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No matter what i do, ill never be happy with my body.

If i dont take hrt, ill hit twink death and end up with a disgusting old masculinized body. If i do take hrt, ill end up with shrunken balls and a weird fucked up dick.
Either way, ill still be stuck in a body im extremely uncomfortable in.

Im simply not compatible with this existence. Suicide is the only option left for me
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>>5946
Would have probably been good to open with the fact that you're nonbinary. I'm sure you can find other nb people to ask about getting the body you want. Some specialists might be able to help too but that's always gonna be a toss up.

>>5941

oh i don't mind, if my dick fell off the next day i'd be perfectly fine with it.

i might freeze some sperm tho.

>>5947
> nonbinary
Why has everyone forgotten about gnc?

>>5947
I dont think im nonbinary either. Closest to what i want to be is a femboy, but it seems impossible to be a femboy forever without doing hrt, so im still screwed.

>>5949
>Why has everyone forgotten about gnc?
They literally said they don't want to be male or female, that's called nonbinary.
>>5950
>I dont think im nonbinary either. Closest to what i want to be is a femboy
…okay fine, GNC it is.

I don't think being a femboy with smaller testicles is as bad as you think. They don't even shrink that much. Look into it some more.



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Why does this board have so many falseflagging grifters compared to the 4chan equivalent? Every like third thread in the catalog looks like bait of some kind.

because this is a half dead board. by replying to you i have increased the PPH of this board by 1/3.
the board was added despite a general /meta/ consensus that it wasn't particularly necessary and despite there seemingly being no real plan to make it particularly active by (say) trying to poach a userbase from 4chan.
so far as i can tell, the board hasn't actually hit the maximum number of threads yet. (e.g. no threads have been pruned by the board software to make room for new threads, threads from 9 months ago remain up.)

as a result, every bait thread that doesn't violate the rules remains up. meanwhile on 4chan's /lgbt/, you can expect 15 new threads about the UK's latest transphobic measure to push mild bait off the board in no time at all.

leftypol /lgbt/ is actually faster than my expectations, outperforming most of the other dead boards. unfortunately, this will probably motivate the creation of yet more dead boards with no plans on how to make them not be dead because, if you're unwise, you can read it as a case of "build it and they will come"

>>5888
have you been on 4chan's /lgbt/ recently? it's ALL bait.



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how the fuck did I fuck up like this?
>19, hank-hill pic
>21, hankhillless pic
>21 has no testosterone and higher-than-ciswoman estrogen
>somehow hip dips are worse
>been taking biweekly measurements
>hips were 92cm and waist was 71.5cm before HRT, whr of ~0.77 [pudgier girl]
>hips now are 98cm… and waist 77, whr of ~0.8 [dude, or really really unhealthy woman]
how did I fuck this up so badly?
please do tell me i have not even a voice here :)
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>>5923
no lol i dont, i do wlak everywhere though
>just exercise brah
no lol not how it works
fat + testosterone =>fatty waist [which is happening]
fat + estrogen =>fatty hips/ass [which is NOT happening]

Do more squats, but honestly you're fine, some cis women I know are built like that.

>>5924
I've met tons of cis women that have zero ass and tits and lots of belly fat because they dont do any exercise so idk if its that simple. If you want a fat fucking ass and a slim waist then plank and stomach vacuum daily and also do single leg romanian deadlifts using a plan meant for hypertrophy. Avoid highly processed fatty and sweet foods like cake or chocolate or whatever and start dancing daily (I just shake my hips nonstop while watching random video essays, I don't even lift my feet off the damn floor, its that easy).
I'm a repper yet I had pretty stereotypically femmed up bodily proportions back when I did that shit (nowadays I'm not due to depression however). If you're taking E and do all I said then in a couple of months you should be looking good.

>>5926
ok fine fuck you but understand im serious about killing myself if this doesnt work

Wait, is the skeleton in the second picture supposed to be the "pudgier girl"?



 

Im sure you guys have noticed that people on this site do that thing that is just a carry over from 4chan where people call each other "Newf-word," "Oldf-word," "Draw-word," or whatever, (Can straight people type out the F-slur in this context? I'd rather not find out the hard way) I never personally did that shit myself because I have queer friend who DEFINITELY don't think straight people like me should say that shit and even if they won't know my conscience would feel heavy. But I know that queer people are not a monolith and I was wondering what the majority of people here think of it even if I won't use it either way obviously. I can already image 5 different responses,
1. Most Lgbtqianons people are okay with it
2. Most are not okay with it but don't bother calling it about because they will be labeled "Idpol"
3. Nobody cares
4. It turns out that most people on this site who do that are actually gay themselves
5. A mix of all of the above
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>>5902
Truth mother fucking NUKE. Ironically, as hated as they are while also being derived from another 4chan board (/qa/) the sharty manages to have its own imageboard culture that isn't just wholesale ripped from 4chan or "oldfag" culture. Along with the other /qa/ derivatives like bantculture and such, and even on 4chin you have cultures like /dbs/ that are widely hated because they dared to form their own seperate micro-cultures than adhere to the standard, old, imageboard culture monolith and dared to be different. FUCK IMAGEBOARD CULTURE.

i dont really care if people say fag but id support banning it so that people would come up with better stuff that more accurately reflect our beliefs about things, could always steal some chinese words
other than that what would you really do?

i just don't really care, i ain't that liberal

>>5922
>omg chan culture is stale lets be original and organic
<could always steal some chinese words
just lol

>>5931
do you think we're gonna be making up completely new and original words? it's just gonna be a shortening of some existing one or combining a couple, using an existing word for a new meaning, etc
as long as it represents site culture better than who cares



 

I am posting this in the lgbt board because as a queer person I think a lot of these topics resonate much louder to a queer audience, who's likely given more thought to these ideas.

as some background, me and my girlfriend recently broke up over both being traumatized and her getting tired of my ever worsening situation.

in our current superstructure it would simply be discarded as a inherently codependent trauma relationship that could've never worked and under this understanding of the world the proposed solution is avoiding these relationships completely by simply getting over the trauma before dating.

now, my first question is, what does it even mean to get over trauma? some argue that the first steps are to engage in masking, similar to how someone would hide their neurodivergence. others suggest that getting over trauma is a matter of normalizing to oneself.

neither of these seems to be particularly effective, I understand that trauma cannot be undone but neither of these strategies seems to me like much more than internalizing and individualizing a systemic fault which feels contradictory and self destructive.

now, extending this at large I find myself disagreeing with the liberal capitalist perspective on mental health, I see it as one of my core values to be radically against eugenics and I find the idea of normality repulsive and unhelpful as it is often utilized to justify this line of thinking.
I understand that some deviations from our agreed normality are inherently harmful to others under our existing superstructure but I find it very difficult to justify a culture who glorifies the suppression of any behaviors that aren't helpful to the advancement of the capitalist system.

I have tried to adopt dialectical materialism to form a coherent opinion on what is the appropriate approach to many of these questions. it has helped with identifying contradictions within the status quo but I've been unable to find any reasonable uncontradictory answer to these questions, both within our existing superstructure and within a hypothetical utopian communist society.

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>>5800
>It's true that psychology and psychiatry mostly just gets people to tolerate intolerable conditions (sorry for riffing on that reactoid Ted, but he was right on that point) to make them more compliant with a system that pretty much just mentally assrapes everyone

Not OP, but this is mainly why I feel resistant to the idea of recovering. It feels like im giving the capitalist society that deems me a "freak" the win by trying to change myself to be more like the neurotypical productive normal person society wants everyone to be.

I also have a lot of problems with how psychology views the mentally ill like animals to either study or lock-up. So fuck therapy AND psychology

>>5790
yeah, this is more or less the attitude I have had so far, the problem is that I inevitably end up hurting others when the relapse happens. I want to stop wearing people out, I want to stop falling into the pit of despair.
>>5791
I have spent years of my life trying to train the trauma and it has gotten less severe in some ways but very much stayed in others. my own trauma still makes me vulnerable to experiencing more of it and when this happens I lose progress on all fronts.
I have hobbies, I have coping mechanisms, my problem is that I don't want to keep running away and I don't want to hurt others in the long and difficult process of healing.
>>5792
if only things were so easy… this line of thinking brings you very quickly to the conclusion of killing the person who carries the trauma
>>5795
I find identifying contradictions within my existence and within my mental state rather easy, I have a really hard finding a way to resolve the contradictions that isn't inherently introducing more contradictions.
see the last two paragraphs merge quite easily for me, the current superstructure pushes us to aspire for an idealistic normality, it is very hard for me to answer the question of which parts of my brain should I kill, the liberal capitalist answer to this question with "everything that strays from normality", most of them in practice instead strive for "everything that makes me less valuable to capitalism". now, neither of these seems like a good answer, your nurture shapes you as a human and while some traits are inherently obstructing our existence as social animals, many others are only obstructing our existence under capitalism, or under the broader superstructure (as in conditions created by our current capitalist existence).
now, I also understand that the understanding of normality is constantly shifting under capitalism and I understand that it can be useful to keep an idealistic model of normality but I just don't see it as very humanistic to kill parts of our very existence to accommodate for our superstructure as opposed to shifting our superstructure tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>5789
>what does it even mean to get over trauma?
According to trauma researchers, it's when you can narrativize it and merge it into your cohesive self-conception. But there are also physiological changes from trauma that might not ever go away, e.g. people with ptsd have fucked up endorphin and endocannabinoid systems. And parts of your brain are probably forever marked by it. But like other said, the goal is that when e.g. you're reminded of your trauma, you aren't controlled by overwhelming feelings, instead you remain in control and can work through the emotions.

Also there's things a therapist does that you can't do yourself. Trauma that occurred from an interaction with someone else creates emotional scripts for us that can only be retrained with another person. The therapeutic relationship is part of this (therapy isn't/shouldn't be just the therapist telling you helpful stuff - it also includes their existence as a safe relationship with proper boundaries that you can rely on). Also a therapist can see when we're engaging in denial, projection, etc., or acting out a script/schema. these things are made to not be seen by the one employing them. It's how you mentally structure and pre-process the world in order to make sense of it and render it less difficult to accept. So they can point these out and from that feedback you can begin to maybe see when you're engaging in those defenses or scripts and regain control.

Also not every issue is capitalism… if you were abused at home as a child, and then you leave that home but carry the ingrained responses, they become maladaptive to your current adult life. If that person blames society for triggering them and clings to how they are now as their natural state and contend that it would be wrong to change their nature, they won't ever heal and gain control of themselves. You have to decide if you're going to treat your mind as it is right now as something sacred and immutable, or if you're going to treat it as violable (and probably already very violated) and thus changeable. The goal isn't to give society or the therapist power to mold you, the goal is that you gain control over yourself to mold yourself as you see fit, without being controlled by ingrained responses.

>>5867
>instead you remain in control and can work through the emotions
don't you think there are degrees to this? I have been traumatised by multiple experiences in my life and I've always tried to immediately snap out of the repetitions and to instead focus on survival minimizing the long term damage. this has worked to make the best out of a shitty situation but clearly hasn't worked as well with interpersonal relations. over the years I have observed people with similar issues repeat their traumas over and over and over again, I would like to believe I don't do that.
>Also there's things a therapist does that you can't do yourself.
I am sure having someone who is good at recognizing these patterns and is only bias in the direction of our currently established science CAN help some. I also think that this isn't as infallible as straight forward as you and people like you seem to believe it is. I've been failed by therapy and I've seen so many others around me be, I would really really like to believe that it just is that simple. I believe the existing structure is very much built with horse blinders on and I do believe there is quite a bit of nuance that the science simply ignores.
>Also a therapist can see when we're engaging in denial, projection, etc., or acting out a script/schema. these things are made to not be seen by the one employing them
how do you think regular people act? do you not think that everyone does these things? I am sure that there's some behaviors both you and I have that are completely unhealthy under the analytical lens of a third party, this is a normal part of social existence.
>So they can point these out and from that feedback you can begin to maybe see when you're engaging in those defenses or scripts and regain control
every single one of us, traumatized or not engages in this, every single one of us doesn't have full control over their life. this is a very easy concept to twist and turn, which is why I believe it is very easy to infer something is just a script or a defense when it isn't and they are simply being over-analytical. I believe that the current approach is fundamentally flawed, I believe that we shouldn't treat mental health like physical health as when you do this you end up Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>5912
>don't you think there are degrees to this
Of course. Also i feel like I have to say that not every horrible experience is traumatic (some people come out the other side without it changing them), but the coping mechanisms are part of the thing that makes it trauma. So even if you used really good coping mechanisms that were necessary to get you through, those coping mechanisms can themselves be the problem later on.

>I've been failed by therapy

Same. I've had three therapists, and one was an idiot, one acted stuck up and like she hated me, and the other wanted me to reconcile with my abuser and attributed my (now very obviously) ptsd symptoms to innate causes. So now instead of therapy i just read books. But that's how I learned that there are many models of therapy. Regular talk therapy is one model, made for funneling people towards psychiatrists, helping neurotics and depressives with cbt, and things like that. Then there are psychoanalytic and psychodynamic therapists which focus on long term therapy and forming a therapeutic relationship. This model actually makes sense to me, at least for most people's issues. The first model is i think tailored to no one, since imo it underestimates the extent of the causes of people's issues. Like assuming that a depressed person just needs to be told to try to maintain a structured and active life harder. That might work for some people but many aren't functional enough for just being given the info on what to do and a place to vent to be enough.

>do you not think that everyone does these things

I think everyone engages in defenses, and some defenses are more distorting or harmful and some are more healthy. Projection is a pretty annoying one. Denial gets in the way of trauma recovery. Part of therapy is teaching healthier defenses. Yes most people are somewhat crazy and could use someone to help them with introspection, just like most people also probably need a better education.

>I believe that we shouldn't treat mental health like physical health as when you do this you end up giving up your autonomy to a inherently biased third party who simply lacks your nature and nurture

If a doctor tells you that to stay healthy you should build muscle, eat a balancPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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if you want a trans woman in your life to shut up, just mention every single trait of her body that's clocky and influenced by male puberty to her. hearing it from another person, and giving her confirmation that other people do indeed see it and the testosterone mutilation is indeed real, is bound to make her cry and want to go sulk in bed.

it doesn't matter if she's a stealthing passoid, it doesn't matter if you exaggerate and don't even care about the trait you're pointing out. there's something innate about post-puberty transitioners's minds that just flips a switch and makes them horribly sad for hours whenever someone says these things to their face.


>>5869
What about to them online

Not me! I would briefly remember cishons exist, then home in on my nearest coping mechanism. Only if that didn't work, like hypothetically if i was at a multi-day family event and someone also said something mean in general to me, i would cry.

WOW! cruelly attack a woman's deep insecurities makes them go away and not want to talk to you? Got any other fascinating insights?

I'm not going to do this.



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what's the deal with 4chan transgenders?
i don't know much about 4tran4 im not trans, what kind of stereotype do they have and why are they extremely into looks and passing?

also at this point i don'tknow what a hon is and i need to get it
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>>4957
I dont even know what point you are trying to make atp. You believe in HSTS and AGP shit yet dont use tttt, you claim to hate tttt for being transmisogynistic (which its not) while also claiming to hate hugboxxing for being transmisogynistic (even though hugboxxings whole deal is being so opposite of transmisogyny to the point of making any trait of a trans person out to be an inherently positive trait)
Its like you are a walking contradiction.

>>4959
What kind of psychosis is this

>>4960
>(even though hugboxxings whole deal is being so opposite of transmisogyny to the point of making any trait of a trans person out to be an inherently positive trait)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_and_the_Gardener

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>>5874

stop repping faggot

>>5874
kill yourself, tiny dick

>>5874
Unless something changed in recent years, crystal.cafe is an imagebord for r9k posters larping as women. The only imageboard I know of with sizable female userbase is lolcow.farm



 

Being into femboys doesn‘t make a man gay or bisexual. This may sound like a cope to avoid admitting to being either, but think about it.

Men who are into femboys are usually men who are also into women. And what they are into in femboys is a heteronormative presentation of femininity. Such men are usually not into men who look like men. One could then argue this is a preference, but a preference would mean that they are still into men but merely prefer this type of man. This isn‘t the case for men who into femboys though. Of all the people who are male they aren‘t turned on by any of them except femboys. So it‘s not a preference, it‘s exclusivity. Finally, men who are into femboys are generally not interested in sucking dick or being fucked in the ass.

We either conclude that 1) this is bisexuality but a very, very limited form of it with peculiarities that make it distinct from ordinary bisexuals who are attracted to average men, or 2) it is heterosexuality, but a redefined version whose basis isn‘t biology but certain signifiers and presentation, or 3) these men are standard heterosexuals but given enough female elements the gullible human brain mistakes it for a woman and lights up the horny center of the male brain. Evolution did not foresee cute, horny femboys and therefore didn‘t exclude it as a pointless mating option.
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>>5681
You're a fetishistic autogynoandromorphophile sissy transvestite.
Or just a zoomer.
Basically, you're not gay.

>>5681
That makes you a cool guy who I want to date.
>>5692
There are straight femboys as well but I'm willing to guess a significant number want to be pegged.

I am a gay femboy and im attracted to other femboys. Ive never once in my life been attracted to woman. Also, most femboys do not look like the perfect popular ones online who look indistinguishable from a woman

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>>5090
>words words words
It's a lot more simple than that. Femboys have high estrogen. The purpose of high estrogen is to attract men. Therefore, attraction to femboys and attraction to women are the same attraction.
The idea that attraction is derived from genitals rather than hormone balances is a relatively new and largely nonsensical concept, given that people don't spend most of their lives with their genitals on display.

If butches are lesbian, femboys are gay.



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