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Music is the biggest lie ever told. Every day, it suckers people out of millions of dollars and untold hours of time. It springs from an infantile desire to be comforted by a mother's lullaby. Music keeps the masses enslaved.
Why do you listen to music? Is it a crutch to get you through the day? When you go to a concert, what on earth do you get out of it? Do you feel "warm fuzzies" when you are walking out of the building? Maybe it makes you feel all happy inside. Well, the real world isn't like that. Music has no answer to the problem of evil. As long as you are a listener, you have no chance of fully participating in a rational discussion.
Ask a professional musician (professional shamster, more like) why he plays his kind of music instead of another and you'll never get a straight answer. What makes a clarinet better than a Japanese koto? Why play jazz instead of classical? "I like it more." "I'm more familiar with it." Non-answers. "They're about the same." Then why play music at all?
Musicians tell you they love their fans… then they sell the T-shirts and CDs at the door. Some even take donations– as long as they can separate the marks from their money, their gig is a success. Music is nothing but an organized scam.
From the beginning of a child's life, her parents indoctrinate her to believe in a myth called "music". They force her to believe that certain arrangements of sounds is somehow more important than other ones. Never in the history of humankind has a more insidious waste of time and money been conspired. Start her on Baby Mozart; buy her "children's music" (the very name betraying the unethical, Orwellian scheme); raise her on piano and jazz, and buy her a Beatles CD on her 16th birthday. The most popular songs lie to you: "All you need is love." Others are simply nonsense: "Bye, bye Miss American Pie." Some songs have no lyrics at all! They do not even make an attempt at meaning. The veil is lifted; the stupidity of the whole exercise is transparent before everyone, and yet they continue listening as if brainwashed.
When I point this out to the thoughtless listeners, they tell me not to argue with something so "beautiful". Can't they see that they are wasting their time on mere noise, that rarely says anything akin to common sense? "Well, Shakespeare, he's in the alley / With his pointed shoes and his bells, / Speaking to some French girl, / Who says she knows me well." What on earth is that supposed to meaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>Why do you listen to music? Is it a crutch to get you through the day?
yeah. it's certainly not the worst kind of opium.

>>12470
thinking about that article about how sad the taliban guys were when the americans left and they no longer got to be le cool insurgents riding around on motorcycles dealing heroin, but had to be bureaucrats and administrators

>>12485
>Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwoods no arguments buzzwords buzzwords
Touhouchads live rent free in the empty barrier that is your head

Okay but consider it's use for direct action: if you play just the right combination of chords in earshot of a CEO you might inspire them down a path of self-destruction and collateral of their fellow bourgs. You just gotta ignite their hubris. No one is immune to music, not even deaf people, since they can feel it a bit in the ground / other stuff.

>>12457
>Marxists admitting their inability to mobilize the masses by complaining about art in one imageboard post



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Was he in the wrong?
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>>12314
>>12322
>>12323
right wing retards online hate him because fantano did a massive heel turn literal seconds after the fader dropped an exposé on him which miracolously worked. i have the suspicion that fantano spent a pretty fucking penny lawyering up and SLAPPing the shit out of everyone who even mentions thatistheplan, but even taken that into consideration if you think about it, it's nothing short of a miracle that fantano has managed to sell this yass queen liberaloid poersona after having sam hyde, namedropping 4chan /mu/ in public talks several times, going on sargon's stream, having an anti-sarkeesian tirade on his tumblr, etc. then again, the chapo boys had also an edgy streak to them before hitting it big, so it's probably more likely than it seems.

>>12333
You guys sound like you just can't handle someone changing their mind

>>12388
I'm skeptical of people who do a 180° turn overnight and proceed to never acknowledge their past misconceptions/wrongdoings. It reeks of opportunism (in the vulgar sense of the word). I much prefer the way iDubbbz went with it: very slowly, transparently, and sincerely, even if he's still a lib.

>>12316
GYATT

> TND
Does he know?



 

why does it feel like music "stopped" around 2015-2017? can't really think of any really big musical event after that apart from Kanye's Wyoming albums
maybe i'm just being too subjective idk
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>>8088
Punk rock is more o lss the same thing

Kendrick is mediocre, has no quotables, and his production was pretty heavy-handed on tpab.

>>8099
All genres stagnate, incorporate new elements and get refreshed into new genres.

Jazz is always popping, although I haven't seen any big recorded artists since Thundercat and Kamasi Washington, whose last studio albums came out in 2017/18

Copyright claims for "plagiarizing" music. Musicians are often forced to use melodies they don't like, but they want fane and money. That's why the music went shittier.



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ITT instruments or equipment you want but will never be able to affordanarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism
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>>4002
Elektron prices way too high for what I assume are just a membrane pad and SoC board and LCD display and in/out ports in a plastic case
Same with Teenage Engineering
Swedish assholes
Their factories are probably in China anyways

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I gotta start saving up for this combo

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I almost bought it when I was in high school like 14 years ago and decided not to. I regret that decision to this day.

Rickenbacker 4003 or 4001.

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My problem is I already have too much and these things are so cumbersome to move. I want to get a Hammond organ and cabinet. I think the x-66. It's like the classic B3 but better.



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Why does everyone think this album sounds bad? I'm not a musician nor do I have a trained ear but I didn't think it was inaccessible when I listened to it.

I genuinely hate this album. /Mu/ tricked me into listening to it like, eight times, and I hated every listen.

I like this album, unironically, but sometimes the sound of this album was either funny or disgusting, due to atonality,/ or maybe Beefheart's harsh voice.



 

Zoomers: Somebody That I Used To Know
Millennials: Feel Good Inc.
Gen X: Smells Like Teen Spirit
Boomers: Another Brick In The Wall
Silent Gen: That's Life
Greatest Gen:0:30




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Why do communist NERDS dislike jazz?
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>>8493
>>8495
>>8494

its ok to say its 2deep4u whitoids

>>8509
>jazz has to bop or its made by white people

the 'bop' is to make it palatable to white people, you have it backwards.

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>>8491
I dont disagree with you the white people had a place in the early formation of Jazz; just that at the time of its early formation it was catergorized as 'black' and put into the narrow box; this is evidenced by the framing around the cotton club and shit we discussed earlier

>>8501
All blues music after WWII and especially Civil Rights is dogshit
Black people stopped suffering to make good music
Good for them I guess

>Adorno posting
Adorno never really hated jazz, cause he never really studied it, he was studying why popular music was popular and big band white jazz happened to be what was popular in his day
>Benny Goodman, Frank Sinatra, Dick Jurgens
lets be honest, if you had to listen to these guys as well, you'd also think it'd suck ass compared to some of the best classical modernists such as Berg or Webern.

the thing is Adorno doesn't really hate Jazz, he hates all pop music, and the reason he hates it is because he took his work as a philosopher seriously, and he honestly took pop music seriously to the point where he couldn't deny how terrible it was. To him pop music represents a music that can be consumed and played to fit a role in society, and Adorno felt like art music shouldn't ever be exploited or used in this way, it should defy law and society.



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>reading about vaporwave and other 2010s genres (including ones that aren't just samples slowed, chopped and changed) for nostalgia purposes
>start seeing all the musical genre discussion, namedropping artists, people talking about their craft, discussion of technique, cliques, whatever
>start seething again that despite being a passable artist, 3d modeller, and programmer, i cannot and will not ever understand how to make music
fuck musicians. every other group can make a tutorial but not them. oh, go learn sheet music, learn all these italian terms for shit. bro you can do it with all these online resources out there (btw i had pro music lessons since age 5 hehe). fuckers. ask an artist and he'll show you how to draw a cube, or even break down an existing drawing for you. ask a programmer and he'll show you how to type up hello world or make basic game mechanics or whatever. ask a 3d modeller and he'll show you the donut tutorial. useful, practical advice that you can use. musicians? uhh, practical advice? uhh i dunno bro ~just do what sounds good~. show you? why would i do something like that? idk bro download a midi, look at that wall of blocks and just understand it, okay? just do that but different… just do what sounds good…
fuck you, how about i learn how to surgically replace your arms with lobsters. huh? does that sound good buddy? get out of my ears, worm.
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>>12368
i want to know how chord progressions translate into what notes you actually play, specifically whether you can repeat the same chord within the progression before "moving on" (i.e. play the I chord 4 times and have it still count as the I phase of the progression, then move on to V and play it 3 times…and so on.)

basically: if i play the "C" chord on a piano 4 times, can that be the first part of an I-V-vi-IV progression (i.e. it only "progresses" when you pick a new chord, but you can play that chord over and over as much s you want), or would doing that create an "I-I-I-I" progression because you can only play the chord once.

>>12370
basically my question could be turned around to: on a guitar you can keep your hands on C and strum away while still being in the "I" part of this progression, on a piano can you keep mashing "C" in the same fashion? every time i've typed the note of a chord in a confusing way, imagine strumming the guitar or playing that chord on the piano. (i.e. Strum C, wait 2 beats, Strum C, Strum G 4 times, Play C, wait 2 beats, Play C…)

or if you like: is the key part of a chord progression playing the chord or the chord change? if you play the same chord twice, does that count as the second phase of the progression, or does it stay in the same phase until you pick a new one?

>>12373
i tried this and ran into the problem i was content with music at a much simpler level than was necessary to understand it. like, i'm happy not playing chords at all and just finding melodic versions of tunes i like. that's relaxing to sit and play but it didn't teach me anything.

>>12375
>i tried this and ran into the problem i was content with music at a much simpler level than was necessary to understand it. like, i'm happy not playing chords at all and just finding melodic versions of tunes i like. that's relaxing to sit and play but it didn't teach me anything.
Well, anon, the learning comes from analysing what you've played. Could you give an example of a melodic version of a song you like?
>basically my question could be turned around to: on a guitar you can keep your hands on C and strum away while still being in the "I" part of this progression, on a piano can you keep mashing "C" in the same fashion?
NTA but this seems like more of a piano-playing question than a theory question. I'm no pianist, but as far as I know pretty much anything goes. Listen to the piano in Mr Blue Sky, for example, which has the pianist playing straight quarter notes for most of the verse, and then something like Don't Stop Me Now, where Freddie plays it as a broken chord and does some fancy rhythmic stuff incorporating both hands. It's just about whatever fits the feel of the song.

>>12375
>if i play the "C" chord on a piano 4 times, can that be the first part of an I-V-vi-IV progression (i.e. it only "progresses" when you pick a new chord, but you can play that chord over and over as much s you want), or would doing that create an "I-I-I-I" progression because you can only play the chord once.
you could play C major for as long as you want and it would still be written as I-V-vi-IV, since that denotes the chord 'changes' and not necessarily how many times each chord is played

>>12375
>basically: if i play the "C" chord on a piano 4 times, can that be the first part of an I-V-vi-IV progression (i.e. it only "progresses" when you pick a new chord, but you can play that chord over and over as much s you want), or would doing that create an "I-I-I-I" progression because you can only play the chord once.
Ooooooh, I see what you mean now. This is an interesting question, because if the chord doesn't change, it wouldn't be a progression so much as a vamp. It kind of depends on context. Like, I'd say that the verse from Ever Fallen in Love by the Buzzcocks is a chord progression, albeit a very simple one. The first chord is held for almost two bars, then another is played, then it is returned to, then the second chord is played, then a third. I'd write that progression as

vi-V-vi-V-I


I wouldn't write

vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-vi-V-V-V


because that takes ages and is silly. If I wanted to show rhythm and meter as well as chords, I'd use a chart, either incorporating numerals or the Nashville Number System (but I don't know how that works, so don't ask)

>>12336
its because theres natural talent involved anon. No matter what not everyone will be a good singer



 

itt: outlaw music


>>12264
>"outlaw music"
>look inside
>song about a cop killing an outlaw

Renzo Novatore approves this thread.

I'm curious: is there nihilist outlaw music? Nietzschean outlaw music?

>>12313
I don't know, maybe this song counts?

People say I'm no good
And crazy as a loon
'Cause I get stoned in the mornin'
I get drunk in the afternoon
Kinda like my old blue tick hound
I like to lay around in the shade
And I ain't got no money
But I damn sure got it made


'Cause I ain't askin' nobody for nothin'
If I can't get it on my own
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