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What do punk rockers think of pop punk? I think it eschews the political aspect of punk, and cleans it up a lot and makes it much more neutral. It also focuses a lot on the youthful energy part of punk, and is a very young style of music. I can see how some people can see this as kind of an appropriation of their culture and a sterilization of what makes punk punk. But that sort of attitude is kind of gatekeeping, though we have to acknowledge that punk rockers and people who were part of the pop punk culture belonged to different groups at the time back when music formed some young people's identities. The pop punk culture was sort of completely separate, and its own beast, similar with nu metal and metal. Does it mean the music was bad? No, it wasn't.
The funny thing is that sonically I think I prefer the way pop punk sounds better. It just has a more, I don't know how to describe it, accessible sound maybe? A lot of punk rock doesn't have great production and very simplistic in guitar playing. I get that its the point, but it just doesn't sound as good to my ears that way.

This is just assessments I'm making with my limited knowledge, so feel free to correct me.

is this a pro-zionist album?

Back in the 90s and Bush years rappers loved conspiracy theories, the Nation of Islam, liberally using "faggot" and "uygha", indulged in virulent misogyny, etc. Even in the early Obama years Killer Mike was rapping:

"Step and fetch funky ass, flunky ass uyghas
Dick in the booty for your Massa' ass uyghas
I don't fear no man
Not Bush not Clinton not Osama"

During the Bush years Immortal Technique had lyrics like this:

"But you know what the fuck I think is just pathetic and gay?
When uyghas speculate what the fuck 'Pac would say
You don't know shit about a dead man's perspective
And talkin' shit'll get your neck bone disconnected
Disrespected
uyghas don't show no love
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Communist elevator music…

The next clout martyr.

Post Indie rock/pop and other "Hipster" shit from the 2000s and 2010s (mostly early 2010s).

As an avid listener of metal, something that frustrates me is the prevalence of chuds and reactionaries in metal (especially black metal). The visibility of guys like Varg and Famine of Peste Noire infamy has colored the public perception of extreme metal as being the domain of edgelord fascists. What are some metal groups that could be said to be socialist, anarchist, or leftist in some manner?

To start things off, I'd highly recommend the Panopticon album "Kentucky," which is a BM album about the state's history with labor organizing among coal miners, as well as the coal industry's destruction of the state's natural beauty. It's not a perfect album by any means but the way it mixes BM with bluegrass is cool, plus it has an incredibly redpilled message.

https://youtu.be/gSObRNcPAv8
https://youtu.be/2zwxEKmoVD4