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So, a few days ago I posted in >>>/siberia/287571.
Reacting upon the OP lumping together feminists with "loudmouth conservative boomers" and "alt right manchildren", I wrote a friendly remainder that you can't really be a socialist without being a feminist as well. I later noticed that my post was silently removed. The OP remains.
That this can be an inflammatory issue on this site does not elude me, but here's the rub: on any other socialist space that I know of, my statement would have been uncontroversial to the point of being meaningless. Feminism is literally the stance that genders should be equal, and that some amount of struggle towards that goal is warranted. Now, far be it from me to demand that leftypol conform to the standards of other socialist forums! However, I think that clear and articulated rules and policies are always serviceable – if nothing else than to elucidate what audience is welcome, or not – so with that in mind I kindly ask our mods to clarify the following: is leftypol an anti-feminist site, or is it not?
Thank you for your time.


Feminism isn't synonymous with women's lib. Gender equality was always a part of socialism, but feminism is mostly a liberal movement. Different people have different attitudes toward the relationship between feminism per se and socialism, but you'd have a hard time finding a remotely serious socialist who isn't for gender equality, whatever term they use for it. Asserting that you can't be socialist without being feminist is going to ruffle feathers for the reason that what the word even means is pretty contentious.
>Feminism is literally the stance that genders should be equal
Except it's a lot more complicated than that. Feminism is a (series of) actually existing movements and bodies of theory with IRL baggage and a lot of conflicts. There is a concerted effort by different strains of feminism to assert that the one term or definition of gender equality is feminism and that "real" feminism is their interpretation of feminism, the intent being to assert a very particular theory as hegemonic (or to be portrayed as such).


If it was for gender equality it wouldn't be called 'feminism'


not anti-feminist, in fact we *are* feminist, but we're also very aware of how idpol is weaponized to create divisions in the left as well as to alienate the proles. If USA had a gommunist revolution tomorrow you bet you're ass that women would be a lot better off but that doesnt mean we agree with lib framing of things
very pre trump anti-sjw vibes coming off this. uhm ackshually im not a feminist, Im an egalitarian wojack.png


NTA but vibes aren't an argument.


>anti-sjw vibes
that is honestly hilarious
like one of the most hilarious statements on this board, easy.
I have nothing to say about this queerness except purely instinctually I had the same reaction as the poster you are replying to.
Semantically, categorically, it makes sense.

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Hello everyone. This is the thread to make proposals. Feel free to have your say whether user or mod. We have these proposals did not pass last week, but may be worthy of further discussion:

Proposal: Moderator votes remain the counted votes in admin decisions, but users should let vote using strawpolls (or perhaps polling systems built into the site?) per topic to display general user attitude to a proposal. If the majority User opinion directly opposes moderator majority vote then the proposals should be discussed and votes called on again after a break of 1-2 weeks to let people rethink positions on a topic.

Proposal: Make this the ‘official’ Leftypol channel >>>/leftypol/534666

Proposal: I think that we should also keep the current userbase engaged, making things like weekly game tournaments, actual organized debates, movie nights followed by discussion and so on. I've been thinking that a weekly leftypol podcast could be a good idea, just a couple of anons talking about what happened in the board and the world during the past week and inviting people to talk if they so desire, we could have debates there, and interviews and other things, and share it on spotify for others to see.

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Proposal 1


there's a mod feedback thread on /leftypol/
seriously it's right there


I agree with both of these ideas more or less, I always thought moving mod feedback off leftypol was a mistake, however, there needs to be more clarity on what exactly mods are not allowed to say without mod tags on. For example: are mods not allowed to say like 'I think x on leftypol is pretty good' in a general non official thread? That might be going too far.


I don't really understand the first proposal as we already have a moderation feedback thread stickied on /leftypol/ >>>/leftypol/742065 unless you mean removing any feedback thread on /meta/ and redirect everything to the /leftypol/ one. However that would be quite a mistake because where, then, would someone banned on /leftypol/ could appeal and complain about the moderation? It would encourage people to break the rules and ban evade which is idiotic.

For the 2nd proposal like caballo said >>21969 what exactly would be considered 'banned speech" needs to be clarified.


>banned speech
I'd simply say such a rule is unenforceable.
Fundamentally here's my problem: I don't know how someone with political education could come up with that. Might as well say mods need to say three Hail Marys after any action.

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Is the overboard worth for le higher PPH when most of those posts come from retards who aren't actually interested in whatever topic at hand?
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You will eat the peppers.


good god, can you stop making shit up?


Only if you give me a good word for people who can't handle less that one post per hour, dictionary-reactionary.


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I use the overboard because I engage in all boards. I don't understand what you're trying to say though. Could you rephrase?

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>he responded to the bait
>spam 30 posts of off topic sakism
>the anon is getting frustrated
>lower the PPH

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Join the volunteer team and help out the moderation of the site!

What you do:
- Keep the site clean from spam
- Ban rightoids
- Help decide things
- Communicate with the usertariat
- Keep the reports page empty
- Dev work if you're a dev

- Be leftist/communist/anarchist
- Not be a lib, right winger, nazbol, etc
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paraplegic, non-tor this time


If you've applied, please make yourself known in the vetting/waiting room, in the main chat, in the congress room, or DM a mod.


I could but should I


Don't, I hear they make you sign a contract with your blood


'tis true, this be the devil's work


/leftypol/ was spawned by a /pol/ user


>not posting the scene


how you know it was written by tarantino

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Feels like the (dis)proportion of honest posts to baits gets higher and higher every day.
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leftypol really did go down the shitter hasn't it


Yes, the place is fucking awful.


You faggots have been making these posts for as long as /leftypol/ has been around.



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why did they have to draw her feet

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somebody the other day was posting about how very often the first post in a thread is extremely inflammatory.

I want to say it is happening also. Look at the Uzbek thread, or the dutch thread for examples
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What the happy heck is a top thread, you bottom bitch?


>But tbh i think it just needs to be recognized by the mods and acted on
I'm noticing a legitimate lack of mods deleting shit tbh my most satisfying moments lately are seeing reactionary OP threads finally deleted by mods

I feel like mods should be stricter with OPs than posts within a thread, because the OP sets the mood of the rest of the thread


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Dumb short answers are quicker to type than anything thoughtful or profound. It's a statistically likely outcome in any site like /leftypol/ that combines a raw shitposty community with those who expect more quality than a /pol/ board.


prolly like, a thread thats high up in the catalog consistently



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They are always 4chan tourists and severe newfags who only contribute extremely low quality posts.
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jannies are salt that kills crops


they are both revisionist idealists so makes sense


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New addition


Well… sometimes, if you know anon is a newfag, then give them meaningful discussion, otherwise LP would just be regarded as a hostile board to newcomers wanting to join the community as a whole, and thus cannot grow
veterans must grow new seeds

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can you make posting youtube essays and youtubers in general a bannable offense please, i dont understand why this crap doesnt fall under the spam or e-celeb rule


Well they should be posted in ITG, if they are I don't really see the problem.

That said an actual informative YT video can be used to start a topic, that's not so bad.


It's not so bad, it's the worst.
>Hey everyone, watch this 55 minute video and then let's discuss it!
Transcripts of youtube videos should be mandatory in those cases. Reading is way faster than watching a video.


Surely it's better than someone who just starts a topic with a sentence, if you don't want to watch the video you can just not use the topic.


>Surely it's better than someone who just starts a topic with a sentence
it isnt


a 55-min video that could be a lot shorter but monetization is king

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