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 No.13553[Reply]

Why is this board not open for teenagers (people aged 13-17), instead users must be 18 or up to use this site? Considering that most teenagers right now are tech-savvy and that teenagers are usually open to new information, especially ideologies?
If we keep doing this then:
- we will not have a good userbase,
- this won't be trendy,
- more and more teens subscribe themselves to lib ideas,
- a surplus of degenerate young people will (surely) be created, and
- revolution is rather hard to achieve due to the previous two reasons.
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 No.13559

>>13558
>>t. groomer
I'm posting this criticism as a 16-year old. And I sometimes noticed people being banned simply for their age. Even if it means asking for jobs and what to do.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

 No.13560

>>13553
because there's unspoilered porn, mostly on /siberia/

 No.13561

>>13559
its legal obligations. all under aged have to be b&.

 No.13562

>>13559
Well I was just memeing. I don't think grooming is an issue because this isn't fbi.gov. But a good reason for not allowing kids is that they're stupid and immature in general. We have enough bad posters already without actively courting children. As an adult, I just don't have an in interest in talking to kids who aren't even smart enough to lie about their age.

Being "trendy" or popular is not a virtue in itself, it's a negative. The hordes of uneducated posters would overwhelm what good posters there are here and that would become the site. I'd encourage you to check out a leftist fbi.gov server that is "cool" to see what that would be like, it's not nice.

 No.13563

>>13561
>all under aged have to be b&.
ah
>But a good reason for not allowing kids is that they're stupid and immature in general. We have enough bad posters already without actively courting children. As an adult, I just don't have an in interest in talking to kids who aren't even smart enough to lie about their age.
Oh, I see.
Well sometimes there are good faith teenagers that are interested into anticapitalist thought.



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 No.12201[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is a general thread for discussion of the split, to stop other threads from getting shitted up.

Please keep it civil and contain all split/drama discourse to this thread and stop shitting up every other unrelated meta thread.
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 No.13539

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>>13538
you are fucking deranged sage. Why don't you fuck back off to leftychan and leave leftypol alone

 No.13545

>>13539
>p….p…please go
No. Hahahahaha.

Caps of me being deranged or it didn’t happen Lmao. You’ve been coping for like two straight weeks now, a proven liar ahahahha

 No.13549

>>13545
I declare Sage the winner and to be in the right here.

 No.13550

>>13549
>>13545
WRONG! jannies already won!!!!

 No.13551

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S A G E IS B T F O

JANNIES WIN FOREVER AND EVER! DONE



 No.13396[Reply]

This is getting ridiculous now. Some of the jannies need to stop being so trigger happy. This place is turning into reddit.
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 No.13420

>>13400
yeah, to be fair there's like daily /pol/cel spam posts with the YWNBAW copypasta (I just saw one in /siberia/) so it's not wonder that not having a post history and your IP's first post mentioning "axe wounds" and "transhumanist" earned you a ban.
>>13416
also fuck you faggot

 No.13421

Can you unban my 2 IPs now I've proved I'm neither a fucking AI robot or spamming?

 No.13422

>>13421
You'd have to appeal those bans first.

 No.13425

>>13396
Ugh, Reddit is the best place ever, my chungus doggo 100 keanu. I just love jerking off gallowboob.

 No.13482

troon



 No.979[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Or perhaps posting does, but I can't see the new posts.
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 No.13387

File: 1632978496028.mp4 (1.62 MB, 854x480, glows_test.mp4)

Now that version control and most basics are sorted, I'm trawling through the old bug reports.
Checking this was fixed: >>>/leftypol_archive/1306

 No.13446

test



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 No.10062[Reply]

This is a long post, but it's important we do this properly in order to prevent the same bullshit happening again. All constructive feedback is helpful. Feedback from people who don't use Matrix or /meta/ often is especially useful.

It's clear the previous site was screwed up in many ways. While there are obvious surface issues such as moderation tensions, there were underlying design flaws in the moderation system that both compounded these issues and made the user experience worse than it should have been. Some results of this flawed system is how many policy changes were a surprise to most users despite being discussed for days or over week, even users who regularly visited the /meta/ board had no visibility over these discussions.

It is the view of the entire moderation team that this is unacceptable.

From what I know, the previous leftypol.org's (supposed) transparency effort was as follows:
>general moderation discussion takes place in the Matrix Congress chat
(in reality, it became normalized for many mods to default to the private Matrix Staff Room, even for non-sensitive matters)
>mod voting on changes takes place on a locked, unlisted, public board, /assembly/
(this is the same board that was made public and open by leftychan, previous weeks' votes were moved to the archive board every Monday. it was extremely badly advertised)
>votes would be declared in the /meta/ voting thread, along with their outcomes
(as evident, this almost never happened in practice, with no-one doing this after the first month except for a short-lived revival attempt by Discomrade)

While technically the design was public, none of it was easily noticable to most users and became effectively (by both design and then culture) private-by-default. When a crisis happens and priorites take over, all the extra tasks can easily get forgotten. That's why open-by-default is a design quality we should aim for in the new moderation framework. We should have to go out of our way to talk about site changes in private (for special cases concerning things like IP bans or server technical details, since it is inappropriate to show that sensitive information publicly).
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>>12906
>Simply "if you build it they will come" is unreasonable IMO.
yes – do the opposite. this will be strange to hear but read mao with care – and cynicism. apply what you read to the material conditions of the world wide web.
you will see that we are positioned only to wage guerrilla warfare – never orthodox – and that the tools of orthodox warfare are the wrong tools for the right work. guerrilla warfare is decentralized – do not centralize /leftypol/ and close it off from the outside. instead operate on other sites more than you do here.
if you are sharing news from other sites here you are already losing. ~be the news~ – create events that become news – without the enemies realizing it. owning news is useful too – whether in part or whole – i have been strategically editing wikipedia articles. for one full decade in two years. it has material consequence – such as economic impact of companies being in a spotlight or additional visitation in some nations. i cannot know for sure of course.
i also contribute to reactionary sites – but only drama. i am a moderator for one site. the effect of drama is mostly demoralization and panic for moderators. but its material consequence cannot be measured – unless measured by my pleasure.
buy or make fake identification. make very realistic accounts on social media. act out arguments – on both sides – where many people are browsing. involve grifters with many followers when you can. encourage drama and spread it as a weapon. ask yourself – what mao will do next if he was on /leftypol/ right now.

>>12909
my mistake – sorry.

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>>12910
He is a fucking furfag

 No.13016

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>>12910
>>13014
>He is a fucking furfag
The way you said that reminded me of pic related

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 No.11991[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Reposting here because no one ever reads meta and because sage ruined the thread, sorry mods

I think that we can all agree that we need more people, more posters spanning from all the left positions, let's go past the "much PPH" meaningless debate, we barely have any effortposters now, much less drawfags and other kind of talented people, the split was a catastrophe in terms of users and we have not recovered yet.

A small imageboard may be good for very niche hobbies and things like that, but for leftism it's the absolute opposite,our ideology is supposed to appeal to the vast majority of people that composes the working class, we should strive to be an Imageboard for the masses, the more people the better (leftists ofc),we used to have a very large potential userbase on 8chan but that's gone.

I think we should start promoting the board, in youtube, discockrd, hell even on reddit Twitter and Facebook, there's literal thousands of people that are members of communist and socialist parties around the world, hundreds of unions and workers organizations etc, and their input could be very valuable, hell maybe we can get some Chinese people in here, or people from the Japanese communist party etc.

I think that everyone should do their part in your social circles and social media you frequent the most, casually mention leftypol if you have leftist friends, mention leftypol in breadtube videos, if you follow communist or socialist party accounts on twittee or Facebook invite them to come etc, if you speak more than one language the better, if you have the means to get in touch with people from China or Japan or you know someone who knows the language maybe we can try to get some people from those countries here, along with people from Arab countries, Africa etc, that would be awesome.

Leftypol should stop appealing to its own userbase and reach out for people, just like the bolsheviks went out to the factories to garner support for the revolution and just how the CCP talked with the peasants to fight against the nationalists, we should do the same.

We have a world to win!
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>>13323
*disclaimer: those are only public boards, there's also the unlisted ones they use for 'baking' or whatever, but it seems they are trivial (pic 2 suggests no hidden board activity last hour)
Active ISP count in that image is over 72 hours.

 No.13327

>>13323
You actually DID do the maths, I'm amazed.

Do take into account that in August (that month is bad for 8ch) Someone fucked all the images and nuked dozens of boards so a lot of content that remains is /pol/shit… that being said almost nobody is posting there right now. leftypol.org could take it by storm.

 No.13332

>>13327
Good to know, I'd like to hear the story. I suppose that would ruin most of the remaining porn boards.
>that being said almost nobody is posting there right now. leftypol.org could take it by storm.
Boards like /pnd/? Certainly.
The main /qresearch/ board? Probably not. They still have about 7000 posts per day, while Leftypol in total has about 2250 posts per day, and most people wouldn't be bothered anyway.
That said, I haven't looked into they types of posts, as last time I remembered it was very fast-pace-low-effort, similar to a /b/ board.

 No.13338

>>13332
>the story
Oh it's fairly simple, Ron (Codemonkey) abandoned 8kun in July (around the time his social media got blocked by site hosts) to pursue some bullshit internet legal career. Jim dropped 8kun roughly 2 weeks ago to also pursue some internet bill of rights. In betqeen this some hackers broke into the servers and nuked images and made posting impossible for days. The images are still gone despite Jim's claim of restoration, instead they are replaced with Gadsden flags of 8kun.

 No.13365

>>13338
Ahh, I thought it might have been a recent server failure or another Pillow incident, or whoever it was who nuked /interracial/ and a bunch of other boards he didn't like.



 No.11340[Reply]

I have to force a refresh to get new posts to appear. In threads the last posts are often missing and only appear through the autoupdate but with board pages only the refresh helps.
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 No.11408

On Android, updating threads doesn't work a lot of times for me, the button doesn't even click. I have to manually refresh as well.

 No.11983

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> click post to reply to from thread page
< nowhere to be seen in the thread
Shit's annoying, please fix it.

 No.11987

>>11983
maybe put it in the bugfix thread on >>>/tech/

 No.13350

It's actually gotten worse since I opened this thread.

 No.13356

>>13350
Hmm. I'll take a look at it tonight.



 No.13307[Reply]

Is the catalog broken sitewide for anyone else? Threads refuse to update for some reason.

 No.13308

We believe the issue cause is known, should hopefully be fixed by tomorrow.

 No.13310

>>13308
Many thanks, devanon <3



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 No.13022[Reply]

Hello everyone. This is the thread to make this week's proposals. There were no successful proposals last week, so there is no voting topic. We have these proposals which failed previously, that perhaps we should discuss again this week (I won't put these on the docket, unless someone actually brings them up with amendments so they might pass this time):

proposal: filter "socially conservative" to "actually reactionary" (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

proposal: filter "socially conservative" to "socially inept" (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

proposal: filter "stupid pol" to "stupid polyps" and "stupidpol" to "stupid polyps" (this proposal has now not been accepted for 2 weeks and is STALE, it will be removed next week)

Once again, I must clarify that ONLY MODS CAN ACTUALLY VOTE ON PROPOSALS OR VOTES. Anons are free to have their say and offer suggestions and feedback to improve proposals/votes but these are only advisory and user votes are not counted for official decisionmaking. But who knows, a persuasive enough argument might sway the mod team to your cause?

Please reply to this post to post proposals for consideration next week. If a user proposal seems like a good idea, we may adopt it and make it official. Thanks everyone. Feel free to post your opinions but try not to spam or needlessly bicker back and forth in order to keep the thread clear and legible. Any off-topic posts may be removed without warning.
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>>13022
Proposal 1 - Recruitment of 1-5 new mods to replace some of the old ones (esp. those who may want to retire)

For: Barbara_Pitt, Discomrade, Pask, Redlidmilk, Wvobbly, Comet

PROPOSAL PASSED

Proposal 2 - Discuss recruitment of non mod staff to handle social media outreach and growth strategies.

For: Barbara_Pitt, Krates, Comet

PROPOSAL PASSED

 No.13292

Please stop with the retarded wordfilters this isn't funny, stop forcing your shitty memes

 No.13296

>>13292
counterpoint: I find them funny myself, make even more why not
proposal: filter wordfilter to platonic ideal

 No.13298

>>13292
but I like wordfilters when they're either harmless or make malicious posters less annoying

 No.13337

>>13296
reminder that lainchan wordfilters 'wordfilter'



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 No.13195[Reply]

Now that /nordpol/ on the main board is rather swiftly approaching 500 posts, can we make it cyclic please? Thänks!

 No.13197

I've made a reply in >>>/leftypol/514133 to make sure most people want it cyclic.



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