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Once upon a time, the now four websites were united under the banner of the glorious Bunker, after the tribulations of the Year of Shooting Induced Permabans. The Bunkerchan, LeftypolOrg, GET, and LeftypolNet, although moderated by different factions of moderators, all had coexisted on one site under the superficially aloof and often absent dictator Space, presiding over the boards but not directly interfering in the everyday affairs of management and moderation. Thus, though the factions of moderators could squabble to no end, the personage of Space under which the regime on the Bunker existed could symbolize unity, stability, and continuity. However, the catastrophes began when Space, in a hotheaded moment of half warranted suspicion, elected to descend into the sphere of the politics of ordinary moderators, and blackened the legitimacy of the administration of the Bunker, so that the illusion of the benevolent but removed ruler became no more and factions of moderators initiated the war of all against all. After that, the history repeated, because the site administrators didn't conduct themselves in the ways of the benevolent coronate and perform the correct rites, instead meddling in the lowly affairs of state by managing the jannies' infighting. Hence the drama that has wracked not only this site recently but also of the past the GETLF incident triggered by the crisis of King's surprise reentrance and the even earlier infinityLeftypol BO spergout. In order to arrest the slide into lawless anarchy of Leftypol and avoid any potentially imminent future problems, there should be a suitable shitposter of noted lineage crowned potentate of the USSC, in whom the ultimate authority of site administration be vested, and by this action restore, to former glory, the great harmony of the state.
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the only good one was the 8chan bo


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gracefag whats your take on plato's republic as a model for imageboards? ex: >>10034


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Well, I would probably give a brainlet response, but I am also keen on knowing that absolutists themselves, even despite criticizing Plato, really preferred him to Aristotle, as Hobbes said that Plato was the best of the Greek philosophers. I think there does need to be fresh blood, but vetting mods would be probably be a good idea. Where the modocracy is right is that getting new mods takes time and you need experienced hands on deck… and Bodin says, that it is good to have fewer than many more for the modocracy, because "more governours, more factions, their consultations will be more hard to determine". But also those who are already heavily invested in the board.

The Herodotus debate also talked about this problem, "But in an oligarchy, the desire of many to do the state good service sometimes engenders bitter enmity among them; for each one wishing to be the chief of all and make his counsels, violent enmity is the outcome, enmity brings faction, and faction bloodshed."


Deleted a few of my posts


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Just started having this issue today where I can't make the reply box more narrow. The top one works just fine but the popout one just gets wider when I try to condense it. Vid related


I also use Edge (not on my machine), I have the same problem here and on Chrome. It seems ot be a Chromium issue because I don't remember this happening on Firefox.


I think this is a known vichan issue.
Like you said, it's a Chromium-related issue.


I get this issue too, but also nice noisecore soundtrack OP.


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The Just Republic: In defense of the modocracy

TLDR: Plato’s republic is the ideal form of governance for an imageboard

>“For surely, Thrasymachus, it's injustice that produces factions, hatreds, and quarrels among themselves, and justice that produces unanimity and friendship. Isn't it so?… if it's the work of injustice, wherever it is, to implant hatred, then, when injustice comes into being, both among free men and slaves, will it not also cause them to hate one another and to form factions, and to be be unable to accomplish anything in common with one another?… Then does it come to light as possessing a power such that, wherever it comes into being, be it in a city, a clan, an army, or whatever else, it first of all makes that thing unable to accomplish anything together with itself due to faction and difference, and then it a makes that thing an enemy both to itself and to everything opposite and to the just? Isn't it so?… And then when it is in one man, I suppose it will do the same thing which it naturally accomplishes. First it will make him unable to act, because he is at faction and is not of one mind with himself, and, second, an enemy both to himself and to just men” - Plato, The Republic

As said previously in my note on recent events, the frequency of splits, the schizo-paranoia, it’s clear that there is something incredibly broken about how leftypol recruits staff and moderators, and this has almost lead to the death of leftypol several times. Many people here, including certain former moderators, have expressed the desire to have more “user input”, for user congresses. This is all utterly misguided. It’s fine to have a channel for user feedback, and to take suggestions, but the idea of LARPing a direct democracy, without accountability, in an anonymous or pseudo-anonymous medium just can’t work. The capitalist structure of ownership, of private property with regards to web domains and servers, really prevents this from being anything more than a democracy in name only. As we have seen, the only people with real power are those that control these resources, and everything else is really just play-acting. At worst, it just introduces an ability for loud retards to override the silent majority or right wing crossposters to manufacture consensus.

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There was far less stasi and volkspolezei in the DDR than intelligence agents and cops in west germany, which was essentially a police state. The Cold war Germany situation demanded heavy police presence and surveilance. The communist east got by on far less than the west.



The intrusive questions on the paperwork of liberal states are not equivalent to engaging in psychological warfare on the civilian population



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I think we can safely say its over. .org won



You're every bit as terrible as space_ if not worse. Enjoy your dying community and the pile of dirt you have inherited. You are all, literally, no better than Jacobin. No one won here accept your massively inflated egos.

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Is it true that you are raiding 4chan and shilling proprietary garbage on /g/?
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You can check out >>>/tech/ maybe you like it.


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Could check it out


Did you fall for that really obvious /pol/ false flag listing all the boards and shit takes next to each? Protip: if you can't see replies, it's a /pol/troon screencapping themselves.
The simple fact that our board mascot is in SuperTuxKart and that our board software IS FOSS without any third party connections should tell you all you need to know. Just look at our /tech/ board.
Leftypol don't raid and we don't give a fuck about influencing 4chan. Not only is it a worthless endeavor, but we don't have the numbers. Internet drama beyond funny shitposts is fucking stupid.


Actually we're the ones that have been shilling gentoo for almost a decade on /g/


The only OS I shill is TempleOS

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Hello everyone. Welcome back to the second week of the proposal system. To see last week's successful proposals, please go to the voting topic for this week. We have these proposals which failed last week, that perhaps we should discuss again this week:

>>10296 Proposal: Create actual policies on subjectively moderated topics
>>10297 Proposal: Standardize ban lengths for various rule violations"

Once again, I must clarify that ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES. Anons are free to have their say and offer suggestions and feedback to improve proposals/votes but these are only advisory and user votes are not counted for official decisionmaking. But who knows, a persuasive enough argument might sway the mod team to your cause?

Please reply to this post to post proposals for consideration next week. If a user proposal seems like a good idea, we may adopt it and make it official. Thanks everyone. Feel free to post your opinions but try not to spam or needlessly bicker back and forth in order to keep the thread clear and legible. Any off-topic posts may be removed without warning.
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>>10787 (me)
maybe not the Image hover on catalog


Agreed except for image hover on catalog also, that seems a little much..


I can't log in rn so I will confirm in the staff room that this post is me
Agree with enabling the 2 except for the catalog hover
Vote yes with negotiation on definitions as others have mentioned
Abstain but I think this could be worth considering again in the future with specific circumstances
Vote against. I think a public list would negate the utility against for instance "guests" spamming the filtered words and ruin the fun a bit
Vote yes
Vote yes however I'm not sure what exactly kind of thread you are describing

I can't see the soyjak spam rule here but please give me a vote no against it


Proposals for next week:

Proposal: Filter National socialist to Not socialist

PASSED (4 votes)

Proposal: Create an OC thread analog for /b/ where not strictly leftist shitposts and images can be kept

PASSED (3 votes)

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These are the votes for this week. Please vote on the posts below, not this OP itself. Once again, please not that anons cannot actually vote, and their opinions are simply advisory. Thank you to all users and mods for their participation.

In addition, please keep this topic on-topic. All extraneous posts may be removed without warning. With that, here are this week's votes;

>>10088 Proposal: On the creation of /roulette/ - /lounge/.
>>10089 Proposal: Remove certain types of soyspam.
>>10094 Proposal: Rename /b/ to /siberia/ to remove the 'expectations' that it needs to be exactly like 4chan /b/ and to fit more consistently with the rest of the board names.
>>10104 Proposal: Bring back vaush -> agent kochinski wordfilter
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pls ban loli and /zoo/ porn



vote yes
vote against
vote for
vote for


messed up mod tag


Vote: On the creation of /lounge/. This board is intended as a comfy off-topic space which is more moderated than /b/ (or /siberia/) to create a social atmosphere. Porn will also be disallowed on this board in order to create a more 'social' atmosphere. This board should also be a focal point for community events and so on.

The board will be run through the /roulette/ system to test its viability, with the performance judged by mods after one month.

For: Caballo, Wvobbly, Redlidmilk, M00dy, Barbara_Pit
Against: Krates, Pask


Vote: Ban 'soyspam'. (ie. soyjak posts that do nothing but post a derivative soyjak and include no original text). This is not intended to remove posts which rephrase another post in a derisive or mocking manner (with a soyjak or not) as these are a time honoured form of criticism. Exceptions may be made at moderator's discretion for 'unique' or custom-made soyjaks.

This rule will also target soy OPs which have little or no 'useful' material, even on /b/.
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Why is this site suddenly insanely glitchy and broken since the split?


We can't help you if you give no examples. Works for me™.


ok watermelon


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yesterday the header theme didn't match the page but the text did so the page was white text black background while the header was white text white background two days ago I was getting a capcha error when I tried to post on any board


pls dont shitpost on /meta/

The captcha was turned on for a few hours that day due to automated bot flooding from a /pol/tard, and it was a slow glitchy start as it needed to change some minor back-end details to setup on this site. There was one person claiming it didn't work on their mobile either so that's something we might need to look into.
The "socialismSocialism" was a problem with importing flags on pre-split posts due to a rushed crawler script, so it doesn't apply to new posts. Probably won't be fixed due to priorities.
I don't know what's up with the white background and can't think of any change then that could have caused it. Did you have a reading mode on or something? That's the closest thing I can think of.


Thanks mods for saving the board again
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feels like home


Put me in the screencap


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I am humbled. Thank you for reporting and helping keep reddit clean


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Seethe 4faggot, your precious free speech is what's allowing spammers and newfags to nuke your boards which is why all of your communities are dying


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I was just being cheeky sorry haha. Thank you actually for reporting, it helps.

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What's up with all the DDoS fuckery going on? A lot of people can't access the site, why is this?


We were being raided by pol. I was going to turn it off but I got busy. Give me a min.


Ah I see


Was /pol/ raiding and also trying DDoS the site? Because there were two things happening at once.

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layout on posts with media is frequently fucked up. embeds are worse.


I literally cannot reproduce this issue so I can't fix it unless you help.
Which device (mobile or desktop, is it wide or narrow)?
Link to a post that does this.

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