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I just find it amusing how Palestine has become a blue-state-red-state culture war issue.

Antisemities will be put in reeducation camps

If she really cared about Palestine she would be on the flotilla right now with Greta.

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>>9008
So we see Stockhausen adopting all the hallmarks of the genius of popular legend: arrogance, intractability, irrationality, unconventional appearance, egomania.

But all this is a small-scale operation compared with the tactics of the ruling class against the direct class enemy, the working class.

In this area we find tactics comparable to the ‘saturation bombing’ technique of the Americans in Vietnam.

There are two main lines of attack.

First wide-scale promotion of the image of bourgeois culture in its prime, the music of the classical and romantic composers (the whole education system is geared to this).

Second, the promotion of massproduced music for mass consumption.

Besides bringing in enormous profits, their hope is that this derivative music (film music, pop music, musical comedy, etc.) will serve for the ideological subjugation of the working class.

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>>9009
The Nazi campaign against ‘degenerate’ art is viewed differently by different classes.

For the bourgeoisie, the main victims in this campaign were the bourgeois avantgardists: Klee, Kandinsky, Schonberg and others whose work did in fact reflect the ideological degeneration of the bourgeoisie into metaphysics.

From the proletarian point of view, the main victims were the Communist artists of the Weimar Republic: Georg Grosz, Käthe Kollwitz, Hanns Eisler, Bertold Brecht.

The German capitalists brought the fascists to power as a last resort, a desperate gamble to stave off collapse.

On the cultural front their attack was twopronged: on the one hand they suppressed the culture (the bourgeois avant garde) that reflected the bankruptcy and weakness of their own class, and on the other they suppressed the culture that reflected the growing consciousness and militancy of their enemy, the working class.

The antisemitic line of the campaign was just a red herring.

There was no need for the Nazis to ban Mahier’s works, for instance, but they did because he was a Jew.

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>>9006
stockhausen is for new age nerds

real chads listen to boulez

Good thread. Bump coz it rocks

>>9061
>a fellow boulez enjoyer
Fuck yeah

>>15221
this is what i used to listen to what i worked in a factory and was literally a proletariat

>>16344
I often go back and forth between Sgt Peppers, White Album and Abbey Road for which is their peak

>>16367
i agree. my favourite beatles song ever is "i want you (she's so heavy)" from abbey road. when i was younger, it was "a day in the life" on sgt. peppers. sometimes i think "across the universe" from let it be is no. 1. "cry baby cry" from the white album has just been living rent free in my head though. other interesting songs are "sexy sadie" from the white album, which if you notice, clearly inspired "karma police" by radiohead. parts of "long, long, long" from the white album also sound like lennon's later song "god". another inspiration ive noticed is the extended version of "dig it" from let it be sounding very much like the ending of tally hall's "spring and a storm" with the chord progression and harmonies. tally hall is also one of my favourite bands.

>>16394
blessed, please post more of this

>>5092
All ethnicties are settlers uygha, see you in the ethiopian foothills

>>5092
being settlers is trad tho.

>>5086

test

UOOOOOOH 😭😭😭

Back when I used TikTok it seemed like every viral song on there was popular due to animation memes and amv edits months prior. So this isn't so much the TikTok-ification of the top charts, but rather TikTok being mostly in touch with what's popular on YouTube.

Like TikTok has taken the role of what reddit was to tumblr, twitter, etc… for a long time.

>>16361
songs that enter the billboard charts by like sombr and ravyn lenae do not have animation memes and amv edits months prior. tiktok is just serving what you want to see which in your case is some cringe weeb part

>>16347
Because it's all about love.

We never spend time talking to ya
So we figured we'd lay it on ya
Let you know how we feel about love

Hmm, paint a pretty smile each day
Lovin' is a blessing, yeah
Never let it fade away
It's all 'bout love, yeah

Build yourself a true romance
Beauty that surround you
You deserve just one more chance
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>>16347
Yes they are.

appealing to very common but exceptionalised and overvalued emotions/drives, it sells well

1. "Popularity" of song mainly measured by exposure to song, which marketing firms can brute force big numbers.
2. Love songs can be abstract enough to avoid saying anything scrutable about capitalism
3. Reminding people of the expectations put on them by bourgeois superstructure to be in a relationship can help induce dysphoria, leading to purchasing things or engaging with media to alleviate that.

Basically the ideal genre to play in the tech isle at Walmart or the radio.

>>16347
People are lonely and horny yes. Universal themes that reach the widest possible audience. Also people tend to want to fuck the singers so love songs let them fantasize.