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why do leftists always make banger songs?
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A damn good question.


🎶One little, two little, three little pink slips, four
Where family values are a value most can't afford
Rally 'round a cage to the new hit songs
Rally 'round a cage called "How could we be wrong?"
Rally 'round a cage
Come on, do the goosestep to a state subsidized sing along🎶

>>15462
go to 0:55 if you wanna skip the lo-fi acoustic intro and get right to the slammin’ punk rock 😃🤘

>>15429
>why do leftists always make banger songs?
Communist music is almost classical in its themes. It's like: heroism, bravery. These positive virtues are encoded in the music and the emotional impression that it's trying to convey. And that's coupled with huge choruses since communism is supposed to be a mass thing.

This shit slaps so hard

i mean what would conservative music be about?
"yeah yeah uphold traditional values (pentatonic riff)"



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The "nerds in hip-hop" discussion is ridiculous because they all end up abstracting "nerd" to reflect various types of intelligent and/or intellectual expression they don't like. So it almost always funnels down to a "rap is for ignorant incoherent blacks always on weed and crack" logic. If it then circles back to its original premise of "white nerds and execs took the culture out of the game" then that's a nothingburger convo, taming down the aspects of services that don't match bourgeois tastes is inevitable, since all art is made for bourgeois audiences anyways.

Hip-hop is already far too globalized, subsequently curated and promoted to cater to middle-class tastes and sensibilities world over; it's too far gone. These days any conversation that takes hip-hop back to its social roots is hardly insightful yap about how art is consumed in bourgeois society, or other uninsightful, unnuanced, corny social commentary that often devolves into leftie hotep type racism or the milquetoast rightoid kind, especially since these tend to be the only types that fixate on the question, obviously without inquiry.
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The "nerds in poetry" discussion is ridiculous because they all end up abstracting "nerd" to reflect various types of intelligent and/or intellectual expression they don't like. So it almost always funnels down to a "poetry is for ignorant incoherent British always on hash and snuff" logic. If it then circles back to its original premise of "Dutch nerds and execs took the culture out of the game" then that's a nothingburger convo, taming down the aspects of services that don't match bourgeois tastes is inevitable, since all art is made for bourgeois audiences anyways.

Rhyming verse is already far too globalized, subsequently curated and promoted to cater to middle-class tastes and sensibilities world over; it's too far gone. These days any conversation that takes rhyming verse back to its social roots is hardly insightful yap about how art is consumed in bourgeois society, or other uninsightful, unnuanced, corny social commentary that often devolves into leftie Irish type racism or the milquetoast rightoid kind, especially since these tend to be the only types that fixate on the question, obviously without inquiry.

>>16173
at best it's pretty rudimentary math, and performance arts isn't nerdy, tho it isn't exactly a stereotypical jock chad interest either ig

>>16214
Well the math is as simple as ya want it to be. Livecoding music can get pretty wacky with it.

frank ocean's 'blonde' is garbage

>>16170
Hiphop is undergoing a similar development as jazz did in the 60s and 70s. From a frowned upon counter-cultural movement to an art form respected by academics and institutions, which in a racist, majority white settler state, are gonna be white. As a result i do think we're getting some of the most artistically subtle production and lyricism the genre has seen, but it also results in it moving away from being a vehicle of black working-class expression. I think that's just kind of inevitable for any genres that reach this level of popularity.

That being said, hiphop has actually done an impressive job at staying in touch with the culture on the streets, and the most successful artists are generally that can pull off both. Rappers that cater to the nerds exclusively stay underground, or get that nerd stench on em eventually.



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a Nazi teenager enjoying the best quality of life in the western hemisphere recording an album with a playmobile cassette deck or whatever, about how miserable existence is
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>>16235
Idk. Northern lands can be dreary in the winter, especially in the cities.
I cannot imagine how grim it is in Eurasia in November thru March after sunset.

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>>16237
>I cannot imagine how grim it is in Eurasia in November thru March after sunset.

>>16237
Yeah im sure you would love tropical Haiti a lot more
Fucking crackers, nothing is ever enough to please them

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>>16219
It's valid because existence itself is suffering, even if you're on the top, to think communism or being rich will magically turn your life into blissful contentment is naive utopianism, sure it would improve life but it doesn't resolve existential angst and the problem of evil.



 

Is experimental music inherently leftist music? If so, what makes it so? Can anyone name a right-wing experimental musician? No, Zappa doesn't count. (I suppose Italian futurists would count, but that was over a century ago)

Death in June, Ariel Pink maybe? Depends on what you consider experimental.

mikko aspa

A large part of the noise/industrial scene is right wing. For an article from the early 2000s about this, look up "Apoliteic music: Neo-folk, martial industrial and 'metapolitical fascism'"

everything good is left-wing. left wing is synonymous with good. bad things are right wing. this stems from the sun rising in the west (left) and setting in the east (right).



 

post conservative and rightoid music of any genre.
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Gjallarhornit/Birdbath is a retarded larper who is infamous in the incelcore scene for being a notorious song thief and an obnoxious edgelord.
That being said - he has one of the loveliest voices I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw27lShMDUs

just find skinhead bands, its a shame its dominated by right wingers, especially japanese skinhead bands are like 99% right-wingers. hell the creator of kengan ashura is a vocalist of one that screams about all sorts of nationalist stuff

>>15703
She sounds like she has a sore throat.

Zigger anthem

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Geddy Lee seems to have a Stockholm Syndrome about Germans, as he let the German drummer into his space.
Do you remember? They were first an edgelord band that loved Ayn Rand and hated people but now they are democrats.
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They're too old they're doing like seven shows or so.

>>16193
But Geddy said he regrets not getting to Poland and Europe.

That may be, but like I said geddy and Alex are old. They might add some European dates. I wouldn't bank on that happening thk

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Why is this still on the old page? If it's moved why is it still there, locked? What kind of outfit are you people running around here?

Closer to the HEAAARRRRT!

Democrats are better than Ayn Rand shit.



 

Do you believe music has the power to change the world?

**“Sexual identity is dead,” says Foucault. If pretextual nationalism holds,
we have to choose between precapitalist textual theory and subsemanticist
deappropriation. Therefore, the subject is contextualised into a capitalist
neodialectic theory that includes culture as a totality. **

If singing changed anything they'd make it illegal

>>16202
various types of music are illegal in many parts of the world



 

communism's favorite 12-tone sicko

post rare nonos or other leftist modern symphonic that you vibe with

<the body was short or empty


okay look mods this rule works for the main board but not for culture sharing boards. I mean, really.

this is the only proletarian classical piece



 

Call me woke, but I do believe XXXtensioncord’s popularity is what inadvertently lead to the rise in Gen Z conservatism.

X was frequently lambasted for being a wifebeater, misogynist, homophobe, New Age woo believer, social conservative (he spoke out against anti-racist activists), and pretentious asshole. The mainstream media didn’t want to touch him because he was too controversial. Yet, the more he was “cancelled” and despised for all his ills, the more it added to his allure among zoomers. X’s image was that of a deeply disturbed troubled genius whose pain and anger lead him to violence and nihilism. He was cold and cruel but that’s exactly what made him so appealing as a rapper to begin with.

This, I believe, was the gateway drug that turned a lot of zoomers (in particular, zoomer men) into far-right conservatives and fascists. All those zoomers who were listening to X back in 2017-18 while in middle school or high school voted for Trump in last year’s election. They are the same people who listen to Joe Rogan, Andrew Tate, and Jordan Peterson. It’s identical to how all the Gen X nonconformists who idolizes Kurt Cobain went on to become a Big Tech innovators or how millennials who spent their teen years listening to emo rock ended up becoming SJWs (since the essence of emo music is trauma and mental illness/neurodivergence). It’s all because X was cancelled time and time again before he was clout martyred, then smeared over and over again after death. Zoomers who loves him saw that and began internalizing X’s persona as well as resentment towards a morally-obsessive cancel culture.

It makes perfect sense once you think about it.
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XXXTentacion was also a pedo who fucked a 15-year old girl when he was 19 and already a successful rapper. She committed suicide and he used her name as a song title (“Jocelyn Flores”). Her family opposed it but he didn’t care.

>>16047

It's not a bad take, I can see the relation, but I also think it's way too U.S-centered.

XXX is(was) likely no more than a piece of a larger movement, the rise in Gen Z conservatism is stretching all over the world, in Latam, Asia, Africa and many other places where he was not 'famous' at all.

>>16124
So what do you suppose is the real reason zoomer men are so conservative?

Zoomer women tend to be very leftist-oriented by comparison.

Its not one thing persay but rather a series of things over the course of the last decade

>>16125
they're not even particularly conservative its just that the neoliberal center for all the under 25s has completely collasped so all the conservatives are either magacultists, cryptobros, religious traditionalist(the tradition is twitter aesthetic pages lol) or outright fash. The amount of conservative men didn't change but the rhetoric and beliefs got more aggressive and over the top since "moderate republicans" are nonexistent unless you count ruralite libertarians. The same thing is true in the opposite direction where all the people who would be clintonite neolibs are functionally keynesian socdems now.

>t.zoomer male who was literally in a HS cafetaria when X died and watched his fanbase react to it(very cringe, parasocial bonding bad)



 

It sucks not being Russian and being a fan of GrOb, like i love their music but their is no English spaces to talk about it, so it gets kinda boring. I hope this thread will allow people to talk about it, since its really underrated. (IM NOT A NAZBOL)
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Man, I don't know. I am from post-USSR and I always thought they sucked. And I do like punk-rock, but if I wanted to listen to a mentaly unstable russian man yelling in the mic about his self-found philosophy that is barely coherent to even his own bandmates I'd prefer Purgen or Оргазм Нострадамуса

>>16057
TRVTH NUKE

>>16098
I do not agree, but i respect your opinion

>>15708
true dude
i need to listen to more GrOb albums.

>>15708
Khoy is better



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