Yes, yes, it's ANOTHER thread about hauntological shit. But isn't vaporwave, by the process of aestheticization inherent in it, ultimately a celebration of all the soulless corporate trash it purports to poke fun at? I realize I'm generalizing somewhat and not all vaporwave necessarily has anything, positive or negative, to do with capitalism. But if you listen to something like Ferraro's Far Side Virtual, or Luxury Elite's TV Party, doesn't it conjure an image that seems genuinely desirable, even if it's empty? Even at its most uncanny (like a lot of the "broken transmission" subgenre) doesn't it aestheticize its subject matter and thus make it more bearable if not outright enjoyable? Isn't that why the aesthetic has taken off to begin with?8 posts omitted. Click reply to view.
Is there any way to really pull off this "ironic" approach to music without ultimately producing either a celebration of what you're trying to attack or something that nobody actually wants to listen to? If we wanted to turn this method against capitalism could we instead create nostalgia not for the ultracapitalist 80s but for times of greater cooperation and a genuinely functioning society? Would there even be any point to doing so?
WHAT THE FUCK IS VAPOR WAVE YOU FUCKING KDIS
>>1263>I guess Marx and Engels aren't real socialists considering they were big fans of classical music and many composers from their period and before.
link to their spotify liked pages?
seriously tho what artists did they like
I don't know. It gets more obvious with subgenres like mallsoft which seems to intentionally give feeling of emptiness that consumerism doesn't fill, anxiety caused by pressure it induces and gently reminds the listener of decaying capitalist infrastructure and that capitalism itself too could fall. Though that's just me pretentiously saying it sounds like haunted malls.
you realize theres like 100 different subgenres right?
how is this shit a "critique of capitalism" or related to politics at allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGYVw04U2tU
Here's the catch: even if the image is genuinely enjoyable, vaporwave is mostly about a lost future
that capitalism vaguely promised rather than about any period of actually existing capitalism. You might well say it promises a vision of a desirable capitalist "future", but that "future" is the future of the long-passed. It's a future capitalism promised, something which was designed to be desirable but which never had the discomfort of becoming reality and suckin-
oh i've already written this post lol slow boards >>1260