/lgbt/ - LGBT

1) I don't use twitter and don't interact with strangers outside so none. One guy crashed out in TF2 after clocking a feminine name in tab but that just let me carry because he neglected his responsibilty as a medic to target me while not understanding weapon matchups, kept screaming slurs and death threats in the mic confused why aimbot wasn't a win button as a brass beast heavy.
2) I know it happens but I don't actively look into it. Definitely see it at least monthly.
3) Soon after gamergate started.
4) Don't think about it in that angle. It's concerning because it's thinktanks successfully making people reactionary from a young age, but I don't stress about it directly.

>>5578
> I know it happens but I don't actively look into it.
How did you stop hatewatching?

>>5579
- Deleted my twitter
- Hid YouTube suggestions with ublock
- resubscribed to channels I considered to not be unhealthy for me via RSS instead of YouTube's built-in subscription system, unsubscribing as I got it onto the RSS reader or decided to let go of a given channel, letting me vet everyone and remove the drama stuff.
- spent some time getting used to healthier web stuff like fedi and neocities.

There's some odd sensation I'd consider a form of withdrawl when you first stop, but it wasn't for long.

Also look into ARG and analog horror review videos like Night Mind, kinda scratches the same itch.

>>4371
Pete Davidson is not ugly tho

>>5515
This
It’s the same thing they do with diagnosing childhood/adolescent behavior as “hormones” or “brain development”

>>5573

Something I was thinking about - the whole 4chan/reddit/gamer white male nerd subculture are vehemently opposed to the idea of empathy, yet they are so obsessed with "cringe" and always talking about how they experience secondhand embarrassment when seeing a person express themselves in a very candid way. They see some autistic kid talking about My Little Pony at school and they feel the embarrassment they imagine they would feel if they were in his shoes. Isn't that a form of empathy? It's misguided incomplete empathy, they're projecting their own feelings into someone else rather than trying to imagine how the actual person feels, but still it's an involuntary empathic response. Why would someone who doesn't have empathy care about some autistic kid embarrassing himself? Also it's strange how the "cringe" label gets applied to the autistic kid, who is described as "cringy", and not the observer who is the one who is actually cringing. Their bizarre use of language betrays what their thought process really is: "I feel embarrassed about who I am and it's your fault."

>>5574
Empathy is painful man.

i love male voices i think they r erotic and sexy

>>5449
>Really? Men don't enjoy music or art and aren't nuanced?
>I've never experienced that.
sure, you'll find plenty of men who are into niche interests, but the male tendency for aggressiveness and competition often turns conversation into pissing contests. the key point i was making is that women are less judgemental and often better listeners. men make snap judgements about everyone they meet, but women are less quick to assume things, on the whole. this also makes women more nuanced in practice, even if lots of men are capable of it.

>>5490
Now this is a cope of I ever heard one.
Yes, men are prone to competition but so are women.
Also women are better listeners in terms of finding flaws to patronize you with
Women also make snap judgements just like men.

>>5490
>women are less quick to assume things

Anon… I don’t know what to say about this. Either you lucked out or you’re just allowing your dispassion for men cloud your judgement

>>5570
>>5569
I notice that usually whenever people like to brag about their favored demographic being more virtuous than their respective counterparts, said favored demographic usually does the opposite of alleged virtue

Semi-relevant

>>5566
Hetmoids are the problem

No, most LGBT people are poor and marginalized, because they're systematically oppressed, duh.

But as with anything, the economically empowered get to have their voices heard.

>>5478

???? i was bumping this to remind myself to respond to this earlier and also so it won’t be archived afterwards wth

>>4941

>Leftypol is unfortunately full of reactionary retards who make the dumbest arguments possible

not surprised. siberia is filled with sexists and hostility from what i’ve observed so far

>>4939
you have to define the category 'middle class' for it to be meaningful. 'LGBT community' should also be defined (do you just mean "LGBT people" or do you mean the specific, online, english-language america-centric LGBT community?)
most of the online LGBT community are downwardly mobile lower middle class westerners, with a weird sort of distribution that means the loudest voices are either unemployed and impoverished (lots of time to post, not much else to do), or upper-middle income. (they do a popular podcast about gay movies and posting hot takes doubles as advertising)

but this is a function of a bunch of selection biases (there aren't too many papuan tribesmen with an income of $444 a year posting in english on twitter.com even before you look for the sub-set who're LGBT, and the sub-set of that sub-set who want to talk about LGBT things with foreign strangers they'll never meet irl) rather than because of the distribution of LGBT people themselves.

>>4939
gay and trans are trve proletarians, unless most of them dislike my take on AI art, in which case they're petit bourgeois roaches being proletarianized

>>5540

my take is better than yours

>>5551
I definitely reccomend fedi over bluesky, bluesky is basically just a bunker a bunch of artists that couldn't wrap their heads around federation stuck to and will probably bail from soon. That said, the average blueskier is fairly normal about advanced queer stuff, but occasionally has discourses you'd expect of like 2014 tumblr or pre-zuckerberg tiktok.

>>5519
>they seem too humanist
humanism is believing in any kind of transcendental essence not just making fun of your larp you stupid pseud

>>5550
who cares
why would i pretend to hold a closed-minded position against some slightly odd but ultimately harmless people trying to be happy just because /pol/ might see me doing it?

normalize kink shaming again

>>5562

kink shaming turns me on

furthermore, why do LGBT people get singled out as somehow uniquely imperialist when the vast majority of cishet reactionaries also support imperialism?

1. because they want to leftwash their anti-LGBT feelings
2. because they're stupid, superficial thinkers allergic to real material analysis.
3. because they project themselves on to foreign countries, which are sometimes anti-LGBT
4. because their aesthetic preferences derive from a point in time when being LGBT was less publicly accepted

this all combines to give you the ridiculous farce of them imagining that when Deloitte has a pride float, that means they're the ones "pushing" things rather than them being pushed to respond to bottom up pressure. (until it was counteracted by top-down pressure from the US government)

>>5255
Working-class men materially rely on the coercive extraction of women's domestic labor in the family. The workers are misogynist and queerphobic because they materially benefit from the status quo.

>>5257
Actually spot on.
#1 being the most relevant given this board's userbase.
You have to keep in mind a lot of leftypol users were far-right less than a decade ago. Eventually they realized some of what they believed was retarded, but to acknowledge that EVERYTHING that believed was wrong would cause ego death, so they're still clinging onto what they can. This leads to all kinds of mental gymnastics and laundering reactionary ideology as leftism.

>>5255
>Recent
This has been going on since wall street, and it was a genuine problem with Obama's presidency, Biden's, and also the fail runnings of Kamala and Clinton.

>>5256
Idk it could be Haz, it also could be because liberal movements like feminism and lgbt stuff failed to be desirable by 3rd worldist since those liberal movements werent anti-imperialist prob bexause of their white/american supremacy baked into them

>>5257
Are u an anarchist

I don't use public pools, which is probably a factor as to why I've never been all that dysphoric aside from my face.

Can we stop with this stupid fucking "take your meds" meme already? Meds didn't magically cure your brain and make you come out as trans that is utterly absurd and you know it. It was obviously a long and difficult personal journey of self-discovery and you did the work figured it out yourself, meds had nothing to do with it. Stop externalizing.

Also you were the same person when your uncle was alive as you are now, you existed back then, that was part of your life too, your identity is one continuous everchanging whole that has always been there from the day you were born and you have been gradually figuring it out and evolving as you go through life just like you are supposed to. Your uncle knew you, he didn't get the chance to know you exactly as you are today in the most recent update, but he still knew you and it's not your fault that he died and can't be here to see you right now. He just died, it happens. Nothing you can do about it, nothing you could have done about it.

Also just because you realized that you are trans and not nonbinary doesn't mean that the same thing is true of me and other nonbinary people, you can validate yourself without having to invalidate other people in the process, you realize that right?