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I just had an idea that could be useful both for the .onion and the clearnet site: ask new users a few questions about theory, or obscure facts that only TRVE and HONEST comrades would know. For example, "what is the substance of value?", "in which text does Marx theorize about different phases of communism?" or "in a letter to Engels, what did Marx call Ferdinand Lassalle after the latter proposed that Marx' daughter should prostitute herself?". Multiple choice questions would probably be best for this. We could crowdsource questions from anons. Upon correctly answering such questions a cookie could be set that is valid for some amount of time, say a week.
A system like this would have three benefits:
>it filters out bots
>it filters out theorylets
>it removes the need for cuckflare
Thoughts?
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the problem with this is you'd make the mods have to read the answer for every tor post

I already posted such a list years ago, but no one was interested at the time.

>>43136
>the problem with this is you'd make the mods have to read the answer for every tor post
no you use an HTML form with radio boxes that programmatically gets checked

>>43131
so they get autobanned if they fail,?

>>43146
I hadn't even thought of that. yes a one week ban or something with a message like "go read theory instead of posting on the internet"



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Reminder on Leftypol, that the mods put Gender ideology and Gender Idpol, above Socialism, Socialist theory or discourse. Only criticizing Gender Ideology, even from a theoretical position, results in a ban on this community.
Mean while Gender cultists are allowed to be misogynistic, Lesbophobic, Homophobic, are allowed to post degenerate misogynistic fetish sex shit against women, are allowed to abuse older women and post just all sorts of horrific shit, that if you said against the hon brigade that have turned leftypol into just another branch of /tttt/ you would get a lifetime ban immediately. The Gender Idpol bridgade, especially in the Britpol thread, denegrate Marx, they denegrate Engels, they denegrate Marxist theory if you ever bring up that Marx's and Engels or Materialist positions go against the Gender Idpol positions.
Classic Leftypol was always Gender Critical, Classic Leftypol always rejected (and ruthlessly mocked) Tumblr conception of Gender and Gender ideology, the vast majority of Socialist socities rejected Gender Ideology, the current position of the Communist Party of China considers it a Social Contagion, most Marxist parties on earth are Gender Critical, most major Marxist outlets are Gender Critical, most 3rd and 5th wave Feminists are Gender Critical.
Gender ideology is reactionary horseshit that the mods just jerk off over because they are part of the Gender cult.
There is no rules against being Gender Critical.
There is no ordinance against being Gender Critical.
The reason for this is the mods do not even want the debate on gender critical positions to happen, because they know that Gender ideology is reactionary incoherent godblygook that is rejected by most Marxists and Communists on the planet.
Stop being cowards, make an ordinance placing Gender ideology above all socialism and make it uncriticizable. Until then, you're just being total complete thin skinned pussies who are banning people for just disagreeing with your tumblr idpol beliefs.



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Why was the /siberia/ hentai thread deleted? I dont think it was breaking any rules. All the new posts I saw were getting spoilered. There was no illegal content.
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cool that /siberia/ is getting more and more sanitized but mods do nothing about the one guy from /pol/ who makes obvious bait threads every day despite fitting the definition of "low-effort raiders"

>>42924
yeah I thought soyjack spam wasn't allowed but he can make a "is this you" thread every day

>>42758
the existing porn threads were deleted because a rule about porn needing to be spoilered was pushed through over concerns about age verification and a mod decided to delete all the existing threads as they couldn't be bothered to spoiler them. pretty lame IMO but oh well what's done is done

The mods need to be more selective as to what they choose to remove. Just because someone reports it doesn't mean it has to go. The mods are fucking dishonorable faggots on /pol/

>>43001
that's annoying but if it really was a one-time thing i guess it's nbd



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We don't need over a dozen USAPol threads at once. At the very least, lock the threads after they're done so that raiders won't bump the old threads.
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At HOUDINI, we have always held that spaces for the genuine left must be vigilant, principled, and, above all, safe from the corrosive influence of fascism. It is with disappointment and frustration that we must address the ongoing and escalating issue of one such space: the /leftypol/ imageboard. What was once a chaotic but useful forum for anti-capitalist discussion has rapidly devolved into a haven for the very forces we claim to oppose, aided and abetted by a complete failure of moderation.

The evidence is not hidden; it is posted brazenly and constantly. Users are no longer merely debating right-wing talking points, they are openly reposting literal Nazi propaganda. The rhetoric has shifted from edgy nonsense to full-throated support for white supremacist figures. Most tellingly, we have witnessed users unironically proclaiming white nationalist Nick Fuentes as "a savior of the left." This is not a joke. It is a testament to how deeply the rot has set in.

HOUDINI’s stance on this has always been clear: if you sit at a table with Nazis without protest, you are normalizing their presence. If you platform them, you are amplifying them. And if you, as a moderation team, allow them to flourish, your table becomes a Nazi table. The fact that the /leftypol/ administration allows this to continue is nothing short of disgusting.

This is the same space that continues to permit the promotion of figures like the Fuentes, who famously tweeted "Her Body, My Choice" in gleeful opposition to bodily autonomy. This is who this "leftist" imageboard platform empowers. The irony is palpable and sickening: nothing says “leftism” like promoting a misogynist who co-opts feminist language to celebrate its dismantling.

We understand the argument. Imageboards allow for a much deeper freedom of expression, a raw and unfiltered exchange that can be fertile ground for organic organization. But we are not naive. We've seen this playbook before, and it always ends the same way. The pattern is predictable:

1. Nazis move into a community, testing the boundaries with "edgy" humor and propaganda.
2. Moderation fails to address the issue, hiding behind excuses of "free speech" or "not wanting to be censors."
3. Normal, non-Nazi users, tired of the bigotry and hostility, begin to leave.
4. The space is left to the Nazis and those willing to tolerate them, completing the takeover.

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>>42828
Gaslighting, the post. Most of this is true ONLY in the most vaguest of ways or in very specific, reddit-pilled mindsets. Oh no, Fuentes made an edgy joke online, Oh the TRAGEDY! Oh the HORROR!

Irony, sarcasm and freely shitposting had always been part of leftypol and anyone that looks up the archive.is of 8ch.net and old bunkerchan will see that.

Nazis posting here is also not a bannable offense, or it wasn't, because in the years before Reddit banned libshit circles like Chapo (and made their cunty asses move here), this place actually knew how to take a joke, ignore bait and debunk Nazi propaganda without throwing a hissy fit about 'le bad wordz'. /edu/ still has an old debunk thread where a nazi was being debunked by lengthy debate, I wrote those posts and they actually have substance.

>nothing says “leftism” like promoting a misogynist who co-opts feminist language to celebrate its dismantling.

This right here is what I mean. Someone saying something edgy is not "misogyny". It may be crass, but this isn't reddit, it's an imageboard, crass is standard, picking and choosing what sort of crass you allow is subjective at best, hypocritical at worst. This is pussification, plain and simple. There's a difference between actual misogyny and a joke, a difference between critique and slander, and clearly you retards can't differentiate, mostly because you're either poorly read ignoramuses, or drank too much liberal-capitalist coolaid about idpol.

>Moderation fails to address the issue, hiding behind excuses of "free speech" or "not wanting to be censors."

This is the most laughable part, the moderators have always been criticized here for being way too heavy-handed and hypocritical in how they enforce rules, going back to the waning days of bunkerchan and the leftychan split.
>creating the principled leftist space they claim to be.
It was never supposed to BE a "principled" leftist space, it's leftyPOL - Leftist POLITICALLY INCORRECT. Literally /pol/ but better read and ideologically educated, nothing more or less. Anything else was irrelevant. Your personal opinions of porn, fiction and so on were banter material. Idpol used to be mocked universally, antifa and the alt-right two sides of the same capitalist coin;Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>42916
>transphobia is idpol
So is shilling support for trans by your logic. Trans used to be discussed quite civilly here years back, with objective critique of the movement in the USA and how it exploits alienated people. This began to be banned en masse and people with good faith discussion stopped posting, leaving only the shitposters to bait the thin skinned rainbow capitalists shilling pro-idpol rhetoric, since they just hop IPs to evade bans anyway. The moderation itself has killed any good faith discourse you speak of
>stating that queerness is a western capitalist invention
It is, OWS was proof of that. Every single time these movements come up in a country it's a vehicle for reactionaries and fascists inciting color revolutions. Intersectionality and identity based politics are inherently anti-socialist. If it isn't within the lens of class dialectics, it's no more than a glowie scam.

>far right wing entities like Russia

Fed lapdog take. Russia is a far cry from the USSR, but to call it far-right is so beyond disingenuous as to be outright neo-nazi propaganda, it has been debunked many times as literal /pol/shit. By your own logic you ought to be banned for this for ethno-national essentialism.

What the mods REALLY need to do is a hard refresh of the main leftypol board. Archive/Purge every single thread and let people start from scratch, same for /siberia/.

Rules wise they need to step back and stop responding to posts with emotional lash-outs, be objective. If you don't like someone's opinion, respond or ignore unless it's just outright fascism. Also cut down the rules to some base essentials.
1) No Pedophilia, Zooshit, and other illegal content.
2) No promotion of identity politics left or right.
Caveat: Critique and discussion of specific identity politics must be done from a socio-economic stand-point, not an emotional one (I would personally have a specific idpol discussion cyclical thread, and ban any idpol discussion outside of it.)
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>>43088
>Caveat: Critique and discussion of specific identity politics must be done from a socio-economic stand-point, not an emotional one (I would personally have a specific idpol discussion cyclical thread, and ban any idpol discussion outside of it.)
This site and its users don't have the intelligence to do a honest dialogue, let alone a critique of the global economic system of intentionally created crime known as the war on drugs, the effects of prohibition as inhibitors of the productive forces and their vitality rather than a defense of public health, the effects of stagnation of the development of science - chemistry and botany or the necessity for enhancement of the human condition through drug use or other means, if it downs down to it all positions which stand against transhumanism or are fence sitters on the question of the development of mankind as transhumanism are in effect reactionary. The only reason this hasn't come to fruition is simple - religiosity is presented as compatible and thereby social conservativism is served in a "modest" dressing, no one would dare to accept that religiosity is in fact identity politics, because of course they have to shill for their favorite Islamic warriors and bourgeoisie Christian liberal theology, just bashing things together and ignoring the contradictions at this point modernization sees no problem with being a queer Islamic "Marxist-Leninist-Maoist" or any such type of amalgamation from how much it has been normalized to present these as completely normal positions in the name of decrying "sectarianism". It has been pushed through historical errors and abnormalities into being normalized by figures in the ilk of Tolstoy, Gutiérrez and completely compromising positions taken up out of an appeal for popularity rather than seeking to change the social order. The premise of this site in itself, stemming from a drive for "leftist unity" and "anti-sectarianism" in premise cannot do anything else other than to allow contradictions to espouse as any position in the broad of "leftism" is invited to dialogue and even some outside of "leftism". Such an abomination cannot engage in self-reflection since it believes it to be outsider criticism from "the right", it immediately jumps to a conclusion that if a critique is once spoken by "the right" it belongs to "the right" and no farther Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>43089
There are only three reasons to use this site: to LARP, to advertise your shit or to read news. That's literally it. Expecting anything more is just wishful thinking at this point, but seeing how full of shit the internet is you're still glad to be here because where else can you write out your fantasies without being doxed or leaving a footprint and keep it semi-informational to simulate activity? It's the anonymity that's stimulating.

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>>43089
>>43090
>This site and its users don't have the intelligence to do a honest dialogue, let alone a critique
At this point you are absolutely correct, sadly it was not always so. This change is why I barely post here anymore. Honestly the above posts are just screams into the void.



 

I'm making a whole new thread on this because mods never answer any questions in the meta thread, so I hope they won't consider this spam. I'm trying to be considerate and ask a serious question here.

Why are anons getting banned for merely mentioning lolicon? >>42785 This is the most recent example but I've seen it happen before.
There is a site that hosts lolicon porn permanently linked on the top bar, but if any anon here posts or links to lolicon, or even mentions it in passing in any other context they get banned? I saw someone link a slice of life manga with a shota character in it a week ago on /siberia/, and it got removed. It wasn't even pornographic. How exactly is this a reasonably action? That is not a rhetorical question, I seriously want to know if there is a decent explanation for the mods actions here, I want to know why they do this.

Also literally nobody likes the feral ban BTW, but it seems now porn is banned altogether so whatever.
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>>43044
>Tbh that could also be from the same anon breaking another rule somewhere else and the mod just clicking the first post they saw to issue the ban.
Another mod brought up this possibility, which is a thing I wasn't aware of, so that's definitely possible. I just thought that post was a good example of what I had seen while making this thread.

>Also, regarding "just discussing it", maybe you could be referring to rapefiend anon?

I wasn't thinking of any particular anon, I had just seen a few different anons making references to it in memes or whatnot and get their threads removed, and then the one I quoted in OP made me think I should make a thread asking about it. But it could have just been a coincidence.

>The lack of ban ids makes this significantly harder to discuss or evaluate

I do have a couple of them because I still have screenshots, actually. I didn't think to save them but I'll keep that in mind if something happens again.

Ban for "irony poisoning"
91692

Ban for "ban evasion" (From the screenshot I posted in the meta thread >>43004 )
91378
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>>43039
>since 2019
newfag
>is it possible I am being profiled as a "troublemaker"
It's possible but unlikely. They don't have the "resources". Iron Felix is still running around etc. etc.
My name has been dropped once or twice or three times in the last month(s) and I don't even think that was mods. They are generally so unaware.

>spamming reports

is fuckin bs. They can remove all reports of one IP.
It's also nowhere in the rules. But something like that has not been the standard in a long time. Some minimum amount of sanity and/or consistency would be nice, I suppose.

>>43045
But don't accept that reasoning so easily.
"oh we don't have time", then sort it the fuck out. Get someone who has time / gives a shit. You been saying that for years. At some point it gets beyond angering and just becomes really silly. Oh we have long passed that point, in my book.
>Do the mods ever even bother to actively vet the others actions?
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>>43048
Why would you spam reports in the first place. If you go through the effort of being annoying, you'll get the reaction you're looking for.

>>43075
A silly little response.
If you want spam I can show you real spam.

>>43044
>First time I hear of this
Check the edit history of the ordinance thread OP, pretty sure it was stated there. Otherwise the other thread I knew it was mentioned in bumpslid off, which frustrates me.
>bans thing for non-leftist reasons
>called out on it
>thing doesn't have to do with leftism
The times I've seen it zapped, and the ban I myself got for it, was on /siberia/, the off-topic board. Obviously so.

The only further action requested is finding out if there's anything upstream forbidding feral–which would be equally weird as it being banned here and thus improbable–and removing the rule if not, or linking / citing the rule / law / terms of service of whatever upstream entity forbids it.
Again, this is the only time I've ever seen a site in specificity ban non-bestial, sophont feral art that wasn't a flat ban of porn altogether.



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I can't be the only person experiencing weird hiccups this website has and it's starting to drive me crazy.

>Pressing f5 on a thread jumps the page up a couple of posts, having to manually scroll down again


>Auto updating on a thread makes it so you have to manually scroll down + no visual indicator to when a new post happens


>No option that automatically zooms into an image while hovering over it (4chan X feature, personal opppinion)


Before I'm told. Yes, I am aware that this website is self-hosted using an instance of Tinyboard, but there has to be at least SOMEONE who develops the sites frontend.
This thread is also open for other criticism of the frontend.
FIX YOUR WEBSITE.



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What kind of community is this? I got banned for "not touching enough grass". I'm not sure if my post was offensive to someone who thought it was sarcastic or what the problem was, but just a few minutes after someone posting to leave the board I was banned.
I seriously don't know what to make of it.

Is this the kind of place that has a really tight group and a certain mindset and the mods just nuke anyone they take a disliking towards?
What kind of leftist practice is that? Seems dishonorable. Seems unamerican. Judge for yourself though. What did I do wrong and how could it be interpreted in a way that is fucking bannable? It's just the mods' whim? That's some fascist shit right there.
>I don't like this thread or the way the posts are written and it's MY playground and YOU can't stay!!

What the actual fuck? Justify yourself, pig!
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It was low effort I guess. Unless you posted it in siberia in which case mods have no excuse

>>43062
Well they were asking questions with a few quips woven in, I think questions about praxis is exempt from that.

>>43050
>What kind of community is this?
the evil lefty capitalism website

>>43059
>My dad had dementia and I subscribed so he could watch all the NYPD Blue episodes.
<Akshually i got Disney Plus for elder abuse!
Amazing.

Your bit isnt funny



 

>because 420chan.org redirects here.
>it serves as an alternate to IRC…

If you don't like discord, post in this thread, fellow 420channers.

We are refugees here… please respect us, you don't have to like us.

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420chan refugee thread located in /siberia/
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/624142.html#624490

Is the discord server still up? If so re-send the link.

>>42455
Bumping to find out

>>42455
>>42977
SURE THING!



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every thread gets derailed by china dickriders or china bashers and every thread seems to devolve into an argument about whether or not china is le revolutionary or le reactionary and it's the same fucking thing every goddamn time nobody actually learns anything and nobody learns anything and nothing is gained i know the mods like to glaze china like the rest of em but this shit is just getting annoying

Nah fuck off, zap the derail but bringing up how a country does something is on it's own neutral and able to be relevant to a given discussion.
Treat it like the magacom thing, just don't let people start pingponging wheather or not it's "real socialism"

the PRC is a good idealist filter since belief in communist utopia and/or le ebil totalitarian 1984 dystopia are both highly idealistic views of history and politics that just boils shit down to manichean struggles of great men and great ideals.

>'s the same fucking thing every goddamn time nobody actually learns anything and nobody learns anything and nothing is gained
True of every debate on this site, also banning discussion of the most powerful or second most powerful country in the world in a political community seems unproductive



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