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Thesis: Anonymity plus free speech is revolutionary because it allows dialectics without ego. It allows people to advance mistaken positions, get corrected by the masses, change their mind, and adopt a new position without a transitional period of shame or remorse.

Antithesis: Anonymity plus free speech is reactionary. It allows mobs of backwards people to swamp young and impressionable minds by advancing simple, easily repeated, bigoted and chauvinist narratives.

Synthesis: Anonymity with a strong well-read ideologically committed modocracy allows dialectics without ego… as long as you ban namefags and get rid of flags.

>>41044
So when are you going to start reading?

>>41044
More like
Synthesis: We don't have either of those because jannies are alive, stfu

>>41044
Flags were the greatest cultural innovation of /leftypol/, although they've now withered and died. They allowed you to flag your ideological tendency (or in the case of someone like British SocDem, to check people are reading the words and not the flag by flagging yourself misleadingly) so people know where you're coming from. An anti-Stalin post is interpreted very differently depending on whether it comes from a SocDem flag, a 4, an Anarchy symbol, or a Stalin mustache, and much more efficiently (in most cases) states the theoretical background of your argument. (Of course, you may state a different set of premises in-text, and someone may ignore them and look only at the flag - but then you know they're lazy and not worth your time.)
When /leftypol/ was at its most culturally vital, people mostly-accurately flagging their tendencies caused people to competitively argue their case. You got a good "team" identity for both your ideology and for the board as a whole, which could be donned or abandoned at will while still basically retaining anonymity. For a board of so-called materialists, you'd think people would understand more clearly that this is the kind of environment that incubates a wildly successful meme like "Made by X gang".

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>Thesis
[the synthesis of OP's post]
>Anti-thesis
When I do get into debates I try to make little OC's and play as them. This means I don't care if I lose since it's a character I made up losing and not me personally.
I don't know if that counts as a para-ego or what but it's made me a better listener, and better able to figure out why someone of certain material conditions may think a certain way.
>Synthesis:
debate threads should have mandatory roleplay avataring so people don't attach their real egos to the matter at hand.



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This site needs an /x/ board. Honestly, that's kind of what I used most often in both 4chan and in Soyjak.party. I think that a lot of paranormal things can be seen in a leftist lens, and it'd be interesting to see what everyone's perspective is. Plus, i just think it'd be cool. What do you guys think?
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>>41165
Since you are an anarchist and apparent Gnostic, I highly recommend you look into Liber Anarkhos and Chronicles of Anarchy.

Don't care. Fuck off to /siberia/.
Why is it always the most cringe retards who come here claiming to be anarchists?

>>41208 (me)
I'd also bet everything in my pockets OP isn't an anarchist or even leftist in any respect, I guarantee his supposed 'politics' are not even marginaly rooted in action and in his community and are nothing but an aesthetic choice in how they choose to view and present themselves.

>>41165
metaphysiical garbage.
Go back to 4chan.

>>41208
Because anarchism IS cringe retardation



 

Lack of moderation is driving me crazy, look at all this shit.
WTF is going on with our moderation ATM? Just a couple of examples of the utter shit no self-respecting janny would have left up a few years ago:

Most of this is just shit bait by bad-actors sliding or straight up has nothing to do with the left posted by clearly special needs tourists.
I'm making this here because i already beg them to moderate the site there regularly and they will just simply refuse to read /meta/. All i am asking for is the mods to do the job they are here to do and keep the site in a half-decent state, If they are unwilling to do this why are they mods here in the first place? Jannitorial team should not be some power nonsense for your private chats, if you don't want to do the job then leave.
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>>41001
And you want more of them? Are you retarded?
Zero jannies
Total moderator death

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Oh yes morons who have never read Marx in their lives and at best consume breadtube garbage 24/7 need to moderate the discourse here!

They should only stick to deleting the obvious offenders (racism, sexism, queerphobia…).

>>41023
Oh add religion bullshit to the list too, and I mean ALL religions.

>>41023
Not even
Their only "job" is to uphold section230 so yeah you delete cp and bomb threats but who actually does that? Nobody
Running a website is the easiest fucking job in the world. Literally don't gotta do anything, these fuckers just wanna harass us

>>41024
>>41023
Shut the fuck up you retarded faggot. Nobody cares what you think the rules should be. What we are asking for is for the janny cunts to ENFORCE THE RULES THEY THEMSELFS WROTE FOR US.



 

For non-prudential, fully-hinged and dialectically reasonable purposes, I propose we have a sfw siberia and a nsfw siberia, for better facilitation of sillyposting of the sweet and spicy veriety.
- a general hangout for users visiting the site while at work/school that isn't an overboard.
- a place where threads for nsfw topics that aren't popular enough to keep up with the bumprate of /siberia/ but still worth exptensive discussion could last longer.
- we could give the nsfw board a funny name



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But can’t do a damned fucking thing about the fascists flooding the fucking site?

Cowardly cunts never hesitate to delete a thread that criticizes your cowardly and lazy conduct, but will happily let overt fascists that don’t even bother to engage in the vile worthless tankie LARP free reign over this site?

Jannies and mods really are pathetic roaches, if the only people you prosecute are actual long time socialists why the FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE EXIST!?
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>>40898
>admitting you hated original leftypol

fuck off wrecker

>>40898
>>I want half the board to be fascist again
Who are you quoting?

I dislike jannies as much as the next guy but you people whine about "fascists" way too much. I mean seriously

Someone could be questioning the effectiveness of communism and you claim they're fascist.

How are you any different from 4chan.

>>40891
Why do people always say "Go back to Reddit" despite being even more hysterical and echo chambered than even Reddit.

Reddit at least allows subs of differing political orientation.

>>40892
When you have a majority of posts dedicated to "tfw no gf" and spammed with buzzwords like "sexual economy" or whatever, what do you expect?

>>40893
If that's actually a jannie then I'm glad at least some of them are alright.

OP, combat your inner liberalism and stop being a softie, folding like a piece of trot newspaper the second a /pol/yp appears.
You can also hide the thread, or even close your browser and do something productive instead for a change.



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Why is /pol/ypery allowed as long as Russian nationalists do it?
https://archive.is/wSE7M
Atleast half of the rules were broken by Russian nationalists in this thread alone, and go back through this general and it is always like this.
Do we give Russian nationalists leeway for a certain reason, because those posts are indistinguishable from something you would see on 4chan, or do mods approve of thread quality like this?
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>>40447
idk man pro-russia types aren't the ones spamming 'zigger reeeeee' 24/7 on here

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>>40447
They don't even hide being reactionary anymore. The mods aren't doing shit.


>>40447
Russoid dicksucking is a cancerous rot in leftist spaces



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So, I wrote this as a response to >>>/leftypol/2230222, but I thought, I might as well post is as a general criticism to the whole chan… And so, I guess I'll post it here.

I'm a leftist. I came as a refugee from 4chan. I've been browsing this board, looking for replacement of my favorite boards, and noticed that there are no boards for math, science (hard or social sciences), engineering, history or economics/finance. Let me give you an example of why I think it would be a good idea to have those. It's a rather extreme example, but bear with me.

See the pic? Do you know why the legacy of Chavez failed? It's because they wasted a ton of money on useless crap. What you will hear from many of those venezuelan emigrants (esp. from the middle class ones) is that the Chavez government would give them cash for the most stupid shit, like tourism. They would be given hundreds or even thousands of dollars to travel to other countries. That's basically throwing money away and fucking stupid for a 3rd world country that depends on sale of raw materials. I'd guess those were part of the "social programs" the defenders talk about so much…
His government also gave a ton of "help" in the form of money and resources to other government and people from other countries. Do you think those countries helped them back when things went downhill for Venezuela?
If you don't know some basic math, history, have a sense of basic personal finances and at least some knowledge of technical matters, then how are you supposed to put things in perspective? Let's say you are the president (aka manager) of a country. You have to manage a TON of resources and want to change how things work (a la Chavez or Trump). You start moving money from some areas of your govt. to other areas, and then people complain that you cut a ton of jobs, killed programs that you thought were useless but are actually fundamental to have a basic modern society (like, say, weather forecasting) or whatever. And, since you already sent that money elsewhere, you have no money left, so you have to ask someone to lend money to your government, which means you will have to pay MORE money in the future. See where I am going? This shit repeats even at a domestic level.

Being stupid with money, ignorant of how our current society works, not knowing how hard and context-sensitive technical matters are, and not being able to have some sense of the history of thingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>40908
marvelous

>>40904
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant to say: you actually have to have a clue on how to manage money, otherwise you end up becoming poorer. It can happen to you. It can happen to your community. It can happen to your country, or even to the world as a whole.
Knowledge of math, economics, history helps avoid bad situations. I'm no expert in any of those, yet I do have some sense of how things need to be done to avoid poverty, at least in my personal finances. And that shit applies to everything. Most solutions to problems in technical matters have to do with management of resources rather than abilit or feasibility.

>>40908
>>40906
Thanks, could be useful.
But I didn't mean /biz/ only in the sense of "world economics", or US economy, or the stock market… I meant in the most general sense.

>>40913
>yet I do have some sense of how things need to be done to avoid poverty, at least in my personal finances.
This will lead you astray. As an example basic Keynesian economics says if you're in a recession you ought to spend more money, even on useless things, and even if it means going into debt, to increase aggregate demand. This is actually the justification for having a cyclically balanced budget, so that when the business cycle is down you can spend loads of money on stimulus, (for example giving everyone a few thousand dollars below a certain means tested threshold) without being badly sunk into debt. If it sounds a little like saving for a rainy day, it sort of is, but this is somehow a completely fringe policy, and there's the important proviso given above, that you're saving to spend extra money when you're running low. And this is just one example.

>>40913
I've been smallbusinessposting in the local biz thread. it's not just stock nonsense

>>40914
>Keynesian economics says if you're in a recession you ought to spend more money, even on useless things, and even if it means going into debt, to increase aggregate demand.
And this is why I say technical matters are hard. This applies to countries and their governments. On the other hand, and going back to the example of Venezuela: why would you, say, give money to people to travel to other countries to estimulate the economy? Most of that money isn't going to companies in your country, it's literally going to another country…

Also, does this apply to individual people? I mean, if you are poor and in a bad economic situation, spendng money on useless things will only make things worse for you. So that logic obviously doesn't happen at all levels.

>>40915
Yeah, I noticed. Still, would be cool to have those discussions in its own board, as I proposed.



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Why is it if you are a flagfag or namefag you cvn get away with anything with no ban?
People like Sandinistanon or Felix literally only post to break the rules you wrote yet they are in here day-in, day-out?
The whole moderation of this site comes across as incredibly disingenuous.

>>40615
Always been that way. I guess they like being able to imagine that everyone who doesn't namefag or flagflag is just some /pol/ troll who just blew in for the first time today. Although some namefags eventually get banned. Newgene got banned recently, I don't know how long for. Sandanista anon has been banned before, but then he just keeps posting on the tor node or VPNs or whatever so I guess they gave up on banning him. Felix almost got banned, but he kept up his end of the bargain with the Putin cum tribute.

glow caveman who does nothing but simp for trump and push petty bourgeois consciousness and orthodox economics statistic mongering like some kind of neolib got caught without his tor node and nobody cares
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>>40615
I don't think that's true
I can think of several names that would open old wounds for these faggots

>>40843
Bruh, imageboard users get pissy about everything and anything



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>>>/leftypol/2203691
hazbin hotel glownonymous forgot to use tor node so there's no real excuse to not just get his ass permabanned finally. i mean seriously, nonstop trolling and thread derailing for nearly a year now. 555 come on now

>>40602
rule 7, rule 11, ban evasion

>>40605
Ban evasion is such an idiot move mods brazzingly do every single time putting themselves in the legal cuck chair

I've explained this 1000 times

>What you do to users by moderating them at all is assault, harassment, and defamation making ridiculous claims of what they do and think and retaliating against make believe circumstances. Suffice to say you owe them a trillion dollars.

>The only way you'd get out of this, is by admitting users aren't legally recognized persons. Just points of data. Which than invariably means you're liable for all content. Precisely because you can and do moderate.
>Let me repeat that because you're stupid…LIABLE FOR ALL CONTENT

So yeah tough guy go ahead and ban me and do it again for ban evsion
Cause if i do evade, it'll be to upload a bomb threat or child porn, and will you choose the "pay tnis guy all your money for the rest of your life who will put his hands around your neck in court" or "take the L and swat teams beat the shit out of you and fine you for something you didn't even personally do"?

Total moderator annihilation


>>40848
Shikamaru is actually the smartest person in Naruto, not just in terms of intellect but even ideals.

He's actually not lazy but rather he refuses the whole pomp and circumstance of ninja glory

And not only that he's cute and his son is cute too.

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ummm can somebody please explain to me why blatant racist posting is either allowed on the board or gets removed without any mod action or ban whatsoever, but someone posting peepeepoopoo a single time is banworthy as "spam"? Can someone pinch me, or am I dreaming and actually using reddit in my sleep?
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>>38010
Threatening violence against people you disagree with isn't cool my guy.

>racist posting
>removed without any mod action or ban whatsoever
And how do you know that, Mr Peepeepoo Racist?

>>38009
you posted this in /leftypol/ not siberia. If you want to post rando nonsensical shit in an unrelated thread, there is a board for that

>>38009
"Peepeepoopoo" is a trigger word probably. You triggered some mod's trauma

>>40677
Don’t think it, don’t say it..



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