point. Finding real life friends who can relate to you about your sexuality is an emergency situation for you. Isolation is damaging you.

>>4037
The only friend I had abandoned me
In fact I was the one constantly spamming his DC with messages left and right then he started talking less and less and I got the message, I just stopped texting him and he hasn't said anything for 2 weeks, it's time to let go
It is really fucking sad and devastating. We were friends since we were 12

>>3856
OP here, I'm not her so kindly fuck off

Male socialization is definitely hard to overcome, but definitely not impossible, you need to surround yourself with a bunch of moderately woke cis women and theyfabs who are accepting enough to consider you a woman but harsh enough to use social conditioning tactics to get you to adopt female behavior. It’s tough, but I believe in you OP!

>>3869
How am I gonna find a group like that? I dont even know how to surrond myself with people. Social groups and socializing in general feels extremely alien to me

>>3796
>the internal identity can be fundamental without being essential
There is no such thing as internal identity. Identities don’t exist.

>children ie girls/boys are basically genderless
That’s just absurd.

People learn their genders, you are right about that. But I don’t think people really understand how deep learned behavior is when it’s built up through habit, from the beginning of life, and practiced for years.

Your also assuming that there is something there already upon which external societal influences impose gender upon. Your personality was already interpolated from the start, even the desire to be trans is a product of interaction with external influences not some inner desire. If you grew up with sheep herders in Mongolia, you’d probably never even think of being trans.

>>3823
>I don’t have any fashion sense at all
Is this why trans girls dress slutty? They can’t get girl dress so they just lay into the most extreme feminine depictions they see on TV?

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>>3932
>They can’t get girl dress so they just lay into the most extreme feminine depictions they see on TV?
Maybe, I don't really know what most other trans women typically dress like though since I dont know any others irl. But I would probably wear something a bit sltty if it werent for the fact that my body isnt good-looking enough to pull it off. But thanks for the advice to my other post

i feel the same, wish there was more cringe and free trans spaces

>>3942
>considering you find him so annoying and unfunny
i just said i dont find his jokes funny you defensive fucking retard lmfao

do you think friendship can only manifest as being the personal jester of someone else?

>>3940
My honest advice, not that you're obligated to pursue it ofc, is to take a shotgun approach: find other losers online until you meet one with similar interests and compatible personality.
>Nobody will ever like me or want to be my friend or ever love me
Despair talking, seeing as I once said the same as you I can't blame you too much for it.

>>3980
For an autist like me then yes that’s the only possible way for “friendship” to manifest as.
>>3990
I’ve tried that. I’ve joined tons of discord servers with the same interests as me and nobody ever took an interest in me even though I talked often. I’ve never had a real online friend

>>3990
tbh this is just socializing in general. its all a numbers game but normal people already socialize regularly with plenty of different people so its easy to not realize it

do idiots here unironically believe neurotypicals all like each other? thats retarded

>>4031
>MtM
they prefer to be called Astartes

>>4030
Straight women are often uninterested in trans men so many trans men prefer to identify with lesbians, which is not even that unprecedented historically, and find success doing that. Trans women are also finding dates on grindr which is technically a gay male community, pls dont clutch your pearls too tightly

>>4033
>ruining a label for women because they're incels
many such cases

>>4034
FtI - femcel to incel

>>4033
somehow, t4t would remedy all of this but i've been shilling it enough

>>2133
lucky you

its the woke mind virus inside you

More horomones = more libido

>>3987
>>testosterone increasing
>libido increasing
OP's situation's that simple. Wonder if he already met up a bigdickgirl, it's been 4 months.

>>1291
>still can't remove away my desire to be buttfucked by a bigdickgirl and jizzed inside of
Believe you me comrade there's nothing to ashamed.
some of us muscle mommies like to be jizzed inside ourselves

TERFs oppose transgenderism because they are femo-nationalists who think they are standing up for a female nation. Just like most nationalists, they don’t like immigrants. The ability of a man to transition to a woman threatens a worldview which believes women are the same everywhere and that their historic oppressor is the male species. Imagine being a Zionist Jew and suddenly a black guy walks into your synagogue and tells you he identifies as a Jew. That’s basically the mentality TERFs have.

>explaining why they are so fixated on sex and genitals
They are British, that's what I expect from the neurotic weirdo country. TERF biopolitics ideology was probably invented alongside eugenics in the Victorian era when they modernized treating humans like cattle

>>3970
How is fantasying about trans people masturbating in a toilet cabin near the one you are taking a dump in nationalistic in any way?

All you see from terfs is:
- rape in toilet fantasy posting
- trans jerking off in cabins by theirs fantasies
- unhinged posts about genitals
- /pol/ grade cartoons about having facial hair and all three above

>>3983
Sexuality isn’t about pleasure. Its about power. What seems like a weird fetish is in fact a form of mocking and demeaning others and establishing your own moral superiority. This is as true for queers as it is for TERFs. In the TERF case, it’s away of emphasizing they are ‘real’ women and more desirable (I have the correct genitals, I am so attractive unlike an mtf that men want to dress as women to rape me) and also performative victimhood (I am a target of male oppression and sexual violence). According to this logic, trans women are both inferior and feeble but also existentially threatening. How should this threat be warded off? By enacting laws that punish trans women, ejecting them from women’s spaces, subjecting them to surveillance. So what looks like a stupid fetish is a bunch of anxieties and fears. These narratives allow TERFs to paint themselves as morally virtuous agents resisting vicious practices (rape, and they see transgenderism as simply an extension of the male desire to violate women’s bodies). Within their own group, this type of posting is like a moral parable, they serve to teach others to respond to a new moral regime of right and wrong.

>Sexuality isn’t about pleasure
virgin detected

>>3973
>No one denies this
Except you when given direct evidence to the contrary, lol.
You can’t even form a coherent critique, you just spew dumb shit and see what sticks.

Trans and gay people have existed prior to the creation of capitalism, and there were queer cultures prior to its inception.

To do otherwise is to not just be a historical, but to be transphobic and homophobic.

So yes, calling you an ahistoric, transphobic and homophobic moron is a fitting description.

>>3974
>everyone who disagrees with me is transphobic/homophobic
Grow up. I’ve given you a handful of academic sources, all you give me are Wikipedia articles and accusations.

Oh no. I guess Michel Foucault was homophobic. John D’Emilio, esteemed queer historian, wrote about the historic invention of LGBT identities with the rise of capitalism. Professor of history, gay man, somehow was let into the Chicago LGBT hall of fame. I guess he’s a homophobe too. Go take a look at Johnathan Ned Katz, award winning queer historian, his book Invention of Homosexuality (1995). Somehow, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force gave an award to this ahistoric homophobe. It all must be outdated and unhistoric because it’s not what I want to hear. Sure thing buddy.

Literally give me an example where Israelis say “we are bombing those Palestinians because they are queer.” Not homophobic slurs, but proof their genocidal intent is queerphobic in some way. The fact you even claim this is just nuts.

>>3981
> I’ve given you a handful of academic sources, all you give me are Wikipedia articles and accusations.
you mean a bunch of outdated anthropological texts, which again, were disproven ITT.
<but muh wikipedia
You mean the actual site which debunked your claim of there being "no queerness in distinct domain of life". Yeah if I was posting low quality arguments and got debunked my middling quality sources like you, I guess I'd be pretty mad too.

<but these people won awards
And that makes them exempt from criticism? Again, all you can do is parrot shit from the 20th century and get mad when it gets debunked by sources from the 21st.

>It all must be outdated and unhistoric because it’s not what I want to hear.
Unironically, yes.

Because again, you've been using this argument to bash trans and queer people throughout this entire thread.

>Grow up
You first, pookie :^)

>>4002
You need to get it out of your head that “modern construct” is bashing. My PC is modern and so is my Switch. It’s not a dirty word. Nothing wrong with being new.

First of all, scholarly work is about argument and evidence, not how new something is. I could make up some garbage about the moon being made of cheese, publish it, and brag about how it’s better that 30 year old NASA studies because it’s more recent, but that doesn’t make it true. Secondly, you provided no criticism of any of their points.

D’Emilio’s basic argument is that people who had same sex desires or engaged in same sex behavior were distributed throughout society. Industrial capitalism brought them all to cities where they developed a unique culture and identity and the notion of “being gay” was then invented. There’s nothing homophobic or ahistoric about this and simply pointing out that two guys fucked once 500 years ago doesn’t prove D’Emilio wrong.

You want to hold on to some essentialist understanding of identity, that LGBT identities are just baked into nature. Well nothing is. Come back when you’ve learned to do more than lame Wikipedia research and playing the homophobe card.

>>4005
>You need to get it out of your head that “modern construct” is bashing.

>still can't form a cohesive argument and still has to move the goal posts after being thoroughly BTFO
<Come back when you’ve learned to do more than lame Wikipedia research and playing the homophobe card.
Ok, lad.

Just in case you aren't the dipshit who deleted the posts I replied to, or who got banned, this is what I'm arguing against and what you're defending, lol.
>>3910
>>3911

I doubt a homophobe will have much of a fun time on /lgbt/.

>>3630
I wish I could help but I don't have much advice really. I think there are dating places for HIV positive people but idk if that's something you want.

stop normalizing boys kissing, homophobia makes for great angst stories

so… what is a woman?

>>3890
A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk…

>1ne chance at life
>afab
HAHA just fuck everything dood