/meta/ - Ruthless criticism of all that exists (in leftypol.org)

>>42897
No problem.
>I genuinely don't believe I am acting in bad faith here
I don't think you are. I worded it in a general manner, there are posters who behave as mentioned. I'm sorry for the confusion.
>And we literally have a loli character as our mascot.
It's debatable as whether this is the case. "Loli" refers to a very specific aesthetic. Even so, not everyone would agree on Alunya's age.
As to avoid having my reply too green, I'll talk generally about some of the concerns you raise, which are completely reasonable FYI.

>about pornographic lolisho and sexual depiction of underaged anime characters
We constantly tiptoe around what's permissible not only by law but also by the service providers that we use. This is an issue for us because those restrictions are often arbitrary, judged on a case-by-base basis, and non-negotiable (worst case scenario, Leftypol gets shut down for a while); and not only that, but they (our service providers) are not 100% clear on what they don't allow. You raise an interesting point: why is pornography of, say, Hatsune Miku, who is often depicted as a minor, not banned? The simple answer is: it hasn't gotten us into trouble, yet. The plausible justification of "this character is illustrated as an adult here both in age and in secondary sexual characteristics, regardless of their canonical age" does a lot of heavy lifting. If this sounds too arbitrary to you, don't worry, it's not just you. That's just the way these things are enforced, and this is out of my control.
Another thing that I have to point out is that it's not because something is permissible by law that it is permissible by the terms of use of a service provider. Often, they play it safe and try to save their butts first and foremost. They can't afford a margin of error. That's just how their business is.

>about discussions on the ethics or legality of lolisho
I don't think these are outlawed, unless it's a metathread that should be here instead of the other boards. But they are often very inflammatory (i.e. full of bait, falseflagging, etc), and often devolve into apologetics for pedophilia and real CSAM. I don't blame the staff for straight up bumplocking, locking, deleting these threads etc, but if Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>42898 (me)
My tone might give you the impression I think all shitpost is bad. I don't. This isn't Reddit and I wouldn't want it to be, either.

>>42811
left one is worse, they are both bad and disgusting
>all it takes to take down the brain mush porn addict argument is to remove one word

>>42898
>I worded it in a general manner, there are posters who behave as mentioned.
Quite understandable.
>loli character as our mascot.
>It's debatable as whether this is the case.
I'm aware it is debatable, I probably should've mentioned that. I've seen anons argue about it before, and while I would categorized some well known depictions of Alunya that way, I'm aware there are also many (maybe even most.) artworks of her that are really not close to loli at all.

>about pornographic lolisho and sexual depiction of underaged anime characters
What you touch on here generally puts the moderators actions in a much more reasonable light overall, from my point of view, and makes it easier to understand why it is like this way. Personally I am really not aware of all the intricacies that go into maintaining a website and appeasing hosting providers (especially for a site like this.) but I know sites can be taken down for often nebulous reasons.

>about discussions on the ethics or legality of lolisho
I am well aware that they are very inflammatory discussions to have, and historically I would stay well away from related topics for those very reasons. But recently, in the light of events like reactionary group collective shout working to criminalize any fictional depictions of rape and incest, as well as the classic book bannings/restrictions and so on, I have become more concerned with questions like "where does freedom of expression end, and abuse begin?" and "do these events set a precedent that could be used to censor radical political content, IE expression about overthrowing an existing state?" which I think are very poignant topics for leftists to discuss. I was considering making a proper discussing thread on /siberia/ probably, but I would want to take more time to put effort into an OP rather than just making a thread that reads
>ITT: loli, good or bad? discuss

>about optics
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>>42855
https://bsky.app/profile/matrix.org/post/3lxuslbzjuc2t
The matrix homeserver broke and is being restored.
The thread is more about what the site has as an alternative in case this happens again or it goes down permanently. Currently the matrix is a quicker way to reach mods in case of a raid and seems to be where they make decisions, plus it's a point of contact for some users.

>>42855
>It's gone and not coming back.
Why do people like to lie on the internet like this?
Matrix.org had a serious database problem due to a RAID failure, they have been restoring 55 TB of data for the last 14 hours and it's still not done yet, then they will have to replay the activity of the last 17 hours on the database. This takes a long time, but it should be operational later during the day or by tomorrow.
Matrix instances and accounts not hosted on matrix.org are unaffected.

>>42857
>The thread is more about what the site has as an alternative in case this happens again or it goes down permanently.
Good question. I have no idea.

For normal users, maybe setting up a temporary cytube room could do the trick.

For moderators, maybe the webdev and admins could set up a secret board for communication accessible only with a mod/admin/dev account, but I doubt it's doable quickly especially since they all have day jobs AFAIK.
I'm not sure if mods truly need matrix to be operational at all time, knowing that the report system is integrated into the website, as long as they only clean up obvious bait/spam, restrict themselves to uncontroversial actions in short, I don't think it's an issue as long as the matrix rooms are back soon.

An IRC chatranshumanist would be easy to set up

do chatranshumanists know about http://pestnet.io/whitepaper.html yet?

It's back up for now

>>42769
Probably the same mod who spoils every image of meat being cooked.
>>42778
*You're

See, I warned you guys about this. First the lolis then the pawgs, that's how it always starts…. And now porn is banned completely. We should have stood together while we still had the chance.

>>42796
fuck off pedo

>>42798
I think the mods should make an ordinance to restrict this kind of name calling, it clearly falls under rule 14.

Shota and loli are not CSAM
If they are, then gore and furry should be banned because they normalize bestiality and violence

>>42665
I thought you said morality was a spook?

>>42688
Violence is ok, pedophilia is not. Idgaf about furries, you're all the same degens too lazy to just go on a porn website.

>>42715
>Violence is ok, pedophilia is not.
Evidence for this claim?

>>42765
My evidence is that this claim goes against anyone who goes against the claim. Violence resolves issues, pedophilia creates issues along with its apologetics and adherents. Questions like yours are in effect advocacy that is no different from a plead followed up with a "why". This site will see no growth without a precise stance against the antisocial behavior of raping adolescents and its advocates who perpetuate the idea.
Not a single societal problem has ever been solved in history except by violence, violence will resolve the problem that is pedophilia - the rape of adolescents and the idea of it will die with the change of history.

seconded, this is a very annoying one.

>>42623
We haven't used Cloudflare on the tor endpoint for months now

>>42625
No, it's not enough to defend from ddos, hides our IP and it helps us reducing latencies by caching
>>42632
I doubt they glow much more than the average US conglomerate

>>42636
I'm pretty sure a company that MITMs the vast majority of the Web glows more than say Nestlé

>>42636
>hides our IP
I don't understand why it would matter if you are using a VPS but wouldn't a dynamic DNS? Or I don't understand why you would want that? You can still access the website with the domain name, no?

>it's not enough to defend from ddos
:(

>>42635
Have you thought about making an eepsite mirror? I found it very easy to set one up with i2pd. I generated a leftyp- address if you want it, I can try to generate a leftypol one if you want.

>>42639
oh yeah i2p was ages ago

typing it normally should yield the maoist standard english spelling and the maoist standard english should word filter to "the greatest country on earth". also wrt to felix and the other attention whore glow posters just shutdown the tor node atp that shit aint for privacy its just ban evasion and the most annoying posters on the entire fucking board.

>>42519
Unironically, I'd take Space or D011ars over these people at this point. This is just ridiculous.

>>42550
Is it ridiculous or is it ironic?
They could save us from these other people but not from themselves.

https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2432906.html

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