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 No.3415[Reply]

What happened with the Bunkerchan split? I tried asking there but clearly that site is totally dead/co-opted.
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 No.3419

The "official" narrative given by the staff of this site is
>old site had tons of technical issues
>old BO kept promising staff he'd give them access but never did
>staff opted to quietly migrate to a new site
>old BO found out, got pissed and kicked all the "coupers" out, leading to a split
>during the early days of the split someone on the old site's staff nuked all the threads there forcing a restore to a weeks-old backup
>this someone was then invited into this site's staff, making some users unwilling to migrate even though the new site had the most recent versions of the posts, further complicating things
>old site staff is now full of nazbols and probably full-on /pol/tards

 No.3420

>>3419
>this someone was then invited into this site's staff
Small correction, he was here all along. Dollars was okay, for some reason, with some mods staying behind.

 No.3421

>>3419
it is worth carving into the official history that d011ars said he'd do anything to keep the community together, but then actively spurned any effort to reconcile the two boards following space_'s departure while censoring any discussion of the matter on Bunkerchan. he should be held up as an example of sheer personal opportunism of the very worst sort.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.3515

>>3415

Bunkerchan was well known for its persistent technical problems for years which lead the site to frequent crashes and outages especially during periods of high volume of posts. These problems couldn't be fixed that quickly, sometimes for DAYS, because the site owner refused to allow the staff to have server access, and also didn't fix the problems quickly on his own either. Also he rubbed people the wrong way by generally being a petty smug asshole. The moderators started to make their own website as a plan of last resort. Once he found out about this he got mad and decided to kick out all the mods that participated in this endeavor. The moderators refused to allow this so the site owner pulled a 'Reagan breaking the traffic controllers union' move and fired them all. They ended up finishing this site, staying here and eventually everyone migrated over.

Also at some point a rogue mod who had mod status on both sites ended up deleting a bunch of posts over there. There was only one mod who remained loyal to the old site owner and after the split, the site owner got depressed because everyone left so he gave ownership of the site to that last mod guy who is the new owner of bunkerchan.net

Now most people have migrated here and the old site is filled with right wing crossposters, spammers, etc.

Maybe its just my biased opinion but the main reason for the fall of bunkerchan was Space_'s egotism and arrogance, not by simply refusing his staff's demands, but also being very cryptic and condescending about the whole thing too, actively mocking and antagonizing them by telling them "its my way or the highway, if you don't like it, leave". Then once they did and he discovered that running the site is actually work, he fucked off and handed it over to someone else.

 No.3553

>>3421
d0llar’s is a polyp, I’m quite certain of it by now, he has destroyed Bunkerchan and I hope he dies for it



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 No.3392[Reply]

spoiler OP test case for catalog
https://github.com/towards-a-new-leftypol/leftypol_lainchan/blob/b962f6a1283b33c6dc54c78cf4545adf92e21ce9/templates/themes/catalog/theme.php#L424

generic file OP test case for catalog, will be fixed
Kickstarter workers unionize
>>>/tech/160

deleted OP test case for catalog, works
Posting doesn't work for me
>>979

 No.3393

OK, so only the generic file fails.

 No.3394

After the generic file OP test case for catalog is fixed this thread can be deleted. Until then please leave it up, even though the spoiler OP test case for catalog works, because it acts as a regression test.

 No.3548

test

 No.4950

this is now test threadanarchismAnarchism



 No.3374[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Posting this in /meta/ as to not shit up the /leftypol/ catalog

There's been a huge drop in post quality after the split, and while I tried writing a few effortposts they mostly seemed to go nowhere. At least in the earlier days of /leftypol/ there was at a very least prolific production of funny memes despite sectarian shitflinging, but now, both new memes and effortposts are dwindling.

This "infrared" bullshit is the last straw, I create a thread about podcast suggestions and it was INSTANTLY shitted up by hazbros shilling their youtuber. Despite my efforts to debate in good faith they mostly just responded with the same sort of posturing bullshit that Vaush fans would do. I tried hiding the infrared post and just ignoring it but unfortunately those guys don't seem content to stay in their containment thread and spill out into literally everything. I have also requested the jannies to give the ability to at least hide single replies in threads (in tech feedback thread) but that doesn't seem to be on the menu either anytime soon.

I think I'm (unironically) going to reddit. The whole point of choosing leftypol over reddit was to escape the bullshit tone policing, but unfortunately we have gotten to the schizo saturation point where the weirdos outnumber the actual good people. Frankly, I'd rather deal with IDPOL and tone policing bullshit than whatever the fuck this has become. It would be one thing for a clique of autists to stan whatever eceleb there is (happens from time to time) but now you have literal jannies posting with their mod tags in threads supporting them and retweeting their shit from official accounts.

At least something like /r/communism has effortposts, blogs, and links to actually good resources from a ML perspective (and there are other sites/subreddits for other tendencies). I'd rather engage with thoughtful and edifying content thats slightly too identity centric than deal with this nonsense.

I don't want to debate or frankly even listen to debates. I'm tired. And old. My time is limited outside work and I don't have time to be watching some unhinged posturing sociopath stream for 6 hours, I would rather sleep or at least listen to/watch something funny, if not educational for 30 minutes to an hour.

leftypol was the best thing that ever happened to the internet left and I'll miss the mid 2010s "golden era" of leftypol with its memes and actually funny shitposts, but at least leftisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.7187

Nothing of value was lost.

 No.7188

>>7186
>he posted it again
they will never recover

 No.7240

i dont even know what the fuck's going on anymore

 No.7260

looks like OP was vindicated seeing as haz/inf have been totally banned from the platform now

 No.7267

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>>7260
Wait what platform? Is their discord down?

>>7240
Not worth thinking about if you can avoid it.



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 No.3332[Reply]

If this guy posts this one more time, jannies should ban TOR permanently.

Let people just use normal TOR exit nodes if they wanna post here, instead of allowing direct access. Otherwise we will keep reading analspam for the next 3 years
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 No.3337

How would allowing exit nodes change this?

 No.3338

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>>3332
WAAAAAAAH SOMEDOBY IS SHITPOSTING IN MUH SANCTIFIED IMAGEBAORD
GET RID OF THE MOST SECURE FORM OF POSTING JANNIES PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAASEEEEEEE MY ASS IS BLEEDING

 No.3345

>>>/b/817
>>>/b/9295
>>>/b/9371
>>>/b/10321
They already have like four threads that were moved to /b/.

 No.3348

>>3345
Lmao why the fuck do jannies not just remove the duplicates? Is /b/ just would-be deleted threads but with extra steps?

 No.3353

>>3348
>Is /b/ just would-be deleted threads but with extra steps?
Yes.

I think that's actually the main reason why /b/ was made in the first place since /GET/ was already a community and it'd be kinda rude to dump our toxic waste there.



 No.3579[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, now that we've settled in here a bit more, it's time to address the burning questions of constitutional reform! Until now we have been playing it fast and loose, lets say, with the old Bunkerchan rules, but they are clearly no longer apropos.

The key issue we would like to discuss is the internal administrative structure. As of now, we have been attempting to use mostly horizontal democratic organisation (among mods), however this has had some notable lapses and issues, and some would like to use a more 'traditional' hierarchical structure with admins at the top, moderators in the middle, and janitors on the bottom, or just admins and moderators. The advantage of having admins with executive power is primarily to cut through deadlock, which has been a real problem since our migration. That said, perhaps there are other ways to deal with that.

Another proposal is the question of user democracy and more involvement of users without volunteer status in decisionmaking. This is a good idea in theory but in practice it is difficult to agree on how to move forward with it. Should users have direct voting power? If so, how will this be implemented and to what extent? Can the moderators override the users and if so in what circumstances? Should users be vetted (ie through Matrix) in order to ensure that the vote is not totally skewed by sockpuppets? If so doesn't that privilege people who use off-site communication unfairly? As you can see, it is a difficult subject, but interesting nonetheless.

One more issue is over who is and isn't allowed to post on leftypol, ideologically speaking. Mostly everyone can agree that this board should be for 'the left' but what does that mean exactly? Who is included and who is not in that definition? While I'm sure everyone will agree that 'orthodox leftism' should be allowed, there is ambiguity over what that means at the boundaries. Are anprims allowed? Post-colonialists? Anarcho-nihilists? Juche proponents, or Pol-potists? How about social democrats? And so on. To what extent are non-leftists allowed? Do they have the same 'rights' as leftist posters or are they treated harsher?

I have attached the most up to date version of the old constitution, which some of us think should be simply adapted to the new circumstances. On the other hand, some vols have proposed a new constitution altogether which I will attach below. There is also the option of throwing all of these out and woPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.4054

>>4037
I’m using an iPhone Xr and the Safari browser app.

 No.4061

>>4038
To add to this, I’ve figured out choosing from Files (“Browse…” option) works problem free. Only photo library doesn’t.

 No.4076

>>4038
>>4054
>>4061
Thanks, I will get the tech team to follow up on this and try fix it.

Anyway, on topic, we are now voting on whether or not to approve the version of the constitution/manifesto that I proposed here.
>>3875

I understand that it is not as radical a document as some people were hoping for but I believe that it is a good middle ground between user input/mod accountability and stability. Also it could still be rejected by the other moderators of course.

 No.4077

>>4076
Just reviewed it looks good tell us how the vote goes

 No.4160

>>3579
The new constitution has now PASSED! While there may be more changes in the future, and we will continue to experiment with user democracy, I am glad that we have a solid base to build on in the future and a ruleset firmly established for leftypol.org.

Thanks to everyone for your involvement!



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 No.3308[Reply]

pls add autorefresh
like on bunkerchan, 4chan, 8ch, etc.
good feature

 No.3313

but it's there

 No.3315

>>3313
i dont see it on firefox is it only visible on other browsers?

 No.3316

>>3315
I am on firefox and I see it.

 No.3317

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>>3316
oh shit, the placement was way different so i didnt even see it



 No.2598[Reply]

Instead of having the same fucking boards as bunkerchan, divide the site according to the different variants of left-wing political economy and group the ones that are similar in the same board. For example, all Anarchos on one board, M-Ls, Hoxhaists and Leninists on another one, Leftcoms and Ultras, Liberals and Sucdems, etc. Hell you can create one for Nazis and Lolberts where they can get reeducated after getting banned on the rest of the site, an actual gulag of sorts.

I guarantee you you will surpass the bunker in PPH and users because it is something neat and original. You can even create weekly activities like debates or vydia tournaments between boards while discussing theory. There is a fandom of political balls that can both be used as a guide to make the new boards and new flags, which will be a representation of each political ball. Similar to Krautchan. I can help you making these balls, I used to make pixel art.

Unless you stop being thet copy from bunkerchan no one will come here.
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 No.3361

>>2598
Right now I think the sites main problem is that its spread too thin. PPH only matters if its below a certain threshold and imo eery board is below that threshold

The point of imageboards (or any social media) is to communicate with other people. If an average poster cant expect a significant amount of replies within, say… 24hrs, then why bother posting at all?

I would say the best thing that could be done rn is to concentrate activity into a few useable boards and then grow/scale back up as needed. Right now, only /leftypol/ has any meaningful amount of activity and its barely enough as is (see >>3325). We should focus on keeping it alive before fucking around with /hobby/ and /tech/ boards. Think of it as crisis management, after all if there are no posters, what is the point of the entire site?

In short, my proposals.

1) TEMPORARILY, get rid of all boards other than /leftypol/ and /meta/. Theres no need to delete them, just hide them like /dead/ and bring it back when the need arises.

2) TEMPORARILY, reduce the number of simultaneously active threads (permanently imo). From the catalog I count over 16x21 (336) active threads? thats seems ridiculous. It's cool that conversations can be revisited and picked up much later but it has the same effect of splitting activity too thinly. Again, better to have 3 threads with 30 replies than 30 threads w/ 3 replies. From glancing at 4chinz I would recommend 10x12 (120) threads, they have more but are also over a 1000 times larger. If it's enough for them, it's plenty here.

3) ADVERTISE, the site once it starts to pick up. It may feel gross and shameless, but it's only necessary to reach a critical mass of posters then you'll NEVER have to do it again. How is anyone supposed to know this place exists? It doesn't have to be shameless e-begging either; lot's of people found bunkerchan through screenshots tagged with the site name. The catch is it ONLY works if the site is worth caring about in the first place. Manufacturing fake screenshots is silly and all the advertising in the world means little if no-one cares enough to hang around. Building a good community comes first, telling others about it second.

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 No.3363

>>3361
I would question the benefits of getting rid of boards now that we have an overboard. The way they work now has a nice balance for preserving topics that don't get bumped often enough to not basically die on /leftypol/, while not totally cutting them off from an audience since they will intermittently be seen by overboard users.

3) would seem like it should be the main priority: When people look for /leftypol/ they need to be directed here, not to Bunkerchan. ideally we'd send /pol/ spammers there, obviously, but we're also better equipped to handle them if they arrive. That's the one big disadvantage we presently have. That, and perhaps a greater reluctance to reach beyond imageboards to invite a wider audience to become part of the userbase in the way that 8/leftypol/ was occasionally willing to.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism

 No.3371

>>2598
>Hey guise lets divide ourselves and then sit at useless impotent circlejerks being stagnating sectarians that we all surely are. This will definetily help us to advance our theory!
Shove all that Peace™ and Left Unity™ crap up yer aess and read Lenin.bolshevikBolshevik

 No.3413

>>2598
Feedback received but this goes against the 'spirit' of /leftypol/ and would furthermore just suppress activity, so, we're not going to do it and I'm gonna anchor the topic.

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 No.2586[Reply]

Ok, there's a few wordfilter I really miss :

nigger->uighur
IQ->autism level
tranny->transhumanist

also if you got new propositions :
navalny->new yeltsin
do11ars->Blaise "do11ars" Compaoré
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 No.3567

>>3565
this

 No.3568

>>2586
Peterson > Benzo Binger

 No.3569

Eugenism > … wait, I need to take my meds…

 No.3570

no wordfilters

 No.3892

>>3568
gave me a giggle mate
so whats the verdict ?
why no vote on wordfilters ?
I fucking knew not having regular reports of meta discussions and votes on leftypol would lead to complete apathy of the user base toward site features.



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 No.1132[Reply]

why are /IG/ threads on leftypol and not on /b/ where they belong?

 No.1133


 No.2581

because they beloing on leftypol



 No.1126[Reply]

Every thread appears as if they had only 5 hidden replies on the overboard.

 No.1127

>>1126
This is a known issue, but you didn't bother to check the ttg thread did you? >>>/leftypol/43525ak-47AK-47

 No.1128

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>>1127
Of course not, I'm not going to look for some stupid ass off-topic thread on the politics thread when there's a whole board dedicated to
> Discussions, querries, feedback and complaints about the site and its administration.read_a_fucking_bookRead a Fucking Book

 No.1130

>>1128
This issue was fixed in the latest site update.



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